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TonyBest
14-09-2010, 10:31 AM
While looking through my contact list on Windows Live Messenger i noticed an advertisement about IE9's Beta release. which says Tomorrow (15/9/2010) After clicking it, it took me to the site

http://www.beautyoftheweb.co.uk/

The Beta is expected to be released tomorrow as the hint says, i might download it

Richie
14-09-2010, 10:38 AM
I'd say its still gonna be ****, I'm sticken with ff.

kk.
14-09-2010, 10:57 AM
I'm still going to dislike the bulkiness I think. Will probs stick with chrome. Though o will try it out

Mikey
14-09-2010, 11:04 AM
I really really dislike Internet Explorer. It takes ages to load and it crashes my computer, i'm gonna stick with Google Chrome sorry. :)

HotelUser
14-09-2010, 11:15 AM
The worst web browser in history. Will this even use CSS3? Even if it does I'll most likely still have to write one version of my sites for IE and one for everything else.

Jamesy
14-09-2010, 11:36 AM
I'm going to approach it with an open mind, I'll never switch from Opera but if it brings it up to somewhat modern standards it will be a vast improvement.

TonyBest
14-09-2010, 12:28 PM
Ive always used chrome myself but i just want to see how much of an improvement IE9 will have.

Jahova
14-09-2010, 03:04 PM
I will give it a fair chance. I've switched browsers a lot recently and IE never lets me down when I'm in need!

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2010, 03:14 PM
I'm going to give it a chance and see, yes I know IE is very hated and disliked by many people but with IE9 I've heard good news about this version and going to see it for myself. I will only say it's crap like the rest of IE when the final version is out! xD

Recursion
14-09-2010, 03:23 PM
I love the fact people are dismissing IE9, even though it's meant to follow webstandards better than some other major browsers... all I can say is LOL at you guys.

Grippz
14-09-2010, 03:35 PM
I will give it a try but I can't see it beating Chrome tbh!

HotelUser
14-09-2010, 03:35 PM
I love the fact people are dismissing IE9, even though it's meant to follow webstandards better than some other major browsers... all I can say is LOL at you guys.

On the basis of how awful every single one of its predecessors was I don't blame them.

AgnesIO
14-09-2010, 04:09 PM
I love the fact people are dismissing IE9, even though it's meant to follow webstandards better than some other major browsers... all I can say is LOL at you guys.

Cant rep you again, but spot on Tom. People should give it a chance

xxMATTGxx
14-09-2010, 04:29 PM
On the basis of how awful every single one of its predecessors was I don't blame them.

You could say that about their Windows Vista though in your eyes. You hate Windows Vista so you going to automatically hate Windows 7 too? No it doesn't work like that. You have to give each version a try, if it's still crap like the older versions then fair enough but you haven't even tried it out yet.

AgnesIO
14-09-2010, 04:37 PM
You could say that about their Windows Vista though in your eyes. You hate Windows Vista so you going to automatically hate Windows 7 too? No it doesn't work like that. You have to give each version a try, if it's still crap like the older versions then fair enough but you haven't even tried it out yet.

Totally agree. I don't think the first Macintosh computer was brilliant. Yet you have an iMac David? :P

Just because old things from companies are not very good, does not mean the new versions are.

I use Safari, however I will try IE9 - if it is good I will maybe go back to it.

Stephen!
14-09-2010, 04:44 PM
With IE9, developers have a fully-hardware accelerated display pipeline that runs from their markup to the screen. Based on their blog posts, the hardware-accelerated implementations of other browsers generally accelerate one phase or the other, but not yet both. Delivering full hardware acceleration, on by default, is an architectural undertaking. When there is a desire to run across multiple platforms, developers introduce abstraction layers and inevitably make tradeoffs which ultimately impact performance and reduce the ability of a browser to achieve ‘native’ performance. Getting the full value of the GPU is extremely challenging and writing to intermediate layers and libraries instead of an operating system’s native support makes it even harder. Windows’ DirectX long legacy of powering of the most intensive 3D games has made DirectX the highest performance GPU-based rendering system available.

When you run other browsers that support hardware acceleration, you’ll notice that the performance on some of the examples from the IE Test Drive site is comparable to IE9 yet performance on other examples isn’t. The differences reflect the gap between full and partial hardware acceleration. As IE supports new, emerging Web standards, those implementations will also be fully hardware accelerated.

Hardware acceleration of HTML5 video is a great example. At MIX10, we showed the advantage of using hardware for video. In March, IE9 played two HD-encoded, 720p videos on a netbook using very little of the CPU while another browser maxed out the CPU while dropping frames playing only one of the videos. Because of full hardware acceleration of the entire pipeline, you experience great performance playing these videos while moving them around the page and styling and compositing them with opacity, using web standard markup.

I tried those tests on various other browsers. IE9 left those other browsers in the dust. Chrome, Firefox, Opera, Safari, etc. do not fully utilize the capabilities of the GPU like IE9. IE9 runs circles around other browsers in terms of GPU performance.

Interesting

Recursion
14-09-2010, 04:46 PM
You could say that about their Windows Vista though in your eyes. You hate Windows Vista so you going to automatically hate Windows 7 too? No it doesn't work like that. You have to give each version a try, if it's still crap like the older versions then fair enough but you haven't even tried it out yet.

To add on, people only disliked Vista because it was a change though, which funilly enough, no matter how much people complained carried through to W7 for the better.

Looking forward to IE9 personally, I'm hoping it'll be a huge improvement (it looks to be) and will be rolling it out throughout school when it comes out of BETA too.

TonyBest
14-09-2010, 06:21 PM
When its out in beta im going to download and test the difference between chrome, ie9 and even firefox to see which is fasterr. If IE9 is going to be faster then i might move back to it. but only if its faster

Stephen!
14-09-2010, 06:25 PM
Yeah, well don't judge it from the beta because, well it's beta.

TonyBest
14-09-2010, 06:41 PM
Yeah i know that, im not quick to judge just cuz a few bugs happen on the beta, like im already using Firefox 4.0 Beta 5 and its working fine

HotelUser
14-09-2010, 07:12 PM
You could say that about their Windows Vista though in your eyes. You hate Windows Vista so you going to automatically hate Windows 7 too? No it doesn't work like that. You have to give each version a try, if it's still crap like the older versions then fair enough but you haven't even tried it out yet.

Good point I suppose. I just have an incredibly hard time thinking they will fix their horrible browser. But if they do it would make my job a lot easier :P

TonyBest
15-09-2010, 11:29 AM
The beta will be available to download later today

Stephen!
15-09-2010, 12:20 PM
It's expected to be released at around half 6 tonight, GMT.

TonyBest
15-09-2010, 01:27 PM
Yeah hopefully around that time, if not then im sure itll be out before Midnight :P

Dean
15-09-2010, 01:36 PM
Maybe it should say

"get ready for a more beautiful, unsafer web"

Slowpoke
15-09-2010, 01:45 PM
Been with FF ever since IE6 was released so quite a while now. I doubt I'll ever switch back but it'll be interesting to see what changes they're implementing.

Agnostic Bear
15-09-2010, 01:46 PM
Maybe it should say

"get ready for a more beautiful, unsafer web"

How incredibly small-minded of you. IE only has the appearance of being the least secure browser because more people use it and more people target it. Look at firefox, they now have their fair share of bugs and exploits now they have a decent amount of users.

I think you should take more time to consider why you dislike IE, I'm sure you'll find a lot fewer reasons than you originally thought.

To the rest hating on IE: Microsoft have changed from the days where they just threw out any old thing, they now consider their user-base and emerging technologies (Not in every case, but a vast improvement from the days of old). If you're still basing it on the old days then you should grow up and get a clue.

Anyway enough of the small-minded people.

I shall definitely be trying the beta and look forward to using it soon. From the previews it's going to be a rather fabulous browser and I'm looking forward to seeing what they've done with the UI.

- Posted from my Windows PC running Windows 7 & Google Chrome.

Moh
15-09-2010, 02:31 PM
I'm going to give it a try, but I will never use it as my default browser.

xxMATTGxx
15-09-2010, 05:14 PM
I found this link on Neowin for downloading it:

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/internet-explorer/download/ie-9/worldwide

GommeInc
15-09-2010, 05:25 PM
It'll be interesting if/when people start using it as their main browser :P It's one of those things you do not really expect, seeing as it's always been seen as a shipped-with product that people would rather replace as soon as they get it, with Firefox, Chrome or another browser. Microsoft and/or Windows seem to be doing a good job lately, with Microsoft Security Essentials and Windows 7 coming out better than expected, and Internet Explorer 9 looks to out do itself too,

Stephen!
15-09-2010, 06:07 PM
Fail, it won't let me load up any of the browser benchmark sites lol.

HotelUser
15-09-2010, 06:12 PM
How incredibly small-minded of you. IE only has the appearance of being the least secure browser because more people use it and more people target it. Look at firefox, they now have their fair share of bugs and exploits now they have a decent amount of users.

I think you should take more time to consider why you dislike IE, I'm sure you'll find a lot fewer reasons than you originally thought.

To the rest hating on IE: Microsoft have changed from the days where they just threw out any old thing, they now consider their user-base and emerging technologies (Not in every case, but a vast improvement from the days of old). If you're still basing it on the old days then you should grow up and get a clue.

Anyway enough of the small-minded people.

I shall definitely be trying the beta and look forward to using it soon. From the previews it's going to be a rather fabulous browser and I'm looking forward to seeing what they've done with the UI.

- Posted from my Windows PC running Windows 7 & Google Chrome.

If it plays more nicely with my CSS then I shall be a happy camper. I will wait for it to come out before I love or hate it. Admittedly I am a bit over critical about IE because of my experience with it in the past mind.

Sent from my Nexus One sporting Android 2.2 with Chrome :P

Stephen!
15-09-2010, 06:24 PM
Just done a benchmark

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/4190064/img/Computer/Capture.png

xxMATTGxx
15-09-2010, 08:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9dhnKS_oos

^ Pretty nice promo video.



I thought it was quite funny when it was first installed that it opened fine, fast, no problems what so ever. Then when I opened my Firefox 4.0 Beta 5 it opened and then went into one of it's "Not Responding" modes.

TonyBest
15-09-2010, 08:58 PM
It failed to install twice on my laptop, and im running windows 7. (Also you should update firefox to 4.0 beta 6)

Recursion
15-09-2010, 09:02 PM
Running fine and dandy, installed first time here. Lovin' it so far.

xxMATTGxx
15-09-2010, 09:15 PM
It failed to install twice on my laptop, and im running windows 7. (Also you should update firefox to 4.0 beta 6)

I already have done, no need to worry. I got a message saying to make sure one of my services was running when I first downloaded/tried to install IE9 from Firefox, I restarted that service and still wouldn't let me install IE. Although I decided to go and download it via Chrome, then I had to install a few Windows updates but installed fine afterwards really.

HotelUser
15-09-2010, 10:47 PM
I can't install it as I need to keep the older version of IE for debugging purposes sadly.

So overall does it compare well with Chrome and Firefox?

Recursion
16-09-2010, 06:30 AM
I can't install it as I need to keep the older version of IE for debugging purposes sadly.

So overall does it compare well with Chrome and Firefox?

So far I'm impressed, it loads quicker than Chrome or FF and webpages are rendered beautifully!

TonyBest
16-09-2010, 10:52 AM
I already have done, no need to worry. I got a message saying to make sure one of my services was running when I first downloaded/tried to install IE9 from Firefox, I restarted that service and still wouldn't let me install IE. Although I decided to go and download it via Chrome, then I had to install a few Windows updates but installed fine afterwards really.

Thing is though ive installed every windows update, ive checked what version of windows 7 i got to make sure im downloading the right one, but once the installation is done and i have to restart the laptop, it says Failed to Configure Windows at 97% every time restarting the laptop without the update

HotelUser
16-09-2010, 11:26 AM
So far I'm impressed, it loads quicker than Chrome or FF and webpages are rendered beautifully!

Good to hear! Do you happen to know if border-radius works with it? And if it's playing nice with CSS3 and everything?

AgnesIO
16-09-2010, 04:00 PM
Review by engadget:

http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/internet-explorer-9-beta-review/

Further down the review they have some interesting stats and graphs of tests they did on speed etc

TonyBest
16-09-2010, 08:04 PM
Tried reinstalling it again but still doesnt want to install, same error as before

Failure configuring updates
Reverting Changes
Please do not turn off this computer

xxMATTGxx
16-09-2010, 08:06 PM
Tried reinstalling it again but still doesnt want to install, same error as before

Failure configuring updates
Reverting Changes
Please do not turn off this computer

Whatever you have downloaded, make sure it's the correct one and not the wrong type. Example: X86 or X64.

Stephen!
17-09-2010, 08:36 AM
After I rebooted, it broke some of my gadgets :(

TonyBest
17-09-2010, 10:36 AM
Whatever you have downloaded, make sure it's the correct one and not the wrong type. Example: X86 or X64.

I chose the correct one but it still happens anyway. It also does this for other updates that need my laptop to restart to finish

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