HabboxForum Suggestions Box! [+15Rep to all reasonable suggestions!]

[hah]

you try to accommodate to many people... its been said in the thread but so far no staff have replied to it ( i dont think)

the forum is too big...graphic categories ...forums for fashion animals and cars? and its just been made worse with the community thing being added on. New users post a welcome thread and then just dont bother because there is to many forums and they dont know where to start

[Hecktix]

you try to accommodate to many people... its been said in the thread but so far no staff have replied to it ( i dont think)

the forum is too big...graphic categories ...forums for fashion animals and cars? and its just been made worse with the community thing being added on. New users post a welcome thread and then just dont bother because there is to many forums and they dont know where to start

The Welcome Committee will be there to help users find a place to start

[hah]

im 100% sure it wont work
lol

[Hecktix]

im 100% sure it wont work
lol

You sure have a lot of faith...

[hah]

well the last thing id want if i joined a forum is a bunch of annoying people (most of the staff here) jumping at me asking if i want some help and asking me my interests and telling me where to post

but w.e dont listen to me lol
forgot you're always right

[Hecktix]

well the last thing id want if i joined a forum is a bunch of annoying people (most of the staff here) jumping at me asking if i want some help and asking me my interests and telling me where to post

but w.e dont listen to me lol
forgot you're always right

The Welcome Committee aren't going to be members of staff (well, not the majority) - and it's up to the user to ask for help.

[hah]

but they still wont post of the forum if its huge... they wont no where to (like i said most just make a welcome thread) :S
people like small forums not huge ones that tries to accommodate everyone..... thats where habbox goes wrong lol

[buttons]

Theres a limit of things to do for lets say 1 gold star members so I think they're thinking "Oh I can't do anything here cause I'm a newbie to the forum and I'm not well know." trust me, that's what I thought when I first joined. I'm still sort of thinking that:/

i do post in comps but its confusing to find the thing that i want. I had to ask someone in hxhd about how to find the hxhd apps. Also when i do go on a thread most people are havin a confo and i dont wanna but in :/
you will find that on any forum you're new on though, everyone has to start somewhere. just post where you're interested in, people won't ignore you because you're new but if you're annoying/rude no matter how long you've been here then you will be attacked, just report it if anyone's rude. yeah there seems to be a divide of people i.e the djs are mostly friends with each other and in spam there are different "groups" of friends i suppose but a lot of them started off not knowing each other and you just gradually do

ps what's welcome committee lolllllllllll

[Hecktix]

Welcome Committee is an idea generated by Catzsy and flatface (and myself but I just added bits on) where we have a small team of dedicated members who welcome new users to the forum and help them find places on the forum that may be of interest to them.

[Catzsy]

The Welcome Committee will be there to help users find a place to start



Agree but quite honestly the forum is fine with it's present categories and a members can always hide those they are not interested in. Its getting the new members, making them feel welcome to want to stay and be part of the community. It would be unique to Habbox I feel. Certainly worth a try - all to gain and nothing to lose.

[buttons]

and how is that going to work? are you going to do it to every member or just provide a link where they can ask for help?
sounds as though you're treating them like children. i don't see the trouble, most people find places just fine but k.

[Hecktix]

and how is that going to work? are you going to do it to every member or just provide a link where they can ask for help?
sounds as though you're treating them like children. i don't see the trouble, most people find places just fine but k.

There's going to be a forum exclusive to new members which they can post whatever they like in, and the welcome committee have access to it so can help them where needed, treat them nicely, find out things about them and direct them to different places of the forum - nothing forced, all completely optional.

[hah]

maybe you should hire people to hold their hands as well

[jam666]

The problem isnt enough people joining. The problem lies with alot of people leaving as the ratio of people who join the forum compared to those who leave id guess would be around 1:2.

The cause of the problem is as the general forum population ages people leave habbo for other things and therefore have no real reason to stay on the forums as quite a large proportion of the forums are habbo based which is why people wont post as they dont play habbo any more. (maybe a forum for people who have been here for a number of years? :P)

what i suggest is more of a generalisation of the forum. By this i mean a few more skins could be created that are non-habbo, maybe a few more non-habbo forums and a variety in competitions that are not habbo based. Whilst there is win free v.i.p / rep comps some people see this as "pointless" because they have no major impact on forum life. Maybe win a real life cd or something (i dont know how it would work) could be an answer as they would then have something physical to win and thus make them want to take part.

[flatface]

maybe you should hire people to hold their hands as well

im up for that!

like catzsy said, theres no harm in trying

[hah]

go through the leaving section and look at peoples reason :rolleyes:
then you will see whats the main problem

[Catzsy]

go through the leaving section and look at peoples reason :rolleyes:
then you will see whats the main problem

You called me a negative nancy yesterday! LOL :) The new members we attract could be 10/11 years old and they don't have to stay in the welcome forum if they don't want but it's worth a try. What is your big objection to it?

[Florx]

I haven't read the thread so don't flame me for duplicating a suggestion however...

I use the student room sometimes, and there's a module on the home page that tells you 'Who Quoted You', I find this feature extremely hand to go back to threads that maybe are like 10 pages long, and wouldn't read again, so I wouldn't be aware that somebody has replied directly to me - this would increase my post count!

Also, the technology / web design forums don't get as much traffic as I remember 2 years ago so that's why I don't post as much - there isn't the popularity out there!

Jake.

[-Danube-]

Bring the:

'Welcome to our new member'

Feature to the top of the forum rather at the bottom, then maybe people may click the name, and leave a message on their profile saying like "Hi welcome to HabboxForum, why not post a welcome thread here (Link to welcome forum) or maybe check out this thread?"

I think if you interact with the newer members more, it gives them more of a reason to stick around and keep coming back. One of the main issues with new members is that 1, they cannot use the forum and 2, they have no reason to come back.

[Jamesy]

Bring the:

'Welcome to our new member'

Feature to the top of the forum rather at the bottom, then maybe people may click the name


I'm not keen on shifting things around drastically on the existing skins - but for the new site skin I will definately be doing things like this. They currently get a PM from Matt (automated) with that kind of thing in it.

[Santorefish]

Well like somone suggested, alot of poeple seem to be stuck inside the spam thread :l Maybe getting rid of that will spread them out.

Also, there are no new sort of, prizes or group comps and things, there is a lack of interest for new members that may want to join, possible due to lack of advertisement of habbox, only being restricted to habbo hotel itself (unless im missing somthing)

Also (and this isnt a dig) alot of habbox posters have been banned ... perhaps a little rashly if you know what i mean.

[,elaboratedolls]

you will find that on any forum you're new on though, everyone has to start somewhere. just post where you're interested in, people won't ignore you because you're new but if you're annoying/rude no matter how long you've been here then you will be attacked, just report it if anyone's rude. yeah there seems to be a divide of people i.e the djs are mostly friends with each other and in spam there are different "groups" of friends i suppose but a lot of them started off not knowing each other and you just gradually do

ps what's welcome committee lolllllllllll

Yeah I guess you do eventually start to get new friends. Like i found yuuuuh! But to get new members and people posting more I think we should have some old members of the forum to welcome new members and show em around and stuff. Like the Habbo Guides that stupid habbo got rid off >:(

[-Danube-]

I'm not keen on shifting things around drastically on the existing skins - but for the new site skin I will definately be doing things like this. They currently get a PM from Matt (automated) with that kind of thing in it.


Yeah it would be nice to do this just on the site skin, as this is the one that automatically comes up by default. The automated PM from Matt is a good thing to introduce them and tell them where to post, but it'd be nice to have other users sending them welcome messages and chatting with them if they decide not to post a welcome thread.

[,elaboratedolls]

Well like somone suggested, alot of poeple seem to be stuck inside the spam thread :l Maybe getting rid of that will spread them out.

Also, there are no new sort of, prizes or group comps and things, there is a lack of interest for new members that may want to join, possible due to lack of advertisement of habbox, only being restricted to habbo hotel itself (unless im missing somthing)

Also (and this isnt a dig) alot of habbox posters have been banned ... perhaps a little rashly if you know what i mean.

Yeah... How 'bout on Hxl and Habbox we have one side of lets say Hxl, an ad with Habbox on with a hyper link to the site and on another side we have an ad for HabboxForum with a hyperlink to there. So then on forums we have Hxl and Habbox then on Habbox we have Hxf and Hxl :) you get what I mean?

[Santorefish]

Yeah... How 'bout on Hxl and Habbox we have one side of lets say Hxl, an ad with Habbox on with a hyper link to the site and on another side we have an ad for HabboxForum with a hyperlink to there. So then on forums we have Hxl and Habbox then on Habbox we have Hxf and Hxl :) you get what I mean?

Yes i do, but what im talking about is advertising the whole of habbox on a widerscale, HxL HxF the habbo site on completely different sites .. miniclip for example?

[Kimber]

I'll throw my input here, given I've been around since February now on a near-daily basis.

I strongly disagree with the members that are claiming Moderation is over the top with your Forum. Some of the rules here are so lenient that I sometimes can't believe the stuff certain members get away with. It's been said again and again in this thread that your forum is run like a business - Let me tell you now, it's not. You have so much open discussion on every single change and its not uncommon for you to get the Administrators if this site to change their mind - In business, what the man/woman at the top says, goes. It's very rare for large businesses to change their stance on anything due to user input.

You don't have the ability to swear here, and that's not a negative. Going onto a website and seeing it full of vulgarity is an instant turn-off for many users and with every system that allows you to disable a profanity filter, almost always it will default to "on" when you login for the first time.

Whilst I rarely visit the spam section, when I have it feels like a very hostile place for a specific group of friends. If you threw a new member into there, it's like throwing him, or her to the lions. I won't name people here, but if you want a close knit community that's fantastic, and I'd like to think your Administrators would support that, but at the same time you shouldn't be locking out new users from worming their way in. It's been a common trend within this thread to mention that older users are leaving, and if you're not going to support the newer users into your community then unfortunately that community will eventually seize to exist.

The Forum can only be as good as the members make it, and it doesn't require 10,000 posts per day to be good, it just takes some politeness to the newer members and welcoming them into your community. You don't have to instantly be best friends, but you'd be surprised how when you're nice to somebody you can learn to like them.

You have many, many dedicated Moderators and Administrators on this site who give up masses of their time to ensure that the Forum is as good as it can possibly be, and whilst I would suggest a rule or two be changed to cater for more the more modern 13-15 year old, your Forum the majority of the time is a pleasant place to be. Heck, if people actually check you will notice that either I or another staff member of Kazopark is online at least twice per day reading through your thoughts, and not just within the Kazopark section.

If increasing the post count is what you wish to do, I would firstly suggest relaxing the rules within the Spam Forum section. I believe a member brought it up recently that you are not allowed to "advertise" websites within that section - That makes me question as to whether or not it actually is a spam section, or just a second General Discussion section. The Moderation within this section should also adapt to not touching users just because they are known for causing issues - Buttons springs to mind here, and whilst there is a limit on what I can see, I believe this is another point for relaxing on the Spam section.

Whilst Spam doesn't increase the post count of users, you have to face that it is within that section the different groups of friends are. If your wish is to let the newer users join in with these groups, the Spam section should really have an over hall entirely with the rule set.

To further on this point, I am in agreement with a recent post by Niemo (I believe) that the Reputation system should be changed and adapted to actually mean something, however I would personally suggest a Reputation reset before implementing the changes (and I know that won't be popular) - Right now, from what I've seen, Reputation means more or less nothing. It's a number, which unless you get a little red mark, is completely ignored. By resetting the system, you can implement the idea that was given of, say, 250 points for 1 month Donator/VIP and extend it even further from that, so for 500 points you could get additional features within the Spam section. I would suggest, however, removing the points after they are spent. (you could even have it so for 750 points you can add sparkles to your name, similar to the God rank)

The key concept that you have to remember is that your Forum is here to have fun on, and it feels like at some point a few of you (maybe even the Administrators included) have forgotten this. It doesn't require large-scale events (Big Brother) to encourage users to post, all it takes is a better attitude from some and, in my opinion, an improvement on some systems.

Additional info: I'd also suggest removing the "Staff only" discussion board and changing it to a "Staff Annoucements" - Hidden points are pointless posts, you don't want even more niche groups.

[Hayleigh]

Well the website is aimed at the UK mainly atm whereas before the merge many americans etc used habbo Uk and therefore habbox uk, so i dont feel its your fault but instead the merge.

[CJSS]

There's not a motive for people to post.
People these days don't bother doing things unless they get something in return.

[Art]

I would personally suggest a Reputation reset

Please don't :\

[Inseriousity.]

I haven't read the thread so don't flame me for duplicating a suggestion however...

I use the student room sometimes, and there's a module on the home page that tells you 'Who Quoted You', I find this feature extremely hand to go back to threads that maybe are like 10 pages long, and wouldn't read again, so I wouldn't be aware that somebody has replied directly to me - this would increase my post count!

I find that feature really handy and you're right, it does make me go back to threads I'd have no intention of visiting again! I wonder if you'll visit this thread again and notice I've quoted you. :P

[Nemo]

To further on this point, I am in agreement with a recent post by Niemo (I believe) that the Reputation system should be changed and adapted to actually mean something, however I would personally suggest a Reputation reset before implementing the changes (and I know that won't be popular) - Right now, from what I've seen, Reputation means more or less nothing. It's a number, which unless you get a little red mark, is completely ignored. By resetting the system, you can implement the idea that was given of, say, 250 points for 1 month Donator/VIP and extend it even further from that, so for 500 points you could get additional features within the Spam section. I would suggest, however, removing the points after they are spent. (you could even have it so for 750 points you can add sparkles to your name, similar to the God rank)

The key concept that you have to remember is that your Forum is here to have fun on, and it feels like at some point a few of you (maybe even the Administrators included) have forgotten this. It doesn't require large-scale events (Big Brother) to encourage users to post, all it takes is a better attitude from some and, in my opinion, an improvement on some systems.

Additional info: I'd also suggest removing the "Staff only" discussion board and changing it to a "Staff Annoucements" - Hidden points are pointless posts, you don't want even more niche groups.It's nemo, but yeah you got the idea of what i meant really. Although, i wouldnt like to see it being reset, it doesnt really mean anything atm, but a few people wouldnt like the idea of having a few years of dedication reset.

However, i agree with the rest of your points in that paragraph, and your post as a whole really.

[Blinger$]

Can I just ask without being ignore hopefully, how do we make the spam section more welcoming :S

[Hecktix]

Can I just ask without being ignore hopefully, how do we make the spam section more welcoming :S

By users in spam not being rude to or ignoring newer members or members that dont post there as often

[Blinger$]

I never see them post in there anyway :S

[Catzsy]

[QUOTE=Kimber;6628266]I'll throw my input here, given I've been around since February now on a near-daily basis.

I strongly disagree with the members that are claiming Moderation is over the top with your Forum. Some of the rules here are so lenient that I sometimes can't believe the stuff certain members get away with. It's been said again and again in this thread that your forum is run like a business - Let me tell you now, it's not. You have so much open discussion on every single change and its not uncommon for you to get the Administrators if this site to change their mind - In business, what the man/woman at the top says, goes. It's very rare for large businesses to change their stance on anything due to user input.

Totally agree with all you say here.

You don't have the ability to swear here, and that's not a negative. Going onto a website and seeing it full of vulgarity is an instant turn-off for many users and with every system that allows you to disable a profanity filter, almost always it will default to "on" when you login for the first time.

Again I agree I do not see the necessity for it at all.


Whilst I rarely visit the spam section, when I have it feels like a very hostile place for a specific group of friends. If you threw a new member into there, it's like throwing him, or her to the lions. I won't name people here, but if you want a close knit community that's fantastic, and I'd like to think your Administrators would support that, but at the same time you shouldn't be locking out new users from worming their way in. It's been a common trend within this thread to mention that older users are leaving, and if you're not going to support the newer users into your community then unfortunately that community will eventually seize to exist.
Older members always leave about this time of year and quite honestly most of those who say they are going to leave are back the next day. It's like a manipulation tool. Totally agree that they should not give new members a hard time even if they find them 'annoying'. No excuse for it at all.


The Forum can only be as good as the members make it, and it doesn't require 10,000 posts per day to be good, it just takes some politeness to the newer members and welcoming them into your community. You don't have to instantly be best friends, but you'd be surprised how when you're nice to somebody you can learn to like them.

Agree again - quality is much better then quantity although the best attraction is usually 'controversy'. :P


You have many, many dedicated Moderators and Administrators on this site who give up masses of their time to ensure that the Forum is as good as it can possibly be, and whilst I would suggest a rule or two be changed to cater for more the more modern 13-15 year old, your Forum the majority of the time is a pleasant place to be. Heck, if people actually check you will notice that either I or another staff member of Kazopark is online at least twice per day reading through your thoughts, and not just within the Kazopark section.

If increasing the post count is what you wish to do, I would firstly suggest relaxing the rules within the Spam Forum section. I believe a member brought it up recently that you are not allowed to "advertise" websites within that section - That makes me question as to whether or not it actually is a spam section, or just a second General Discussion section. The Moderation within this section should also adapt to not touching users just because they are known for causing issues - Buttons springs to mind here, and whilst there is a limit on what I can see, I believe this is another point for relaxing on the Spam section.

Whilst Spam doesn't increase the post count of users, you have to face that it is within that section the different groups of friends are. If your wish is to let the newer users join in with these groups, the Spam section should really have an over hall entirely with the rule set.

Well it was the spam section themselves who requested no advertising so that's what they have.
Also no moderator would 'touch' upon another member just because they are known for causing issues - there are very strict rules on moderation. This is where your knowledge runs out a bit and in fact contradicts the statement in the first paragraph. There has never been any bar to any member posting there. Spam has always been more lenient and in fact I do think some have been the centre of attention far too much and bad behaviour has actually been rewarded to the detriment of the rest of the forum. Just because some shout the loudest doesn't give the true picture and it has to be remembered that moderators cannot really stand up for themselves in public or actually correct what is being said as it is divulging somebody's personal information. The election and BB were successful but did seem to take over the forum. The upcoming summer spectacular though is always very popular.

[scottish]

[QUOTE]

Totally agree with all you say here.


Again I agree I do not see the necessity for it at all.


Older members always leave about this time of year and quite honestly most of those who say they are going to leave are back the next day. It's like a manipulation tool. Totally agree that they should not give new members a hard time even if they find them 'annoying'. No excuse for it at all.



Agree again - quality is much better then quantity although the best attraction is usually 'controversy'. :P



Well it was the spam section themselves who requested no advertising so that's what they have.
Also no moderator would 'touch' upon another member just because they are known for causing issues - there are very strict rules on moderation. This is where your knowledge runs out a bit and in fact contradicts the statement in the first paragraph. There has never been any bar to any member posting there. Spam has always been more lenient and in fact I do think some have been the centre of attention far too much and bad behaviour has actually been rewarded to the detriment of the rest of the forum. Just because some shout the loudest doesn't give the true picture and it has to be remembered that moderators cannot really stand up for themselves in public or actually correct what is being said as it is divulging somebody's personal information. The election and BB were successful but did seem to take over the forum. The upcoming summer spectacular though is always very popular.

I agree

[Nemo]

Well it was the spam section themselves who requested no advertising so that's what they have.
Also no moderator would 'touch' upon another member just because they are known for causing issues - there are very strict rules on moderation. This is where your knowledge runs out a bit and in fact contradicts the statement in the first paragraph. There has never been any bar to any member posting there. Spam has always been more lenient and in fact I do think some have been the centre of attention far too much and bad behaviour has actually been rewarded to the detriment of the rest of the forum. Just because some shout the loudest doesn't give the true picture and it has to be remembered that moderators cannot really stand up for themselves in public or actually correct what is being said as it is divulging somebody's personal information. The election and BB were successful but did seem to take over the forum. The upcoming summer spectacular though is always very popular.Nawh im sorry, i disagree. If we use the example of jen, what she was banned for (something very small afaik) was something she said to muct. I've heard people say A LOT worse to him and to others, and not get even a warning. So, from what i've seen, some mods to favour others. It's always going to be there because you can't really get around people being biased, but i suppose people can always appeal.

[Kimber]

Cheers for the reply.

As I stated, there's only so much I can see. I have explained in more detail to Oli, however my post about the rules being relaxed in the Spam section was not because I believe they are too strict, as I initially stated.

[scottish]

they r 2 strict

[Hecktix]

Nawh im sorry, i disagree. If we use the example of jen, what she was banned for (something very small afaik) was something she said to muct. I've heard people say A LOT worse to him and to others, and not get even a warning. So, from what i've seen, some mods to favour others. It's always going to be there because you can't really get around people being biased, but i suppose people can always appeal.

There's no moderator favouritism whatsoever, and remember - will someone ever be completely honest about what they get banned for if they are in the wrong? No, I don't think so.

[Catzsy]

Nawh im sorry, i disagree. If we use the example of jen, what she was banned for (something very small afaik) was something she said to muct. I've heard people say A LOT worse to him and to others, and not get even a warning. So, from what i've seen, some mods to favour others. It's always going to be there because you can't really get around people being biased, but i suppose people can always appeal.

Well you know what spam is like. It is very difficult to moderate and distinquish between what is insulting and what is banter - if you saw worse posts then if you had reported they would have been dealt with. Just because they weren't noticed or reported does not mean that another member breaking a rule is exempt and you have to remember that to get a ban on this forum you really have to have broken many, many, many rules (unless you are spamming porn or something like that:P) and presumably never learned from the mistakes made. 'If you can serve the time - don't do the crime'. Most of the members quite happily manage not to get banned.

[Nemo]

Well you know what spam is like. It is very difficult to moderate and distinquish between what is insulting and what is banter - if you saw worse posts then if you had reported they would have been dealt with. Just because they weren't noticed or reported does not mean that another member breaking a rule is exempt and you have to remember that to get a ban on this forum you really have to have broken many, many, many rules (unless you are spamming porn or something like that:P) and presumably never learned from the mistakes made. 'If you can serve the time - don't do the crime'. Most of the members quite happily manage not to get banned.
That's true, but a lot of the time it is banter. When people start getting personal, then u can tell it's insulting, or if the person reports it themself. I've seen worse, but that worse was banter, but what was said could be considered worse and easily taken as an insult (it wasn't, but mods could have which is my point that they didn't act upon it, which makes me question). Also, i have been victim of this if i say so myself. Dont know if you remember when i got banned, i didnt have any infractions, so there goes the broken many many many rules, and i wasn't spamming porn. I was simply in a discussion about changing something on the forum with MAD and because he didnt like my persistance he banned me, similar to that really.

[OrenHX]

I am just to busy to post. I know how about make a Roleplay part of the forum.

[Catzsy]

That's true, but a lot of the time it is banter. When people start getting personal, then u can tell it's insulting, or if the person reports it themself. I've seen worse, but that worse was banter, but what was said could be considered worse and easily taken as an insult (it wasn't, but mods could have which is my point that they didn't act upon it, which makes me question). Also, i have been victim of this if i say so myself. Dont know if you remember when i got banned, i didnt have any infractions, so there goes the broken many many many rules, and i wasn't spamming porn. I was simply in a discussion about changing something on the forum with MAD and because he didnt like my persistance he banned me, similar to that really.

Yes well the ---MAD--- bans are legendary - don't have time to write a book though:P but I can assure you ever since nvr took over through to Sam and now Matt that bans are now very hard indeed to come by and you would never get a ban like you had.

[joshuar]

Alright, i'll admit that I haven't read through the whole thread but I'd thought I'd throw my "opinion" into the mix.

I stopped posting because people just passed over my posts and ignored them completley, if somebody who's been here for years but isn't a big poster feels ignored then I can't imagine what it'll be like to be a new member now and barely post, it feels like it falls on dead eyes sometimes. Also I stopped posting because I grew up and didn't want to spend my life on a habbo forum, which I think is understandable.

The most active users on here are should be the staff, and where do most their posts happen? I'm guessing a good chunk in the staff forums, which are there to enable staff to do their jobs. I know there was a thing about having a spam thread in the staff forums to bring the teams together, but I think some staff end up stuck in there, and they have mentioned it in this thread:


I'm going out a lot and I socialise in the staff threads mainly where my posts aren't counted sadly :'(


I seem to post more in the staff threads then the main forum threads.

Reality. also touched on it, i'm not trying to call you guys out but you're 2 examples of this. The staff have their own community locked away from here (I saw that Kimber also touched on this) and the other community is in Spam (where I never venture as I find it unwelcoming). Changes are going to be uncomfortable, but the management are going to have to bite their tounges at certain points and just do it for the sake of the community, as if you carry on like this you're going to have nobody left.

[Nemo]

Yes well the ---MAD--- bans are legendary - don't have time to write a book though:P but I can assure you ever since nvr took over through to Sam and now Matt that bans are now very hard indeed to come by and you would never get a ban like you had.
Well, i was just using at as an example of people being biased, it happened then and it'll still happen sometimes now. Atleast that's my view on jen's particular ban

[Lost_Addict]

I still strongly believe more advertisement is needed around the actual Habbox site. I hear no advertising on the radio and unless your already joined the link on the side is not very noticable and it is unknown what the forum is about.

Many Many people listen to habbox radio and visit the Habbox.com site, but a portion of them have no dea about the Habbox.com forum.

Thats my thought :D

[Recursion]

I don't post around here so much any more simply because I'm growing out of Habbox. Maybe others, including me, would feel more welcome and inclined to stay if the rules were relaxed, not a lot, but a little bit.

Basically the forum just needs to be made a bit more of a relaxed and mature place where we can actually have a debate in, for e.g., the Tech section without it being closed and everyone infractioned for "causing arguments"!

[Lost_Addict]

I don't post around here so much any more simply because I'm growing out of Habbox. Maybe others, including me, would feel more welcome and inclined to stay if the rules were relaxed, not a lot, but a little bit.

Basically the forum just needs to be made a bit more of a relaxed and mature place where we can actually have a debate in, for e.g., the Tech section without it being closed and everyone infractioned for "causing arguments"!

Mabey a New forum called Mature should be made? where only registerd users say 17+ are allowed access to it?

[hah]

There's no moderator favouritism whatsoever, and remember - will someone ever be completely honest about what they get banned for if they are in the wrong? No, I don't think so.

What are you on about Oli, its clear you fav me over every other user lol.......



I agree with getting rid of staff forums, (parts of them at least). I dont see why ex-mgmt need a forum for themselves, they left deal with it and move on. So what if they dedicated bla amount of years to Habbox (from what i heard its also dead). When i was there rare values and events had there own spam threads... this just stops them from posting in the normal forums even more. I also dont really see why they need a staff form for talking about things non Habbox related.....there is public forums for that also.

Them forums are there to do your job, not to talk to your mates

[Hecktix]

I don't post around here so much any more simply because I'm growing out of Habbox. Maybe others, including me, would feel more welcome and inclined to stay if the rules were relaxed, not a lot, but a little bit.

Basically the forum just needs to be made a bit more of a relaxed and mature place where we can actually have a debate in, for e.g., the Tech section without it being closed and everyone infractioned for "causing arguments"!

I haven't seen a PM or infraction for posting to cause arguments for a very long time, infact I think there's only been a couple this year and only in spam - arguments are permitted - but personal arguments aren't.

[Nemo]

Mabey a New forum called Mature should be made? where only registerd users say 17+ are allowed access to it?
Will be too hard to moderate, people can easily lie

[hah]

I haven't seen a PM or infraction for posting to cause arguments for a very long time, infact I think there's only been a couple this year and only in spam - arguments are permitted - but personal arguments aren't.

yeah i havnt seen them in yonks.. i use to get like one a week

[iLogan]

I don't really post as most of the members are harsh, and inconsiderate - I remember I once posted and I said your instead of you're and I got -rep for it :\

[Hecktix]

I don't really post as most of the members are harsh, and inconsiderate - I remember I once posted and I said your instead of you're and I got -rep for it :\

Then report it! Stuff like that doesn't get kept on :)

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yeah i havnt seen them in yonks.. i use to get like one a week

Graham, was that just kinda of a compliment for moderation? :O

[Kyle]

boring threads

summer so stuff to do outside even if it is raining

[Catzsy]

Well, i was just using at as an example of people being biased, it happened then and it'll still happen sometimes now. Atleast that's my view on jen's particular ban

Well I can assure you up until the time I left it didn't - obviously I can't see it now having said that remember you only get one side of the story and I am pretty sure that is the ban had been unfair it would have been lifted as has happened in the past to other members. :)


@ Remel I absolutely hate the 'grammar' police. It's a forum not an english language lesson and so unecessary I agree with you.

[scottish]

Well I can assure you up until the time I left it didn't - obviously I can't see it now having said that remember you only get one side of the story and I am pretty sure that is the ban had been unfair it would have been lifted as has happened in the past to other members. :)


@ Remel I absolutely hate the 'grammar' police. It's a forum not an english language lesson and so unecessary I agree with you.

Capital E on English.

I agree.

[buttons]

You don't have the ability to swear here, and that's not a negative. Going onto a website and seeing it full of vulgarity is an instant turn-off for many users and with every system that allows you to disable a profanity filter, almost always it will default to "on" when you login for the first time.
Agreed totally, especially for a Habbo forum. The filtering suggestions are totally ridiculous and I'm always against it, even the "wtf" and "fml". I've never been infracted for avoiding the filter iirc so it's really not that hard;) - except recently I got a usernote for quoting a post that said 'who're' and repeating it, mine got removed but the original didn't because apparently mine was avoiding the filter on purpose (i was laughing at the poor grammar of WHO ARE but the mod didn't reply to me, just one of those reasons I believe infractions are given out based on who the members are. I don't see how you can say it's not strict when I got 3 2point infractions within a few weeks when I've never had even one in the years before. The members who ask for the filter to be changed have probably been told off for it and they ask for it to be changed to benefit themselves and not the forum as a whole.
Decisions shouldn't be made just because a lot of members want it to, I see too much of that happening. It's only ever the spam lot that pretty much make suggestions and rarely anyone else replies so you're not getting opinions from everyone :/


Whilst I rarely visit the spam section, when I have it feels like a very hostile place for a specific group of friends. If you threw a new member into there, it's like throwing him, or her to the lions. I won't name people here, but if you want a close knit community that's fantastic, and I'd like to think your Administrators would support that, but at the same time you shouldn't be locking out new users from worming their way in.
Spam has ALWAYS been like that though and I honestly don't see people locking out new users just because they're new. Older members don't always get along neither. The thing is if a popular member posts saying someone's annoying the rest will follow, if they don't then THEY get jumped on. It's not so much that new people get told to get out, the active older members get the same said by even older members who don't post much anymore. We post in spam because we can have a joke and talk to our friends, newer people just don't realize that it's our way of posting and feel intimidated, I don't see why we should change how we are for 2 or 3 new people. They'll never fit in if they take everything so serious, plus the posts which are evidently used to be rude get dealt with (as do the banter ones but we can never win)


You don't have to instantly be best friends, but you'd be surprised how when you're nice to somebody you can learn to like them.
Yeah, this. I have realized that recently but people DO get annoying no matter how long they've been here. Their join date is irrelevant on how they're treated to me. People make a big deal out of of spam but it's really not that bad at all. There's someone who mutually annoys a lot of us (:eusa_whis) and it can't be helped.



The Moderation within this section should also adapt to not touching users just because they are known for causing issues - Buttons springs to mind here, and whilst there is a limit on what I can see, I believe this is another point for relaxing on the Spam section.
Pretty sure all my infractions are from spam >.> I will accept the infractions I believe I deserve and that's generally not a lot so I won't sit there and take them, I'll reply to the pm if I need to. Sometimes I don't get a reply or I get a few and they just leave it and I may get heated in them but I wouldn't need to if they didn't infract me for the most stupid things. It only happens in spam :S


Whilst Spam doesn't increase the post count of users, you have to face that it is within that section the different groups of friends are. If your wish is to let the newer users join in with these groups, the Spam section should really have an over hall entirely with the rule set.
The Djs have their own group of friends, as do HxHD staff, spam are no different except we get infracted quicker because the other groups are staff and s/mods can't deal with their posts iirc? Either way we definitely get treated differently even if they say we don't. The rules don't need changed, the way moderators deal with them do.


Right now, from what I've seen, Reputation means more or less nothing. It's a number, which unless you get a little red mark, is completely ignored. By resetting the system, you can implement the idea that was given of, say, 250 points for 1 month Donator/VIP and extend it even further from that, so for 500 points you could get additional features within the Spam section. I would suggest, however, removing the points after they are spent. (you could even have it so for 750 points you can add sparkles to your name, similar to the God rank)
mmm. people with higher rep look as though they should be respected more, it's intimidating. someone with less is less likely to be taken seriously over the other. i do quite like my rep though:P



Additional info: I'd also suggest removing the "Staff only" discussion board and changing it to a "Staff Annoucements" - Hidden points are pointless posts, you don't want even more niche groups.
have you seen this 'staff quotes'? i was informed that a member of staff put up a quote of another member of staff "owning me" (not in a nice way), i wouldn't say that's friendly or fair at all.


Totally agree that they should not give new members a hard time even if they find them 'annoying'. No excuse for it at all.
sorry we don't PRETEND to be nice, if i find someone annoying i will not put up with them. i'm not fake.


Also no moderator would 'touch' upon another member just because they are known for causing issues - there are very strict rules on moderation
Yes, they would. Anyone would if it meant they could get rid of who they wanted. Moderators aren't always the 'nice ones' but that's hidden because they have to act nice. yes. acting. as soon as they're not staff they're back to themselves i.e orangeesh

moderators cannot really stand up for themselves in public
COMPLETELY RIGHT. let me tell you something though, they can't stand up for themselves over pm neither. So many times I've had them report me to Oli instead of telling me why by themselves.
I once got infracted twice because a member suggested the mod to LMAO they can't think for themselves.


Nawh im sorry, i disagree. If we use the example of jen, what she was banned for (something very small afaik) was something she said to muct. I've heard people say A LOT worse to him and to others, and not get even a warning. So, from what i've seen, some mods to favour others. It's always going to be there because you can't really get around people being biased, but i suppose people can always appeal.

There's no moderator favouritism whatsoever, and remember - will someone ever be completely honest about what they get banned for if they are in the wrong? No, I don't think so.
Well if you'd like me to be completely honest then I will
I got infracted and banned for saying Catzsy wasn't my favourite mod, apparently this was rude?, how ridiculous is that?

Got banned again for linking to someone's profile and copying a part from it which said "OCCUPATION: PEDOPHILE" I got banned, they didn't bother to check it lmao. This is another reason I think members just get dealt with for WHO they are.

My recent ban was for telling someone to **** off and stop being a sheep. I will accept that because it WAS rude

you keep saying there's only one side shown. that side is the moderators side. 2 out of 3 bans reversed, hmm?:S am i still the bad one??

Honestly show someone who doesn't know myself or the mods my infractions and they'd say were stupid.

if you saw worse posts then if you had reported they would have been dealt with.
wrong. people in spam don't care how bad posts are >.<

i put in bold to show you how strict it is to people based on their past. i truly believe that. i got 2 points for saying shamu was in the audience for a joke, he took it as a joke so all should be well yes? apparently not because I HAVE A HISTORY OF BULLYING. that was my reason:S

oh yeh i see racist comments (niamh you can back me up, right?), i get "yea well you're scottish. scottish are neds. omg you're russians, russian spy" and stupid **** all the time, people mock koreans because i like them and nothings done about it. my recent warning? for saying canadians are ugly. DOUBLE STANDARDS.

[scottish]

Agreed totally, especially for a Habbo forum. The filtering suggestions are totally ridiculous and I'm always against it, even the "wtf" and "fml". I've never been infracted for avoiding the filter iirc so it's really not that hard;) - except recently I got a usernote for quoting a post that said 'who're' and repeating it, mine got removed but the original didn't because apparently mine was avoiding the filter on purpose (i was laughing at the poor grammar of WHO ARE but the mod didn't reply to me, just one of those reasons I believe infractions are given out based on who the members are. I don't see how you can say it's not strict when I got 3 2point infractions within a few weeks when I've never had even one in the years before. The members who ask for the filter to be changed have probably been told off for it and they ask for it to be changed to benefit themselves and not the forum as a whole.
Decisions shouldn't be made just because a lot of members want it to, I see too much of that happening. It's only ever the spam lot that pretty much make suggestions and rarely anyone else replies so you're not getting opinions from everyone :/


Spam has ALWAYS been like that though and I honestly don't see people locking out new users just because they're new. Older members don't always get along neither. The thing is if a popular member posts saying someone's annoying the rest will follow, if they don't then THEY get jumped on. It's not so much that new people get told to get out, the active older members get the same said by even older members who don't post much anymore. We post in spam because we can have a joke and talk to our friends, newer people just don't realize that it's our way of posting and feel intimidated, I don't see why we should change how we are for 2 or 3 new people. They'll never fit in if they take everything so serious, plus the posts which are evidently used to be rude get dealt with (as do the banter ones but we can never win)


Yeah, this. I have realized that recently but people DO get annoying no matter how long they've been here. Their join date is irrelevant on how they're treated to me. People make a big deal out of of spam but it's really not that bad at all. There's someone who mutually annoys a lot of us (:eusa_whis) and it can't be helped.



Pretty sure all my infractions are from spam >.> I will accept the infractions I believe I deserve and that's generally not a lot so I won't sit there and take them, I'll reply to the pm if I need to. Sometimes I don't get a reply or I get a few and they just leave it and I may get heated in them but I wouldn't need to if they didn't infract me for the most stupid things. It only happens in spam :S


The Djs have their own group of friends, as do HxHD staff, spam are no different except we get infracted quicker because the other groups are staff and s/mods can't deal with their posts iirc? Either way we definitely get treated differently even if they say we don't. The rules don't need changed, the way moderators deal with them do.


mmm. people with higher rep look as though they should be respected more, it's intimidating. someone with less is less likely to be taken seriously over the other. i do quite like my rep though:P



have you seen this 'staff quotes'? i was informed that a member of staff put up a quote of another member of staff "owning me" (not in a nice way), i wouldn't say that's friendly or fair at all.


sorry we don't PRETEND to be nice, if i find someone annoying i will not put up with them. i'm not fake.

Yes, they would. Anyone would if it meant they could get rid of who they wanted. Moderators aren't always the 'nice ones' but that's hidden because they have to act nice. yes. acting. as soon as they're not staff they're back to themselves i.e orangeesh

COMPLETELY RIGHT. let me tell you something though, they can't stand up for themselves over pm neither. So many times I've had them report me to Oli instead of telling me why by themselves.
I once got infracted twice because a member suggested the mod to LMAO they can't think for themselves.



Well if you'd like me to be completely honest then I will
I got infracted and banned for saying Catzsy wasn't my favourite mod, apparently this was rude?, how ridiculous is that?

Got banned again for linking to someone's profile and copying a part from it which said "OCCUPATION: PEDOPHILE" I got banned, they didn't bother to check it lmao. This is another reason I think members just get dealt with for WHO they are.

My recent ban was for telling someone to **** off and stop being a sheep. I will accept that because it WAS rude

you keep saying there's only one side shown. that side is the moderators side. 2 out of 3 bans reversed, hmm?:S am i still the bad one??

Honestly show someone who doesn't know myself or the mods my infractions and they'd say were stupid.

wrong. people in spam don't care how bad posts are >.<

i put in bold to show you how strict it is to people based on their past. i truly believe that. i got 2 points for saying shamu was in the audience for a joke, he took it as a joke so all should be well yes? apparently not because I HAVE A HISTORY OF BULLYING. that was my reason:S

oh yeh i see racist comments (niamh you can back me up, right?), i get "yea well you're scottish. scottish are neds. omg you're russians, russian spy" and stupid **** all the time, people mock koreans because i like them and nothings done about it. my recent warning? for saying canadians are ugly. DOUBLE STANDARDS.

I'm inclined to agree with this post

[Pyroka]

Lower the rep limit

ideas (these are ands and ors, put them as you think is right).

- rep someone, wait one month before you can rep them again
- if you rep someone, rep 10 more people before you can rep them again.
- have a maximum of 20 reps per month, as to limit abuse

eh? eh? eh?

[Calvin]

There's going to be a forum exclusive to new members which they can post whatever they like in, and the welcome committee have access to it so can help them where needed, treat them nicely, find out things about them and direct them to different places of the forum - nothing forced, all completely optional.What, so another forum where you can't reply? Great!

Atleast make it so everyone can reply because they can most likely get a quicker answer, the same with 'Ask the Habbox Staff' forums really.

[Tintinnabulate]

@ whoever asked
http://rbguides.com/screenshots/87c57daf.png

glad you are a fan of Indians


http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=657523 (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=657523)

:8

why steal my idea nemo


It's nemo, but yeah you got the idea of what i meant really. Although, i wouldnt like to see it being reset, it doesnt really mean anything atm, but a few people wouldnt like the idea of having a few years of dedication reset.

However, i agree with the rest of your points in that paragraph, and your post as a whole really.

Some people forget that some members bought reputation several years ago ...
Would be totally unfair to reset it.

Yes well the ---MAD--- bans are legendary

A bit like yours tbh. I mean you warned me for this :S :S


Just copied what I said on MSN

Yeah lol she probably got in and got told the start time. I bet she is in. LEAK.

Reason: In this post you agreed that ShazLouise was a 'liar' although you did not post it on the forum. It is also not appropriate for you to accuse staff members of leaking information. If you feel you have evidence for this you should report it.

Are you crazy? Its a big brother thread and you warn me for that? If anything, MAD was better.

Say what you all want, all mods care about mod logs and their reports take mod logs in account so yeah.

[hah]

lmao sav i was going to post something like that but i thought i might be reported or she might have felt like i was attacking her

[Tintinnabulate]

lmao sav i was going to post something like that but i thought i might be reported or she might have felt like i was attacking her

LOL. But I agree with what buttons said, very well written. +rep for the first time

[Hecktix]

Right then, I don't like where this thread is going and we've had sufficient feedback from it, a lot of active members posting and even more importantly those new members have posted too :)

The intention of this thread was never to start slagging people off, which I feel it can get to now as most ideas have been talked about.

We will soon be seeing:
- Welcome Committee
- Mod Tags
- Rep for Donor
- Maybe some other things from this thread, it's been most useful.

Thanks for all your feedback people, I will read through and issue more rep later.

Thread closed