Speed camera cuts backed by Oxfordshire council

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-10780574

lucky.

Anyway it depends how much money their speed cameras bring. There are some GASTO's which bring in millions per year.

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This is fantastic news, its been proven cameras have nothing to do with safety and are just used by the councils to rinse the motorist dry whilst wasting money on a range of useless and futile schemes. I would take all of them down tommorow.

[MrPinkPanther]

Where I live already has none.

[Tintinnabulate]

This is fantastic news, its been proven cameras have nothing to do with safety and are just used by the councils to rinse the motorist dry whilst wasting money on a range of useless and futile schemes. I would take all of them down tommorow.

Do you drive?

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Do you drive?

No, do not see the point in driving at my age - would cost a bomb in insurance. The most stupid site I did though see once was nearby my house, 30 police officers were standing around one of those mobile speed cameras (you know attached to the back of the van) trying to catch motorists - what a waste of police time and money when they could be catching real criminals. The fact they are not taking down the cameras which make the most I think just shows they are another stealth tax with no real purpose.

Good move my this council, let's hope councils across the country follow suit - won't hold my breath though.

[MrPinkPanther]

Do you drive?
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Oh no i'd have no problem with driving on a Czech motorway that the British people have paid for. Liberal Democrats don't drive do they? don't want to go hurting the enviroment like that because before we know it London will be underwater. ;)

[Tintinnabulate]

Well they fine people for speeding and therefore breaking the law? I thought you hated those who broke the law? Yes people know where most speed cameras are and therefore just slow down near it but if you are in a new place without a sat nav warning you, you would follow the speed limit most of the time.

Also in places such as Manchester, its harder to just say "I know where the cameras are and therefore I can speed and just slow down near them" as there are so many mobile cameras here now (with maximum two policemen) everywhere, its hard to speed sometimes.

For example, when I drive to work, they hide behind a building and its impossible to see the camera and every time they are there, they caught lots of people. I have noticed not many people speed on that road now.
Secondly, when I used to drive to college, there used to be a hidden camera round the bend, so people don't speed there now either.

Once people get caught, a lot of them are likely to speed less often.

However, I think it would be better to have road bumps in places.

[MrPinkPanther]

Liberal Democrats don't drive do they? don't want to go hurting the enviroment like that because before we know it London will be underwater. ;)
Well I actually use Public transport because of the lesser environmental impact and it is a more healthy thing to do.

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Well they fine people for speeding and therefore breaking the law? I thought you hated those who broke the law? Yes people know where most speed cameras are and therefore just slow down near it but if you are in a new place without a sat nav warning you, you would follow the speed limit most of the time.

Also in places such as Manchester, its harder to just say "I know where the cameras are and therefore I can speed and just slow down near them" as there are so many mobile cameras here now (with maximum two policemen) everywhere, its hard to speed sometimes.

For example, when I drive to work, they hide behind a building and its impossible to see the camera and every time they are there, they caught lots of people. I have noticed not many people speed on that road now.
Secondly, when I used to drive to college, there used to be a hidden camera round the bend, so people don't speed there now either.

Once people get caught, a lot of them are likely to speed less often.

However, I think it would be better to have road bumps in places.

Well the statistics do not show that they have an effect at all because as I am sure we all know, people slow down near the camera (where the lines on the road start) and speed up again after passing the camera. Some statistics in here (cannot find source, sure there will be more around net) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1297887/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-End-war-motorists-Youll-lucky.html

The fact they are not scrapping the ones which make the most money surely tells you that the entire point of them is money, not safety as they preach on about.


Well I actually use Public transport because of the lesser environmental impact and it is a more healthy thing to do.

With a nice flask of nettle tea whilst reading Polly Toynbee I presume?

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Shouldn't be the worst thing. Where I live, there are none, and in my nearest city, I don't recall ever seeing TOO many of them.

[MrPinkPanther]

With a nice flask of nettle tea whilst reading Polly Toynbee I presume?

Browsing the Internet on my iPhone actually....don't worry your pretty little head, Apple have gone green.

Swindon banned speed cameras a few years ago. We've had no crash rise since then.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/england/8636654.stm

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Swindon haven't have any for ages :)

[Frodo13.]

Speed cameras are useless. All you have to do is slow down when you approach one, speed again once you've passed. What our roads do need to tackle speeding is a increased police presence.

[RedStratocas]

hmm i guess i cant really weigh in too much on this one since i don't know much of the u.k. roads past my bit of experience with them last year. however i know here in the u.s., there are several states which have installed cameras on highways in years past and have touted pretty significant drops in overall car-crash fatalities, from 10 to 20% sometimes even more. i think its pretty worth it, and even though i dont really understand the logic behind the mentality (i thought most drivers had the mentality that they'll never crash), it seems to work. some people argue it's an invasion of privacy but i dont see how that is, since a highway is a very public place, and the cameras can't see anything more than what a police officer or anyone else in the area can see.

although i believe these states are ones with long, wide-open highways, and are thus prone to people thinking they can just breeze through them at 110mph. so again, its probably just a matter of the type of road.

[Moh]

They need to place speed cameras in much better places. We have one on a slip road (that is 40mph) to a motorway (that is 70mph). The whole point of a slip road (well, an entrance) is to gain speed.

It's funny how they don't put them on red roads where there are a lot of accidents isn't it?

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Well the statistics do not show that they have an effect at all because as I am sure we all know, people slow down near the camera (where the lines on the road start) and speed up again after passing the camera. Some statistics in here (cannot find source, sure there will be more around net) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1297887/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-End-war-motorists-Youll-lucky.html

The fact they are not scrapping the ones which make the most money surely tells you that the entire point of them is money, not safety as they preach on about.



With a nice flask of nettle tea whilst reading Polly Toynbee I presume?

I thought you were all for punishing law breakers? They break the law, get caught, pay the fine, increase their funds.

[MrPinkPanther]

I thought you were all for punishing law breakers? They break the law, get caught, pay the fine, increase their funds.

Oh no. You've got him all wrong. He's all for complaining about everything that happens in this country just like the rest of UKIP.

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I thought you were all for punishing law breakers? They break the law, get caught, pay the fine, increase their funds.

There are important laws, less important laws and laws that do not matter at all - i'd much rather the police go after real criminals such as the ones who roam around on sink estates than go after the easy target which is the motorist.


Oh no. You've got him all wrong. He's all for complaining about everything that happens in this country just like the rest of UKIP.

I have always been against cameras and so are UKIP, the evidence show cameras have nothing to do with safety.

What is so hard to understand about that?

Although hey if we are to get into party politics which you seem determined to do;

Liberal Democrats support mass immigration, UKIP do not.
Liberal Democrats support a federal Europe, UKIP do not.
Liberal Democrats advocate weak crime laws, UKIP do not.
Liberal Democrats want higher taxes thus hurting the economy, UKIP do not.
Liberal Democrats wish to scrap our vital nuclear defence system, UKIP do not.

So faced against those policies which the main parties often strive towards, is it any wonder that we moan and is it any reason that most people don't even bother to vote at all? no, I didn't think so.

[alexxxxx]

there should be some in areas where they are needed. but you shouldnt break the limit anyway, it's 30 for a reason. :)