Habbox Live concerns

[HotelUser]

Hello Habbox Feedback!

I'm creating this thread with regards to the Habbox Live's current standards with regards to DJ professionalism and the roles of DJs on HxL compared to that of how they fair with other fansites.

I remember starting at Habbox, Habbox Radio and the change to Habbox Live. We used to get 300 listeners. This is a fact, there are various reasons suggested as to why we no longer obtain this listener peak. There's more radios, there's less users in general, there's not as big of an interest in radio streaming anymore.

Previously I would have assumed that the fanbase dwindled because of the latter two. However after merging in which many new faces were introduced to Habbox, and after listening more to HxL recently I do not believe this is the case any more.

I really do believe that listeners have been lost because standards of DJs have been reduced gradually over the years. I wouldn't necessarily put blame on the department's managers for this, because as another manager I'm aware that we do have to recruit the best that's offered to us.

As much as this might be disagreed with, or the ethics surrounding it might be considered rash, age does play a pivotal role in the professionalism and maintaining of high standards with DJs. That is not to say that all young DJs are incapable of DJing on the radio. I just think (after listening) that it's mostly the younger DJs (and of course it's not up to me nor anyone else not involved in HxL to name names) who tend to lose listeners. I've mostly noticed a loss in listeners when these younger DJs:
- Play the same songs over and over again. A new DJ comes on after a shift and starts playing the exact same songs we already heard, this loses a lot of users (despite rules about this. For instance just recently I listened to California girls four times in two hours; I genuinely counted. Not sure what's up here)

- Behaviour of these DJs in Habbox rooms and around the forum. DJs in the past such as Finkelstien or Leah built up a huge fanbase in the past for being incredibly active, professional and involved in most every Habbox department

- Experience. Although this cannot be acquired as easily with the younger folks didn't Habbox Radio used to have a separate SHOUTcast for training new DJs? More detailed criticism could be given to these DJs providing that we're not experiencing a recruitment crisis.

- This one is more harsh: It's less appealing to listeners to listen to younger (males especially) on air. As harsh as this sounds it's still in my opinion a roadblock. In general with the younger DJs--I'm not entirely sure how to explain it, they just don't seem confident when they talk, or they're not sure what to say exactly.

- That advertisement played. I know it's only played once every 30 minutes or something like that but it's a major turn off. I am perfectly aware of how sound the park makes Habbox in terms of financial security but surly they too understand that maintaining a fanbase is a requirement in order to provide sufficient advertising. I'm sure this could be resolved with some good old negotiation.

- There's been many times where there's been no DJ DJing. Mostly in North American times I think. Perhaps an international could confirm this one!

[ihatehash]

I totally agree with what David has said, just to add-on to this, I think the large number of DJ's also cause the professionalism in the department. A lot of the DJ's are not moderated and are not active as well as often screwing up when on air or just going offline at peak times. I also feel standards have dropped and the management is no longer pursuing the high standards.

[Dean]

I do agree to be honest. I remember when I used to DJ last summer, there was plenty of listeners and the majority of the DJ's were like, what? 16? Some young ones but there were so many brilliant DJ's who were 16, 17 etc. For example, Richie, Nicola etc.

I liked it back when the DJ's were more mature and it was great fun to work there! Unfortunately, as I returned to HxL after I resigned at the end of the summer, I didn't enjoy it as much as I did the first time, mainly because most DJ's left.

I've also heard from HxL DJ's that they struggle to get at least 100 listeners now! It's quite bizarre :O

I think HxL is a great department so this is a great thread you made David :P Hopefully some people comment about the concerns!

[HotelUser]

That's the plan Dean!

Bingo with Nicki and Richard. Two quality DJs inwhich compared to those todays seems to be standards fallen through cracks in a sense.

[Lindsey]

My opinion, ;

Senior DJs is a big issue for me, being a Ex Senior DJ. But I think there should be a rule on this. When on the Senior Account you should be able to DJ and not just be on the Senior account for ''hours'', cause i've asked some Senior DJs on the senior account to DJ to DJ or stream cause i had to go and i always seem to get a no, then i look on my msn, and look through the DJs and there is no one who can cover? Or the Senior DJs don't even take an effort to help and find cover, when I was a Senior I and I was on the account and someone asked to cover i said yes. Cause your suppose to be there to help?

Another issue is ;

Lack in DJing, I do see some DJs that aren't even posted away, and haven't DJed in ever and still staff. Most of them are international, and could help out with the late night streaming? Staying up till 8AM in the morning is ridiculous. Last night, I stayed up till 8AM, I had to speak on air at 6AM so it would be actually DJing cause thats when people woke up. but I find it ridiculous. I do understand everyone has lives, but I think the DJ requirement weekly should be raised since its summer and everyone is off and/or off soon.

[Dean]

My opinion, ;

Senior DJs is a big issue for me, being a Ex Senior DJ. But I think there should be a rule on this. When on the Senior Account you should be able to DJ and not just be on the Senior account for ''hours'', cause i've asked some Senior DJs on the senior account to DJ to DJ or stream cause i had to go and i always seem to get a no, then i look on my msn, and look through the DJs and there is no one who can cover? Or the Senior DJs don't even take an effort to help and find cover, when I was a Senior I and I was on the account and someone asked to cover i said yes. Cause your suppose to be there to help?

Another issue is ;

Lack in DJing, I do see some DJs that aren't even posted away, and haven't DJed in ever and still staff. Most of them are international, and could help out with the late night streaming? Staying up till 8AM in the morning is ridiculous. Last night, I stayed up till 8AM, I had to speak on air at 6AM so it would be actually DJing cause thats when people woke up. but I find it ridiculous. I do understand everyone has lives, but I think the DJ requirement weekly should be raised since its summer and everyone is off and/or off soon.

Don't they normally raise the DJ requirement during the summer?

I do see what you're saying though...

[Richie]

I agree with everything above. I can almost guarantee you will get flamed or the habboxlive djs will take it the wrong way. Some will say it was the merge that effected habboxlive however I disagree, I'm not sure if nicola remembers but almost a year ago the standards of djs were starting to get worse and began to lose listeners. I said to Nicola as I can remember clearly 'I bet you one day habboxlive will drop below the 100 mark' and it has, staff could see it happening from a mile away and my point is no-one tried to prevent it from happening.


Kazopark
That stupid advertising thing with kazopark definitely is effecting the radio, yeah habbox are getting money out of it but your losing the traffic. Below I'm going to list a few things that I think may help habboxlive.



Furni
When I tuned into habboxlive in 06 & 07 I'm not going to lie I mainly tuned in for the competitions and for a bit of fun. Prizes used to be stuff like petals, ambers and the odd week, thrones. Now its stupid pointless furniture like mochas or hcs. Habbox might not have the furniture to be giving away and I'm aware djs can't ask for donations. What I think jess should do and yes it may seem rude but ask people on the forum for donations. That way better prizes and more competitions can be supplied.



On Air Talk
I've seen how it works in fm radio stations as I'm sure others have and yes I know habbox isn't fm but wouldn't it seem more professional if your djs made a script before each show? Rather than them go on air and stutter and talk about complete ******** that no-one wants to hear. Ask the djs to prepare a script and what songs they are going to play, they can work their requests into the scripts but if all fails and no-one requests a song they can go by the script. This will also let you see which djs can be actually arsed to put effort into habboxlive.



Interact & make fans
Lets be honest, djs pop on air and the same listeners say 'your my favourite dj' but say the exact same thing to the next dj. The djs need to attract their own listeners, get on habbo get chatting with people and in the process meet new friends. Speak to more people on the forum, post around the forum a little more and in fact it should be mandatory that they post around the forum. As much of a ***** fest habboxlive is, the djs need to work together, when I worked for habboxlive I had my own 'group' as some would call it, when one of us were on air we would advertise loads for the other person, we would tune into one another and ask everyone on our list to tune in and I can assure you it definitely brought in more listeners. There was like five or more in our 'group' imagine how successful habboxlive could be if everyone worked together invited, listened in and were using their initiative to help out when not asked.



Spice up the shows
Try get the listeners more active, get a skype account and have a chat with them. Do what they do in fm radios, record yourself speaking to them, then play it on it on air (for obvious reasons) dig up some old tunes you haven't heard in a while, have a poll asking what songs the listeners are getting bored of, have a list for them to choose from. Introduce different genres, dubstep, r&b, rap, classical? do what you gotta do.



Speaking over songs & radio going off air
I have to admit, fair play. After the last rant I had its been cut back loads, which is fantastic. It still happens but what can you do. The radio still seems to be boring at night. Perhaps jin should take a look at http://shoutautomation.com/ they have been around a long time and its basically an online auto dj which plays when the radios goes offline and I'm sure you can set it so when a dj connects it kicks the auto dj off air. You can setup playlists, genres, what time you want a song played at, record voice clips to be played at certain times, add jingles etc. Its very helpful just a suggestion and no I'm not getting paid to advertise for them (Thanks to skizzling for showing me this). The radio is delayed by 15 seconds already, I reckon it would be better to delay it by about one minute so if the radio does go off air it gives another dj the time to realise the radio has gone offline and connect without buffer.



Advertise
Put up a few facebook advertisements, google, trade advertising links with other websites. Yeah it will cost money but sure habbox have money now from kazopark use it while you have the chance. The prices aren't too extreme for advertising.



Make the radio compatible for as many programs as possible
Flash, wmp, adobe etc. Have a drop down menu for visters to choose from.



Different competitions
Maybe I am contradicting myself with the above by saying we need more habbo furniture, maybe its time for a change. Give away cds, yes it may be personal to give out peoples full address. Parents should have the trust of habbox management, ask the listener for their parents name or ask them could they ask their parents to email you. All details should stay confidential and if they don't want you knowing their address suggest to their parents that you could send it to their nearest post office for them to collect. That way the only details needed is the post office address and the collectors name.



Take suggestions like a complement
It shows that some people are actually trying to help habboxlive improve its quality and existence. Don't take everything so personal it might sound bad but we are just trying to help improve habboxlive at the end of the day.



Jingles
Have jingles for advertising the helpdesk, the habbox lottery, the forum, the news, the rare values, the competitions and events. Sounds like a hell of allot of jingles but it will change the shows and make them seem different. They don't need to be played constantly.



Stop being so up yourself
I know some staff that won't even bother speaking to new people as they just think they are some how above them and better. Everyone is the same and both new & old should be treated with the same respect staff members get.





thats just a few suggestions that I think may help habboxlive, ignore them if you wish.
Richard.

[Samantha.]

I see where you are coming from but like you said Jess and Gemma can only higher what they get offered. I'm not a young DJ!

[scott]

I remember this thread coming up not so long ago!

The thing about DJs, you can't always hire people with expereince, the best habbo DJs. Like Samantha said, they can only hire who applys. What people have to understand is that people gain expereince and improve over time and that's what is happening with HabboxLive. You can't turn away people who apply whos clip sounds good because 'you have no expereince' that's hardly fair.

The listeners have dropped quite a bit and i'm going to say what I said the last time, shoot me down all you wish but it's what I think is the case. Habbox.com - It used to attrat a good amount of listeners, Habbo introduced the market place it took people away from using Habbox for rare values, the lack of content/things to bring people back to habbox.com and sometimes the lack of Habbox events advertising us on habbo.

Yesterday I was talking to Jess about it and during the HabboxStarz show they had 80 listeners 50 of which were all in the party room so it shows that the listeners that are listening are indeed mostly from the HabboxLive site itself. The Habbox radio player should be changed to the same kind as HxL - I know many people who have complained about not being able to listen to the radio whatever the reason is I don't know that could be one of them. When comparing HabboxLive to many other fansites around then there is a decline in listeners quite a bit the likes of ClubHabbo gaining 30 listeners and peak times, so it's not just us.

I think HabboxLive need to have a bigger presence on Habbo itself it is the only way to get in listeners - I don't know if this has changed but when i was Asst. HxL manager i tried to get a HabboxLive sort of chill/chat room made, well I had it made I was just stopped from using it and making it an official room. Things like that HAVE to be done presence on habbo gains the listeners all fine and well saying use HxHD but it really isn't the same.

There is a rule for events organisers to have to advertise the habbox sites during the events, is there any rules about HxHD staff advertising? I know for one I do not look at room descriptions so I wouldn't see the sites being advertised and I very rarely see HxHD staff advertising - maybe that is something that can happen.

[Circadia]

I agree with everything people have siad As a listener my self i use to tune in alot last year because there was more reason to listen for competitions and Djs i liked i have become less interested in habboxlive because there is no reason to tune in anymore the majority of the Djs act immature and they don't know what to say so they just make up random crap when they talk. I used to love Listening to people like Richie and Davey because they made it fun by doing things like find the Dj or GTP. They also spoke to you on the forum. With davey he was more prepared with his party rooms he would choose them before the show so he would be ready to get underway with the djing and he would have appropriate things to say to the listeners I dont think he ever partied in the HxHD because its very boring. But now-days everyone goes there and they cba looking for a party room because they cba with Djing altogether.

[ihatehash]

The thing about DJs, you can't always hire people with expereince, the best habbo DJs. Like Samantha said, they can only hire who applys. What people have to understand is that people gain expereince and improve over time and that's what is happening with HabboxLive. You can't turn away people who apply whos clip sounds good because 'you have no expereince' that's hardly fair.

The dj's are not improving, because there are too many dj's. When i came there was only about 25 DJ's and it was a really close team and everyone helped each other. now with over 50 DJ's people only talk to a certain bunch of people and don't help the new ones.

[Circadia]

The dj's are not improving, because there are too many dj's. When i came there was only about 25 DJ's and it was a really close team and everyone helped each other. now with over 50 DJ's people only talk to a certain bunch of people and don't help the new ones.
it also lets people who cba djing take a back seat while dedicated djs dj all the time like lindsey having to Dj till 8am in the morning which isn't fair
even with 50 Djs there is still unbooked slots like wth shoudn't all slots be booked if there are 50 able Djs to do it its not like they all have to go out at the same time. i think staff that are higher up should push people to DJ because people are taking advantage of dedicated Djs and just taking the back seat and not putting any effort in what so ever!

[despect]

I agree with the listeners that are actually really low recently, but i don't think we need a seperate shoutcast just to train djs as that would take too long really, i think some djs are improving in terms of djing, but i do agree in the past and possibly now sometimes the behaviour by some djs arent very good around the forum or offical habbox rooms, also to add i don't think the ammount of djs we have is a concern really seeing as its summer now, so more djs will start going out more and gradually become more busy, so whilst the djs become more busy, we can almost certainly make sure the radio is online, which it is up most of the time anyway, i think the ammount of djs we have are a good idea, bigger staff list means more time the radio is online for. :)

[Alex3213]

I agree with pretty much everything, especially Richie. First off, I'm not saying that younger DJs are 'crap' because there are a couple who automatically spring to mind where I feel that they are excellent and pretty proffesional. I personally think that, with slight exception, Multi-DJ shows should be banned. When this occurs sometimes the DJs aren't as proffesional as they can be and for 99% of them I tune out unless their attitude remains the same.

Some of the DJs SHOUT DOWN THE MIC. I listen to HabboxLive when I write or read news (haha plugged it, go read news woo) but some SHOUT DOWN THE MIC and nearly deafen my poor little eardrums, and more importantly (kk I lie), I lose my concentration and start writing a load of crap then redoing it because I know I've gone wrong.

All staff should help others, and quite ironically, it's only a 2 week difference trial which is seperating a lot of them. I know I communicate with my staff a hell of a lot because they're nice people, life's too short to make enemies (peple who know me well know that I'm being very contradictive).

I like the idea of the CD prizes, it's just a matter of trust and how much Management can afford to spend.

Also I do like the "take it as a compliment" thing, Richie. Again it sounds quite contradictive because I argue with comps changes a lot, but whether it's Management or just the public we tend to come up with some comprimise which will help us all in some shape of form.

I knew Jingles were meant to be coming a long long time ago, where are they? These really help and I remember in the day when it wasn't just "Habboxlive.com live, loud and proud", now it is.

It's the morning so I'm tired but I think the way you act when posting (this is the feedback people) really helps because it's far calmer than some of the posts I've seen in other threads and it helps prove your point more, however persuasive you may think it is :). Richie you're also gonna get some +rep for some valid points wooo.

Also, this post was written once JustAbii.x first posted.

EDIT:


I agree with the listeners that are actually really low recently, but i don't think we need a seperate shoutcast just to train djs as that would take too long really, i think some djs are improving in terms of djing, but i do agree in the past and possibly now sometimes the behaviour by some djs arent very good around the forum or offical habbox rooms, also to add i don't think the ammount of djs we have is a concern really seeing as its summer now, so more djs will start going out more and gradually become more busy, so whilst the djs become more busy, we can almost certainly make sure the radio is online, which it is up most of the time anyway, i think the ammount of djs we have are a good idea, bigger staff list means more time the radio is online for. :)

Aha! Brain click. First of all, do you use full stops?! :P

The amount of staff is somewhat affecting it. Not the amount, just the people. It goes in two ways:

1) Everyone books, some poor innocent soul does not get a slot
2) Only half the slots are booked, a lot of the staff are away and some are just not doing their job

I've seen this too much and it really bugs me. It's the summer yet there were still slots yesterday which had to be covered. Also, recently (not naming any names), there have been slots where people book, then 20 minutes before unbook it yet are online through their slot? It is annoying for Habboxlive Management, the DJs and the listeners and I really hope that these things are noted during people who do this' report.

[hah]

time to bring in fresh blood (new manager) i dont have a problem with jess but she has been in the position for years and its clear they need someone with new, fresh ideas. Im sure if management thought she was a great manager she would have been promoted to agm or something because she has been here so long, but she hasnt.

[Robbie]

As Scott mentioned previously, changing the radio player on the main site to a flash one like hxl.com would help. I did speak to matt about it the other day and he agreed.

I could change them over in seconds, it won't affect Joomla or anything, but of course I need management permission first

[immense]

time to bring in fresh blood (new manager) i dont have a problem with jess but she has been in the position for years and its clear they need someone with new, fresh ideas. Im sure if management thought she was a great manager she would have been promoted to agm or something because she has been here so long, but she hasnt.

im sure she got manager same time as me lol :S and think how long ago i was agm and think of all the time that i've not been staff. bless her, poor thing. anyway, hxl always has and always be **** lmao

[Dean]

I remember this thread coming up not so long ago!

The thing about DJs, you can't always hire people with expereince, the best habbo DJs. Like Samantha said, they can only hire who applys. What people have to understand is that people gain expereince and improve over time and that's what is happening with HabboxLive. You can't turn away people who apply whos clip sounds good because 'you have no expereince' that's hardly fair.

The listeners have dropped quite a bit and i'm going to say what I said the last time, shoot me down all you wish but it's what I think is the case. Habbox.com - It used to attrat a good amount of listeners, Habbo introduced the market place it took people away from using Habbox for rare values, the lack of content/things to bring people back to habbox.com and sometimes the lack of Habbox events advertising us on habbo.

Yesterday I was talking to Jess about it and during the HabboxStarz show they had 80 listeners 50 of which were all in the party room so it shows that the listeners that are listening are indeed mostly from the HabboxLive site itself. The Habbox radio player should be changed to the same kind as HxL - I know many people who have complained about not being able to listen to the radio whatever the reason is I don't know that could be one of them. When comparing HabboxLive to many other fansites around then there is a decline in listeners quite a bit the likes of ClubHabbo gaining 30 listeners and peak times, so it's not just us.

I think HabboxLive need to have a bigger presence on Habbo itself it is the only way to get in listeners - I don't know if this has changed but when i was Asst. HxL manager i tried to get a HabboxLive sort of chill/chat room made, well I had it made I was just stopped from using it and making it an official room. Things like that HAVE to be done presence on habbo gains the listeners all fine and well saying use HxHD but it really isn't the same.

There is a rule for events organisers to have to advertise the habbox sites during the events, is there any rules about HxHD staff advertising? I know for one I do not look at room descriptions so I wouldn't see the sites being advertised and I very rarely see HxHD staff advertising - maybe that is something that can happen.


time to bring in fresh blood (new manager) i dont have a problem with jess but she has been in the position for years and its clear they need someone with new, fresh ideas. Im sure if management thought she was a great manager she would have been promoted to agm or something because she has been here so long, but she hasnt.


As Scott mentioned previously, changing the radio player on the main site to a flash one like hxl.com would help. I did speak to matt about it the other day and he agreed.

I could change them over in seconds, it won't affect Joomla or anything, but of course I need management permission first


I agree with pretty much everything, especially Richie. First off, I'm not saying that younger DJs are 'crap' because there are a couple who automatically spring to mind where I feel that they are excellent and pretty proffesional. I personally think that, with slight exception, Multi-DJ shows should be banned. When this occurs sometimes the DJs aren't as proffesional as they can be and for 99% of them I tune out unless their attitude remains the same.

Some of the DJs SHOUT DOWN THE MIC. I listen to HabboxLive when I write or read news (haha plugged it, go read news woo) but some SHOUT DOWN THE MIC and nearly deafen my poor little eardrums, and more importantly (kk I lie), I lose my concentration and start writing a load of crap then redoing it because I know I've gone wrong.

All staff should help others, and quite ironically, it's only a 2 week difference trial which is seperating a lot of them. I know I communicate with my staff a hell of a lot because they're nice people, life's too short to make enemies (peple who know me well know that I'm being very contradictive).

I like the idea of the CD prizes, it's just a matter of trust and how much Management can afford to spend.

Also I do like the "take it as a compliment" thing, Richie. Again it sounds quite contradictive because I argue with comps changes a lot, but whether it's Management or just the public we tend to come up with some comprimise which will help us all in some shape of form.

I knew Jingles were meant to be coming a long long time ago, where are they? These really help and I remember in the day when it wasn't just "Habboxlive.com live, loud and proud", now it is.

It's the morning so I'm tired but I think the way you act when posting (this is the feedback people) really helps because it's far calmer than some of the posts I've seen in other threads and it helps prove your point more, however persuasive you may think it is :). Richie you're also gonna get some +rep for some valid points wooo.

Also, this post was written once JustAbii.x first posted.

EDIT:



Aha! Brain click. First of all, do you use full stops?! :P

The amount of staff is somewhat affecting it. Not the amount, just the people. It goes in two ways:

1) Everyone books, some poor innocent soul does not get a slot
2) Only half the slots are booked, a lot of the staff are away and some are just not doing their job

I've seen this too much and it really bugs me. It's the summer yet there were still slots yesterday which had to be covered. Also, recently (not naming any names), there have been slots where people book, then 20 minutes before unbook it yet are online through their slot? It is annoying for Habboxlive Management, the DJs and the listeners and I really hope that these things are noted during people who do this' report.

@Dinasaw - I loved that room you made! It was like HxHD only a lounge that was so chill. And you let me and Christina behind the bar and write all over stikkies hehe :p

@sex - LOL. True to be honest, I think although she's great, there needs to be a new manager. She's been manager for ages. Nothing personal against you Jess if you're reading this. :(

@Alex3213 - true dat

Posts merged by Nicola (Forum Super Moderator): Double post caused by forum lag.

[Dinosaurawrr]

I have to admit i haven't read all of the replys as I have to go DJ now as there literally isn't anyone else to do it.
I have made complaints actually which I shoulden't say but I have about some professionalism in the department from senior DJ's as they actually make me feel unwelcome on the team, they are unproffessional themselves at times and don't have the standard of senior DJ's as they used to. I personally belive one promotion was unfair and wasn't given to the DJ who worked harder but maybe a DJ whos been here longer, I think this shoulden't be the case and the DJ who works harder and puts more effort in be promoted.

Another thing is kazopark I hate saying it so much and we get forced to and I have to stop doing my show and say something I don't want to and it annoys me and it shows in my voice and thereore goes onto the listeners and they too hate it, but you cannot expect me to say something I don't wanna say in a voice that says I do.

I try extreemly hard to be proffessional and at times when i've had to DJ like two hours in a row when no-o ne else can be botherd to DJ it is so hard to not be tired and run out of things to say however I do things such as saying little quotes from listeners which they want me to say one recently was actually ''wet cheese'' sure you want me to say it on air, It's you whos tuneing in not me I will try my best to get involved with the listeners and try not to be TOO proffesional but the point is im not a proffessional DJ i'm a habbo DJ and I cannot be something I'm not however I try very hard.

Habboxlive does need a big change, however when I mention it I get ignored unless Garion is the one listening, him and managment/senior DJ's have diffrent opinions which is why im so sick of going to my managers sorry Gem and Jess but I am, I'd rather go to Garion when I know somethng will be done.

That's all I can say I have to go DJ.

[Robbie]

The player on Habbox.com has now been changed to a flash player to work in all browsers :)

[myke]

if habboxlive was supposed to be professional then ok

everyone starts somewhere and people make mistakes, HabboxLive is far from being a professional radio station which is the way it should be

all i have to say

ta

[scott]

time to bring in fresh blood (new manager) i dont have a problem with jess but she has been in the position for years and its clear they need someone with new, fresh ideas. Im sure if management thought she was a great manager she would have been promoted to agm or something because she has been here so long, but she hasnt.

She has been there a while and does a great job at managing HabboxLive - If she didn't she wouldn't still be the manager, how do you know that she didn't get asked to be AGM? I'm sure when nvrspk4 was general manager she was in the running to become it but nobody was able to take over as manager as HxL? I can't remember. When she became manager at first her and Jrh did quite well to get the listeners back up as they had dropped quite a bit, during her management the listeners managed to increase to 300+. It certainly isn't her fault in the drop of listeners, I was assistant manager at the time when they started to drop - the radio broke loads the server kept kicking people off and 3 weeks later it was still waiting to be fixed, even after many PMs had been sent to get it sorted. As I said it isn't just a decrease in HabboxLive listeners - all fansites are getting it too.


The player on Habbox.com has now been changed to a flash player to work in all browsers :)
Good :)!

if habboxlive was supposed to be professional then ok

everyone starts somewhere and people make mistakes, HabboxLive is far from being a professional radio station which is the way it should be

all i have to say

ta

I couldn't agree more I think people sometimes forget that the DJs do it voluntarily and that it isn't a 'professional radio'.

[xxMATTGxx]

There is quite a lot of posts I wish to quote but will take up far too much room.

Listeners: If anything I believe it's a bit of both. I don't think it's just the problems within the HabboxLive department itself but other online radios are also having lower listeners compared to the old times when there would be in the hundreds for pretty much nearly the whole day if it's in the holidays. Although improvements can be made to improve the current listener problem to see if it does anything.

Cover/Senior: Cover is such problem at HabboxLive, I've seen many times DJ's spamming msn asking for someone to cover but no one seems to do it. I'm not going to say "no one does it" because that would be a lie and I'm sure certain DJ's do cover when they can. This is something that should be improved by the HxL Management; maybe the Auto DJ Richie suggested could help in them situations. But Jin would have to say yes to that one

Kazopark:

I believe advertising this on air is part of the deal with Kazopark and Habbox. Obviously this is something that can't be changed with ease. I'm sorry if it annoys you that they have to say it like every show and what not.

Furni:

We do some of what have a furni/prize issue and don't have tons of amazing prizes to give away each time a competition is done on HabboxLive. Although Roxy can you give you the better answer to that as she is the one who mainly deals with any furni/prizes for the community departments.

Radio Compatibility:

I've just got Robbie (Site Coder) to change the radio player on Habbox.com. It should now work in all browsers without the WMP plugin. (Thanks to Robbie for doing that)


Regarding the HxL site; We will see.

Speaking over songs & radio going off air:

Speaking over songs can be quite annoying when it is tune you enjoy listening to or you requested. It has improved since the last time it was brought up but there is always room for more improvement in that. Regarding your suggestion for when the radio goes offline Richie, It could be ideal for times when no one can DJ but this is something Jin will have to say yes to. (Most likely)

I agree that Habbox itself and HabboxLive need to have a bigger presence on Habbo. This is why we have a week full of events and giveaways during this week (If I have the dates correct) which might/should help get the Habbox name more out there. Hopefully this will attack some new users from other parts of the world also.

@Alex3213:

"Some of the DJs SHOUT DOWN THE MIC." < Yeah some DJ's do like talk loud or shout loud which means I have to turn the volume down. Then the songs can be low and then I will have to turn it back up! :(

"All staff should help others" < I agree. Everyone should help each other, if they need help in doing something then help them/teach them if you know how to do something. Even if it's covering one of their shows for whatever reason. If you can do it, do it.

CD Prizes: Might have an issue with privacy and how many people would actually give out their address? Well the Post Office could do and it also depends on how much money we are willing to spend on prizes for our listeners.

Maybe the better solution is: iTunes or something. On iTunes you can gift Music/Films/Tv Shows/iPhone/iPod Touch/iPad applications, this way you only need an iTunes account and their email address right?

This reminds me of when DJ Sacha did a competition where she exactly did this. I believe it was popular? Maybe this is something that can be on a regular occurrence if possible.

Jingles:

Jingles were meant to come ages ago or something? I do not know what ever happened to that. I'm sure someone from HxL Management can alert me on what went on.

Regarding Hiring Staff:

I don't think we should turn away someone because of their age or lack of experiences. We all start from somewhere and we are not a FM radio station with 1,000s of listeners a day. They can only hire who apply and sometimes they can't do much about that. There is some great DJ's at HxL at the moment and there is also DJ's who could prove a lot and I'm sure they will do over time.

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I will keep looking at the thread and reply when needed. It's sometimes what hard to reply to everything but I think I've covered some of the main points.

[sammy]

I agree with almost everything David, Richie & Scott have said, +rep to you all. <3

Firstly, I hate the Kazopark thing. I feel exactly the same as Sacha, in fact when I first heard about it I thought it was a joke. It's impossible for us to pretend we're really enthusiastic when we're clearly not, I still think a jingle should be made for it but for some reason that hasn't happened lol.

I'm in two minds about new management, Jess does loads for the department and she's an amazing manager, but I do agree that someone with fresh ideas could be brought in, but obviously recently we've had a change in the Asst. Manager and I'm sure Gemma has loads of ideas in that noggin of hers ;). That being said, Jess is a great manager and I'd hate to see her go.

I do agree that more competitions with bigger prizes should be held. I'm terrible with comps cause I always forget to do them then try to cram them in in the last 10 minutes and it just fails. I know Aiden did a few throne comps and I think more of these need to be introduced.

In my opinion Habbox wasn't advertised anywhere near enough during the merge. I think giveaways should've been planned and held at least like twice a day, but I think the events dept have like a big week of events and giveaways and stuff so that should help with HabboxLive & Habbox as a whole. I'm really annoyed that Scott's idea of a HxL hangout was not allowed, it would've worked really well & advertised HxL a bit more.

I don't think there are many immature DJs at all. Theres a couple but as Scott says, they will obviously gain experience as they continue to work at HxL. I didn't have any experience when I first came so I think I've matured a lot and got better (hopefully :P). I really don't think there's a problem with ages of the DJs either, there's actually not many young DJs at all and I think it's just them sounding younger than they actually are - anyway applicants could hardly be denied "because you sound young" :S.

I think more events such as Habbox Starz need to be introduced, because that got us 100 listeners for the first time in a while, and the party room was full with 50 people, everyone was talking in there and the atmosphere was fantastic.

I might edit this post cause I forgot a lot of what people said so yh (A).

[scott]

Cover/Senior: Cover is such problem at HabboxLive, I've seen many times DJ's spamming msn asking for someone to cover but no one seems to do it. I'm not going to say "no one does it" because that would be a lie and I'm sure certain DJ's do cover when they can. This is something that should be improved by the HxL Management; maybe the Auto DJ Richie suggested could help in them situations. But Jin would have to say yes to that one


Speaking over songs & radio going off air:

Speaking over songs can be quite annoying when it is tune you enjoy listening to or you requested. It has improved since the last time it was brought up but there is always room for more improvement in that. Regarding your suggestion for when the radio goes offline Richie, It could be ideal for times when no one can DJ but this is something Jin will have to say yes to. (Most likely)

Jingles:

Jingles were meant to come ages ago or something? I do not know what ever happened to that. I'm sure someone from HxL Management can alert me on what went on.


Auto-DJ - a big no no. It was tried in the past and failed, someone would need to be on to kick it off - It would make the DJs lazy and just think 'oh well if nobody DJs it doesn't matter the auto dj will come on'. What was the big thing about stopping streaming? :S That's what that would be...pretty stupid and pointless.

Jingles were meant to be ready in March :) In May i contacted Jin asking and apparently there was no money to buy any.

[Dean]

@Robbie

Can you PLEASE add a volume control to Habbox.com? I have a Mac and I can NOW listen on Habbox.com BUT, it's too loud! and I can't change the volume. :'(

[Robbie]

@Robbie

Can you PLEASE add a volume control to Habbox.com? I have a Mac and I can NOW listen on Habbox.com BUT, it's too loud! and I can't change the volume. :'(

I don't know if there's space. It's currently set at 45/100 at default. I'll ask Matt though

[Dean]

I don't know if there's space. It's currently set at 45/100 at default. I'll ask Matt though

Thanks :D

[Robbie]

Thanks :D


OK, I'm going to try and add a volume control under the Listeners on the stats. It may not work though, so I'll post again later with an update :P

[Nemo]

if habboxlive was supposed to be professional then ok

everyone starts somewhere and people make mistakes, HabboxLive is far from being a professional radio station which is the way it should be

all i have to say

ta
Well they should strive to be as professional as possible, i dont know bout you, but i dont wanna listen to some amateur crap when i could just go to listen what i wanted or to a better radio station

not saying hxl atm is amateur crap, just usin that as an example

[Dean]

OK, I'm going to try and add a volume control under the Listeners on the stats. It may not work though, so I'll post again later with an update :P

Great :D


Well they should strive to be as professional as possible, i dont know bout you, but i dont wanna listen to some amateur crap when i could just go to listen what i wanted or to a better radio station

not saying hxl atm is amateur crap, just usin that as an example


True this. It's like saying, OKAY HXHD STAFF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO YOUR BEST! JUST TRY.

[sammy]

I think it's incredibly hard to get the balance between being professional and yet still sounding friendly. The age range of the majority of listeners is like 11-15, so you can't be too professional but obviously you can't sound like you don't even know what you're saying.

I think it's easy to say that DJs are unprofessional from a listener perspective, but when you're actually doing it it's a lot harder. I know it's important to sound professional and I always try my best to, I'm just saying it's a hard thing to do without sounding like some sort of robot ;).

[myke]

Well they should strive to be as professional as possible, i dont know bout you, but i dont wanna listen to some amateur crap when i could just go to listen what i wanted or to a better radio station

not saying hxl atm is amateur crap, just usin that as an example

and no doubt you're in the 'older' sector of the forum rather than the younger ones.

most younger kids don't really care if dj's talk over songs or whatever

[Calvin]

Auto-DJ - a big no no. It was tried in the past and failed, someone would need to be on to kick it off - It would make the DJs lazy and just think 'oh well if nobody DJs it doesn't matter the auto dj will come on'. What was the big thing about stopping streaming? :S That's what that would be...pretty stupid and pointless.

Jingles were meant to be ready in March :) In May i contacted Jin asking and apparently there was no money to buy any.If you're using Centova you can always have the AutoDJ for that and get the free script provided so DJs can login and kick the autoDJ on/off, just implement it into the panel so they can do it when they login to the panel. :)

[myke]

If you're using Centova you can always have the AutoDJ for that and get the free script provided so DJs can login and kick the autoDJ on/off, just implement it into the panel so they can do it when they login to the panel. :)

like scott said, it would make the dj's lazy and logging onto habboxlive to just listen to music is boring, which is why streaming was stopped anyway

[Dean]

If you're using Centova you can always have the AutoDJ for that and get the free script provided so DJs can login and kick the autoDJ on/off, just implement it into the panel. :)

I think Auto DJ is an excellent feature. I remember last year in the summer, I sometimes had to DJ ALL NIGHT. Meaning 2am-6am, just because no one was willing to DJ. I know that this has always been a problem at HxL (finding DJs at times and covers) so I think Auto DJ is the way forward. You can't expect kids to keep the radio up 24/7 can you?

Auto DJ is also widely available too.

[sammy]

I agree that some DJ's could get lazy if an Auto DJ feature was introduced. Streaming always drops listeners anyway, so we could end up with even less listeners than we already have. The radio is already online nearly 24/7 anyway so I don't really think it's needed personally.

[myke]

I think Auto DJ is an excellent feature. I remember last year in the summer, I sometimes had to DJ ALL NIGHT. Meaning 2am-6am, just because no one was willing to DJ. I know that this has always been a problem at HxL (finding DJs at times and covers) so I think Auto DJ is the way forward. You can't expect kids to keep the radio up 24/7 can you?

Auto DJ is also widely available too.

but why would you tune in to listen to songs and stuff when you can listen to the music you want by using itunes or spotify, the only time i tune into hxl is if theres something interesting going down in the habbo hallz `8=*+* or if there's some chatting ...

[Calvin]

I think Auto DJ is an excellent feature. I remember last year in the summer, I sometimes had to DJ ALL NIGHT. Meaning 2am-6am, just because no one was willing to DJ. I know that this has always been a problem at HxL (finding DJs at times and covers) so I think Auto DJ is the way forward. You can't expect kids to keep the radio up 24/7 can you?

Auto DJ is also widely available too.Yeah, i'm sure some people can't stand staying up that long so if no one will go on then they can just turn that on then the next DJ can turn it off. You could even schedule the Auto DJ to play at a certain time, like a certain playlist such as R&B/Dance.

Also, I think international DJs need to DJ more, it's always like this and something needs to be done. Just looking at the timetable, the only DJs who DJ during international times are Hazy and Matt and they book lots of slots each due to no other international DJs doing anything, i've not seen any other international DJs DJing really.


I agree that some DJ's could get lazy if an Auto DJ feature was introduced. Streaming always drops listeners anyway, so we could end up with even less listeners than we already have. The radio is already online nearly 24/7 anyway so I don't really think it's needed personally.Most DJs who DJ at about 3am etc. stream anyway, so it's just the same.

[myke]

As Calvin said, most international DJs DJ at national times lol, they need to be told to DJ at international times or not at all?

[Alex3213]

As Calvin said, most international DJs DJ at national times lol, they need to be told to DJ at international times or not at all?

I do agree to this to an extent. They're international, it's not so they can book at 5pm or some UK peak time. What sort of times do you think would be reasonable because I think from 10pm BST that's alright.

[Dean]

I'd listen to HxL if I couldn't be bothered to listen to my own music.

Sometimes listening to someone else play the music for you is great because you don't know what's up next and I find it so much easier than carrying an iPod (I listen to radio on my phone). :)

So streaming doesn't make a difference, and streaming at times of the day when listeners are not at peak would be good, don't you think?

[sammy]

I agree that Intls shouldn't be streaming in the early hours of the morning and should DJ more. The Auto DJ thing doesn't need to be introduced because that's the Intl DJ's jobs. I don't see a problem with Intl DJs doing slots in UK times but if they don't do slots in the timezone they're supposed to be doing them in then there's a problem.

[Calvin]

I agree that Intls shouldn't be streaming in the early hours of the morning and should DJ more. The Auto DJ thing doesn't need to be introduced because that's the Intl DJ's jobs. I don't see a problem with Intl DJs doing slots in UK times but if they don't do slots in the timezone they're supposed to be doing them in then there's a problem.Yeah Sam, but the thing is.. most aren't doing their jobs so I think the managers need to have a look over the timetable and check which international DJs are not DJing and get them to DJ more.

[sammy]

Yeah Sam, but the thing is.. most aren't doing their jobs so I think the managers need to have a look over the timetable and check which international DJs are not DJing and get them to DJ more.

I agree, I also thing apps for both Intl and UK DJs should open because both timezones are lacking in DJs that are actually doing their jobs. Almost every other hour the Senior Account is spamming my msn with "DJ FOR ____?!?!" and that shouldn't be happening so often. It's got to the extent where if you book a slot you are probably going to end up having to find a cover for the next slot. Apps need to be opened!

[Keri?!]

I do agree that obviously the listeners have dropped and has gone partially downhill but you can't put ALL the blame on habboxlive, for example people used to come on for the rare values alot, now the marketplace is the 'number one source' for prices that obviously affects people listening in.

Personally, I do think that the auto DJ is a good idea but should only be used if absolutely noone can DJ but the majority of the time the radio is up 24/7, the timetable gets cleared every day so you can't expect it to be all fully booked on that day, for example Sunday's timetable was on 24/7 - Timetable here (http://rbguides.com/screenshots/55217735.png)

I just think we need to get more international DJ's who can DJ during their own times, I mean we do have a fair few but if we had more who could do comps during that time aswell - not just streaming. We could then pull in more international listeners and now the hotels have merged, this should be much easier to do as more people are online during the night that are international.

I think it might be a good idea to community involved competitions, this is just an example but for example the one we did at halloween. If we had more competitions like that people could invite more and it would seem much more friendly that doing a few on air competitions whilst DJing. Habbox stars was a great example of this, the listeners really got involved and they went higher than they have for a while - if we things similar to this which always got the community involved that would be fantastic.

As for experience, you can't expect every single DJ to have experience, everyone starts off somewhere and as people have said you can't turn someone down just because they have no experience, that's ridiculous. Everyone gains experience whilst they DJ and every fansite has a different atmosphere so they just need to get used to that.

The kazopark has to be mentioned once an hour, this has been asked of all habboxlive DJ's.

I know many songs do get repeated on habboxlive but they are many DJ's who do play a huge variety! The new permanent shows introduce new music, for example Bethie's show introduces new songs and has reviews about them, these songs are all of different genres and just sound different. We have Sacha with her rave show, also another genre being introduced to Habboxlive and obviously I do the rock chart show every wednesday.

I do believe applications are opening sometime this week, so hopefully they will being even more talent and variety to the DJ team.

[hah]

i can listen to habbox now lol


Listeners: 85/400

told u that was the probs scott ;l

[Tintinnabulate]

I completely agree with Richie.

I remember when I joined, they used to be a throne competition every week or every 2 weeks and obviously throne was and still is a huge rare. It used to be advertised all over habbox.com and the forum that the users can win a throne.
That show would be hosted by the best DJs and used to get very very popular and I listened because of that. Now the prizes suck. Jin has a huge habbox donations room where he has rooms full of rares and super rares from donations - maybe he needs to give that to Matt to give out as prizes. The donations should be put in bundles and given out to attract people.

There was also going to be a huge giveaway last hours and hours after the merge ... not happened.

Habbox were very popular, become complacent and now its not the most popular anymore.

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Also Jin firing Richie was a stupid decision. He is an active forum member and I tuned in just to listen to him and he got fired :S He would have brought in more listeners than senior DJ's.

[hah]

I completely agree with Richie.

I remember when I joined, they used to be a throne competition every week or every 2 weeks and obviously throne was and still is a huge rare. It used to be advertised all over habbox.com and the forum that the users can win a throne.
That show would be hosted by the best DJs and used to get very very popular and I listened because of that. Now the prizes suck. Jin has a huge habbox donations room where he has rooms full of rares and super rares from donations - maybe he needs to give that to Matt to give out as prizes. The donations should be put in bundles and given out to attract people.

There was also going to be a huge giveaway last hours and hours after the merge ... not happened.

Habbox were very popular, become complacent and now its not the most popular anymore.

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Also Jin firing Richie was a stupid decision. He is an active forum member and I tuned in just to listen to him and he got fired :S He would have brought in more listeners than senior DJ's.

i heard oli texted him saying he didnt want richie to be staff... just a rumor

[Tintinnabulate]

i heard oli texted him saying he didnt want richie to be staff... just a rumor

Lol really?
How did you get the Christmas VIP back?

[hah]

GOT MY WILLY OUT FOR MATTGARNER


i said it was a rumor lol

[scott]

i can listen to habbox now lol


Listeners: 85/400

told u that was the probs scott ;l
We already knew that loads of people couldn't tune in using Habbox.com!


If you're using Centova you can always have the AutoDJ for that and get the free script provided so DJs can login and kick the autoDJ on/off, just implement it into the panel so they can do it when they login to the panel. :)

Like I said it would still make the DJs lazy and not want to DJ, @dean you didn't HAVE to DJ all that time nobody forced you to, it was your choice lol.

Not so long ago there was a big moan abuot DJs streaming and now the same people want an Auto DJ introduced which will be streaming again lol :S

[,Jess,]

I'm not gunna quote everything because it will take up too much space but anyway:

Listeners
The current listener numbers are dissapointing compared to what they used to be and obviously we are trying to get an improvement in this but there are many reasons for low listener numbers rather than the quality of HabboxLive (although I'm not going to lie that is a major factor). Habbo radios are not as popular anymore, yesterday during Habbox Starz I checked Clubhabbo and they had something like 30 listeners and HFFM were doing a similar event to ours and had around 100 at the time I tuned in. This time last year all 3 sites would have had at least double that (well ch might not have I can't remember if the radio was there then but still). There has been a decline in the overall popularity at Habbox everywhere and that is shown through the listeners and this can be down to changes to Habbo such as the marketplace but the only way this can fixed is if Habbox steps up its game as a whole and I know over the summer there are plenty of events and things to get the Habbox name out there so that should help.

Show quality
There is never going to be a way to get perfect show quality and all I can do is tune in and tell the DJs where they are going wrong and how to improve and I do this but it does take a lot of time because I like to get a wide variety of opinions from senior DJs and then listen myself to each DJ regularly and give them indepth feedback, not just 'you need to work on your show quality' - I like to tell them how else it isn't useful. When DJs don't take on advice or soon forget it, it is dissapointing and I cannot do much more than tell them. There are a lot of really talented DJs though and over time they do improve and in an ideal world they would all be perfect when I hired them and I would only hire perfect DJs but that isn't going to happen because none of them are perfect or professional DJs. People have always complained about show quality, but I know that we can get back to the standard that we were at and we are not that far off.

Staff numbers + activity
Someone saying we have 50 staff, that is not true we have 25 staff at the moment. Which is not enough for this time of year because to keep the radio up 24/7 they would all practically have to DJ at least once a day and that isn't taking into account people going away on holiday. We are opening applications later this week because we are in desperate need of DJs, especially international. There are not a large number of inactive staff like people are suggesting because just last week I was going through everyone and got rid of those that were doing nothing. We have about 9 inter DJs atm, so this would explain why it is the same people keeping the radio up and having to stream but this won't happen all summer because we are going to hire new staff and hopefully there will be a lot of interest from good quality DJs.

Age of DJs
The age of DJs should not even be an issue, it shouldn't be noticable and I do not believe how old certain DJs are is obvious. The truth is if someone applies and sounds dead young and like they are about 10 I don't hire them. But there have been people who are 11/12 who I have heard and then seen their age and been shocked. I don't look at age first but really the immaturity that is shown in some DJs the majority of the time comes from the older ones.

Streaming/auto DJ
Streaming is something that we should be seeing less and less of although there is quite a bit in the international hours probbaly because of the lack of international staff. We are aiming to cut this out and I don't think that the introduction of an auto DJ would help with this because as others have said it could cause staff to not bother and let the auto DJ do the work through the hour. The DJs put so much effort into keeping the radio up in fact I think it has been down for a total of 4 hours this whole month which in incredible and as soon as show quality starts to improve and streaming cuts down this will help us to gain listeners. People know that every time they tune in a DJ will be on and this is something about HabboxLive atm which is great.

Kazopark
This is something beyond my control but all DJs need to say once an hour is the words 'sponsered by kazopark' and that can easily be slipped in. I know some DJs start talking about it and how great it is which is not what is required so that could probably stop :P.

Prizes
HabboxLive as a whole is pretty low on prizes, well very. I am going to start building up the prize fun again and I want to put stuff to one side so I can give it to DJs to use in their shows because it is very hard to give out stuff every show and listeners often expect that so the prizes are lower so that it can be spread out more and I think for the time being this is better than nothing but hopefully things can improve.

Effort in shows and interacting with listeners
I think it was HFFM that had a rule that every DJ must do an event once a week in one of their shows. This could be something such as a guess the password, wina room, giveaway or maybe just like a special themed show idk. We could adapt this rule and make one for HabboxLive and this would mean that all DJs have to put in an extra effort which should make the show more enjoyable for the listeners and we could maybe have a page advertising the shows and this could help to boost listeners.

Using HxHD as a party,
I really hate the amount of times I see this room being used, it's small and boring for the listeners. I don't mind it being advertised in the offpeak hours but primetime I would rather it wasn't used at all. It gets so boring for the listeners and I would say 70% of the time it is used so we will be trying to change this.

Jingles
We were getting them, then I think there wasn't enough money for them and they aren't classed as a priority to management so not sure when we will get them.

I think I missed out some things but yeah can add them later

[hah]

yeah but seriously... who wants to go to a different site just to listen to the radio

[Alex3213]

Jingles
We were getting them, then I think there wasn't enough money for them and they aren't classed as a priority to management so not sure when we will get them.

I've only quoted that part because the rest of it sounds rather alright. It's not towards you but towards management: what is the priority, because personally this is very important on the advertising side of things?

Thanks.

[Richie]

Also I think a pop up player on the forum navigation with just the radio would come into great use and it will make a difference for the better. Small things like that would help in my opinion.

[Robbie]

i can listen to habbox now lol


Listeners: 85/400

told u that was the probs scott ;l

thanks to me (H)

[Calvin]

I was thinking maybe you could have the vault competition, get lots of rares in a room on Habbo and have a script on HabboxLive/Habbox.com and they have to get the numbers or something. Or even a competitions page and a different competition each week like tune in at a certain time and they have to get the secret codeword and the winner gets picked from a number generator.

[gangstaagent1]

I agree with everything above. I can almost guarantee you will get flamed or the habboxlive djs will take it the wrong way. Some will say it was the merge that effected habboxlive however I disagree, I'm not sure if nicola remembers but almost a year ago the standards of djs were starting to get worse and began to lose listeners. I said to Nicola as I can remember clearly 'I bet you one day habboxlive will drop below the 100 mark' and it has, staff could see it happening from a mile away and my point is no-one tried to prevent it from happening.


Kazopark
That stupid advertising thing with kazopark definitely is effecting the radio, yeah habbox are getting money out of it but your losing the traffic. Below I'm going to list a few things that I think may help habboxlive.



Furni
When I tuned into habboxlive in 06 & 07 I'm not going to lie I mainly tuned in for the competitions and for a bit of fun. Prizes used to be stuff like petals, ambers and the odd week, thrones. Now its stupid pointless furniture like mochas or hcs. Habbox might not have the furniture to be giving away and I'm aware djs can't ask for donations. What I think jess should do and yes it may seem rude but ask people on the forum for donations. That way better prizes and more competitions can be supplied.



On Air Talk
I've seen how it works in fm radio stations as I'm sure others have and yes I know habbox isn't fm but wouldn't it seem more professional if your djs made a script before each show? Rather than them go on air and stutter and talk about complete ******** that no-one wants to hear. Ask the djs to prepare a script and what songs they are going to play, they can work their requests into the scripts but if all fails and no-one requests a song they can go by the script. This will also let you see which djs can be actually arsed to put effort into habboxlive.



Interact & make fans
Lets be honest, djs pop on air and the same listeners say 'your my favourite dj' but say the exact same thing to the next dj. The djs need to attract their own listeners, get on habbo get chatting with people and in the process meet new friends. Speak to more people on the forum, post around the forum a little more and in fact it should be mandatory that they post around the forum. As much of a ***** fest habboxlive is, the djs need to work together, when I worked for habboxlive I had my own 'group' as some would call it, when one of us were on air we would advertise loads for the other person, we would tune into one another and ask everyone on our list to tune in and I can assure you it definitely brought in more listeners. There was like five or more in our 'group' imagine how successful habboxlive could be if everyone worked together invited, listened in and were using their initiative to help out when not asked.



Spice up the shows
Try get the listeners more active, get a skype account and have a chat with them. Do what they do in fm radios, record yourself speaking to them, then play it on it on air (for obvious reasons) dig up some old tunes you haven't heard in a while, have a poll asking what songs the listeners are getting bored of, have a list for them to choose from. Introduce different genres, dubstep, r&b, rap, classical? do what you gotta do.



Speaking over songs & radio going off air
I have to admit, fair play. After the last rant I had its been cut back loads, which is fantastic. It still happens but what can you do. The radio still seems to be boring at night. Perhaps jin should take a look at http://shoutautomation.com/ they have been around a long time and its basically an online auto dj which plays when the radios goes offline and I'm sure you can set it so when a dj connects it kicks the auto dj off air. You can setup playlists, genres, what time you want a song played at, record voice clips to be played at certain times, add jingles etc. Its very helpful just a suggestion and no I'm not getting paid to advertise for them (Thanks to skizzling for showing me this). The radio is delayed by 15 seconds already, I reckon it would be better to delay it by about one minute so if the radio does go off air it gives another dj the time to realise the radio has gone offline and connect without buffer.



Advertise
Put up a few facebook advertisements, google, trade advertising links with other websites. Yeah it will cost money but sure habbox have money now from kazopark use it while you have the chance. The prices aren't too extreme for advertising.



Make the radio compatible for as many programs as possible
Flash, wmp, adobe etc. Have a drop down menu for visters to choose from.



Different competitions
Maybe I am contradicting myself with the above by saying we need more habbo furniture, maybe its time for a change. Give away cds, yes it may be personal to give out peoples full address. Parents should have the trust of habbox management, ask the listener for their parents name or ask them could they ask their parents to email you. All details should stay confidential and if they don't want you knowing their address suggest to their parents that you could send it to their nearest post office for them to collect. That way the only details needed is the post office address and the collectors name.



Take suggestions like a complement
It shows that some people are actually trying to help habboxlive improve its quality and existence. Don't take everything so personal it might sound bad but we are just trying to help improve habboxlive at the end of the day.



Jingles
Have jingles for advertising the helpdesk, the habbox lottery, the forum, the news, the rare values, the competitions and events. Sounds like a hell of allot of jingles but it will change the shows and make them seem different. They don't need to be played constantly.



Stop being so up yourself
I know some staff that won't even bother speaking to new people as they just think they are some how above them and better. Everyone is the same and both new & old should be treated with the same respect staff members get.





thats just a few suggestions that I think may help habboxlive, ignore them if you wish.
Richard.

K I only read one page, and this poped out to me. After reading this, I started to speak to Jess. As you said about the skype account, I spoke to Jess about maybe getting it online and starting to talk to people. She agreed to letting this happen. We will get it posted on the twitter account so that listeners who have skype can freely add it.

[hah]

i said do a talk show ages ago using skype :l

[Calvin]

i said do a talk show ages ago using skype :lYeah this would be good, or even who wants to be a millionaire or something. :P

Also, I think someone could try and get a Habbo staff member on Habbox as theres been alot of changes, so someone who managed the US Hotel or something.

[Angel-Light]

I am going to be quite controversial and say that maybe it is time to close down Habboxlive? Why I am saying this is that in the past departments have been shut down due to the lack of users (HabboxTv, Habbo Friends etc).

Why do I think this should happen? There is no need for Habbo radios now, going back about 6 years ago it was the boom for Habbo radios with HabboHut and Habboxradio being the main competitors. At that point the radio would be on often and listeners would be sky high but now they barely reach over 100 listeners?

If the radio department was gotten rid of then it would save on money and space for habbox overall. Sorry to all those working at HxL, you are doing a good job but maybe it is time for a re-think on the department

[Alex3213]

Yeah this would be good, or even who wants to be a millionaire or something. :P

Faults:

1) What happens if they haven't got a mic?
2) What happens if they swear on air?
3) How would someone get picked?

The knots need tying up even before the idea is planned really.

[Dean]

I am going to be quite controversial and say that maybe it is time to close down Habboxlive? Why I am saying this is that in the past departments have been shut down due to the lack of users (HabboxTv, Habbo Friends etc).

Why do I think this should happen? There is no need for Habbo radios now, going back about 6 years ago it was the boom for Habbo radios with HabboHut and Habboxradio being the main competitors. At that point the radio would be on often and listeners would be sky high but now they barely reach over 100 listeners?

If the radio department was gotten rid of then it would save on money and space for habbox overall. Sorry to all those working at HxL, you are doing a good job but maybe it is time for a re-think on the department

This is a really good idea!

I heard Molly.22 talk about it in the Help Desk.

Although, I do think closing HxL completely is maybe something the management WON'T do.

I think that HxL should get closed and basically merge it with Habbox so basically you just DJ on Habbox, and say "You're tuned into Habbox" and it's just on the main site with a radio section.

[sammy]

@Angel-Light I think a bit of time should be given to see what will happen before closing HxL down is considered. It's been literally about 3-4 months of listeners being bad, that could easily change and the listeners could eventually get back to what they were. Other radios such as ClubHabbo & HFFM aren't closing down and they have even less listeners than HabboxLive.

Edit: I like Dean's idea though, HabboxLive & Habbox could be merged. Sounds a bit weird saying "you're tuned into Habbox" though, I'm probably just used to hearing HabboxLive xD

[Richie]

Shutting down the radio because its not as active as it was before is stupid. Overall habbox has hit rock bottom its not only habboxlive thats having problems. Rare values is having problems, ahh sure lets close the rare values. Oh and news is becoming inactive too lets shut that down too. If habbox start killing departments eventually there will be nothing left. Sure, if habboxlive closes you might aswell scrap everything but the forum, habbox.com won't be needed, not many people read the news because they have habbo news and no one uses the rare values because of the marketplace.

If habboxlive closes down I can assure you it will slowly kill habbox, habbox needs to keep its departments but work with them to make them popular again. It can happen it just needs effort and a bit of money.

[Alex3213]

I also agree with Dean, Habboxlive isn't needed as a whle site and really just needs one tab which puts all things which are needed in it. Saves money too.

[Richie]

I also agree with Dean, Habboxlive isn't needed as a whle site and really just needs one tab which puts all things which are needed in it. Saves money too.

What money does it save exactly? I'm sure even if the habboxlive site was scraped they would still stick were their hosting package. The domain? If jin is struggling to pay what 10£ a year for a domain close habbox now.


EDIT:
In the past habboxlive was just a player but overtime the radio community itself started to break away and habboxlives own site brought it back together, getting rid of the site is only going to make things worse.

[,Jess,]

I think HabboxLive is needed as a whole site, merging it would damage it even more like it did before. We have our own space and people can tune in via Habbox if they wish.

I don't think that HabboxLive's time is up just yet we are going to try and improve, I was just talking with Roxy and we are going to work to make sure that the shows are more interesting with more chances to win bigger and better prizes and the bigger competitions will happen more often.

[HotelUser]

I think closing HxL altogether might be overshooting the runway. No, it's nowhere near as prosperous as it once was but that doesn't mean that we're struggling to maintain 20-30 listeners. If this were the case (or if it is and I'm wrong here) then closing would be plausible.

[Calvin]

I'll most likely be killed by HabboxLive staff for saying this, but I think HabboxLive should be merged with Habbox. I mainly listen to the radio on the HabboxLive website because it's much faster than Habbox.com, but hopefully in Habbox V6 it'll be much faster and it doesn't really need it's own website now. And are you actually allowed to advertise HabboxLive.com on Habbo btw?

[despect]

I think closing HxL altogether might be overshooting the runway. No, it's nowhere near as prosperous as it once was but that doesn't mean that we're struggling to maintain 20-30 listeners. If this were the case (or if it is and I'm wrong here) then closing would be plausible.

we get a lot more then 20/30 listeners LOL, but more to the point, i don't think HxL should be closed all together, i think its Habbox as a whole that has become less popular. Maybe due to the merge and lack of support from habbo? i'm not actually sure why we get less listeners. But i know that it shouldnt just be closed down, i think if habboxlive did more things to get listeners/community involved it'll work out well. :)

[Alex3213]

we get a lot more then 20/30 listeners LOL, but more to the point, i don't think HxL should be closed all together, i think its Habbox as a whole that has become less popular. Maybe due to the merge and lack of support from habbo? i'm not actually sure why we get less listeners. But i know that it shouldnt just be closed down, i think if habboxlive did more things to get listeners/community involved it'll work out well. :)

I personally haven't noticed the difference in HxF activity when it comes to people online and also there have been a lot of threads recently. I'm still up of merging HxL and Hx sites.

[HotelUser]

If anything the merge should be benefiting us more than we've let it :P

[Robbie]

With regards to merging Hx and HxL, me and Blob mentioned it a while ago and 95% of the HxL staff disagreed with it, so I don't think it would be a very popular move with the staff.

[Alex3213]

With regards to merging Hx and HxL, me and Blob mentioned it a while ago and 95% of the HxL staff disagreed with it, so I don't think it would be a very popular move with the staff.

I just don't understand why, though. Content wise you can fit it in in one tab

[Richie]

Keep it how it is but add a popup player, that way everyones happy.

[sammy]

I just don't understand why, though. Content wise you can fit it in in one tab

Oh so you want it to not play when you go on Habbox, just have it under a tab that you have to click to play it? :|

That way listeners will be far worse than they already are?

[Robbie]

Keep it how it is but add a popup player, that way everyones happy.

There is a popup player on Habbox.com

[Angel-Light]

A merge would be a good idea and with 95% of the staff disagreeing? Tell them to grow up. If overall it will make listeners boost up then they should be happy, they will still get to keep their jobs and nothing will change except that everything will be located in one area.

Why I am very strong about the change and that the staff should be happy is that at my work recently everyone's hours have been changed to those that they do not wish to do. Did we have a choice? No, management did it anyway.

A major rehaul of the radio department is needed

[Calvin]

Oh so you want it to not play when you go on Habbox, just have it under a tab that you have to click to play it? :|

That way listeners will be far worse than they already are?No, it'll be playing automatically but just have community, jobs and stuff under a tab named HabboxLive. And i'm sure most people will use Habbox in V6. ;)

Said it before, but I think you should try and get some Habbo staff on the radio, like US and SG staff and stuff. Their time obviously.

[Dinosaurawrr]

I don't see how you are all saying merge hxl and habbox.
people tune in from both parts therefore it WON'T make a diffrence what so ever.
Habboxlive has fought for ages to get Habboxlive as a whole on its own that is why Hxl is so keen on keeping it.
If there really was a problem with cost then Jin would of merged it back on his own accord although saying that us as staff don't have a say if Jin wanted to merge he would regardless of what we say.


Getting rid of the radio completly is taking things way to far.

[Robbie]

Great :D




True this. It's like saying, OKAY HXHD STAFF, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO YOUR BEST! JUST TRY.

OK, so about the volume control, I can't find anywhere to add it. If anyone can suggest a place they think would be suitable, that'd be great :)

[sammy]

A merge would be a good idea and with 95% of the staff disagreeing? Tell them to grow up. If overall it will make listeners boost up then they should be happy, they will still get to keep their jobs and nothing will change except that everything will be located in one area.

Why I am very strong about the change and that the staff should be happy is that at my work recently everyone's hours have been changed to those that they do not wish to do. Did we have a choice? No, management did it anyway.

A major rehaul of the radio department is needed

Comparing a Habbox job to a real life one is ridiculous. This is a Habbo radio, we're not talking real life. As far as I'm aware changes are being made and today listeners have gone up dramatically, we're now on 98 which is great considering yesterday we were at like 60.

I think over the holidays the listeners should pick up again, the signs of them doing so are there so it should happen with a few big competitions and events and things like that.

[Dean]

OK, so about the volume control, I can't find anywhere to add it. If anyone can suggest a place they think would be suitable, that'd be great :)

Could you add a button underneath Current Song or maybe remove the "External Player" button and replace it with a speaker icon?

[Robbie]

Could you add a button underneath Current Song or maybe remove the "External Player" button and replace it with a speaker icon?

Hmm, by external player you mean the pop up player? I think that the popup player is used quite a bit so I don't know. Putting one under the current song would make the two boxes uneven and I don't know if it's been coded "expandable" or not.

[Dean]

Hmm, by external player you mean the pop up player? I think that the popup player is used quite a bit so I don't know. Putting one under the current song would make the two boxes uneven and I don't know if it's been coded "expandable" or not.

Hmm, can't you create another tab on top of the thing where it says "Listen Live" saying "Volume"?

[Dinosaurawrr]

Do we really need the stop for 28 days button you could remove that?

[Alex3213]

Do we really need the stop for 28 days button you could remove that?

I personally think this is losing users, whether it's just because of previous performance or accidentally.

[Robbie]

Do we really need the stop for 28 days button you could remove that?

Ask Matt/Alkaz for their opinion on that.

EDIT: There was a bug where you couldn't re-enable the radio after you disabled it for 31 days. Just fixed that :)

[Hecktix]

Sorry but yes, we do need the disable button. I don't like HabboxLive blaring out everytime I go to Habbox.com.

[hah]

I think HabboxLive is needed as a whole site, merging it would damage it even more like it did before. We have our own space and people can tune in via Habbox if they wish.

I don't think that HabboxLive's time is up just yet we are going to try and improve, I was just talking with Roxy and we are going to work to make sure that the shows are more interesting with more chances to win bigger and better prizes and the bigger competitions will happen more often.

Care to explain how it would damage the site? I could only see it benefiting Habboxlive, it would have all listeners tuned into one site instead of separated on two sites where information is limited on both. You could have all the radio information on one site instead of being redirected to another... I think your just against it because it would mean your not in control of a site and you wanna be... since your here so long and still not agm

All departments seem to be all talk no action (apart from like 3)
when you say there is a problem they agree and never do anything about it

[Hecktix]

Now, I'm not an expert on any of this but with what I've heard of V6 I think it would be possible to have whats on the HxL site incorporated into the Hx.com site and for some users it could be set up to be like a HxL site

[,Jess,]

Care to explain how it would damage the site? I could only see it benefiting Habboxlive, it would have all listeners tuned into one site instead of separated on two sites where information is limited on both. You could have all the radio information on one site instead of being redirected to another... I think your just against it because it would mean your not in control of a site and you wanna be... since your here so long and still not agm

All departments seem to be all talk no action (apart from like 3)
when you say there is a problem they agree and never do anything about it

Last time when they merged we had endless technical problems that led to the site being updated rarely. Then there was the fact that the listeners said they didn't like it and things such as competitions and events we did got significantly less entries. Basically the popularity declined and I don't want to encourage that anymore than what is happening at the moment.

[Robbie]

Now, I'm not an expert on any of this but with what I've heard of V6 I think it would be possible to have whats on the HxL site incorporated into the Hx.com site and for some users it could be set up to be like a HxL site

Yeah, that's what me and Blob suggested and HxL staff didn't seem to like the idea.

[hah]

Last time when they merged we had endless technical problems that led to the site being updated rarely. Then there was the fact that the listeners said they didn't like it and things such as competitions and events we did got significantly less entries. Basically the popularity declined and I don't want to encourage that anymore than what is happening at the moment.

Im sure with the new site coming you wouldnt face such problems and with a good few coders now things would be sorted quicker.
And why is gods name did you change the type of competitons you did onces you moved sites? That is just silly and seems like a lie to me

[,Jess,]

Im sure with the new site coming you wouldnt face such problems and with a good few coders now things would be sorted quicker.
And why is gods name did you change the type of competitons you did onces you moved sites? That is just silly and seems like a lie to me

We didn't change the type of competitions, what I meant was people were confused and put off by the site being all one and when there were events and competitions on the site people didn't see them because with the space we had we couldn't stick them on the first page so it is the first thing everyone sees. This meant that less people entered the compeitions.

[scott]

Im sure with the new site coming you wouldnt face such problems and with a good few coders now things would be sorted quicker.
And why is gods name did you change the type of competitons you did onces you moved sites? That is just silly and seems like a lie to me

It was Jin and MAD who were in charge when it merged the last time - the two of them are quite good at sorting things so i don't think it makes any difference if there is coders etc now. I really don't think the sites should merge last time it failed and the listeners went down quite rapidly as soon as it merged. I really don't see no need for it to be merged having the 2 sites is much better keeps HabboxLive content seperate from Habbox. You said about that Jess wouldn't have as much freedom on the site and that's why she doesn't want it to go ahead, the only way she can manage the site is by having full acess to do what ever she needs to it's like saying forum managers shouldn't have access to AdminCP and have to ask matt to do things for them...That's how it was when it merged Jess had to contact MR.OSH to get things changed/added if i remember correctly which is just stupid.

[beth]

iya! i've only recentely come back to dj here after a 3 year break, and i do agree somethings need changing. but i don't think it's the right time to think about closing down the radio completely, though i agree a merge with the habbox site would be awesome.

1) the cover issue. number one, i dj for FREE at habbox (not saying we should be paid btw), it's a voluntary service and if i book to do one hour, i expect to do one hour. the problem is, there's a few dj's on the team (not mentioning names) who see a free slot at the beginning of the week, book them all up and then don't turn up. and the dj before is left to cover for 1, sometimes maybe 2 hours. y'know, we do have lives. i currently work full time aswell, and if i'm dj'ing for an hour, that is ALL i want to do. i think certain dj's need to really re-consider whether they wanna actually dj (i know this is gonna sound really mean), but it's not fair for 5 or so dj's to have to sit up all night, or sit around WAITING for you to miss a slot. and that's how it feels sometimes with some people. i know i'm not the only person saying it either, for one i know samology agrees with me, as we were talking about it yesterday.

2.) i'm not a great fan in luring listeners with prizes. yeah, okay listeners have dropped. but quite frankly; i would rather have someone listening to me because they ENJOY the music/dj'ing and not listening cause i'm gonna give them a ******* hc at the end of it. i find it quite insulting ahaha.

3.) i STRIVE to bring diversity into my shows with genre and the maturity of shows. (etc reviews, critiques etc) and i do manage to hold listeners during my shows, so maybe this is a route to go down? instead of the same old stuff.

4) i personally think the DJ should not go all night, because the streaming just looks stupid after a while. i think we have enough UK dj's. we should hire some more american/austrailian ones and people should work on a timetable for their timezone. because sometimes, it's hard for UK dj's to get a primetime 7-8pm slot because an international dj has that, but at 7-8pm their time, the radio is streaming.

and that's everything i have to say really; i enjoy dj'ing. i've worked on a professional FM radio, and i used to much rather enjoy habboxlive because it's fun and it's not all target based. i'm just sick of booking a slot, and knowing i'm more than likely gonna have to do the next.

apart from that, loving you hxl xoxox

[Robbie]

It was Jin and MAD who were in charge when it merged the last time - the two of them are quite good at sorting things so i don't think it makes any difference if there is coders etc now. I really don't think the sites should merge last time it failed and the listeners went down quite rapidly as soon as it merged. I really don't see no need for it to be merged having the 2 sites is much better keeps HabboxLive content seperate from Habbox. You said about that Jess wouldn't have as much freedom on the site and that's why she doesn't want it to go ahead, the only way she can manage the site is by having full acess to do what ever she needs to it's like saying forum managers shouldn't have access to AdminCP and have to ask matt to do things for them...That's how it was when it merged Jess had to contact MR.OSH to get things changed/added if i remember correctly which is just stupid.

All HabboxLive content could go in a separate directory which Jess would have FTP access to?

[scott]

All HabboxLive content could go in a separate directory which Jess would have FTP access to?

Why? What's the problem with a seperate site? May as well integrate the forum into Habbox.com as well just on a tab...:)

[Calvin]

For Jess, she can have access to edit the HabboxLive stuff with the new panel I think, and users can style the site with HabboxLive widgets etc. Maybe if you visit HabboxLive.com then it'll do it all for you.

[HotelUser]

I'm not sure what the benefits of merging the two would be versus having a radio player and perhaps widget on habbox.com and having the separate website. As it's setup now don't we benefit from best of both worlds already :P

[kuzkasate]

I logged in just to comment on this.
I totally agree. I remember when the DJs actually used to be fun.. they made me want to listen.
And about the young DJs thing, its totally true. When I started DJing at around 11, I knew I was good, cos I practised it to myself, but when I came on air, I was kinda shy & didnt know what to say and how to control myself. It took me a few years of DJing to grasp how to do it perfectly (even though I quit DJing cos I didnt have time :P )

But I think, you should only keep the very good & perfect DJs. The DJs that are just "okay" or "alright" or are "sometimes good, sometimes not" should be fired along with the inactive & rulebreaking ones. You should also have a minimum age requirement to become a DJ, I suggest 14/15 because it took me 3 years (until I was 14) to have the FULL skills, confidence, experience and knowledge in DJing.

[Dinosaurawrr]

I'm not sure what the benefits of merging the two would be versus having a radio player and perhaps widget on habbox.com and having the separate website. As it's setup now don't we benefit from best of both worlds already :P

I agree with this.
It wouldent change at all.
Best doing what people are happier with and it seems staying the way it is.

[gangstaagent1]

I logged in just to comment on this.
I totally agree. I remember when the DJs actually used to be fun.. they made me want to listen.
And about the young DJs thing, its totally true. When I started DJing at around 11, I knew I was good, cos I practised it to myself, but when I came on air, I was kinda shy & didnt know what to say and how to control myself. It took me a few years of DJing to grasp how to do it perfectly (even though I quit DJing cos I didnt have time :P )

But I think, you should only keep the very good & perfect DJs. The DJs that are just "okay" or "alright" or are "sometimes good, sometimes not" should be fired along with the inactive & rulebreaking ones. You should also have a minimum age requirement to become a DJ, I suggest 14/15 because it took me 3 years (until I was 14) to have the FULL skills, confidence, experience and knowledge in DJing.

If we fired all the kind of DJs you have said, how would anyone improve? If you follow what you say, you wouldn't be a DJ at the age that you started off young. HabboxLive hires DJs that have potential. How can you expect them do improve if you fire them? I mean I would understand that after a few months if that, they haven't improved at all they could be fired. However if you just want to dismiss all the as you say "the very good & perfect DJs". Everyone is NOT like you. Some DJs at a very young age are very good. How would you feel at the age of 11 that you started you got fired because you are not one of the "very good & perfect DJs". If you were fired at 11, you wouldn't have the chance to be, or as you say "have the FULL skills, confidence, experience and knowledge in DJing". Honestly, I disagree with the whole second half of your post. You cannot limit the age of the DJs because of the age YOU have found or as you say found "Perfection".

Honestly, off the topic of this thread, your post was very disrespectful. You said in your post and I quote "I remember when the DJs actually used to be fun.. they made me want to listen." are you saying that we are no longer fun to listen to? if we are "not fun to listen to" why do we still have listeners. They may have dropped throughout the years, but have you noticed that ALL the fansites have dropped listeners and not just HabboxLive? HabboxLive is still one of the top fansites that habbo has, and I believe that we will stay one of the top. Most of the people in this thread think that it is "so easy" to be a DJ and keep the listeners, so I throw you a challenge. When applications open, why don't some of you apply and if you get in see if you can maintain the listeners that you say is "so easy to do".

That might sound rude, because some of the people that have commented in the threads can or have been able to maintain good listener base. Honestly, I'm not trying to sound rude or i wouldn't bother posting this at all. Jess and Gemma are trying to get the staff that they believe would work best with Habboxlive. Just like in every other department, it doesn't all matter on how good or how active etc... you are. Let's say you are an amazing DJ however very rude and obnoxious towards other users you could be fired. On the other end of the boat, you could be a not bad DJ but have good qualities other then being amazing at the job that you do at Habbox and you could be favored. If you get hired clearly the HabboxLive managers see some potential.

This is all not going to be negative as I do agree on some points that have been said in this thread. Honestly, as I said earlier in the thread, about the skype account. I will be starting that up soon, Jess is finding the password to the account so I will be on it all the time that I am online. I will be putting the account the the twitter and try to get the Djs at advertise it as much as they can. This can be used by Senior DJs and i dno yet but maybe regular DJs to get the listeners involved as said earlier because I think this is a great idea.

Going onto the point that i read about international DJs streaming at 3 or so in the morning UK time. We have 8 international DJs left which 7 of them come from the same timezone. being from them, I understand where they are coming from. 3AM UK time is 10pm our time. I know there shouldn't be streaming there but the rule that we have is if the radio MUST go offline, we are allowed to stream. The thing is, no UK DJ books until about 11AM, in this case, streaming HAS to take place. 11AM UK time is 6AM our time. What child, would talk from 10PM-6AM when they can wake their family that is sleeping? Streaming therefore cannot be completely removed because of our lack of international DJs out of the EST (-4) timezone.


I agree that Intls shouldn't be streaming in the early hours of the morning and should DJ more. The Auto DJ thing doesn't need to be introduced because that's the Intl DJ's jobs. I don't see a problem with Intl DJs doing slots in UK times but if they don't do slots in the timezone they're supposed to be doing them in then there's a problem.

Sam, internationals can't DJ times that they cannot talk. Is streaming should be 100% cut out, the radio would be offline for atleast 3 hours a day. If you look at the timetable, Lindsey (Hazy) Has been DJ'ing in times that UK Djs should be DJ'ing in (Like 8-10am at least). People have to understand that this is very late our time. Would the UK DJs want to stay up untill 5am in the morning DJ'ing a proper show like she is? I stay up some nights till 2 in the morning. I cannot DJ proper shows at these hours because my parents are in bed? Think about it, could UK DJs, DJ at 2 in the morning a proper show? I haven't seen hardly ANY UK Djs book times after 10PM. So we stream at 12AM-5AM our time (As most of the internationals have the same timezone) and we are getting the hit for streaming? Streaming isn't that big of a problem. Tonight, I streamed at 11PM (4AM UK time) my time because I couldn't DJ a proper show and had 30 listeners. This is atleast a third of what we get in peak time! I don't think streaming at this late hours causes that much of a listener drop.


A merge would be a good idea and with 95% of the staff disagreeing? Tell them to grow up. If overall it will make listeners boost up then they should be happy, they will still get to keep their jobs and nothing will change except that everything will be located in one area.

Why I am very strong about the change and that the staff should be happy is that at my work recently everyone's hours have been changed to those that they do not wish to do. Did we have a choice? No, management did it anyway.

A major rehaul of the radio department is needed

Honestly, no. A merge wouldn't be that good of an idea I don't think. I always tune into the radio on HabboxLive. I'm sure lots of people tune into HabboxLive because if you are tuned into the radio then it is much easier to get around with your requests and shoutouts and DJ says. Another reason is because when I log onto the Habbox.com main site, I lag alot because there is just so much stuff going on. If you want to merge HabboxLive into Habbox.com under a tab, might as well merge the forum under a different one.


iya! i've only recentely come back to dj here after a 3 year break, and i do agree somethings need changing. but i don't think it's the right time to think about closing down the radio completely, though i agree a merge with the habbox site would be awesome.

1) the cover issue. number one, i dj for FREE at habbox (not saying we should be paid btw), it's a voluntary service and if i book to do one hour, i expect to do one hour. the problem is, there's a few dj's on the team (not mentioning names) who see a free slot at the beginning of the week, book them all up and then don't turn up. and the dj before is left to cover for 1, sometimes maybe 2 hours. y'know, we do have lives. i currently work full time aswell, and if i'm dj'ing for an hour, that is ALL i want to do. i think certain dj's need to really re-consider whether they wanna actually dj (i know this is gonna sound really mean), but it's not fair for 5 or so dj's to have to sit up all night, or sit around WAITING for you to miss a slot. and that's how it feels sometimes with some people. i know i'm not the only person saying it either, for one i know samology agrees with me, as we were talking about it yesterday.

2.) i'm not a great fan in luring listeners with prizes. yeah, okay listeners have dropped. but quite frankly; i would rather have someone listening to me because they ENJOY the music/dj'ing and not listening cause i'm gonna give them a ******* hc at the end of it. i find it quite insulting ahaha.

3.) i STRIVE to bring diversity into my shows with genre and the maturity of shows. (etc reviews, critiques etc) and i do manage to hold listeners during my shows, so maybe this is a route to go down? instead of the same old stuff.

4) i personally think the DJ should not go all night, because the streaming just looks stupid after a while. i think we have enough UK dj's. we should hire some more american/austrailian ones and people should work on a timetable for their timezone. because sometimes, it's hard for UK dj's to get a primetime 7-8pm slot because an international dj has that, but at 7-8pm their time, the radio is streaming.

and that's everything i have to say really; i enjoy dj'ing. i've worked on a professional FM radio, and i used to much rather enjoy habboxlive because it's fun and it's not all target based. i'm just sick of booking a slot, and knowing i'm more than likely gonna have to do the next.

apart from that, loving you hxl xoxox

I totally agree with this.

For your point on number one, you have to remember, we do NOT get paid for this and we simply do it for FUN. I mean, if you look at the timetable, try to find ONE day where Me, Lindsey, Shannon on Lexii do not have at least ONE slot booked in the early morning. Sure we have to stream some of them because like all other people our parents go to bed, but atleast the radio is not going offline!

On number two, not ALL Djs have enough furni on Habbo to give out prizes every show. I'd rather also have a listener that tunes in because they enjoy us DJing and not for the things they get out of it. When I tune into habboxLive I rarely enter a competition because I just don't see a point. I tune in when I feel like it, not just because i'm staff but because I enjoy the DJs on air. If I don't win a competition i'm not gonna tune out?

On number three, a lot of new perm shows have been introduced with different things in them like variety etc.. Djs have variety, let it be, charts, oldies, slow songs or new songs. DJs that do that seem to keep listeners well as they involve everyone in their shows.

On number four, OK maybe I don't agree on everything.. yes, I must admit, sometime at 7PM my time I do stream. But does that make the listeners that low? If the radio is going offline, would you rather have it offline or have someone streaming? The rule that we follow is if the slot is not booked by about 5 to, and the senior has spammed the senior account etc and still don't find anyone, I don't see a problem with streaming. unless it is in the UK peak hours because there is loads of Djs willing to go on air that just cannot book a slot!

I want to elaborate more on the fact of DJs booking slots then missing them. As Bethie has said, some of the Djs want peak slots however someone books it and doesn't turn up to it? Also a problem that is seen alot, is at about quarter to the hour, the DJ that is supposed to DJ next unbooks his/her slot. This is then a slot open for anyone to get. I see some UK DJs on the timetable alot less then they should be because of this problem.

Anyways this is a long enough post so I will end it now LOL.

[lTraditional]

Well Habbox is more popular then some fansite though, they currently have 21 listeners (but people are still in bed so it doesn't matter) and HFFM just has 2 listeners when i tuned in (probably 1 now i tuned out!) so it isn't that bad. Normally i can't be bothered to tune in unless i see people advirtising which makes me think something special is going to happen so lets tune in!

[Lindsey]

I agree that Intls shouldn't be streaming in the early hours of the morning and should DJ more. The Auto DJ thing doesn't need to be introduced because that's the Intl DJ's jobs. I don't see a problem with Intl DJs doing slots in UK times but if they don't do slots in the timezone they're supposed to be doing them in then there's a problem.


Sam, internationals can't DJ times that they cannot talk. Is streaming should be 100% cut out, the radio would be offline for atleast 3 hours a day. If you look at the timetable, Lindsey (Hazy) Has been DJ'ing in times that UK Djs should be DJ'ing in (Like 8-10am at least). People have to understand that this is very late our time. Would the UK DJs want to stay up untill 5am in the morning DJ'ing a proper show like she is? I stay up some nights till 2 in the morning. I cannot DJ proper shows at these hours because my parents are in bed? Think about it, could UK DJs, DJ at 2 in the morning a proper show? I haven't seen hardly ANY UK Djs book times after 10PM. So we stream at 12AM-5AM our time (As most of the internationals have the same timezone) and we are getting the hit for streaming? Streaming isn't that big of a problem. Tonight, I streamed at 11PM (4AM UK time) my time because I couldn't DJ a proper show and had 30 listeners. This is atleast a third of what we get in peak time! I don't think streaming at this late hours causes that much of a listener drop.

Kso Sam ; I highly think your post is rude. Because have you not been seeing me? I stay up till 8am in the morning, alright? and that is at 12PM your time,.. yeah, alright? I would think that DJs would be up by then and booking, but no one was, if you look at the Timetable on Sunday, it was on a weekend as well, So I really don't think you should be talking Internationals because i'm djing in your time, and I was actually talking on air too... and its 7AM in the morning,.. and like I didn't go to sleep, I was talking from 6AM-7AM .. If you don't see, mostly everyday. I stay up to keep the radio online, in till SamLouise comes on, and takes over., I really don't see you staying up till 8AM in the morning DJing.. , && I'm only staying up late so we will have more listeners in the day, and the radio wont go offline. So, next time you try to say something about the internationals not doing there job, i wont keep the radio online. I'll go offline. And actually get some sleep. You are a great person. I just get annoyed when someone says something, and im doing beyond what i should .

http://i29.tinypic.com/5ajfas.jpg
There is my proof. I am in the EST time, so 12PM is 7AM. x

[Hayleigh]

I agree with all of that except the age. You can have a young confident person or an older person with less enthusiasm and not generally amazing at Dj-ing so i don't think age affects it. Often younger members are more loyal to habbo(x) so this wouldn't affect it.

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Oh and
The Dj's need to work together more Mikey and samlouise do great shows together but often at events party rooms etc, only the dj and room owner show up where as higher number of staff participating will push the rroom into the main slots on habbo causing more people to see what is actually happening at habbox

[sammy]

Kso Sam ; I highly think your post is rude. Because have you not been seeing me? I stay up till 8am in the morning, alright? and that is at 12PM your time,.. yeah, alright? I would think that DJs would be up by then and booking, but no one was, if you look at the Timetable on Sunday, it was on a weekend as well, So I really don't think you should be talking Internationals because i'm djing in your time, and I was actually talking on air too... and its 7AM in the morning,.. and like I didn't go to sleep, I was talking from 6AM-7AM .. If you don't see, mostly everyday. I stay up to keep the radio online, in till SamLouise comes on, and takes over., I really don't see you staying up till 8AM in the morning DJing.. , && I'm only staying up late so we will have more listeners in the day, and the radio wont go offline. So, next time you try to say something about the internationals not doing there job, i wont keep the radio online. I'll go offline. And actually get some sleep. You are a great person. I just get annoyed when someone says something, and im doing beyond what i should .

http://i29.tinypic.com/5ajfas.jpg
There is my proof. I am in the EST time, so 12PM is 7AM. x

I understand that you and Matt do absolutely loads to keep the radio online, I'm not suggesting that the Djs in your timezone (dunno which one it is i get confused) should be doing more, I'm suggesting that we need Intl's from like Australia's timezone to be hired. Apps will be opening soon so hopefully you won't have to be djing at those times & you can sleep. You have to understand that 8am our time is also unbelievably early, and that most of us UK's sleep in until like 10-11am at least.

If apps open and we get some more Intl's from various timezones along with our UK's we can have the timetable full without having to use other people's timezones. I wasn't suggesting that you do not dj in your own timezone at all, but it is frustrating to me when Intl DJs do slots in UK times such as like 7pm, yet don't do slots in their own timezones which is at the end of the day what they were hired for. Once again I'm not hinting that you & Matt do not do your fair share because you both most certainly do. x

[Dinosaurawrr]

Kso Sam ; I highly think your post is rude. Because have you not been seeing me? I stay up till 8am in the morning, alright? and that is at 12PM your time,.. yeah, alright? I would think that DJs would be up by then and booking, but no one was, if you look at the Timetable on Sunday, it was on a weekend as well, So I really don't think you should be talking Internationals because i'm djing in your time, and I was actually talking on air too... and its 7AM in the morning,.. and like I didn't go to sleep, I was talking from 6AM-7AM .. If you don't see, mostly everyday. I stay up to keep the radio online, in till SamLouise comes on, and takes over., I really don't see you staying up till 8AM in the morning DJing.. , && I'm only staying up late so we will have more listeners in the day, and the radio wont go offline. So, next time you try to say something about the internationals not doing there job, i wont keep the radio online. I'll go offline. And actually get some sleep. You are a great person. I just get annoyed when someone says something, and im doing beyond what i should .

http://i29.tinypic.com/5ajfas.jpg
There is my proof. I am in the EST time, so 12PM is 7AM. x

you do an immense amount for Hxl, unfortunatly im a heavy sleeper and dnt wake up most times till gone 12 pm (A)
you shouldent tink anyone is being horrible about you because ik for a fact that you have done 52 hours this month WITHOUT today yesterday and sunday .. just sayin ! LOL you should be senior already.

[scott]

Kso Sam ; I highly think your post is rude. Because have you not been seeing me? I stay up till 8am in the morning, alright? and that is at 12PM your time,.. yeah, alright? I would think that DJs would be up by then and booking, but no one was, if you look at the Timetable on Sunday, it was on a weekend as well, So I really don't think you should be talking Internationals because i'm djing in your time, and I was actually talking on air too... and its 7AM in the morning,.. and like I didn't go to sleep, I was talking from 6AM-7AM .. If you don't see, mostly everyday. I stay up to keep the radio online, in till SamLouise comes on, and takes over., I really don't see you staying up till 8AM in the morning DJing.. , && I'm only staying up late so we will have more listeners in the day, and the radio wont go offline. So, next time you try to say something about the internationals not doing there job, i wont keep the radio online. I'll go offline. And actually get some sleep. You are a great person. I just get annoyed when someone says something, and im doing beyond what i should .

http://i29.tinypic.com/5ajfas.jpg
There is my proof. I am in the EST time, so 12PM is 7AM. x


I don't know if you realise but not all UK people have stopped for summer holiday I don't think have they? How can you expect people to DJ when they're not online. Did he mention American/Canadian DJs or just inernational DJs in general? International DJs in general...you know the Australian DJs which in there time currently is 8PM give or take an hour each way. You don't need to get so defensive over it lol.

[Richie]

I don't know if you realise but not all UK people have stopped for summer holiday I don't think have they? How can you expect people to DJ when they're not online. Did he mention American/Canadian DJs or just inernational DJs in general? International DJs in general...you know the Australian DJs which in there time currently is 8PM give or take an hour each way. You don't need to get so defensive over it lol.

Wheres gemma!?!?


anytime a thread gets made about hxl the staff are always like 'but i do this i do loads' lol

[Circadia]

Why you at each others throats. people are trying to prove a point by saying what they think since this is a feedback thread and alot of you are just putting things which you know will start an argument i thought it was a feedback thread not a filpin' Boxing match to see how many people you can get on your side . a feedback thread is for feedback not arguing and some people have given valid feedback but some are just hear to cause arguments. If you are the one wanting to cause arguments i think you should go elsewhere and let people with valid reason post. This thread is turning arguing not feedback! sort yourselves out guys your meant to be working together to improve the site not kill each other or get picky about what people do and don't do!

[Lindsey]

I understand that you and Matt do absolutely loads to keep the radio online, I'm not suggesting that the Djs in your timezone (dunno which one it is i get confused) should be doing more, I'm suggesting that we need Intl's from like Australia's timezone to be hired. Apps will be opening soon so hopefully you won't have to be djing at those times & you can sleep. You have to understand that 8am our time is also unbelievably early, and that most of us UK's sleep in until like 10-11am at least.

If apps open and we get some more Intl's from various timezones along with our UK's we can have the timetable full without having to use other people's timezones. I wasn't suggesting that you do not dj in your own timezone at all, but it is frustrating to me when Intl DJs do slots in UK times such as like 7pm, yet don't do slots in their own timezones which is at the end of the day what they were hired for. Once again I'm not hinting that you & Matt do not do your fair share because you both most certainly do. x

What I'm getting at is when it gets later like at 10AM-12PM, I'm fine with 8am, I'm still awake, cause its only 3AM. thats not bad for me, (: , && ii doo understand about the aussie DJ's as we need more of them, cause I think we only have 2 maybe 3,.


you do an immense amount for Hxl, unfortunatly im a heavy sleeper and dnt wake up most times till gone 12 pm (A)
you shouldent tink anyone is being horrible about you because ik for a fact that you have done 52 hours this month WITHOUT today yesterday and sunday .. just sayin ! LOL you should be senior already.

Awwwwh, :) Thanksssss Sachaaa ;) x


I don't know if you realise but not all UK people have stopped for summer holiday I don't think have they? How can you expect people to DJ when they're not online. Did he mention American/Canadian DJs or just inernational DJs in general? International DJs in general...you know the Australian DJs which in there time currently is 8PM give or take an hour each way. You don't need to get so defensive over it lol.

Yeah, but mostly everyone is off for Holidays. There is 18 UK DJs including Jess. The time I'm getting at is at about 10AM-12PM. & he mentioned International DJs.. And you don't think I knew he meant them all? , because obv. he did. its just he was criticizing Int DJs saying were not doing our timezone? .. And, When we are going out of our way to get more listeners and stuff, cause I could of easily just went to bed, and put the radio offline, so that the people who were tuned in would probably go to a different fansite.

[Keri?!]

Yeah, but mostly everyone is off for Holidays. There is 18 UK DJs including Jess. The time I'm getting at is at about 10AM-12PM. & he mentioned International DJs.. And you don't think I knew he meant them all? , because obv. he did. its just he was criticizing Int DJs saying were not doing our timezone? .. And, When we are going out of our way to get more listeners and stuff, cause I could of easily just went to bed, and put the radio offline, so that the people who were tuned in would probably go to a different fansite.

You don't have to DJ at those times, that's your choice.
I have never seen anyone spamming msn asking for a DJ at say, 2am. I've been online till 4am for about a week, I've never been asked to DJ.
That is one of the main reasons we do have international DJ's, to DJ at those times where UK DJ's can't. I'm not saying you should only DJ at those times but it does obviously help the radio out a bit.

The international applications are opening tomorrow aswell as the UK, so hopefully we can have more international DJ's.
You guys are fantastic and I'm not moaning because you're excellent DJ's, I'm just saying okay! x]