Why is DJ bethie not a senior member yet.

[Glopy]

Many of you may already of read my rant about habbox in the past four years, if not.. feel free to have a mooch http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=660993

Dj bethie is one of the only real unique Djs of this moden age, In 2008 we was blessed with Unique Djs such as H0BJ0B, KNUXIBF, :::hotbabe:::, and ,jess, even though her habbo name has changed.

Now all we have is mainstream teenagers playing the same old music over and over again, because there to scared to lose listeners, UNIQUE QUALITY's IS WHAT MADE HABBOX HABBOX, IF HABBOX didnt think of making a online DJ site and a rare price site, *plus more (big shout out to the forum crew)*
Then they wouldn't be as successful as they are today, Habbox live used to think for there self and there uniqueness shines threw, *shined* now everything s the same. show after show, HABBOX DJS SPICE IT UP A BIT? im not saying your all the same, but jezz your not all completely different,

Bethie is the only one with balls "if i may say balls" to play a different type of music, and have a different outlook on her shows. so tbh, like the great Habbox DJs of the past, she deserves to be a Senior.

Oh and please Dont rant on about lack in DJS, underfunding, The merge of habbo, iv herd all your ballc in the last thread,

[Dinosaurawrr]

Habboxlive senior DJs do not go by wether a DJ is a fantastic or not, it's about how much time and effort is put into the radio.
Bethie is an amazing DJ however she has a full time job and cannot put as much time and effort into the radio as other DJs do.
I hope this answers your question :)

[xxMATTGxx]

I understand you like DJ Beth a lot and she is a very good DJ. Although I must stress that not all "Great" members of staff will get he next role up from them with ease just because they are fantastic, they do have to earn that and how to the Management of that department they are willing to put in the hours and do the work and so on. I'm sure the next time Senior DJ's have open places than HxL will look to make sure the correct people get the job. Maybe one day Beth will get the opportunity.

But this thread will not make this happen I'm afraid.

[Glopy]

Threads never make anything happen. there just here to make a point. and i like how no ones touched on the other part of my thread. just working on the bethie bit, how about we remove the bethie bit and go to uniqueness

[xxMATTGxx]

Threads never make anything happen. there just here to make a point. and i like how no ones touched on the other part of my thread. just working on the bethie bit, how about we remove the bethie bit and go to uniqueness

Ok so I will go and create a thread and say "Glopy should be a Forum Moderator" do you honesty think that gets people the job? I'm sorry but it doesn't. No threads that are made on HabboxForum in regards of X should have this job is actually going to happen. Just because they think that person is really good, doesn't mean everyone else agrees.

In regards of the other part, many DJ's try and play different music all the time but they also like reading the shoutout and requests. The requests then have the top 40 songs or whatever it is. Beth does a great show because she tells them it isn't a request show and tries her best to play the music not everyone gets to hear on HabboxLive. She isn't the only DJ who tries to play other music while they are on air.

[beth]

Ok so I will go and create a thread and say "Glopy should be a Forum Moderator" do you honesty think that gets people the job? I'm sorry but it doesn't. No threads that are made on HabboxForum in regards of X should have this job is actually going to happen. Just because they think that person is really good, doesn't mean everyone else agrees.

FINK EVERY1 SHUD AGREE :s

naw, for reals it's really nice you made this thread and all but i don't nearly have enough time to manage being senior at the moment. i dj for the fun of it anyway, and i wouldn't like to heap on the responsibility.
i work full time and i start uni in less than a month.

[Dinosaurawrr]

I understand how you don't see much uniqueness on the radio, I try myself to bring less mainstream music out onto the radio with my rave show, we have the rock chart with DJ Keri and the Introducing show with DJ Bethie.
Every show I try and play songs that are not played on the radio at all times however this is hard, Obviously we have requests from listeners and although its not hard to make 100 people happy we try our best by playing a mixture and their requests.
However it would be nice to get some feedback from the listeners and what they would like to see which is why we love to have feedback thread from you and we thank you for your time to create them.
I myself have tried to do diffrent things such as itunes Gifts as prizes and doing the best I can to do what the listeners want, each DJ in themselves have a sence of Uniqueness that they bring to Habboxlive wether its small things such as music genre or even there sence of DJing and there style they put across to the listeners we try our best to be unique from other fansites and In a way I think we are as we do alot better than other fansites.

[Glopy]

Ok so I will go and create a thread and say "Glopy should be a Forum Moderator" do you honesty think that gets people the job? I'm sorry but it doesn't. No threads that are made on HabboxForum in regards of X should have this job is actually going to happen. Just because they think that person is really good, doesn't mean everyone else agrees.


thats a crap example because i havent done anything to deserve forum mod, i never said it would make it happen at all?


(lol if there was a remove respect button i would so be in debt right now)


Anyway who said the forum had to be everyone opinion, im telling you mine, Dont like it, get of my thread?

[gangstaagent1]

Senior DJs are chosen not only for being unique. Senior DJs need to have all around qualities and not only be fantastic at being different. I'm not here to bash Bethie as she knows that I love her dearly however, DJ Bethie had returned not so over a month ago (If I am correct). As I was starting to say, senior DJs are chosen for different qualities, as in : Being active, being helpful, covering when possible, being nice to other members of staff and trialists, going down to the party rooms, being a good DJ, being nice with the listeners, I could go on for days however I won't because this will take too long. Yes, Bethie is all of these however we only have room for a certain amount of seniors at a time. HabboxLive management were aiming for 6 senior DJs during the summer and they have reached that amount. Yes, Bethie is everything you said however the thing that is keeping her from being a senior DJ is her time being returned as a radio DJ and also that we are not on a lookout for senior DJs at this time.

Also, you shouldn't say that all DJs are the same and play the same music over and over again, I have rarely heard the same song twice in a day for a while now so I don't see how this is a problem. The same artist may be played but different songs by the artist will be played. If you would like to hear a song, why not request it? Most DJs play the songs when you request them!

Also, I saw you mentioning Danny (H0BJ0B) He has returned as a guest DJ so you will be able to tune into him! He is going under the DJ name of DJ Knowalot.

But, at this time, the major thing that is keeping Bethie away from the senior position is because we do not need any at this time!

[Glopy]

FINK EVERY1 SHUD AGREE :s

naw, for reals it's really nice you made this thread and all but i don't nearly have enough time to manage being senior at the moment. i dj for the fun of it anyway, and i wouldn't like to heap on the responsibility.
i work full time and i start uni in less than a month. i know your a busybee, i just wanted to use you as a example really so i could have another rant about habbox, hopefully my constant complaints will make them think twice when they take further actions.. anyway, this is my opinion, at no point on the forums did it say i have to appease everyone else on here. If people dont agree with my criticism then they should get of my thread.

[Jamesy]

Anyway who said the forum had to be everyone opinion, im telling you mine, Dont like it, get of my thread?

Then I'm quite sure you would be the first to moan of the apathy of management. Matt has answered your thread, and now that you've been told a fair and justified no (and not out of disrespect to the DJ).

[xxMATTGxx]

thats a crap example because i havent done anything to deserve forum mod, i never said it would make it happen at all?


(lol if there was a remove respect button i would so be in debt right now)


Anyway who said the forum had to be everyone opinion, im telling you mine, Dont like it, get of my thread?

Excuse me? :S So because someone does not like your view in regards of something they should get out of the thread? I'm sorry but everyone is entitled to an opinion. Ok maybe my example was a bad example but I'm just showing you that threads saying someone should have this job, doesn't mean it will happen.

You are making these threads to give us your feedback and get your points across but you then say if no one likes it they should get out of your thread. Well if Habbox Management don't like your views, then you are saying they should get out of the thread? Then that doesn't get anything changed!

[gangstaagent1]

i just wanted to use you as a example really so i could have another rant about habbox,

So you're just complaining to complain?


hopefully my constant complaints will make them think twice when they take further actions..
What Further actions are you talking about? I think the management have good reasons when choosing their senior staff members

[beth]

Then I'm quite sure you would be the first to moan of the apathy of management. Matt has answered your thread, and now that you've been told a fair and justified no (and not out of disrespect to the DJ).

its kk james, i quite agree.

[Glopy]

Ok i see no ones going to like my views, someone shut the thread. i dont know how

[Dinosaurawrr]

It's not that we don't like your views hun, we are simply telling you how it is.
We are greatful for your feedback and we understand why you believe Bethie should be a senior DJ but her being awsome is not enough, senior takes time and effort and she is a very busy girl in real life with her job and soon to be uni she don't have time to help management with the day to day things such as listening to the DJs and reporting them for missing slots and swearing etc
and doing the things that need to be done.
There is no need whatsoever to be rude or think were targeting you.


And as far as im aware only VIP can close threads unless they removed that feature :),
try asking a forum mod to close for you.

[Glopy]

But all you seem to do is target oone point in the thread, and continue to pick at it, lets say the bit about bethie has nothing to do with with, tbh she was just a good example of what i feel the modern day dj needs, And lets say the senior Dj bit wasnt there, Lets just go back to Uniqueness, Yes sach i understand you do try, and you are also a very good Dj. but im feed up of listning to the same things day in day out, iv always been a loyal listner of habbox. for four years iv listend to habbox. and you know watching something epicly fail after so many years is heartbreaking. habbox need change. *call in barrack obama ;D*



ignore my spelling fails *dyslexic* :)

[gangstaagent1]

I have gotten Matt to close this thread for you.

[Glopy]

nahh keep it open tbh. if people dont like what i have to say its up to them

[Dinosaurawrr]

But all you seem to do is target oone point in the thread, and continue to pick at it, lets say the bit about bethie has nothing to do with with, tbh she was just a good example of what i feel the modern day dj needs, And lets say the senior Dj bit wasnt there, Lets just go back to Uniqueness, Yes sach i understand you do try, and you are also a very good Dj. but im feed up of listning to the same things day in day out, iv always been a loyal listner of habbox. for four years iv listend to habbox. and you know watching something epicly fail after so many years is heartbreaking. habbox need change. *call in barrack obama ;D*



ignore my spelling fails *dyslexic* :)
Every show I have done latley i've played about two mainstream songs, as i'm trying to tackle this myself by playing songs that are forgotten or even a diffrent genre, so hopefully this will make you feel better on the whole uniqueness thing and I can tell some of the other DJs are trying aswell so just try and tune in were doing the best we can!

Maybe you can help us out by requesting some older songs :) we try and play requests, so maybe instead of requesting new songs request some of your old favourites that have been forgotten! :)

[Glopy]

Every show I have done latley i've played about two mainstream songs, as i'm trying to tackle this myself by playing songs that are forgotten or even a diffrent genre, so hopefully this will make you feel better on the whole uniqueness thing and I can tell some of the other DJs are trying aswell so just try and tune in were doing the best we can!

Maybe you can help us out by requesting some older songs :) we try and play requests, so maybe instead of requesting new songs request some of your old favourites that have been forgotten! :)

even if i did want them, would you have them?? , and its not just about the music, its about what you do imbertween the songs. Djing is Easy, Keeping people entertained is not.

[Dinosaurawrr]

even if i did want them, would you have them?? , and its not just about the music, its about what you do imbertween the songs. Djing is Easy, Keeping people entertained is not.

This is true It's very hard to keep 100 people entertained as each person is unique and prefer diffrent things.
Some listeners prefer laid back DJs who have fun on air, some prefer very immature whilst others prefer proffessional which is why we have a mixture of DJs with a mixture of DJing techniques to try our best to keep the listeners as entertained as possible.
Some listeners prefer lots of competitions where as some prefer just listening to music so we have times were theres alot more music and times when we have big competitions that involve the listeners.
Theres also times when the listeners prefer rock songs to hip hop or rnb, dance techno etc. which is why we try our best to get a mixture of DJs with diffrent music genres as a way of keeping listeners entertained for example I myself and a rather dancey person and prefer remix's and ubeat songs where as we have DJ Keri who loves her rock songs but we both try to play a mixture of all genres.

Most of the time if a listener requests a song some of us have the songs whereas sometimes we don't but we try our best to buy the music you guys request before our next show so if we don't have it then drop us a pm and remind us what you would like to hear and we could get it for you!

Habboxlive strives to make as many users happy as we possibly can although as I said each to their own :)

[Richie]

I swear this is like the 10th thread I said this in but how come habboxlive djs always post in feedback threads saying 'I try my best' its not about you. I'm sure the quality of someones djing is taken into consideration before a promotion, senior djs are there to not only help about but to set an example, on and off air.

[Dinosaurawrr]

I swear this is like the 10th thread I said this in but how come habboxlive djs always post in feedback threads saying 'I try my best' its not about you. I'm sure the quality of someones djing is taken into consideration before a promotion, senior djs are there to not only help about but to set an example, on and off air.

Obviously Richie I cannot comment on everyone therefore I can only speak in first person as myself, However as you can see I have involved other DJs too although just the same other DJs can come and comment themselves I cannot say oh well DJ Jammy is trying to do this and DJ Jess is trying to do that I can only say what i'm doing.

[beth]

I swear this is like the 10th thread I said this in but how come habboxlive djs always post in feedback threads saying 'I try my best' its not about you. I'm sure the quality of someones djing is taken into consideration before a promotion, senior djs are there to not only help about but to set an example, on and off air.

I AM EXEMPLARY!

[9y]

Right, Theres many parts I agree and disagree in this post.

For a start, the title, Just no, you're not the manager, your not a senior. Dont try and place input where input is not needed. If Jess and Gems thinks that DJ Bethie deserves a shot at senior, It will be given, until then its up to them. Use a decent title next time. Making DJ Bethie a Senior DJ would have no effect on the music that everyone else plays.

Secondly I would like to say, how often do you listen to Habbox? I'm on most days (sometimes have periods of dissapearance) and if you actually listen my exact words are "I will not play mainstream music, If you ask for Tinie Tempah, Rhiannah or Eminem, you will be completely ignored" To see this, please do view the picture here: http://i35.tinypic.com/2n85veg.png

Yes, The DJ's in 2008 were great, and there are many different things that they have done compared to what is done now. I agree that many things need to be changed at Habboxlive and the music IS a main issue of the listener drop and ratings. This should be sorted, I cant do it alone, I try my best. Its a difficult time and without all of the DJ's participating in a scheme to make overplayed music not so overplayed we cant do much.

Next, The whole DJ team are teenagers. There is nothing we can do about employing teenagers, the whole site is based on teenagers. If you think you can do a better job, why don't you apply? Show us all how its done and then maybe we can do something about it together.

I agree, Habbox must be spiced up or we're going to the ground, currently, we're going absolutely nowhere very slowly. This isn't where, what, or how we wish to go but in all honesty, its exactly whats happening and everybody knows it. We need something to bring back the 300 listener mark and the current team are not doing so. I'm not pointing the finger at any DJ's, Staff or Management, I am a DJ and I know we need to get back to that stage.

I think you need to rephrase your comment or at least have the decency to admit your wrong. This "DJ Bethie is the only good DJ" attitude is pathetic. You really need to listen to all the DJs before you go ahead and try and name and shame them all under one category. I don't play mainstream for a reason, people get sick of it, we all know this. I remember the day I used to listen to Habbox for 10 hours a day. It was immense, fun, enjoyable and entertaining. Now, I don't listen if i'm not DJing because its the same old crap.

I'm going to now, compile a list of songs, send it to every DJ. Ask them to play 2 or 3 of the songs throughout the show that they pursue. Obviously this list would contain NO songs which would be of mainstream.

I hope that everyone, staff, listeners and criticises can help us get back to the listener rate that we used to have. I hope this answered your question.

Feel free to comment.

Scott x

[beth]

gonna be honest 9y you just contradicted yourself by saying "how often do you listen to the radio" and then saying "i don't listen unless i'm djing" just sayin' though.

[9y]

Shoot me.

[Glopy]

i would quote you scott but it will take to much room, i admit im wrong in some parts, of my theory, but not all. and that picture is listed along a time of two shows.. after the 3rd show usually the songs get replayed, and yes i tune in most days, when i can.

"I'm going to now, compile a list of songs, send it to every DJ. Ask them to play 2 or 3 of the songs throughout the show that they pursue. Obviously this list would contain NO songs which would be of mainstream. "
thankyou, nice to see people acctuall do something with there authority. habbox needs staff like you.


And My Djing days are well over, Maybe ill hold you to that "Show us what you got" till next summer fella,

Respect for Having a good feedback, (Y)

[9y]

Many thanks. Yes I may have gone back on myself. Currently making my large list. This is gonna keep me up all night! Why not see If you can come on for one show? I think that should be a chance. Get some people to DJ. Guest shows. Guests on habbox. Many different things that could be done!

We want solutions, not problems.

Hows this looking?

Older? Newer? More popular? Less Popular?

Feedback!

http://i37.tinypic.com/nlx4wg.png

x

[Glopy]

oOOooer Guest Dj on habboxlive, always have wanted a chance to check the habboxlive Setup out, Clubhabbos wasnt that great. but yeah guest Dj should be good.

[9y]

Updated pic: http://i35.tinypic.com/s5ftef.png

Whutcha think?

[Glopy]

there all still very mainstream. but its a start, try other geners of music. such ass. dubstep, indie, rock, because all i really see there is hiphop, r&b, poprock and pop. but tbh . no matter what anyone does..... the people who play habbo today only really use fansites as a way to get furni ;/ they dont enjoy what Djs have to offer,

tbh i had loads of stuff going threw my head then. thats why its probly so confusing to read, my msn is in my info feel free to add me and we can talk.

[9y]

Yeah my music is pretty basic, theres some golden oldies in there but clearly not enough to last the full day with different music. I do think a bit of dubstep and stuff could go nicely! x

[DJDynamix]

Well i agree in saying most DJ's play the top 40 non-stop but saying everybody else is **** because of that is out of order. Myself, i play a extreme lot of variety and any listeners who has listened to be would recognize that. Although i dont think this is a problem for myself, the DJ's play what is requested and what is fresh and you may not like that, but the listeners clearly do. So rather than moaning at how **** everybody else is, how about contributing some time and effort yourself?

[Dj.rhinoman]

Hi :)
I'm not a teenager, and 9y, let's get together and go over your list. Some of the hits that you've intacted to be non mainstream are not even a gold hit. If you want the DJs to go away from the power hits, then you need to incorporate recurrents, currents, etc., but playing something thats not even a gold will drop the ratings faster then an out of control elevator :)
When I come back from my vacation, I'll swing by my work and pick up some recurrent and gold listing charts and then we can incorporate a list of hits that listeners can still enjoy, that aren't the same pushed power hits they hear every day.

Also, to a couple of HabboxForum users, I don't speak on behalf of HabboxLive on any means, but, I noticed some comments were very "demeaning" and "innapproriate" that was said to you and I sincerely apologize that you had to read that.


Cheers friends

Rhino

[9y]

Yes I agree my music wasnt the best variety, If we all put a big list like that in, shortlist it and decide on some good hits. We've gotta do some form of action. We'll do somthing together when you return for sure :) x

[DJDynamix]

Hi :)
I'm not a teenager, and 9y, let's get together and go over your list. Some of the hits that you've intacted to be non mainstream are not even a gold hit. If you want the DJs to go away from the power hits, then you need to incorporate recurrents, currents, etc., but playing something thats not even a gold will drop the ratings faster then an out of control elevator :)


I know you wern't being rude, but to stress a point. As far as i know Scott was only trying to help. He was not forcing everyone to take his music. If he's a criminal for attempting to help...

[Dj.rhinoman]

I know you wern't being rude, but to stress a point. As far as i know Scott was only trying to help. He was not forcing everyone to take his music. If he's a criminal for attempting to help...

Hi friend :)
You can PM me for matters like this! Sorry if it came off wrong, I'm sure 9y completely understood.

[Glopy]

tbh i think i am contribution by complaining, some good did come out of with with scotts aka 9y's best efforts to help solve to music problem.


Yes i do complain alot, im a very opinionated person, but if no one says anything at all, then its just going to slip away slowly,

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Updated pic: http://i35.tinypic.com/s5ftef.png

Whutcha think?

MGMT KIDS <3 LOVE that song, Scott do a show, once a week, called the unoffical, get people to pre-send in songs, that are by mediocre, un official bands, and let the public have a taste of what other music is out there, instead of eatting the same olg gray slop served up by bigtime recording labels. someone who i really like is gabriealla alpin, check her out.

[nvrspk4]

I think that some good came out of this thread - the point that you want HabboxLive to have more variety. Saying you want more variety and giving an example, for example asking DJs to post their libraries and giving examples of unrepresented genres, as you've begun doing in the later portions of the thread, are good.

Doing things such as questioning staff decisions are easy ways to get shut down - personnel decision-making is for management only and any attempt by members to try and manage personnel issues via forum threads will (very rightly) get shot down. The Habbox team definitely wants feedback on its services, perhaps even on its staff culture or staff attitude, but definitely not feedback on personnel decisions. If you REALLY think you have something to share about hiring/firing/promotions, I'd suggest PMing it.

Also another thing to quickly hit on was you said something to the effect of "if they don't like it they can get the hell out of my thread." The point of feedback is that people can agree or disagree with you. If people disagree with you they should have every right to say it - how else will we know if its a community opinion or just yours? You should welcome disagreement, and if you can respond to dissent, that makes your case stronger. If you can't respond to dissent, you now see a hole in your logic. Either way the "agree or don't post" mentality is the opposite of what Feedback should be.

In closing, good point on the variety of HabboxLive songs as we're seeing, but try to work on the delivery of said points :P

[samsaBEAR]

I don't listen to the radio that much, but when I do I only listen to Beth because I don't want to hear Lady GaGa over and over and over and over again. There are different types of music, and it would be nice if the DJs could play more alternative/heavier music. Hell, I'd apply to DJ to play that sort of stuff if I could be bothered.

[Josh]

Forgetting the DJ Bethie part, I agree in the rest of the post, it was so much better in '08 for those reasons.