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Richie
31-07-2010, 05:23 PM
Before anyone starts **** no I didn't make this just because jamesOYES came back as super staff its happened a few times now.

Staff who resign from habbox forfeit there job, its hardly fair if other people are waiting in line doing a good job then a ex super staff member decides 'ah il just come back' I'm not sure about other departments but with habboxlive if you leave you forfeit your position (unless your normal staff of course).


I don't think staff who decide to leave habbox should be entitled to get that position back, for example thats like hoteluser leaving tomorrow then deciding to come back in a weeks time, it just seems very unprofessional.

If you get a job in tescos as a manager then decide to leave and come back a few weeks later, the position won't be available for that person no longer, yeah this is real life but I thought habbox wanted to be 'professional'.

This only ever seems to happen with the helpdesk all other departments as far as I know won't let that ex staff member have their position back, if someone is going to resign they have decided to leave, you can't just take your position back whenever you feel like it its just stupid.


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Josh
31-07-2010, 05:28 PM
I have to agree, if you are going to come back, you forfeit the position you once held. However, in the case of James... he should be allowed. To be fair, I think he kind of quit because he didn't get manager. I don't care if he did, I thought he deserved it more too and so did a lot of people, so he resigned in anger. (I am not starting the whole James deserved it more again.)

PEOPLE WHO QUIT because they are sick of it, shouldn't come back as superstaff.

scottish
31-07-2010, 05:31 PM
People who quit shouldnt get their job back regardless

If you quit you should have to do the same as everyone else and re-apply etc

Because you used to be staff shouldn't give you a priviledge over other people in the room trying to get recommended or after applying etc

Inseriousity.
31-07-2010, 05:32 PM
It's the same with comps. If you leave and want to return, you actually have to apply again (orangeesh applied, for example, even though he was assistant manager) although admittedly you don't have to do a trial. While not every department goes to that extreme and that's fine by me, it does weed out those who say they want to come back and those who actually mean it. I've also said before, much to the annoyance of some people, that if you return, you return with a fresh slate.

However, that being said, we don't really know the circumstances that led to James' return. He may have been offered his position back by the manager rather than the staff asking to return. If this was the case, it's hard to persuade someone to come back as normal staff. It's not fair but it happens, it's happened a few times in the events department as well.

scottish
31-07-2010, 05:34 PM
If a member leaves for 3 days then decides to come back it's hardly showing dedication to the department.... lol

Molly.22
31-07-2010, 05:36 PM
I have to agree, if you are going to come back, you forfeit the position you once held. However, in the case of James... he should be allowed. To be fair, I think he kind of quit because he didn't get manager. I don't care if he did, I thought he deserved it more too and so did a lot of people, so he resigned in anger. (I am not starting the whole James deserved it more again.)

PEOPLE WHO QUIT because they are sick of it, shouldn't come back as superstaff.

So you're saying that nobody should get their old position back but because it is James he can, that doesn't make much sense. In my opinion I don't think you should be allowed to get your old position back if you return. Other departments do this too so you can't just say it's HxHD.

Nicola
31-07-2010, 05:36 PM
If you quit I believe that you should wait at least a month before you should be allowed back like you have to if you get fired.

If you get fired then you should have to re-apply, but if you quit then you shouldn't have to re-apply and you can come back as normal staff.

scottish
31-07-2010, 05:40 PM
If you quit you're giving you're job up

You become like every other member, when you want you're job back, you should be like every other member and have to do as they do, reapply, trial, etc

Not just act pally with the manager and ask for your job back

Sarah
31-07-2010, 05:42 PM
It's the same with comps. If you leave and want to return, you actually have to apply again (orangeesh applied, for example, even though he was assistant manager) although admittedly you don't have to do a trial. While not every department goes to that extreme and that's fine by me, it does weed out those who say they want to come back and those who actually mean it. I've also said before, much to the annoyance of some people, that if you return, you return with a fresh slate.

However, that being said, we don't really know the circumstances that led to James' return. He may have been offered his position back by the manager rather than the staff asking to return. If this was the case, it's hard to persuade someone to come back as normal staff. It's not fair but it happens, it's happened a few times in the events department as well.

I would agree with you on this, We don't know the circumstances James left the department or the reason. Only David (and shar?) know the reasons and it may of be solved so that's why he has been asked to return (or decided).



I have to agree, if you are going to come back, you forfeit the position you once held. However, in the case of James... he should be allowed. To be fair, I think he kind of quit because he didn't get manager. I don't care if he did, I thought he deserved it more too and so did a lot of people, so he resigned in anger. (I am not starting the whole James deserved it more again.)

PEOPLE WHO QUIT because they are sick of it, shouldn't come back as superstaff.

You can't pick and choose what you like - No one should get priority over anyone else. If you like the rule then it should apply to everyone not specific people.


If you quit I believe that you should wait at least a month before you should be allowed back like you have to if you get fired.

If you get fired then you should have to re-apply, but if you quit then you shouldn't have to re-apply and you can come back as normal staff.

I would agree with you on this, If they want to come back they should have to wait for at least a long period of time (maybe a month, maybe shorter). With your last bit definitely agree, other people may have been working hard to get to the "next level" (normal staff > super staff) and then find out that the person has changed their mind and wants to come back.

Dean
31-07-2010, 05:44 PM
If you quit I believe that you should wait at least a month before you should be allowed back like you have to if you get fired.

If you get fired then you should have to re-apply, but if you quit then you shouldn't have to re-apply and you can come back as normal staff.

True.

You shouldn't have to re-apply, just have a cool off period.

HotelUser
31-07-2010, 05:46 PM
I can understand everyone's concern, although I think some folks may be neglecting that the decisions we make as to who is allowed to return under which position is dependent on the reasons that staffmember initially resigned, and what's in the best interest for the department. In this case allowing the staffmember in question to return as a super staff was within the best interests of the future of this department.




Before anyone starts **** no I didn't make this just because jamesOYES came back as super staff its happened a few times now.

Staff who resign from habbox forfeit there job, its hardly fair if other people are waiting in line doing a good job then a ex super staff member decides 'ah il just come back' I'm not sure about other departments but with habboxlive if you leave you forfeit your position (unless your normal staff of course).


I don't think staff who decide to leave habbox should be entitled to get that position back, for example thats like hoteluser leaving tomorrow then deciding to come back in a weeks time, it just seems very unprofessional.

If you get a job in tescos as a manager then decide to leave and come back a few weeks later, the position won't be available for that person no longer, yeah this is real life but I thought habbox wanted to be 'professional'.

This only ever seems to happen with the helpdesk all other departments as far as I know won't let that ex staff member have their position back, if someone is going to resign they have decided to leave, you can't just take your position back whenever you feel like it its just stupid.


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I think it's slightly different than if I were to resign and then ask for my job back, actually :P

Tintinnabulate
31-07-2010, 05:48 PM
Garion returned as Assistant Forum Manager after a long time - I don't see people complaining there :S.

Some resign and realise they miss it and want it back, so they should get a 7 days window where they can return, after that, they should re-apply.

xxMATTGxx
31-07-2010, 05:49 PM
Garion returned as Assistant Forum Manager after a long time - I don't see people complaining there :S.

That's what I was thinking to be honest. It isn't like James got fired or anything, it was a matter of hours he decided to return back at HxHD. It is not a big deal at all, although we won't let people to keep resigning and returning very so quickly. Just takes the mick if it keeps happening. :P

HotelUser
31-07-2010, 05:52 PM
That's what I was thinking to be honest. It isn't like James got fired or anything, it was a matter of hours he decided to return back at HxHD. It is not a big deal at all, although we won't let people to keep resigning and returning very so quickly. Just takes the mick if it keeps happening. :P

Kudos Matt.

If it makes anyone feel better previously today a PM was sent to all of our staffmembers discussing resigning and then expressing interest upon returning, which elaborated into discussing how it has been happening too much lately :)

immense
31-07-2010, 06:09 PM
ok well i resigned as agm community, ill pm matt now

Dean
31-07-2010, 06:10 PM
Garion returned as Assistant Forum Manager after a long time - I don't see people complaining there :S.

Some resign and realise they miss it and want it back, so they should get a 7 days window where they can return, after that, they should re-apply.

You should be given 7 days to decide whether or not your resignation was the wise thing to do, if not, you can return back to your role. If you did want to resign and after the 7 days period you did decide to return, you should have to wait a month and then be allowed to return as normal staff.

Tintinnabulate
31-07-2010, 07:01 PM
You should be given 7 days to decide whether or not your resignation was the wise thing to do, if not, you can return back to your role. If you did want to resign and after the 7 days period you did decide to return, you should have to wait a month and then be allowed to return as normal staff.

Yeah.
Also JamesOYES deserved Assistant :S He has been staff for longer and is more active and helpful. I think we all know why RNB got it :rolleyes: Surprised HU is even Manager, he acts so immature on here. Broke 2 rules in 2 days.

Nixt
31-07-2010, 07:07 PM
Hiya - not rewriting it, but RE: JamesOYES - http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=658326&p=6638699#post6638699

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