Sticking a thread?

[samsaBEAR]

Hey so basically in the Music forum we've had just a stupid amount of threads from the same few users that are beginning to annoy me, and I know it's bugging some other members. Basically, all these threads contain is a music video. Some don't even have text to support whatever is in said video. Not only am I sure that this is pointless posting, but the same individual has eight seperate threads, and the only one with more than five posts is one that me and another forum member had gently asked her to refrain from doing so (she's a new member, helping out the new people and so on).
However it's just getting stupid, as you can probably see from your logs, I use the Music forum a hell of a lot, and when I'm going through it, I don't want to have to see eight dead end threads each with a different video in, and like I said, some even without text in the post.
I've created a thread here: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=663491&p=6698887#post6698887 (title could be changed, wasn't sure what to call it). Can we please get it stuck?
Thanks and sorry if this is completely in the wrong place

[Slowpoke]

I don't fully understand you here. Are you suggest that people no longer create threads such as (for example): "Lady GaGa - Poker Face" where they would then post the music video and ask for peoples thoughts on the song and video? Instead, they would use your thread?

[Muct]

It's a music section, in a forum...
People can do whatever they like, and it is not pointless posting seeing as it contains a music video, Music section + Music vieo = Music

AND we already have this
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=566384&page=1398

[Slowpoke]

If he means that threads for individual songs and videos should no longer be created then I'm with you Jack. Surely that's the whole point of the music section.

[samsaBEAR]

well if you read my post you'd see that the user is posting threads without even writing in them, and while yes, they are to do with music, eight threads with like two replies are clogging up the forum and leaving more active threads unseen, i rarely see either of you in the music forum so it's not a problem for you, but someone such as me who is really active in there, it's very overwhelming

[W00TZEH]

lol no there is not going to be a thread just for music videos

[Samantha.]

Isn't the music section there to post the lastest songs that people like. I have noticed recently that a member has been posting loads of musics videos with old songs and songs/bands that I personally have never heard of!

[wiktoria]

Isn't the music section there to post the lastest songs that people like. I have noticed recently that a member has been posting loads of musics videos with old songs and songs/bands that I personally have never heard of!

This.
The music section is there to post the new music. It's kinda annoying that one or two users decide to post loadsss of old songs though.

[Muct]

This.
The music section is there to post the new music. It's kinda annoying that one or two users decide to post loadsss of old songs though.

The music section is not there to post new music at all, it's there to post any music, if it was there for new music it would be titled 'New Music Section'.

[Cosmic]

Hey so basically in the Music forum we've had just a stupid amount of threads from the same few users that are beginning to annoy me, and I know it's bugging some other members. Basically, all these threads contain is a music video. Some don't even have text to support whatever is in said video. Not only am I sure that this is pointless posting, but the same individual has eight seperate threads, and the only one with more than five posts is one that me and another forum member had gently asked her to refrain from doing so (she's a new member, helping out the new people and so on).
However it's just getting stupid, as you can probably see from your logs, I use the Music forum a hell of a lot, and when I'm going through it, I don't want to have to see eight dead end threads each with a different video in, and like I said, some even without text in the post.
I've created a thread here: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=663491&p=6698887#post6698887 (title could be changed, wasn't sure what to call it). Can we please get it stuck?
Thanks and sorry if this is completely in the wrong place

I understand where you're coming from and I agree that it can be a little annoying when users post videos without any corresponding text, making it look post count related and so I think something should be done about this. At least asking for people's opinions is better than nothing imo.

In regards to using a thread, I think this would be the death of the music section as I'd say that 98% of all new threads in there are created around users posting these video type threads which would leave the odd couple of threads being made about gigs etc. So perhaps we need to address the issue of posting videos for the sake of it.


Isn't the music section there to post the lastest songs that people like. I have noticed recently that a member has been posting loads of musics videos with old songs and songs/bands that I personally have never heard of!

Pretty much as Muct said, the music section is for posting music. There's no time limit as to when people can post songs that would then be considered as being 'old'. I think that posting unheard artists/songs is a great thing!

[Samantha.]

User's just post song after song after song, it's not like there just posting one song and asking peoples opinion on it they post loads!

[wiktoria]

The music section is not there to post new music at all, it's there to post any music, if it was there for new music it would be titled 'New Music Section'.

Well what's the point posting old songs that have already probably been posted :S

The annoying thing is that some people just put the title and the song they don't even add anything to it, like why they like it

[Muct]

User's just post song after song after song, it's not like there just posting one song and asking peoples opinion on it they post loads!

As long as they're posting music it's OKay for me. ;)


Well what's the point posting old songs that have already probably been posted :S

Because peoples opinions would've changed, and more new members would've come by!

[wiktoria]

Because peoples opinions would've changed, and more new members would've come by!

I'm not saying that you do this but a certain user just posts really old songs and doesn't add anything to it. Isn't this pointless posting? At least add your opinion or something.

[Muct]

I'm not saying that you do this but a certain user just posts really old songs and doesn't add anything to it. Isn't this pointless posting? At least add your opinion or something.
not exactly pointless posting because it has the video in it, contributing to the whole music section.
But yeah it does kinda annoy me sometimes.

[Alex3213]

I'm not saying that you do this but a certain user just posts really old songs and doesn't add anything to it. Isn't this pointless posting? At least add your opinion or something.

Wiki's summed it up really. Sure, an older song once in a while is OK with an opinion of yours to add to the flippin' video might actual be useful. In all honesty, I'm with samsa in the sense that without an opinion it is just a pointless post. Finding a video isn't hard, posting an opinion isn't either but at least it gives the post some character.

[Samantha.]

I'm not saying that you do this but a certain user just posts really old songs and doesn't add anything to it. Isn't this pointless posting? At least add your opinion or something.

Agree with Wiki, people tend not to add why they like the song which they should do!

[lTraditional]

I do find this highly annoying aswell and they just post any random song they found on youtube to raise there post count!! Maybe if they are going to post music videos, then create one thread with the music videos on instead of 8 little threads with no text at all as I see it is very pointless.

[Sarah]

I'm not saying that you do this but a certain user just posts really old songs and doesn't add anything to it. Isn't this pointless posting? At least add your opinion or something.

It should come under pointless posting as you are not allowed to post anything less than two/one worded answers (Im sure It could come under this?)


A6. Do not post pointlessly ~ ~ Do not post off-topic ~ An off-topic post has no relevance to the topic or any previous post that is relevant, or does little to positively contribute to the discussion.
~ Do not spam/make pointless posts. It is not allowed to post random, meaningless, posts or threads on the forum. Examples of this are (ROFLCOPTER!!!!!!); (BYRDSB +HKK; ) (I am a plane)
~ Do not post short, one or two word responses without reasoning or explanation, for instance "I agree", try giving a short explanation or reason for your answer! This means that threads which only allow for a short, one or two word answer will be closed or moved to spam.


I do find this highly annoying aswell and they just post any random song they found on youtube to raise there post count!! Maybe if they are going to post music videos, then create one thread with the music videos on instead of 8 little threads with no text at all as I see it is very pointless.

It is rather annoying but it can also be good to hear some really old good tracks. I Know that threads will be closed/merged if there is already a discussion about something going on and a music video is posted as a new thread when it is not needed.

[Catzsy]

Hey so basically in the Music forum we've had just a stupid amount of threads from the same few users that are beginning to annoy me, and I know it's bugging some other members. Basically, all these threads contain is a music video. Some don't even have text to support whatever is in said video. Not only am I sure that this is pointless posting, but the same individual has eight seperate threads, and the only one with more than five posts is one that me and another forum member had gently asked her to refrain from doing so (she's a new member, helping out the new people and so on).
However it's just getting stupid, as you can probably see from your logs, I use the Music forum a hell of a lot, and when I'm going through it, I don't want to have to see eight dead end threads each with a different video in, and like I said, some even without text in the post.
I've created a thread here: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=663491&p=6698887#post6698887 (title could be changed, wasn't sure what to call it). Can we please get it stuck?
Thanks and sorry if this is completely in the wrong place

I am not sure about a stickied thread but you make some good points.

I don't think video's just posted without supporting text should be allowed. If you like it enough to post then you should be able to say why otherwise it does look like a cynical attempt just to rise the post count which is what I feel you are complaining about as it clogs up the forum. On the other hand I don't think that it should be restricted to 'new music' as further mentioned in the thread as it is the 'Music' section and not just for the latest videos so Iif you really do like a clip or an old song and say why it should be allowed. This is a pretty good thread for discussion though.

[Hecktix]

Isn't the music section there to post the lastest songs that people like. I have noticed recently that a member has been posting loads of musics videos with old songs and songs/bands that I personally have never heard of!


This.
The music section is there to post the new music. It's kinda annoying that one or two users decide to post loadsss of old songs though.


The music section is not there to post new music at all, it's there to post any music, if it was there for new music it would be titled 'New Music Section'.

This is a perfect answer to the two above posts and I shall say no more - It's the Music section, not the New Music Section.


I am not sure about a stickied thread but you make some good points.

I don't think video's just posted without supporting text should be allowed. If you like it enough to post then you should be able to say why otherwise it does look like a cynical attempt just to rise the post count which is what I feel you are complaining about as it clogs up the forum. On the other hand I don't think that it should be restricted to 'new music' as further mentioned in the thread as it is the 'Music' section and not just for the latest videos so Iif you really do like a clip or an old song and say why it should be allowed. This is a pretty good thread for discussion though.

I quite agree, if you are going to post a video in the music section in a thread then that's fine although it should really contain some form of opinion, question or something, you gotta write some form of text with it or it's not really starting a very good discussion is it?

Sarah is correct, it can fit into the one word answer rule in the rule she quoted, however it's no words so it's even worse!!! I shall speak with the moderators and ensure that music videos posted on their own with no text are being edited for that.

In terms of making a stickied thread for music videos, I agree with everybody that says it'd kill the music section - the section is for threads about songs and this is the way it will continue to be, your thread won't be getting stuck, sorry.

[samsaBEAR]

So what we're saying is that we're allowed to just post one music video per thread, as long as we have text in each thread to support the video? That's cool because I have like ten videos I'd like to share with people, I'm sure they'd love ten separate threads on the first page.
To be honest, in my just woken up stupidly early for work angry state, I may have been a bit OTT about a music video thread, but I'm thinking some kind of rule needs to implemented, because at the moment, like whoever posted, this person has pointless posted about five times, and it's just stupid to see them all on the first page.

[Slowpoke]

That's cool because I have like ten videos I'd like to share with people, I'm sure they'd love ten separate threads on the first page.

So just because you're not getting your own way you're going to act immature?

Yes, a rule does need to implemented. Obviously, creating a thread with a music video and nothing else unacceptable as it would come under the pointless posting rule nor does it create any discussion.

But as has been said, it's the 'music' section, not the 'new music' section and most people post the threads to get views on songs they like. I know that some people use that section to find new songs and if all music video posting is confined to one thread, then most videos will get lost in the thread - a lot quicker than they do at the moment in the general forum. And I doubt most have the patience to go trawling through a thread.

[Hecktix]

So what we're saying is that we're allowed to just post one music video per thread, as long as we have text in each thread to support the video? That's cool because I have like ten videos I'd like to share with people, I'm sure they'd love ten separate threads on the first page.
To be honest, in my just woken up stupidly early for work angry state, I may have been a bit OTT about a music video thread, but I'm thinking some kind of rule needs to implemented, because at the moment, like whoever posted, this person has pointless posted about five times, and it's just stupid to see them all on the first page.

The thing is, a thread discussing a song - there's nothing wrong with it so as long as there is text to back up the posting of any music videos - it's fine.

It would be incredibly childish for you to post 10 different videos at the same time in different threads but if you want to sink to that level then it's you that looks immature, I'm sorry to be blunt but that's how it is and it's no skin off my nose.

The music forum isn't terribly active, there aren't so many threads that threads are being sent three or four pages back within days and never get seen again.

I've just taken a look in the music forum and it appears to mainly be one member posting videos without any text. I'll begin by stating the first thing that stuck out to me - the member joined in August 2010. To see a new member trying to create discussion like that is quite good, how many others do it? Yes okay, she may not be sticking entirely to the forum rules however which new members read and digest the rules with 10 days of joining? Give her a break.

[samsaBEAR]

So just because you're not getting your own way you're going to act immature?

Yes, a rule does need to implemented. Obviously, creating a thread with a music video and nothing else unacceptable as it would come under the pointless posting rule nor does it create any discussion.

But as has been said, it's the 'music' section, not the 'new music' section and most people post the threads to get views on songs they like. I know that some people use that section to find new songs and if all music video posting is confined to one thread, then most videos will get lost in the thread - a lot quicker than they do at the moment in the general forum. And I doubt most have the patience to go trawling through a thread.
I have no idea why you're talking about new or old music, I haven't even mentioned the age of the music the user is posting.


The thing is, a thread discussing a song - there's nothing wrong with it so as long as there is text to back up the posting of any music videos - it's fine.

It would be incredibly childish for you to post 10 different videos at the same time in different threads but if you want to sink to that level then it's you that looks immature, I'm sorry to be blunt but that's how it is and it's no skin off my nose.

The music forum isn't terribly active, there aren't so many threads that threads are being sent three or four pages back within days and never get seen again.

I've just taken a look in the music forum and it appears to mainly be one member posting videos without any text. I'll begin by stating the first thing that stuck out to me - the member joined in August 2010. To see a new member trying to create discussion like that is quite good, how many others do it? Yes okay, she may not be sticking entirely to the forum rules however which new members read and digest the rules with 10 days of joining? Give her a break.
Aren't you meant to read the rules completely beforesigning up? Definitely not an excuse in my opinion, but whatever, I see none of you aren't getting what I'm trying to say so just close the thread or whatever

[Hecktix]

I have no idea why you're talking about new or old music, I haven't even mentioned the age of the music the user is posting.


Aren't you meant to read the rules completely beforesigning up? Definitely not an excuse in my opinion, but whatever, I see none of you aren't getting what I'm trying to say so just close the thread or whatever

Yes you are meant to read the rules before signing up but that's not to say everybody does. Did you?

[samsaBEAR]

Yes you are meant to read the rules before signing up but that's not to say everybody does. Did you?
Not all of them no, but that's not the point, you can't use the fact she's new to the forum as an excuse to not punishing her for breaking the rules. If I pointless posted I'd get warnings left, right and centre. If I had broken rules in my first few weeks I wouldn't expect to be treated differently

[Slowpoke]

General pointless posting doesn't get you warnings/infractions as far as I'm aware? You'd get a PM advising you not to do it again as I'm sure the user in question has. She probably didn't even realise that those threads were pointless because posting a music video can actually provoke discussion. If a user posts a music video asking for and giving opinions on the song then surely it's fine.

I can see where you're coming from though. Posting several music videos a day all with their own threads could be seen as "cluttering" said forum but as long as it's provoking discussion. However, that's what a forum is all about...

[Sarah]

As long as there is some text with the video (that is on topic) then the video is fine. It will be closed if there is already a discussion about something then someone makes a new thread to show off the music video - as it is not needed (eg katy perry thread talking about a song then someone makes a new thread with the music video then the music video thread will be closed or if there is a large amount of posts merged into the previous one). I think the way it is now is fine honestly - it keeps the music section active.

[samsaBEAR]

If your idea of eight threads with three posts in is active then you're an idiot. Like RedStratocas said, the music forum used to be an excellent place for discussions, regardless of taste but now all there threads are just making it awful to look at. The support for a stuck thread was positive, people want it to happen yet you still disregard everything i say

[Muct]

Just because people want it to happen doesn't mean it will... :l
We have the 'What are you listening to' thread already, sticking the named thread will just end up like another one of them.

[Samantha.]

Just because people want it to happen doesn't mean it will... :l
We have the 'What are you listening to' thread already, sticking the named thread will just end up like another one of them.

I agree, people will end up just posting anything in there for no reason.

[Muct]

I agree, people will end up just posting anything in there for no reason.

Yeah, and it'll just get spammed like the what are you listening to thread by the same 2 or 3 people every few minutes lol

[Samantha.]

Yeah, and it'll just get spammed like the what are you listening to thread by the same 2 or 3 people every few minutes lol

Exactly, I think they should just leave the music thread how it is. It's there to post music but I think people have to say in the thread like why they like the song

[Muct]

Exactly, I think they should just leave the music thread how it is. It's there to post music but I think people have to say in the thread like why they like the song

Yeah, really this is all Samsa is complaining about, there is no need for a new thread to be made for music videos, but K-Cat has just made one so like... We could use that if we like? But no point in stickying it at all.

[Samantha.]

I don't think many people will use it though, since people post videos on there to get peoples opinions

[Muct]

I don't think many people will use it though, since people post videos on there to get peoples opinions

Yep, and if it does turn out like the WAYLT thread, no opinions are going to be shared at all :l

[Samantha.]

Nope and that defeats the object because that is the whole reason why people post music videos on there to get other peoples opinions on the song and the video, this is why there should be a rule or something which says that you have to say your own opinion on the song!

[Muct]

Nope and that defeats the object because that is the whole reason why people post music videos on there to get other peoples opinions on the song and the video, this is why there should be a rule or something which says that you have to say your own opinion on the song!

Yeah, I agree with this, and sometimes it just comes across as trolling when people just post a video -.-

[Hecktix]

Not all of them no, but that's not the point, you can't use the fact she's new to the forum as an excuse to not punishing her for breaking the rules. If I pointless posted I'd get warnings left, right and centre. If I had broken rules in my first few weeks I wouldn't expect to be treated differently

No and this user has been sent a PM explaining this, however when you were a new member and perhaps broke a few rules would you expect a feedback thread ridiculing you? No you bloody well wouldn't, and that's why this thread is ridiculous.


General pointless posting doesn't get you warnings/infractions as far as I'm aware? You'd get a PM advising you not to do it again as I'm sure the user in question has. She probably didn't even realise that those threads were pointless because posting a music video can actually provoke discussion. If a user posts a music video asking for and giving opinions on the song then surely it's fine.

I can see where you're coming from though. Posting several music videos a day all with their own threads could be seen as "cluttering" said forum but as long as it's provoking discussion. However, that's what a forum is all about...

I like you.


Just because people want it to happen doesn't mean it will... :l
We have the 'What are you listening to' thread already, sticking the named thread will just end up like another one of them.

This guy is also talking sense.

So yes, I think that's all issues with this thread covered:

- Posting a music video without any text is pointless posting
- Users doing it will be PM'd by a Moderator
- One user has done it recently and this is a new member, you are posting here to moan about one individual member, how welcoming.
- We have a stuck thread for random songs you want to share without any comment - What are you Listening to - nothing stopping videos going in there.
- The music section is for sharing music you like with other people.

Thread closed.