Iran hours away from firing up first nuclear reactor

[-:Undertaker:-]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-11045537


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Iran's first nuclear power station is to be loaded with fuel and declared operational in a ceremony attended by Iranian and Russian officials. Nationwide celebrations are planned to mark the event at the Bushehr reactor in southern Iran. Russia will operate the plant, supplying its nuclear fuel and taking away the nuclear waste. Iran has been subject to four rounds of UN sanctions because of its separate uranium enrichment programme.
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The West fears Tehran wants to build a nuclear weapon, but Iran insists its plans are for peaceful energy production. The Bushehr facility has taken 35 years to build and has been plagued by delays. The BBC's Jon Leyne says Iranian officials have promoted Saturday's launch as a victory for the Islamic republic against its enemies. Professor Ali Ansari, an Iran expert at the University of St Andrews, in Scotland, said Tehran was likely to exaggerate the importance of the start-up at Bushehr. "It will obviously have a very theatrical opening but the delays have meant that the power plant is a very old model and the contribution to the national grid is very small," he said.Well while it's not ideal that Iran acquires nuclear weapons, they have every right to do so and if I were in government in Iran; acquiring nuclear weapons would be my first priority considering US troops surround the country and Israel has illegal (illegal under international 'law' anyway if you believe in such a thing) nuclear weapons pointing at Iran.

I used to be very against the idea of Iran and other nations such as this getting a foothold, but i've changed on that now - we (as in actions of our politicians) are no better than them. The western world has no moral mandate to enforce our 'values' which our political class destroy every year with ever more laws and ever more freedoms taken away in the name of 'security'.

Thoughts?

[Tash.]

I'm undecided on what to think of this really. One the one hand I have always thought who are we (the west) to say who should and should not have nuclear capablities? But I think now that may be a little naive. I used to think that the west perhaps wanted to limit who had nuclear capabilities to keep a grasp on the power, now, considering the dangerous nature of the people in charge of countries such as Iran I think it might be justified to want to keep them away from it. Iran has already said it wishes to 'wipe Israel off the map' and now they seem to be developing the means to do what they say. I'm not sure i'd feel all that safe in Israel, not that I particularly do here as they aren't exactly great friends of the UK now are they? I think we need to come away from terms such as should we 'allow' Iran to have nuclear power and change it to do we feel safe them having it? I don't.

[Apple]

Countries such as America/England/Germany etc can be trusted with nuclear weapons however some countries just cannot be. At least we know that they are being monitored very closely.

[Niall!]

Countries such as America/England/Germany etc can be trusted with nuclear weapons however some countries just cannot be. At least we know that they are being monitored very closely.

I disagree. While a Nuclear weapon is a very dangerous thing, I don't believe the EU or the USA has the right to stop people from acquiring them.

[Grig]

It's done safely in the hands of Russia. I'm sure Russia isn't going to put the world at risk from any threat of nuclear weapons. I say let them go ahead and stop focusing on Iran. You have got many more Middle-Eastern states that have a lot of nuclear weapons such as Israel and we don't say anything about them simply because they are a close ally to the US.

[Jordy]

It's done safely in the hands of Russia. I'm sure Russia isn't going to put the world at risk from any threat of nuclear weapons. I say let them go ahead and stop focusing on Iran. You have got many more Middle-Eastern states that have a lot of nuclear weapons such as Israel and we don't say anything about them simply because they are a close ally to the US.What middle-eastern states are these?

IMO the data to build nuclear weapons should of never been leaked beyond UK, US, France, Russia and China (The UN Security Council basically). Although I think it was fair that Pakistan also built nuclear weapons to counter the threat from India. Other states can't be trusted and are a threat to the world's security, Israel, North Korea and Iran for example.

[Fez]

Tick tock tick tock, there goes the doomsday clock.

When two hostile nations get a hold of nuclear weapons, and tension mounts, it's the Cold War all over again.

[Nemo]

I disagree. While a Nuclear weapon is a very dangerous thing, I don't believe the EU or the USA has the right to stop people from acquiring them.
I agree, if they wanna then go for it. I dont think they'll be dumb enough to use them, because lets face it no one is gonna use em. But if something had been launched at iran, what could they have done? nothing. Atleast now they've got some kind of deterrance.

[KebabJuice]

To be honest i think that people with more power than other countries want to be in control; although people are saying they're "protecting" us but I believe that we all should deserve to have a shot in life. why not take it?

Im pretty sure Iran hasn't had any previous convictions of suicide bombing - or am i wrong?

[Jordy]

To be honest i think that people with more power than other countries want to be in control; although people are saying they're "protecting" us but I believe that we all should deserve to have a shot in life. why not take it?

Im pretty sure Iran hasn't had any previous convictions of suicide bombing - or am i wrong?Iran is a country not a person? It's heavily linked to all the suicide bombing and terrorism in Iraq, it provides much support and weapons for groups there. Not only that but it provides much support to terrorist groups operating in Lebanon. It also has a history of disputes with the US, UK, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Oh and it has an illegitimate government seeing as the president effectively rigged last years election.

[Apple]

Iran is a country not a person? It's heavily linked to all the suicide bombing and terrorism in Iraq, it provides much support and weapons for groups there. Not only that but it provides much support to terrorist groups operating in Lebanon. It also has a history of disputes with the US, UK, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Oh and it has an illegitimate government seeing as the president effectively rigged last years election.

And a country like this can be trusted with the most deadly weapons on the earth? Me thinks not, neither does the UK and US which is why of course they are being closely monitored.

[immense]

I don't think it's up for us or anyone to determine who is trusted. The west supposedly do it for their own security. How many times have Iran attacked the west? How many times have the west invaded countries? Endless.

[KebabJuice]

To be quite honest
1) If they have been linked to suicide bombing - Wheres your evidence.
2) Where did you get the impression Iran is a person?
3) How do you know the information the press give us is true? (not saying all of it isn't true)

Nuclear weapons are also being monitored closely with the UK and US like Apple said; so why can't Iran be monitored to?

[Jordy]

To be quite honest
1) If they have been linked to suicide bombing - Wheres your evidence.
2) Where did you get the impression Iran is a person?
3) How do you know the information the press give us is true? (not saying all of it isn't true)

Nuclear weapons are also being monitored closely with the UK and US like Apple said; so why can't Iran be monitored to?What's the point in me giving evidence, my evidence will be from the press which you will just say is probably made up. You can quite easily google it. Where's your evidence that the UK & US nuclear weapons are closely monitored?

This isn't a court room trial, it's common knowledge Iran is behind terrorism in Iraq & Lebanon. No one's proved to me the world is round yet I still believe that.

[Apple]

To be quite honest
1) If they have been linked to suicide bombing - Wheres your evidence.
2) Where did you get the impression Iran is a person?
3) How do you know the information the press give us is true? (not saying all of it isn't true)

Nuclear weapons are also being monitored closely with the UK and US like Apple said; so why can't Iran be monitored to?

Sorry if I confused you. What I meant was the US and UK can't trust Iran which is why they (the US and UK) are monitoring Iran. :P

[Fez]

Nuclear deterrents cannot solve EVERYTHING. If everybody got them at the very same time, perhaps so, but who knows if one fell into terrorist hands. I firmly believe the invention of the nuclear bomb is the greatest and worse thing to ever happen to civilised culture..

[KebabJuice]

Oh I understand now Apple lol :p
true.
Jordy: Google is the internet. information on the internet is not always
Infact most likely its biased.

[Jordy]

Oh I understand now Apple lol :p
true.
Jordy: Google is the internet. information on the internet is not always
Infact most likely its biased.Well then, how am I supposed to provide you with evidence?

If you PM me your address and postcode one day I will come down with some Iraqi suicide bombers who will explain to you how they have been funded by the Iranians. But then again, how will you know they are not actors?

[KebabJuice]

You can research it by going to Iran yourself :)

1 )Why would i pm you my address and postcode?
2 ) I doubt suicide bombers would blow up a small town - they would rather do damage in a city
3 ) Why would they be actors?

[Jordy]

You can research it by going to Iran yourself :)

1 )Why would i pm you my address and postcode?
2 ) I doubt suicide bombers would blow up a small town - they would rather do damage in a city
3 ) Why would they be actors?I don't need to research it for myself lol, first of all I wouldn't be able to get a visa for Iran and unlike yourself I believe the clearly obvious.

The point I was making was that, seeing as you do not accept any evidence on the internet, perhaps you would accept it in real life, but then again, how can you be sure everything in real life is what it seems.

[Special]

it's ok it will get bombed give it a few months

[GommeInc]

Meh, they can have nuclear power if they want to, it's annoying that us - the pedantic western world - can have nuclear power but when a country that is apparently "streaming with terrorists" gets it they're immediately seen as a threat and immediately evil. I'm sure we'd all be aware if weapons are being made or uranium goes missing, but for now we shouldn't immediately assume Nuclear War and imminent death :P

[Catzsy]

Meh, they can have nuclear power if they want to, it's annoying that us - the pedantic western world - can have nuclear power but when a country that is apparently "streaming with terrorists" gets it they're immediately seen as a threat and immediately evil. I'm sure we'd all be aware if weapons are being made or uranium goes missing, but for now we shouldn't immediately assume Nuclear War and imminent death :P

Well as long a nuclear weapons remain a deterrant I agree with you. The problem arises when they get into the wrong hands. I think we should just wait and see here.

[Rock]

I trust Iran more with it than the US.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Iran is a country not a person? It's heavily linked to all the suicide bombing and terrorism in Iraq, it provides much support and weapons for groups there. Not only that but it provides much support to terrorist groups operating in Lebanon. It also has a history of disputes with the US, UK, Israel and Saudi Arabia. Oh and it has an illegitimate government seeing as the president effectively rigged last years election.

Well we also have an illegitimate and unelected self-described government based in Brussels, along with a managerial government based in Westminister which has imposed more survellance on this country than is imposed on the chinese people by their Police-state government. I don't think we are in any position to criticise how other states run their affairs - especially as our foreign policy is so backward where we are friends with one despot (Colonel Gaddafi for instance) but not friends with another (Mugabe as one example).

Friends with China, not friends with Zimbabwe.
Friends with Libya, not friends with Iran.

No moral highground what-so-ever.