Sandwhich shop business

[Eckuii]

Right, say like you went in to a warm sandwhich shop, what would you expect to pay for the following:
Bacon sandwhich
Sausage sandwhich
Full breakfast
Sausage Eggs and Beans
Bacon Egg Sausage Tomato


Also, if your family has ever set up a food business, how much is the general start up costs?

[GommeInc]

Ah I remember a sandwich/baguette shop in town near my school and college. Was immense! :D

A cost for a large bacon and egg mayonnaise baguette was £1.80 or £2.30 (can't remember, was so long ago but £1.80 seems awfully familiar). The baguettes were the ones you can get in super markets which are pre-cooked, all you need to do is oven them to make them crispy. It was quite a good business as it did deliveries and it only died because Subway opened up two shops in the town and it just died.

It depends what the sandwiches includes, if they're literally JUST bacon sandwiches, if they're warm/cold etc.

Starting up would depends on what facilities you aim for. Some places may come with the basic kitchen and oven facilities, and whether or not you plan to have it as an eat-in place or just a take-away business. Renting as well, for a sandwich bar you do not really need a large building as it's literally a place to queue, kitchen and so forth.

A year to rent a place wouldn't go too far into the £10,000 p/a, they sometimes stay (for a small place) between £800-£900 p/m. Food supplies vary on where you get them. I wish I could remember the companies that deal with food supplies here but I doubt they'll be the same in Yorkshire, but huge tubs of mayonaise do not cost that much and that's one of the things you'd need a good supply of if you aim on having sandwich fillers with sauces like that (bacon and egg, egg mayonaise etc). Butter can be cheap too, as you'd probably go for spreadable marge.

[Swastika]

If you open a sarnie shop you need more than just sarnies!
You need jacket potatoes, sandwiches hot&cold, drinks hot&cold, crisps and some even have like sausage rolls and other party food.

My dads currently opening a sandwich shop and it's cost him ALOT to open it, you need so many machines and stuff like hot and cold counters, heaters, chillers etc.
Stuff like drink machines too, costs quite alot of money to open up, a few grand at least i'd imagine to fully decorate and furnish from scratch.
Oh, and usually 2 quid a butty is decent.

[GoldenMerc]

mm will you make me food Adi for free :D

[flatface]

Right, say like you went in to a warm sandwhich shop, what would you expect to pay for the following:
Bacon sandwhich
Sausage sandwhich
Full breakfast
Sausage Eggs and Beans
Bacon Egg Sausage Tomato


Also, if your family has ever set up a food business, how much is the general start up costs?

I know of someone who has set up a bakery before, it's a very expensive process so i've been told. Obviously it depends where you want the business to be located. My friend basically set up a bakery in what was a shell and the total cost was around £95,000. There are also a lot of regulations which are very strict such as food temperatures etc which means certain things such as air con need to be considered, which I know isn't cheap. All the little cheap things gradually build up into something that is very costly.

[GoldenMerc]

Well its £120,000 to set up a Domino's franchise so - the rights you have to pay dominos prob about 90k

[Eckuii]

Thanks guys for your posts :) Its a good job that I arent setting up a Dominos then Ross ;).

I actually really want to set up a business like a cafe and wanted some slight ideas. I am going to ask around my area. I think when I got for a sandwhich, I always want a decent breadcake. If the breakcase is crap, the sandwhich is crap.

Well atleast I work at BNQ and can get my discount to set up ;).

[Swastika]

I'd probably rather go to a cafe than go into a sandwich shop, you should open a cafe. :P

[flatface]

Thanks guys for your posts :) Its a good job that I arent setting up a Dominos then Ross ;).

I actually really want to set up a business like a cafe and wanted some slight ideas. I am going to ask around my area. I think when I got for a sandwhich, I always want a decent breadcake. If the breakcase is crap, the sandwhich is crap.

Well atleast I work at BNQ and can get my discount to set up ;).

Very good luck to you! I'm sure it will be a hard process but also exciting and fulfilling at the same time :)

[Eckuii]

I want somewhere you can sit down and stuff like that and I arent just going to sell hot sandwhiches. Im going to sell all sorts, sausage rolls, muffins and the sort. As well as cold sandwhiches. Lucky for me, I have a plasterer, electrician, plumber and decorator in my family. As well as a very good friend who is Gas Safe. So im all sound on the decor front and such.

The thing with a cafe is that if you have a cafe, its a legal requirement to also have a toilet. Which you then have to clean when dirty builders come in for a poo.

[GommeInc]

I'd probably rather go to a cafe than go into a sandwich shop, you should open a cafe. :P
Sandwich shops are popular in the centre of towns for business people. If you're located near a business district they can pop in, get their sandwich and walk out, same with schools, colleges and universities permitting :) It's what a few in my town do at least, it's just a shame big businesses like Subway take over :P

[Swastika]

True, but i personally would rather go get a bite to eat and stay in and eat it. :P
Subway and all that probably don't sell as much as local sandwich shops anyway to be honest, why pay £3/£4 for a sarnie when you can walk down the highstreet abit more and get one just as good for half the price!

[Eckuii]

I am wanting to set up near a school, which is quite near some businesses. It is pretty much a perfect location.

[GommeInc]

True, but i personally would rather go get a bite to eat and stay in and eat it. :P
Subway and all that probably don't sell as much as local sandwich shops anyway to be honest, why pay £3/£4 for a sarnie when you can walk down the highstreet abit more and get one just as good for half the price!
You can do that in sandwich bars :) Unless the ruling has changed?

Subway is skanky, a good sandwich bar has fresh food available which I hope is your plan Eckuii :P

[Eckuii]

I plan on having like all fresh salad in a fridge at the front and all cold food on display for all customers to see :).

[GommeInc]

Will you be preparing hot sandwiches and baguettes behind the counter for them to see? That would be cool, seeing your food being prepared is nice. Smoked crispy bacon and egg with mayonnaise in a large baguette... Urgh, you've reminded me of Club Sandwich :(

If it was opening up in my local town you'd get a customer with me :P

[Swastika]

You can do that in sandwich bars :) Unless the ruling has changed?

Subway is skanky, a good sandwich bar has fresh food available which I hope is your plan Eckuii :P
Well some round here don't usually offer seating, usually in and out.
I can actually only think of subway that has seating facilities to be honest. :P


I plan on having like all fresh salad in a fridge at the front and all cold food on display for all customers to see :).
That would be quality, you've obviously got the right mind set for opening a food business.
Are you doing it by yourself or are you employing people to work for you?

[Eckuii]

I will probably employ somebody and perhaps run the business with my brother. Im only 18 but I think we could have the business set up in 2 years. If not, I could run the business myself in 4.

I have the full mind set to set this business up. I do need to get an idea of costs and such though so I can draw up a financial plan for it. That is why I was so interested in your input. I think buying food in bulk is good for making money but people want quality food and I obviously will want that at a low cost. But you will get more customers if the food is good. That is my idea anyway.

[Superior]

I'd pay anywhere up to £3 for a good sandwich but as you probably already know your prices depend on the area the shop is in, if it's a really posh area you'd probably be able to get up to a fiver. I think to be very successful the shop needs to look clean and hygienic and the food should be made were the customers can see. And obviously your food needs to be nice to keep the customers coming back! ;)