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Stihl
14-10-2010, 05:18 PM
i am in the market for a new computer/laptop. i am either looking for an iMac (the 27 inch) model, or a new laptop. what do you reccomend, and why.

Apple
14-10-2010, 06:12 PM
It depends what you are like for cash. If you are loaded and a couple of grand won't put a hole in your wallet then get the Mac. If you just want something that gets the job done then go for the PC. No point in breaking your bank when you can get something that does the same job for much cheaper. With Apple being a luxurious brand you are paying what's known as the "Apple tax". So if cash isn't an issue, definitely the Mac.

matt$
14-10-2010, 06:14 PM
pc, paint it white and stick an apple logo onto it and save a grand :)

Suspective
14-10-2010, 06:15 PM
I'm a big PC user, but recently I have invested in a Mac. I have been impressed with the Mac.

iBlueBox
14-10-2010, 06:16 PM
Mac, Since I got mine at Christmas, I've loved it. But i'ld wait till after the Apple event on the 20th :)

Stihl
14-10-2010, 06:17 PM
hahah valid points. i am thinking about a mac regardless, because i know they're better in the long run (not getting virus' and such) plus im making my way up the ranks in becoming a professional photographer, so the editing program that comes with it would be awesome.

GommeInc
15-10-2010, 09:47 PM
hahah valid points. i am thinking about a mac regardless, because i know they're better in the long run (not getting virus' and such) plus im making my way up the ranks in becoming a professional photographer, so the editing program that comes with it would be awesome.
To be fair, that depends how careless you are (with regards to viruses) and you could probably get a PC and waste money on photoshop and be better off than the Mac and the photo program that comes pre-packaged. Depends what photography you do though, if it's light touching up then you won't need alot, but if you're doing alot of heavy photo editing, then photoshop on either a Mac or a PC would be a wiser option.

Recursion
15-10-2010, 10:33 PM
To be frank, both are complete ****.

Get Windows, save a ton of money and don't buy into a cult. Done.

But seriously, both are very similar nowadays, just use what you prefer, don't even listen to the guys above, go try Windows 7 out and try out Mac in stores, decide which you like best, ???, PROFIT!

Typed from my MacBook remote desktop'd into my Windows 7 PC.

GommeInc
15-10-2010, 10:49 PM
To be frank, both are complete ****.

Get Windows, save a ton of money and don't buy into a cult. Done.

But seriously, both are very similar nowadays, just use what you prefer, don't even listen to the guys above, go try Windows 7 out and try out Mac in stores, decide which you like best, ???, PROFIT!

Typed from my MacBook remote desktop'd into my Windows 7 PC.
You forgot to mention Linux in there somewhere, so for that reason your opinion is null and void :P

Probably best to wait for this Mac event to be over and done with, to make a decision.

Chippiewill
15-10-2010, 11:53 PM
Ahem, he meant DOS obviously, the best OS there ever was.


Gaming = PC
Media = Mac
UI = Neither, they're both pretty good now
General Web Browsing = Windows (Because why drop £1000 on a Macbook just to browse HxF when a £100 netbook will suffice for all web browsing needs)
Photoshop = Neither, there's no difference, that's the point. Except windows will be cheaper.
Best Design = Mac
Price = Windows

And that's all you ever need to know.

Also, choosing Mac because of viruses is stupider than stupid. It has the worst security out of most OSs, it's always the first to be hacked at hacking conferences and currently has only security through obscurity. Soon macs will hit critical mass and people will write FAR more viruses for mac and because there's no Mac AV they'll be effective.

Recursion
16-10-2010, 03:14 PM
Ahem, he meant DOS obviously, the best OS there ever was.



And that's all you ever need to know.

Also, choosing Mac because of viruses is stupider than stupid. It has the worst security out of most OSs, it's always the first to be hacked at hacking conferences and currently has only security through obscurity. Soon macs will hit critical mass and people will write FAR more viruses for mac and because there's no Mac AV they'll be effective.

Photoshop was originally designed for PC and then ported to Mac so rly PC should be +1 on that one but hey ho! :P

HotelUser
16-10-2010, 03:40 PM
Photoshop was originally designed for PC and then ported to Mac so rly PC should be +1 on that one but hey ho! :P

Really? You know what I never understood? A few years ago people used to say Macs are better for designers. I have owned my iMac for two years and to this day see no truth to this :P

Recursion
16-10-2010, 04:25 PM
Really? You know what I never understood? A few years ago people used to say Macs are better for designers. I have owned my iMac for two years and to this day see no truth to this :P

Can't beat Final Cut Pro for pro video editing I suppose :P

Boonzeet
16-10-2010, 04:51 PM
To be fair, that depends how careless you are (with regards to viruses) and you could probably get a PC and waste money on photoshop and be better off than the Mac and the photo program that comes pre-packaged. Depends what photography you do though, if it's light touching up then you won't need alot, but if you're doing alot of heavy photo editing, then photoshop on either a Mac or a PC would be a wiser option.

lol buying photoshop


Photoshop was originally designed for PC and then ported to Mac so rly PC should be +1 on that one but hey ho! :P

but now it's built on Mac OS X

To be honest, the Mac's interface is a lot more glamourous and smooth than Windows 7. Text rendering (on large fonts) is generally more beautiful, although readability on tiny fonts is pretty difficult.

Also, my Macbook Pro that I'm on at the moment has a 78% battery health and is still going strong after 2 years, whereas my dell 17" studio is an unusable brick after 2 years.

Also, dropping my dell just once from a low height broke the screen, whereas the aluminium mac has taken a serious beating.

When people say macs are ridiculously over priced, it's not really that bad anymore - a 27" iMac made of solid metal and all the guts in the screen is more expensive, but of better quality and longer-lasting than a cheap plastic tower with a cheap plastic monitor.

Also, generally speaking the image quality of a mac display is so much better than most monitors.

Chippiewill
16-10-2010, 05:17 PM
Also, dropping my dell just once from a low height broke the screen, whereas the aluminium mac has taken a serious beating.

You can't expect a laptop to stay intact when dropping it, sure it's nice when it does but Mac or Windows screens are fragile. Also, my Dell which I have abused so much to this day still works after three and a half years.


But of better quality and longer-lasting than a cheap plastic tower with a cheap plastic monitor.
My three year old plastic monitor and tower still works very fast tyvm. The metal edging doesn't make it work any better and does not prevent it from breaking.


To be honest, the Mac's interface is a lot more glamourous and smooth than Windows 7. Text rendering (on large fonts) is generally more beautiful, although readability on tiny fonts is pretty difficult.
I see no difference for Photoshop and Text Rendering on the Mac is a result of displaying the font wrong. The Windows 7 interface far surpasses that of Mac OSX, I cannot live without Aero snap any more.


iMac made of solid metal
Hardly, I doubt that a computer made of solid metal works very well and is probably lethal if a wire becomes loose.


To be fair, that depends how careless you are (with regards to viruses) and you could probably get a PC and waste money on photoshop and be better off than the Mac and the photo program that comes pre-packaged. Depends what photography you do though, if it's light touching up then you won't need alot, but if you're doing alot of heavy photo editing, then photoshop on either a Mac or a PC would be a wiser option.
there are loads of Windows alternatives for light touch ups such as Elements, Picasa etc.

Apple
16-10-2010, 05:24 PM
lol buying photoshop



but now it's built on Mac OS X

To be honest, the Mac's interface is a lot more glamourous and smooth than Windows 7. Text rendering (on large fonts) is generally more beautiful, although readability on tiny fonts is pretty difficult.

Also, my Macbook Pro that I'm on at the moment has a 78% battery health and is still going strong after 2 years, whereas my dell 17" studio is an unusable brick after 2 years.

Also, dropping my dell just once from a low height broke the screen, whereas the aluminium mac has taken a serious beating.

When people say macs are ridiculously over priced, it's not really that bad anymore - a 27" iMac made of solid metal and all the guts in the screen is more expensive, but of better quality and longer-lasting than a cheap plastic tower with a cheap plastic monitor.

Also, generally speaking the image quality of a mac display is so much better than most monitors.

Agree with this, couldn't of said it any better. It's great to be able to use my mac as a monitor for my PS3 (albeit you have to buy an adapter). Extremely clear screen in HD so makes a perfect gaming screen.

hairpins
16-10-2010, 06:05 PM
once eye went MAC i neva went bk
get 1

Edited by Recursion (Forum Super Moderator): Please avoid pointlessly posting.

mb-group.net
16-10-2010, 06:34 PM
I've got a Mac and a PC and my intention was firstly to switch to the Mac because of the positive reviews I have read about it. I promptly didn't like it and switched back to my older PC after a few days. Don't get me wrong, I like the Mac but I find for general use and multitasking I much prefer the PC.

In a nutshell, get a Mac if you want to use applications only available for the mac like Final Cut (although I prefer Sony Vegas. I've tried Final Cut and don't find it intuitive at all) but if you use your computer for multiple things at once, go for the PC. Also, Windows 7 Media Center is pretty awesome as a DVR.

GommeInc
16-10-2010, 10:16 PM
lol buying photoshop
I was trying to avoid being naughty and suggesting he just downloads it, edits a few files in some folders and then use a keygen :P

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