Sierk

[Richie]

Is he even a part of habbox anymore? His name seems to be plastered all over the site yet he fails to pop on the forum for just 5mins every month. He hasn't even activated his habbo account yet. Is he even aware who runs his site anymore? (other than jin).

He should try pop on the forum more often, Jin used to be active (Fair enough hes busy irl) some things should be changed. Such as a new hxhd room owner. If habbox was my site I'm sure I could take 5 minutes to check out how my site is getting on and reply to concerning threads explaining what I am going to be doing to get habbox popular again.

[Dean]

Saurav made a thread on this :P

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=657681

But yeah, I agree. He should activate his account.

[Tintinnabulate]

Is he even a part of habbox anymore? His name seems to be plastered all over the site yet he fails to pop on the forum for just 5mins every month. He hasn't even activated his habbo account yet. Is he even aware who runs his site anymore? (other than jin).

He should try pop on the forum more often, Jin used to be active (Fair enough hes busy irl) some things should be changed. Such as a new hxhd room owner. If habbox was my site I'm sure I could take 5 minutes to check out how my site is getting on and reply to concerning threads explaining what I am going to be doing to get habbox popular again.

He is like 40 now and is too old for Habbo, hence he made Jin co-owner.

[Dinosaurawrr]

Jin is aware of all of this which is why Mr Garner is incharge.
Jin is a busy person he works his ass off irl he hardly has time to do anything,
yet he cares about this site he pays for this site therefore if something was wrong in his eyes he would change it.
Sierk does come on the forum but on invisible as far as im aware, him and Jin speak so Jin has told me.

[Tintinnabulate]

Jin is aware of all of this which is why Mr Garner is incharge.
Jin is a busy person he works his ass off irl he hardly has time to do anything,
yet he cares about this site he pays for this site therefore if something was wrong in his eyes he would change it.
Sierk does come on the forum but on invisible as far as im aware, him and Jin speak so Jin has told me.

I think sierk came on in March on something and said he hadn't been on since November :P

[Hecktix]

Sierk owns Habbox financially and continues to provide funds for Habbox - which I think is damn good considering he doesn't use the site anymore.

Jin is in contact with him ofc, sierk is more of a silent partner nowadays. The publicity of running Habbox has always been within General Management, sierk was only really active for the first couple of years.

[Dinosaurawrr]

I think sierk came on in March on something and said he hadn't been on since November :P

Still speaks to Jin :D
Jin and him are in contact and he pays so he is there for that. :)

[The Don]

I doubt hes 40, or do you know that for a fact? And also, it's his site he has a perfectly good managment team and hes busy in real life.

[Robbie]

I'm sure he used to pop on using invisible mode when I was a Super Mod. Might be mistaken though.

[Hecktix]

I doubt hes 40, or do you know that for a fact? And also, it's his site he has a perfectly good managment team and hes busy in real life.

He's not 40 but he is older than most forum members and has a career etc

[Caution]

I doubt hes 40, or do you know that for a fact? And also, it's his site he has a perfectly good managment team and hes busy in real life.
Perfectly good? :L
Anyway, I don't really see why it's necessary for him to be here.

[Alkaz]

Perfectly good? :L
Anyway, I don't really see why it's necessary for him to be here.
Love you too xoxo

[hah]

Love you too xoxo

whats that about :S
you cant even code and you're the site manager.. i would call that a problem

o/t i agree no need for him here tbh
not like him or jin do much apart from give money to the site

[Tintinnabulate]

whats that about :S
you cant even code and your the site manager.. i would call that a problem

o/t i agree no need for him here tbh
not like him or jin do much apart from give money to the site

Jin fixs the site.

[hah]

yeah but he takes like a month to do so lol........ like that radio problem... it was so small and took ages

[Caution]

Love you too xoxo
Did you quote the wrong person or are you just being weird?

[Robbie]

Jin fixs the site.

COUGH.

[Tintinnabulate]

COUGH.

Sorry I mean server.

[xxMATTGxx]

COUGH.

I think he meant more server side. It would be wrong to remove Sierk name from everything on the Habbox websites, he does actually own them and most likely still pays towards the costs of keeping us up and running. The same goes for Jin.

[::Art::]

And Robbie does

[Robbie]

And Robbie does

and david and blob and yonder ;)

woo.

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[Dinosaurawrr]

I don't think it's fair that you are all going against Jin now, fair enough do what you want about seirk but Jin is there he trys his damn hardest to get online and fix the things that need fixing, and paying the things that get payed.
He has a life, and yet still makes time for habbox and what he does is a very important part to what habbox is.
Habbox woulden't be here without him.
So stop critsizing him please.

[xxMATTGxx]

-fixes the thread-

[Robbie]

Nobody is criticising Jin. People were just saying that he is not online often during this period due to festivals etc. It's not like we're going GET JIN OUT NOW BOOOO

[hah]

I don't think it's fair that you are all going against Jin now, fair enough do what you want about seirk but Jin is there he trys his damn hardest to get online and fix the things that need fixing, and paying the things that get payed.
He has a life, and yet still makes time for habbox and what he does is a very important part to what habbox is.
Habbox woulden't be here without him.
So stop critsizing him please.


just because jin talks to you and you love him there is no need to lash out. everyone knows that he fixes habbox servers and does stuff for the site

[beth]

just because jin talks to you and you love him there is no need to lash out. everyone knows that he fixes habbox servers and does stuff for the site

kinda what i was thinking.

but yeh i was wondering where sierk was at.

[Nixt]

Lets all get rid of Jin and sierk and close Habbox down because they aren't active yet have literally spent hundreds of pounds to keep Habbox running. Woo :D! :P

Naturally as they are older than the general forum populace, they have much more things to address in real life and therefore cannot be as active. This does not mean that their interest in, or dedication to Habbox has waned. The current General Management team have pretty much all the powers necessary to run the site at the moment. Occasionally problems arise that can only be resolved with by Jin but if they are a real emergency he endeavours to get online (despite being incredibly busy) in order to fix it. Sometimes problems will arise (such as the issue regarding HxHD... which I am sure you will agree isn't pressing) and they will be addressed but this does occasionally take longer than normal but are generally addressed in due time.

[beth]

Lets all get rid of Jin and sierk and close Habbox down because they aren't active yet have literally spent hundreds of pounds to keep Habbox running. Woo :D! :P

Naturally as they are older than the general forum populace, they have much more things to address in real life and therefore cannot be as active. This does not mean that their interest in, or dedication to Habbox has waned. The current General Management team have pretty much all the powers necessary to run the site at the moment. Occasionally problems arise that can only be resolved with by Jin but if they are a real emergency he endeavours to get online (despite being incredibly busy) in order to fix it. Sometimes problems will arise (such as the issue regarding HxHD... which I am sure you will agree isn't pressing) and they will be addressed but this does occasionally take longer than normal but are generally addressed in due time.

dunno what yr actually talking about general management is awful Nixt & xxMATTGxx to go forever. thanks.

[GommeInc]

In theory you could cut down on the sierk and Jin propaganda and make more mentions of the Site Manager or whoever is below the owner. Sierk and Jin are not around enough to be mentioned as much as they are on the front page.

"Welcome to Habbox, a dedicated Habbo UK based fansite run by xxMATTGxx. Habbox is here to keep you up-to-date, with Habbo Hotel news and rare values. We also have lots of great content, including articles, guides, brilliant competitions, our own radio station, HabboxLive and the very popular Habbox Forum. We provide everything you could possibly need from a Habbo fansite, so look around, enjoy the site and check back soon!"

Alternatively you could put:

"Welcome to Habbox, a dedicated Habbo UK based fansite run by xxMATTGxx and owned by Jin and Sierk. Habbox is here to keep you up-to-date, with Habbo Hotel news and rare values. We also have lots of great content, including articles, guides, brilliant competitions, our own radio station, HabboxLive and the very popular Habbox Forum. We provide everything you could possibly need from a Habbo fansite, so look around, enjoy the site and check back soon!"

Though the former is better because people would assume they're popular in the latter, or around alot because they're the "owners", which is a common misconception in any mission statement on a website. Also, if you're going to go on about them, you might as well chuck Mizki in there somewhere as the "site creator" seeing as she is the original problem :P

[Tintinnabulate]

Also if a lot of people search Jin and sierk on habbo and find that they are inactive, they might be put off a bit. Its better to portray the GM as the owner - even though its wrong, its kind of better.

[Dinosaurawrr]

just because jin talks to you and you love him there is no need to lash out. everyone knows that he fixes habbox servers and does stuff for the site


kinda what i was thinking.

but yeh i was wondering where sierk was at.

I am not lashing out, If I was everyone would know about it lol.
Weather or not I talk to Jin and i'm friends with him doesn't mean im gonna sit here and let you all just say that baisically (i'm not saying you are but it kinda feels like it) you want Jin to no longer be apart of habbox in a way that everyone can see, like you just want him to have a small part of him on habbox.

If Jin went Habbox would not be here, Matt Garner does not have the funding to pay for this site therefore Jin does deserve to have a big mention in Habbox.

[Caution]

Also if a lot of people search Jin and sierk on habbo and find that they are inactive, they might be put off a bit. Its better to portray the GM as the owner - even though its wrong, its kind of better.
Do you seriously think that is going to change somebody's view? The users don't care about the ridiculous levels of management and who's in charge of what. It's a Habbo forum for kids for Christ sake.

[GommeInc]

Do you seriously think that is going to change somebody's view? The users don't care about the ridiculous levels of management and who's in charge of what. It's a Habbo forum for kids for Christ sake.

It helps to have the main faces in the command chair when they're being mentioned everywhere - "HxHD - just search Jin!" is splashed around a bit, yet Jin himself doesn't really do anything. It's probably why ClubHabbo is popular because SkaterChu does alot of things himself and as a conlcusion makes a name for himself amongst Habbo (or did in the past when Habbo went on about fansites).

[Superior]

Do you seriously think that is going to change somebody's view? The users don't care about the ridiculous levels of management and who's in charge of what. It's a Habbo forum for kids for Christ sake.

Nah I was gonna join habboxforum but didn't because sierks account was not active on habbo, thankfully I got persuaded into joining it regardless.

[Richie]

I don't think it's fair that you are all going against Jin now, fair enough do what you want about seirk but Jin is there he trys his damn hardest to get online and fix the things that need fixing, and paying the things that get payed.
He has a life, and yet still makes time for habbox and what he does is a very important part to what habbox is.
Habbox woulden't be here without him.
So stop critsizing him please.

wow you make it sound like anyone who uses habbox doesn't have a life lol I never said remove them from the site but it would be nice for them to be around a little more considering it is their site.



I am not lashing out, If I was everyone would know about it lol.
Weather or not I talk to Jin and i'm friends with him doesn't mean im gonna sit here and let you all just say that baisically (i'm not saying you are but it kinda feels like it) you want Jin to no longer be apart of habbox in a way that everyone can see, like you just want him to have a small part of him on habbox.

If Jin went Habbox would not be here, Matt Garner does not have the funding to pay for this site therefore Jin does deserve to have a big mention in Habbox.
I fail to see the part were anyone was suggesting to get rid of jin :S or sierk for that matter.

[beth]

It helps to have the main faces in the command chair when they're being mentioned everywhere - "HxHD - just search Jin!" is splashed around a bit, yet Jin himself doesn't really do anything. It's probably why ClubHabbo is popular because SkaterChu does alot of things himself and as a conlcusion makes a name for himself amongst Habbo (or did in the past when Habbo went on about fansites).

i kinda agree with this, but i don't think jin's name is "splashed" round that much. yeh his name is used like on the radio and stuff to search for hxhd, but i don't really think anyone takes that into consideration. and with matt being general manager; he's around the hxhd and the forum enough for users to be aware of management.

[Dinosaurawrr]

wow you make it sound like anyone who uses habbox doesn't have a life lol I never said remove them from the site but it would be nice for them to be around a little more considering it is their site.



I fail to see the part were anyone was suggesting to get rid of jin :S or sierk for that matter.


I never said it like that what so ever,

I just meant hes really busy irl, but still makes the effort.

and not get rid of them but showing less of them.

[-:Undertaker:-]

In theory you could cut down on the sierk and Jin propaganda and make more mentions of the Site Manager or whoever is below the owner. Sierk and Jin are not around enough to be mentioned as much as they are on the front page.

"Welcome to Habbox, a dedicated Habbo UK based fansite run by xxMATTGxx. Habbox is here to keep you up-to-date, with Habbo Hotel news and rare values. We also have lots of great content, including articles, guides, brilliant competitions, our own radio station, HabboxLive and the very popular Habbox Forum. We provide everything you could possibly need from a Habbo fansite, so look around, enjoy the site and check back soon!"

Alternatively you could put:

"Welcome to Habbox, a dedicated Habbo UK based fansite run by xxMATTGxx and owned by Jin and Sierk. Habbox is here to keep you up-to-date, with Habbo Hotel news and rare values. We also have lots of great content, including articles, guides, brilliant competitions, our own radio station, HabboxLive and the very popular Habbox Forum. We provide everything you could possibly need from a Habbo fansite, so look around, enjoy the site and check back soon!"

Though the former is better because people would assume they're popular in the latter, or around alot because they're the "owners", which is a common misconception in any mission statement on a website. Also, if you're going to go on about them, you might as well chuck Mizki in there somewhere as the "site creator" seeing as she is the original problem :P

I agree with Brent Ryan. I think more needs to be made of the General Management in the same way Skaterchu did so with ClubHabbo The fact is that sierk and Jin are no longer known on the hotel as they were many years ago, and yes while they should stay (they own the site afterall) the General Management need to be up there rather than just staying obsure on the forum.

I know it sounds big headed to suggest making General Management (Garion, Matt) more prominent but I think personalities really help sites continue running and are what sets each site differing from the next.

[Sharon]

I never said it like that what so ever,

I just meant hes really busy irl, but still makes the effort.

and not get rid of them but showing less of them.

I'm getting the impression your trying to big yourself up because you speak to Jin i could be wrong

I'm not sure if its just me :L

He should be online more though - he barely interacts.

[Dinosaurawrr]

I'm getting the impression your trying to big yourself up because you speak to Jin i could be wrong

I'm not sure if its just me :L

He should be online more though - he barely interacts.



Nono shaz im not honest.
Me speaking to him has nothing to do with my opinion
and I don't use Jin with anything to do with habbox.
However I do care alot about him..
So yeah :)

And again I dont think he should be made less known around habbox he puts alot of effort in when he can. It's his site.

[Catzsy]

I do think that the GM and AGMs should be provided with good quality furniture so they can make an impact on Habbo - unfortunately you are your furni on there most of the time. I do think that HXHD should be given over to Roxy even if just for the summer as Jin is very busy during this time so that the themes can be altered. The staff should also get the RVR room popuar. I think if the GM and Agms also went there and did quite a few joint events/Q&A on Habbo together it would higher their profiles. As far as the rest of it is concerned I don't really see it as any of my business. It is their site - fullstop.

[Callum.]

I'm getting the impression your trying to big yourself up because you speak to Jin i could be wrong

I'm not sure if its just me :L

He should be online more though - he barely interacts.

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[-:Undertaker:-]

I do think that the GM and AGMs should be provided with good quality furniture so they can make an impact on Habbo - unfortunately you are your furni on there most of the time. I do think that HXHD should be given over to Roxy even if just for the summer as Jin is very busy during this time so that the themes can be altered. The staff should also get the RVR room popuar. I think if the GM and Agms also went there and did quite a few joint events/Q&A on Habbo together it would higher their profiles. As far as the rest of it is concerned I don't really see it as any of my business. It is their site - fullstop.

I am drawing up plans for changes in the department (rare values) which will hopefully make the room workable and the department workable, because with the introduction of the marketpalce and the collapse of the Club sofa - if the department disappeared tommorow it would not greatly affect much at all. The sad truth is that and its time it faced it, we need to move from reporting to advice and hopefully that will be achieved over the summer with consent from senior management.

I think all problems though stem back to the site design, let's face it - Habbox compared to the likes of Habborator, Great La + various others is lagging behind in years.

[Dinosaurawrr]

I Do not say about speaking to Jin. i never big myself up and tbh even if I did speak to Jin its nothing 2 do with anyone else.
Even if he wasnt part of habbox I would still try to speak to him
im not the only person who does.
i do not ask him for anything to do with habbox
i dont mention that i do i only have because you guys are bringing it up.
he is my friend i dont care if he owns habbox
i spoke to him even before tht fgs.
i am not better than anyone here infact most of you are better than me.
this convo is about sierk not me.
ok

[hah]

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[GommeInc]

I agree with Brent Ryan. I think more needs to be made of the General Management in the same way Skaterchu did so with ClubHabbo The fact is that sierk and Jin are no longer known on the hotel as they were many years ago, and yes while they should stay (they own the site afterall) the General Management need to be up there rather than just staying obsure on the forum.

I know it sounds big headed to suggest making General Management (Garion, Matt) more prominent but I think personalities really help sites continue running and are what sets each site differing from the next.
Indeed. Seeing as the target audience of Habbox is Habbo (it's a fansite afterall) and Habbo is a community/MMROPG or whatever the true name of it is, other communities with Habbo make themselves known and the people inside those smaller-communities also make themselves known. It happened alot in the past with HabboForum, HabboxForum, ClubHabbo and so forth. Although no-one really pays much attention, when they become long-term members they start noticing it and find it strange that people who do most of the tasks get left in the quiet. Seacat, JackHb and others were well known in the past, but weren't the owners, yet now the General Management are shadowed by the owners, when the owners only play with the purse strings and anything in the background, when the people in the foreground are rarely taken into consideration or given much publicity.

[Dinosaurawrr]

fgs i was trying to make u lot realise tht it dont matter
my opinion is based on waht i see

[Catzsy]

I am drawing up plans for changes in the department (rare values) which will hopefully make the room workable and the department workable, because with the introduction of the marketpalce and the collapse of the Club sofa - if the department disappeared tommorow it would not greatly affect much at all. The sad truth is that and its time it faced it, we need to move from reporting to advice and hopefully that will be achieved over the summer with consent from senior management.



I think all problems though stem back to the site design, let's face it - Habbox compared to the likes of Habborator, Great La + various others is lagging behind in years.
Dan, I meant the whole of the habbox staff - I wasn't criticising RVR or their staff. I appreciate you are having a tough time with that department at the moment.




I Do not say about speaking to Jin. i never big myself up and tbh even if I did speak to Jin its nothing 2 do with anyone else.
Even if he wasnt part of habbox I would still try to speak to him
im not the only person who does.
i do not ask him for anything to do with habbox
i dont mention that i do i only have because you guys are bringing it up.
he is my friend i dont care if he owns habbox
i spoke to him even before tht fgs.
i am not better than anyone here infact most of you are better than me.
this convo is about sierk not me.
ok

Sacha, I wouldn't even bother. It is just posting to cause trouble. Whether or not you are a friend of Jin's is your business and really has nothing to do with the topic so I wouldn't even rise to it.

[hah]

the habbo gapu seems pretty popular around habbo and he hasnt used it in 2 years... he also uses the forum
maybe he should be gm lol

j/s

[Pyroka]

Jins a good bloke, sierk isnt prominent for whatever reason and well... Yeah, i think its just Jin needs a spare set of hands for certain tasks that technically able people could do.

I mean hell, if Jin asked me tommorow, "do you want to help maintain, secure & repair the site when im busy?" i would jump to the chance. Would enjoy it too seeing as servers (networks) & web dev are what im studying at uni.

Not hinting or anything... Im not trusted enough anyway lol, but yeah Matt & the AGMs should get more big-ups, even just two of them who are really active is good enough :]

[Robbie]

I am drawing up plans for changes in the department (rare values) which will hopefully make the room workable and the department workable, because with the introduction of the marketpalce and the collapse of the Club sofa - if the department disappeared tommorow it would not greatly affect much at all. The sad truth is that and its time it faced it, we need to move from reporting to advice and hopefully that will be achieved over the summer with consent from senior management.

I think all problems though stem back to the site design, let's face it - Habbox compared to the likes of Habborator, Great La + various others is lagging behind in years.

Yep. A major thing that keeps popping up these threads time and time again is the design. It should be the number one priority at the moment. However with Jin being away, no spec is being made. Sadly, I'd guess that a new design won't be coming until around late Autumn.

EDIT: @Ryan - That's what Yonder is supposed to do, but he's never online either.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Dan, I meant the whole of the habbox staff - I wasn't criticising RVR or their staff. I appreciate you are having a tough time with that department at the moment.

Sacha, I wouldn't even bother. It is just posting to cause trouble. Whether or not you are a friend on Jin's is your business and really has nothing to do with the topic so I wouldn't even rise to it.

No nonono i'm not defending it, i'm in agreement with you fully. I just thought i'd post what we have planned to try and make a change, but i'm pointing out elsewhere - most of this problem (the whole site has it at the moment in my eyes) relates back to the site design and the Habbox 'persona' which is dead.

[hah]

can alkaz not code
he is the site manager lol?
he should be doing this and not waiting on jin..

[Nixt]

can alkaz not code
he is the site manager lol?
he should be doing this and not waiting on jin..

The spec for v6 has nothing to do with the coding ability of the Content AGM - it's all to do with what Jin wants as the owner.

[Catzsy]

No nonono i'm not defending it, i'm in agreement with you fully. I just thought i'd post what we have planned to try and make a change, but i'm pointing out elsewhere - most of this problem (the whole site has it at the moment in my eyes) relates back to the site design and the Habbox 'persona' which is dead.

Okay I see what you were saying now but being pretty techless I have to leave any analysis to those who know what they are talking about. :D

[Callum.]

i'm going to play habbo and become habbox staff. no lies. this will sort all problems.

no point raising this, as nothing will change.

[Robbie]

I think Jin should have said to someone "OK, I'm going to be away - take charge of V6 while I am away". Maybe he has, I don't know - but I've not heard as such.

[Sharon]

I think Jin should have said to someone "OK, I'm going to be away - take charge of V6 while I am away". Maybe he has, I don't know - but I've not heard as such.

This. Things always take longer due to him being away, he needs to put someone else in charge of it if he can't.

[Tintinnabulate]

Do you seriously think that is going to change somebody's view? The users don't care about the ridiculous levels of management and who's in charge of what. It's a Habbo forum for kids for Christ sake.

Er yes. :rolleyes: People search the name sierk. They see he is active and get a bad impression.



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I'm getting the impression your trying to big yourself up because you speak to Jin

This.

can alkaz not code
he is the site manager lol?
he should be doing this and not waiting on jin..

He does not need to code. He is there to manage and I am guessing design. Jin says what he wants and its made.

I think Jin should have said to someone "OK, I'm going to be away - take charge of V6 while I am away". Maybe he has, I don't know - but I've not heard as such.

This.



He does not need to code. He is there to manage and I am guessing design. Jin says what he wants and its made.



Its quite a shame really. At the very beginning of this year, Jin hadposted a huge thread stating what will be coming this year. One of them was a new Habbox design which users can customise. They should have begun working on it then with Jin stating what he wants in the design. I dont think its even been decided if they will carry on with Joomla or switch to vB Portal. Unfortunately from what I hear, Jin has not stated what he wants in the designs, so designers are left clueless.

As its the whole design of the site, I don't think Jin wanted to leave that to the GM.

I may be wrong but thats the impression I get. Unfortunately Jin being very busy is hurting Habbox and its clearly noticeable.

[xxMATTGxx]

Er yes. :rolleyes: People search the name sierk. They see he is active and get a bad impression.



This. Oh man she removed it.

[QUOTE=ShazLouise;6636401]I'm getting the impression your trying to big yourself up because you speak to Jin[QUOTE]

This.



He does not need to code. He is there to manage and I am guessing design. Jin says what he wants and its made.



Its quite a shame really. At the very beginning of this year, Jin hadposted a huge thread stating what will be coming this year. One of them was a new Habbox design which users can customise. They should have begun working on it then with Jin stating what he wants in the design. I dont think its even been decided if they will carry on with Joomla or switch to vB Portal. Unfortunately from what I hear, Jin has not stated what he wants in the designs, so designers are left clueless.

As its the whole design of the site, I don't think Jin wanted to leave that to the GM.

I may be wrong but thats the impression I get. Unfortunately Jin being very busy is hurting Habbox and its clearly noticeable.

I understand what you are saying. Jin is a busy man and he has also said he wants to take his time over the v6 specification for whatever reason. I believe it's because he wants everything perfect and wants to make sure its an advancement for Habbox. We are hoping we will get that soon but I can't put my hands up and say any dates at this moment in time. :(

[nvrspk4]

I have long said (sorry to pull the old card) that sierk is the most invaluable asset Habbox has, just because of who he is. He is the manager, the very top of the pyramid. He doesn't have anyone to answer to. A lot of problems many fansites faced was that their owners were often thought of as corrupt, were involved in some webcam/hacking/password scandal etc. As the biggest fansite, Habbox had to seem responsible, and everyone was responsible to someone else, up to sierk.

Sierk was an impeccable public figure and really nobody has ever had a major problem with sierk that would impeach his reputation. For that reason sierk is a large part of the reason Habbox has been as successful as it is, there is at least some perception that everyone has to answer to someone, and the one guy that does is widely respected to be a responsible person.

Also he continues to assume the legal and financial tasks along with Jin, so there is no need for him to be replaced etc. though I understand that many of the posters don't intend for him to be replaced, merely downplayed.

Here's the problem with that. General Management does change from time to time. We want users to be able to connect to names for a long period of time. If the main names on the page change every now and then, it seems like Habbox is in constant upheaval. If the ownership team remains and the staff under them change, there is at least some sense of continuity. So I think things are just fine in those senses.

EDIT: I apologize, I realize that some of this was written as if I was still a part of management...I haven't yet gotten the feel for writing feedback replies as a member, I'll get the hang of it :P But know that if I sounded condescending, I didn't mean it!

[GommeInc]

I have long said (sorry to pull the old card) that sierk is the most invaluable asset Habbox has, just because of who he is. He is the manager, the very top of the pyramid. He doesn't have anyone to answer to. A lot of problems many fansites faced was that their owners were often thought of as corrupt, were involved in some webcam/hacking/password scandal etc. As the biggest fansite, Habbox had to seem responsible, and everyone was responsible to someone else, up to sierk.
Is that really an asset, someone who's put on the face but does very little? (obviously not his problem, he's got a life :P) In comparison to other fansites, yes he wasn't corrupt (as such), but the other fansites owners were around alot because that was their duty, sierk had others around him like jrh2002 and Mizki so there wasn't as much of a burden in a sense, though Habbox was and is alot bigger than other fansites.

The rest isn't really worth commenting on :P We're discussing cutting down on his name everywhere as it's misleading and downgrades the usefulness of General Management, not removing him altogether as owner. Also, he really should re-activate his Habbo Account, it kinda goes against a few things you've said about continuity, people will no doubt go searching for this sierk fellow and not find any information on him. It's interesting he hasn't pawned the account off onto a close friend to deal with IF and WHEN it needs touching.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I have long said (sorry to pull the old card) that sierk is the most invaluable asset Habbox has, just because of who he is. He is the manager, the very top of the pyramid. He doesn't have anyone to answer to. A lot of problems many fansites faced was that their owners were often thought of as corrupt, were involved in some webcam/hacking/password scandal etc. As the biggest fansite, Habbox had to seem responsible, and everyone was responsible to someone else, up to sierk.

Sierk was an impeccable public figure and really nobody has ever had a major problem with sierk that would impeach his reputation. For that reason sierk is a large part of the reason Habbox has been as successful as it is, there is at least some perception that everyone has to answer to someone, and the one guy that does is widely respected to be a responsible person.

Also he continues to assume the legal and financial tasks along with Jin, so there is no need for him to be replaced etc. though I understand that many of the posters don't intend for him to be replaced, merely downplayed.

Here's the problem with that. General Management does change from time to time. We want users to be able to connect to names for a long period of time. If the main names on the page change every now and then, it seems like Habbox is in constant upheaval. If the ownership team remains and the staff under them change, there is at least some sense of continuity. So I think things are just fine in those senses.

EDIT: I apologize, I realize that some of this was written as if I was still a part of management...I haven't yet gotten the feel for writing feedback replies as a member, I'll get the hang of it :P But know that if I sounded condescending, I didn't mean it!

That is what we are getting at really, he was famous and he was well-known - not anymore on the new hotel he isn't and even on the UK hotel, with newer generations they do not have a clue who he is apart from only if they visit Habbox they'll see his name which i'd doubt they care to remember.

[GoldenMerc]

Sierk is getting on now, I think Jin and Sierk are more of silent owners and the management (GM) run this shank

[nvrspk4]

Is that really an asset, someone who's put on the face but does very little? (obviously not his problem, he's got a life :P) In comparison to other fansites, yes he wasn't corrupt (as such), but the other fansites owners were around alot because that was their duty, sierk had others around him like jrh2002 and Mizki so there wasn't as much of a burden in a sense, though Habbox was and is alot bigger than other fansites.

Yes, as I mentioned :P It provides continuity and some sense of fairness/transparency. In my opinion anyway.


The rest isn't really worth commenting on :P We're discussing cutting down on his name everywhere as it's misleading and downgrades the usefulness of General Management, not removing him altogether as owner. Also, he really should re-activate his Habbo Account, it kinda goes against a few things you've said about continuity, people will no doubt go searching for this sierk fellow and not find any information on him. It's interesting he hasn't pawned the account off onto a close friend to deal with IF and WHEN it needs touching.

He should reactivate his Habbo account yes. But I still believe having him and Jin on there is useful for keeping the floor under Habbox users.


That is what we are getting at really, he was famous and he was well-known - not anymore on the new hotel he isn't and even on the UK hotel, with newer generations they do not have a clue who he is apart from only if they visit Habbox they'll see his name which i'd doubt they care to remember.

No, my point is that the reason he's important is he's a levelheaded figure at the point that there are no superiors, not that he's an ex-famous Habbo. He hasn't really been superfamous for years now.

[GoldenMerc]

Yes, as I mentioned :P It provides continuity and some sense of fairness/transparency. In my opinion anyway.



He should reactivate his Habbo account yes. But I still believe having him and Jin on there is useful for keeping the floor under Habbox users.



No, my point is that the reason he's important is he's a levelheaded figure at the point that there are no superiors, not that he's an ex-famous Habbo. He hasn't really been superfamous for years now.
Fine dont quote me gay!

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[StripedTiger]

It's a business. Sometimes business owners just have business managers to run it, they dont need to do it themselves.
But really.. why does sierk need to activate his habbo account?
I dont think it matters that sierk doesnt go on habbo, as long as he knows his business is under good and dedicated management, then who cares really?

[Blinger$]

It's a business. Sometimes business owners just have business managers to run it, they dont need to do it themselves.
But really.. why does sierk need to activate his habbo account?
I dont think it matters that sierk doesnt go on habbo, as long as he knows his business is under good and dedicated management, then who cares really?
there is no reason, it's just to look good..

I'm all for sierk activating his account, he doesn't have to do anything else!

[beth]

gonna be honest, if yr sitting searching sierk on habbo you need better things to do. x

[Alkaz]

gonna be honest, if yr sitting searching sierk on habbo you need better things to do. x
What do you mean? :S

[Richie]

**** can someone delete this thread b4 jin sees it if he sees it he'll hate me more and more and wont go dinner with me o god bump old threads wuick has jin and sierk ever met irl?

[Tintinnabulate]

I understand what you are saying. Jin is a busy man and he has also said he wants to take his time over the v6 specification for whatever reason. I believe it's because he wants everything perfect and wants to make sure its an advancement for Habbox. We are hoping we will get that soon but I can't put my hands up and say any dates at this moment in time. :(

Yeah the site is a huge part of Habbox and he probably doesn't want to keep editing the design after its been made for quite a while.

[Nixt]

Yeah the site is a huge part of Habbox and he probably doesn't want to keep editing the design after its been made for quite a while.

That's exactly it. Habbox.com itself is obviously very important to us as a whole and Jin wants some major changes not only to site design in general but to the back end and the processes involved in managing the website out of the public eye. This requires quite a demanding and clear specification that naturally takes some time especially due to Jin's busy schedule.

Nevertheless we are beginning to discuss mock up designs as I think I mentioned earlier in the thread so don't think that we're just sitting around waiting for Jin to give us the spec. We are trying to make sure we are as prepared as possible to begin work as soon as we can really get stuck into version six development.

[xxMATTGxx]

Yeah the site is a huge part of Habbox and he probably doesn't want to keep editing the design after its been made for quite a while.

He also wants it so we don't always need Site Coders and anyone else to keep adding things/changing certain aspects of the website also. If that makes sense? So he is obviously going to take his while over it making sure every detail is perfect. I'm sure we would all love to have some sort of specification now but we trust Jin to make a good judgement on that.