Staff Forums

[AgnesIO]

This came up in another thread soo..

Personally I think staff forums should be cut down on, or some of the threads should be stopped.

For example, I know the staff has a 'Staff Discuss Anything' forum - I cannot see how this helps the forum at all, when many of the posts can be posted on the PUBLIC forums, which in turn ups activity.

Further more, some of the 'staff spam threads' are huge - with one of them (the RV one) having like 40,000 posts (that was over a year ago..). I know many of these are rare value reports (the original posts in the thread), but I know the majority of the posts there are all from the staff posting. Although this could be argued to be good for staff bonding, personally i do not feel it helps the forum activity at all.

Next, many staff still do not post in the public forums enough. If even staff are not getting engaged in the community (and it doesn't matter if you are a community staff member ot not, you should still be getting involved on the forum), why on earth would normal members? I know staff will moan about this, but are a lot of the staff forums/spam threads needed? All they seem to do is put the forum activity down - I know this from personal experience, and when you have the staff forums there you do end up posting far more in those, than on the actual forum. Personally I think it would be better to 'encourage' (tell staff they have to post) staff to post more in the public forums. As in my opinion, the first people to go to to help increase forum activity is your staff.

Opinions?

[Tintinnabulate]

one of them is dead. the official one

[rnix]

I don't think this is a concern for non staff members :L edit: i understand your points now :P
But personally i post majority in the normal forums and not in the staff spam threads.
There are a few which don't post in the main forums but this is their own decision.

[AgnesIO]

I don't think this is a concern for non staff members :L
But personally i post majority in the normal forums and not in the staff spam threads.
There are a few which don't post in the main forums but this is their own decision.

Don't be so bloody ignorant. Apparently you have no concern about the activity on the forum, and since you have been on the forum since 2006, I would have thought you would have seen the massive decline in posting.

It isn't about being staff or not - you don't have to be staff to want the forum activity to rise :S


one of them is dead. the official one

Well then, the forum needs speeding up. Apparently it isn't needed?

[xxMATTGxx]

I'm 50/50 in regards of the staff spam threads really, I know some departments have an ideal and small sized spam thread that is quite suitable for them for bonding/whatever reasons. Then other departments have these big massive spam threads that have like xx,xxx amount of replies that I don't feel do anything good for the department in terms of bonding and so on, I think it might be due to what actually gets posted in them compared to others really.

"Staff Discuss Anything" doesn't do much at all because anything Habbox related has to be posted in the other forum either way. Most of what gets posted in there is topics from Ex-General Management and current staff discussing and posting random stuff.

[Inseriousity.]

There have been many 'please post more around the forum' threads. Personally, I don't think removing spam threads will increase staff posting in the main forum. It'll just make a lot more spam threads in the department staff forum. Staff are members too and post in the main forum when they want to/find an interesting thread to post in. If it's never, maybe it's not a case of looking at the problems in the staff forums but looking at the problems within the main forum instead.

[rnix]

Don't be so bloody ignorant. Apparently you have no concern about the activity on the forum, and since you have been on the forum since 2006, I would have thought you would have seen the massive decline in posting.

It isn't about being staff or not - you don't have to be staff to want the forum activity to rise :S?


I wasn't being ignorant, i do have concern for the posting but myself i post more in general then the staff forums as there is much more discussion there.
And another reason some staff don't post in general is maybe because they don't like posting in non-staff forums (maybe not at all) like when i returned to the forum i didn't like posting in many threads (esp spam) because i didn't know anyone.

But this is just my opinion.

[AgnesIO]

I'm 50/50 in regards of the staff spam threads really, I know some departments have an ideal and small sized spam thread that is quite suitable for them for bonding/whatever reasons. Then other departments have these big massive spam threads that have like xx,xxx amount of replies that I don't feel do anything good for the department in terms of bonding and so on, I think it might be due to what actually gets posted in them compared to others really.

"Staff Discuss Anything" doesn't do much at all because anything Habbox related has to be posted in the other forum either way. Most of what gets posted in there is topics from Ex-General Management and current staff discussing and posting random stuff.

Surely the random stuff could go in the normal spam section then? I don't see why an extra forum is needed - I remember when I was staff just as an RV reporter (an example) there were like 4/5 forums I could see if I remember rightly - only two of them meant anything at all - that being the habbox bit (discussion about hx only), and obviously the rv bit to report values. I didn't need the spam thread - I only used it because it was there - not because I preferred it to the normal forums.

[Chippiewill]

Is it possible to set a post limit per day on specific forums, say 15-25 posts per day on the staff discuss anything forum.

[AgnesIO]

I wasn't being ignorant, i do have concern for the posting but myself i post more in general then the staff forums as there is much more discussion there.
And another reason some staff don't post in general is maybe because they don't like posting in non-staff forums (maybe not at all) like when i returned to the forum i didn't like posting in many threads (esp spam) because i didn't know anyone.

But this is just my opinion.

IMO though if you are staff you should interact with other users, not block them out.

[Hecktix]

I think we could probably do away with "Talk about anything" since ex-staff get the ex staff forums but I suppose it is nice for them to communicate with staff, in all fairness it hardly gets posted in anyway to be fair.

In terms of spam threads I'm with Matt, it is good for bonding although it doesnt do the forum any good. I was just chatting with Roxy about alternative staff bonding methods which I think are plausible, to be honest I think you can get better bonding than a thread. I know HabboxLive used to (perhaps they still do??) do bonding every so often via Skype and play games on OMGPOP or whatever it is.

The only thing is I know a lot of staff wouldn't like this and I quite like my head, and I would probably be decapitated unless they all accepted my views - which is never gonna happen. If Managers and Departments are willing to bare with me on a 30 day trial without spam threads but using alternative bonding methods, I'd be willing to run that trial.

[rnix]

Another point i will add is that you can dicuss the department in spam threads, sometimes there is no point in making a new thread

[Hecktix]

There have been many 'please post more around the forum' threads. Personally, I don't think removing spam threads will increase staff posting in the main forum. It'll just make a lot more spam threads in the department staff forum. Staff are members too and post in the main forum when they want to/find an interesting thread to post in. If it's never, maybe it's not a case of looking at the problems in the staff forums but looking at the problems within the main forum instead.

To be fair, Mike - most people on the main forum find somewhere to post.. there's always been a lack of staff posting.

[Mr-Trainor]

I personally do not see a problem with spam threads. Not only are they essential for staff bonding and familiarisation with the department and its staff but they also act as a discussing thread for department related discussions. An example of this might be the RV manager telling RV staff to watch out on throne values or a trailist comps staff asking the rest of the department to give feedback on his/her first competition. Department spam threads are not always complete spam and can sometimes be general discussion.

As for the rv spam thread, there is a lot of posts but a lot of this is made up of old reports. Also, it is not posted in much at the moment because of the current low level of staff.

[Mathew]

To be perfectly honest, the two main staff forums don't get that many posts at all so there is no problem there. Obviously I can't speak for other departments but none of the sections I can see are being abused by staff.

I do think a lot more of the staff should post around the forum though - there's 28 HxL DJ's sat there and it's rare I see posts by some of them. I think the problem needs addressing to the individual staff members rather than staff as a whole. It's easy to ignore the warning if it's a quick note in a staff forum.

[AgnesIO]

I think we could probably do away with "Talk about anything" since ex-staff get the ex staff forums but I suppose it is nice for them to communicate with staff, in all fairness it hardly gets posted in anyway to be fair.

In terms of spam threads I'm with Matt, it is good for bonding although it doesnt do the forum any good. I was just chatting with Roxy about alternative staff bonding methods which I think are plausible, to be honest I think you can get better bonding than a thread. I know HabboxLive used to (perhaps they still do??) do bonding every so often via Skype and play games on OMGPOP or whatever it is.

The only thing is I know a lot of staff wouldn't like this and I quite like my head, and I would probably be decapitated unless they all accepted my views - which is never gonna happen. If Managers and Departments are willing to bare with me on a 30 day trial without spam threads but using alternative bonding methods, I'd be willing to run that trial.

I think the question is, can managers be bothered? I mean certain managers seem to think they do more work than David Cameron - although I know Elle was always up for some fun within a department (bonding via ff, bingo etc)

I know the ex-staff bit is for ex managers and stuff - but if they are ex they shouldn't really have any extra staff forums surely?


Another point i will add is that you can dicuss the department in spam threads, sometimes there is no point in making a new thread

Can't remember what the events thread was like, but much of the rv one was 'bored' 'hi dom' 'i hate my school sometimes'

[Storking]

Removing the spam threads is just a ridiculous idea sorry, it's a place for staff to talk about things that don't require a whole thread. The HxHD one is quite useful for this as there are little things to do with the job that are talked about there sometimes! :)

Personally, removing the spam threads and borderline forcing staff to post in the public forums is not a good move to make.. lol.

[AgnesIO]

Removing the spam threads is just a ridiculous idea sorry, it's a place for staff to talk about things that don't require a whole thread. The HxHD one is quite useful for this as there are little things to do with the job that are talked about there sometimes! :)

Personally, removing the spam threads and borderline forcing staff to post in the public forums is not a good move to make.. lol.

Ok I will keep watching hxf lose members due to low activity. Touché

Staff should be posting, simple lol

[Inseriousity.]

To be fair, Mike - most people on the main forum find somewhere to post.. there's always been a lack of staff posting.

There has (allegedly) been a posting decrease across the board. Removing staff spam threads will not suddenly result in an increase imo. Most people on the main forum are here to post/have discussions whereas most staff are here to do a job which is why I don't think staff will think 'oh no spam threads, I'll just venture out into the main forum then and find somewhere to post' cos that's not their main use of the forum in the first place.

[Mathew]

Is it possible to set a post limit per day on specific forums, say 15-25 posts per day on the staff discuss anything forum.
You'd be lucky if I did 1 post a month in the staff discussing anything section; and the same goes for a lot of people. People don't realise how little that specific section is used.. :P

[Sarah]

I'm a bit on the fence here. I know that personally I would only know the people in the Forum department through spam (I didn't know them before Habbox) and it is just a nice way to chat and to get to know them - and I know that it is a nice way to talk and welcome new people into the department. However It would be so much more nicer to see staff posting more in public forums - but the argument is they either post in Staff spam and not in public or not at all. I think a trial period would be ok as long as feedback can be given to General Management from departments.

[AgnesIO]

There has (allegedly) been a posting decrease across the board. Removing staff spam threads will not suddenly result in an increase imo. Most people on the main forum are here to post/have discussions whereas most staff are here to do a job which is why I don't think staff will think 'oh no spam threads, I'll just venture out into the main forum then and find somewhere to post' cos that's not their main use of the forum in the first place.

If they are here to do the job, then they don't want the spam forums either?

Obviously it won't cause a sudden increase, but any increase is good surely? Especially community departments - they should be bonding with members.

I am not saying they should post more than FlyingJesus (had to use you haha), but they should be posting lol

[Hecktix]

There has (allegedly) been a posting decrease across the board. Removing staff spam threads will not suddenly result in an increase imo. Most people on the main forum are here to post/have discussions whereas most staff are here to do a job which is why I don't think staff will think 'oh no spam threads, I'll just venture out into the main forum then and find somewhere to post' cos that's not their main use of the forum in the first place.

It's not about increasing overall posting it's about increasing staff posting and staff presence on the main forum, it's a very hard task to taclke to get certain staff members posting but the thing is a lot of them need to give it a chance. I was talking about removing spam threads as an incentive and then putting them back if staff started posting although I feel that may be way too authoritarian.

[xxMATTGxx]

I think the question is, can managers be bothered? I mean certain managers seem to think they do more work than David Cameron - although I know Elle was always up for some fun within a department (bonding via ff, bingo etc)


I guess that depends on the person if they can be bothered and if they are able to spare some free time. I know certain departments have always been up for some omgpop or even when members of the Forum Department all went on transformice which got us all chatting within the game to work in a team to achieve the level. Which is ideal for any department, but obviously that can't happen all the time and does rely on people being free, wanting to do it and so on.

[Inseriousity.]

Any increase is good yeah, I was questioning whether there'd actually be one.
Of course they should be posting but unless we log on their account and go posting round the forum for them, I don't think removing spam threads will make much of a difference.

[AgnesIO]

Any increase is good yeah, I was questioning whether there'd actually be one.
Of course they should be posting but unless we log on their account and go posting round the forum for them, I don't think removing spam threads will make much of a difference.

Perhaps a staff requirement of 'Post actively around the forum' - I am sure this used to be one for some departments? Then you could have three strikes and you're out?

I know it seems harsh, but it isn't right for management to try and get more activity with users etc - if the staff aren't eve posting.

I am not trying to attack management here - but you guys are the people who I have to use as the example :P

[Martin]

Staff spam threads have been around for years, and I don't think they've really done any harm up until now. As others have said, yes it would be nice for all staff to post lots and lots outside their staff forums, however I think that for a department to work together in the best way possible, it's essential that we are able to talk freely to our fellow staff in individual departments. There will often be department specific stuff in them anyway.

I think also, (although I can only see three), it isn't a huge amount of posts that we're talking about anyway. Perhaps 20 a day, which isn't really that much really.

I think alternative methods of getting people to join the forum/post on the forum/enjoy the forum need to be looked into first, rather than changing something which has been with the staff forums for many years, enables departments to feel more laid back and like a unit, rather than just work work work. If it wasn't for staff spam threads I wouldn't have made some of the amazing friends I have on here.

You could argue that people could simply use the main spam forums instead, but I just feel it's a lot easier and nicer to spam in your departmental group, since main spam threads often get 'hijacked' by other members and it's just not as 'cosy' I guess I'm struggling to find the right words there.

I agree with Michael that if you remove staff spam threads, I don't think it would definitely mean people would get out there posting, it will just reduce the amount of bonding and communication within departments.

[Hecktix]

Perhaps a staff requirement of 'Post actively around the forum' - I am sure this used to be one for some departments? Then you could have three strikes and you're out?

I know it seems harsh, but it isn't right for management to try and get more activity with users etc - if the staff aren't eve posting.

I am not trying to attack management here - but you guys are the people who I have to use as the example :P

It's in most staff rules, hard one to crack down on mind.

[xxMATTGxx]

Perhaps a staff requirement of 'Post actively around the forum' - I am sure this used to be one for some departments? Then you could have three strikes and you're out?

I know it seems harsh, but it isn't right for management to try and get more activity with users etc - if the staff aren't eve posting.

I am not trying to attack management here - but you guys are the people who I have to use as the example :P

I know when Oli was Forum Manager he had some sort of "Make X amount of posts on the forum" or something which got the moderators on the forum posting until they got to that number or even higher. I forgot fully what it was, I know staff members posting around the forum is a problem and has been for a while but three strikes and getting rid of a very good staff member who do their roles apart from posting enough on the forum sounds a bit too harsh too me.

[Sammeth.]

To be fair I don't ever remember the amount of staff forums being an issue. The problem is that staff need to post publicly, as you did also outline in your first post, but which should be the main thing here. The staff spam threads in each departments forum do serve a small purpose, but they certainly shouldn't be a main attraction for staff members. More effort needs to be put in by the staff workforce as a whole to post more actively around the forum rather than lingering where no one can see them. Its almost a sort of elitist view. Encouraging staff to post more in public forums can only be a positive thing for the community, reputation of the forum as a whole and quality of discussions.

Edit: Sorry if I repeated anything someone else has already said, I now have a habit of skim-reading these threads now I dont have to read every post :(

[Hecktix]

It was 60 posts a week Matt, couple of them hated me for it but in the case of moderators they should most definitely be posting 10 times a day :P

[Richie]

They'll never do this, they like to have their own 'comfort zone'. I'm pretty sure if we blocked staff out of the public spam forum because we want to bond with 'non staff members' we would get in ****.

[AgnesIO]

Staff spam threads have been around for years, and I don't think they've really done any harm up until now. As others have said, yes it would be nice for all staff to post lots and lots outside their staff forums, however I think that for a department to work together in the best way possible, it's essential that we are able to talk freely to our fellow staff in individual departments. There will often be department specific stuff in them anyway.

I think also, (although I can only see three), it isn't a huge amount of posts that we're talking about anyway. Perhaps 20 a day, which isn't really that much really.

I think alternative methods of getting people to join the forum/post on the forum/enjoy the forum need to be looked into first, rather than changing something which has been with the staff forums for many years, enables departments to feel more laid back and like a unit, rather than just work work work. If it wasn't for staff spam threads I wouldn't have made some of the amazing friends I have on here.

You could argue that people could simply use the main spam forums instead, but I just feel it's a lot easier and nicer to spam in your departmental group, since main spam threads often get 'hijacked' by other members and it's just not as 'cosy' I guess I'm struggling to find the right words there.

I agree with Michael that if you remove staff spam threads, I don't think it would definitely mean people would get out there posting, it will just reduce the amount of bonding and communication within departments.

I know they have been around for years, but when posting is low, I think anything is worth at least trialling (although I imagine staff would just not post more for the trial to get their own way (which anyone would do to be fair)). If I think of any 'better' ideas I will obviously post them, but as I have said many times, if staff are not bonding with the forum members, then who do you want to post?


It's in most staff rules, hard one to crack down on mind.

I totally understand this Oli, oh sorry Hecktix, perhaps a reminder private message to the departmental managers - there is no need to put a strain on yourself - the departmental managers should sort their staff out too!

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Credit to all the department managers and upper management as they do post a lot, despite doing more work than all the 'normal' staff - I guess there is always a reason why you get to those positions. Perhaps posting does help.. (hint to the people who resigned just because they didn't get the job they wanted :P)

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To be fair I don't ever remember the amount of staff forums being an issue. The problem is that staff need to post publicly, as you did also outline in your first post, but which should be the main thing here. The staff spam threads in each departments forum do serve a small purpose, but they certainly shouldn't be a main attraction for staff members. More effort needs to be put in by the staff workforce as a whole to post more actively around the forum rather than lingering where no one can see them. Its almost a sort of elitist view. Encouraging staff to post more in public forums can only be a positive thing for the community, reputation of the forum as a whole and quality of discussions.

Edit: Sorry if I repeated anything someone else has already said, I now have a habit of skim-reading these threads now I dont have to read every post :(

It's Oli's fault again! In the other thread he originally said there were '30' forums - so I just mentioned there are too many in here - although he did clear it up that is was a bit of an exaggeration haha


They'll never do this, they like to have their own 'comfort zone'. I'm pretty sure if we blocked staff out of the public spam forum because we want to bond with 'non staff members' we would get in ****.

That would actually be quite fun, although I don't think putting staff down like you did in the first bit is very fair. But the non-staff spam sounds funny haha

[Martin]

I guess you also have to remember that some departments aren't always forum based. We have a site too, and some departments work to provide and promote content on there.

Take News reporters, when people apply to be a news reporter, they apply to write news/articles for the site. Yes, they may have to have a forum account for department reasons, however posting around the forum has nothing to do with their job role that they signed up to do. There may be a habbo player interested in writing news, but not interested in forums/disussing topics- they should still be given the chance to do this.

I know the forum is the backbone of habbox so to speak, and I do encourage my staff to post around the forums, however sometimes activity is low enough as it is without them using up time which could be spent writing articles etc.

I could argue that comments on news articles are low, and take away the habboxlive radio until all of the listeners comment on my articles, (I joke) however I guess there is just a line between different departments.


Is it a problem? Yes, we need to get the normal forums more active yes, but in some departments there isn't an excessive amount of posts in the staff forum either, and I would rather establish a good form of communication with my staff, rather than hoping to catch up with them in the main spam forums etc.


The forum department (moderators) and a few other departments however should be posting frequently around the forum, and whilst a lot do, there are unfortunately some that don't. Oli's posting challenge did work quite well for a while, and it was a shame it ended and I guess things like this may be able to be tried again in the future.

It would be nice to continue to attract new members to the forum aswell, since the ratio from staff/members could be altered if we can get more members on board somehow.

I think perhaps if we want to get staff members posting around the forums, we need to drum home the fact to them that the site as a whole will struggle if we can't get things back up to standard again. I really do not think that removing staff spam threads will be the solution, and I just have a feeling that this could do more harm than good in some departments. It's not always the 'spamming element', but just somewhere where the department can work together as a team, help each other with problems, talk about life and enjoy part of their roles more.

[Calvin]

Not bothered going through the threads but if I'm right, most threads in the Staff section are pretty dead. Staff still post as much around the forum, and if management are going to force them to post around the forums when it isn't nothing to do with their job and wasn't part of the criteria then I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of members of staff resign.

You may aswell tell a HabboxLive DJ who has no clue about coding and technology THEY HAVE TO post around the technology forum.

[AgnesIO]

Not bothered going through the threads but if I'm right, most threads in the Staff section are pretty dead. Staff still post as much around the forum, and if management are going to force them to post around the forums when it isn't nothing to do with their job and wasn't part of the criteria then I wouldn't be suprised if a lot of members of staff resign.

I don't think forcing them to post would work, however sadly it is fact many staff rarely post at all. Some staff are brilliant at it, and the fact some of you give opinions in feedback threads says a lot.

Perhaps a new criteria on applications (obviously current staff members would be encouraged to post more, but if they didn't apply for that it is fair to be SLIGHTLY more lenient I think) should be to say 'You need to post actively around the forum.'

[Calvin]

I don't think forcing them to post would work, however sadly it is fact many staff rarely post at all. Some staff are brilliant at it, and the fact some of you give opinions in feedback threads says a lot.

Perhaps a new criteria on applications (obviously current staff members would be encouraged to post more, but if they didn't apply for that it is fair to be SLIGHTLY more lenient I think) should be to say 'You need to post actively around the forum.'That would make it sound like you have to be a forum addict and stay on the forum a lot which isn't required for most departments except the forum department.

[AgnesIO]

That would make it sound like you have to be a forum addict and stay on the forum a lot which isn't required for most departments except the forum department.

I don't think it does imo. Something along those lines should be used imo. You highlighted the problem there Calvin (am I right there? :P) The problem is staff know they have no reason or incentive to post.

[Hecktix]

When I was a noob and all staff posted I found it really interesting seeing all different types of staff around, when I was a News Reporter in the early days the interaction between the news team and the news and rumours forum community was awesome.

[Inseriousity.]

I don't think it does imo. Something along those lines should be used imo. You highlighted the problem there Calvin (am I right there? :P) The problem is staff know they have no reason or incentive to post.

Removing staff spam threads won't give them a reason or incentive to post either. ;)

[AgnesIO]

When I was a noob and all staff posted I found it really interesting seeing all different types of staff around, when I was a News Reporter in the early days the interaction between the news team and the news and rumours forum community was awesome.

When you were a noob?

It's true though - I used to love talking to staff, as a young new user you think of staff as really cool people (oh how naive we are when we are young :P). I was going to say - the news team should post in the habbo news bit more surely? :P

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Removing staff spam threads won't give them a reason or incentive to post either. ;)

If you can't post in the staff bit, you have to post somewhere.

[Martin]

When I was a noob and all staff posted I found it really interesting seeing all different types of staff around, when I was a News Reporter in the early days the interaction between the news team and the news and rumours forum community was awesome.

That happens on hffm where they post the news directly onto the forum etc. I agree though that the Habbo section in particular is one where news reporters would probably be best suited to post in.


the news team should post in the habbo news bit more surely? :P

Yeah I do agree. However there's nothing currently forcing reporters to post around that forum, and some of them aren't even into habbo, and are more entertainment/sports reporters etc. I do notice reporters posting there however and will try and persuade them to do this. I guess they do their part of the analysis of the habbo news when they write the article for the site with their opinions and try to gain comments/opinions from the reader etc.

[Inseriousity.]

If you can't post in the staff bit, you have to post somewhere.

That's my point though. No you don't.

[AgnesIO]

That's my point though. No you don't.

I didn't word that right.

If you have any interest in posting, and not just because it is exclusive to you, you will probably be post somewhere on the public forum.

Sorry I didn't mean to say 'you have to'

[Inseriousity.]

If you had an interest in posting, you'd probably post anyway regardless of the presence of a spam forum.

[AgnesIO]

If you had an interest in posting, you'd probably post anyway regardless of the presence of a spam forum.

As I have said - I know when I was staff, because the spam forum was there (and normally the thread that had been posted in last) I literally only posted in there. Every time I have been staff, my general activity on the public forums dropped, because I did not see the need to search different forums with the staff ones being at the top.

[GommeInc]

Have a Staff "Common Room" forum, for any staff related discussions that revolve around Habbox Staff, but a discuss anything forum should be removed as it serves no purpose, other than a staff version of an already existent forum.

[Inseriousity.]

All you'd really be doing though is renaming the forum as that's pretty much what happens in the discuss anything forum anyway tbh.

[-Danube-]

In regards to the RV Spam thread:

Yes it is huge, yes it does contribute greatly to staff bonding and i feel without it i would find it hard to keep my staff as a team. Closing the thread itself i doubt would benefit the forum what so ever, at the moment most of the conversation within the spam thread is nothing majorly constructive that you can make a thread about. Alot of it is just how you would talk to someone on msn etc just saying what they have done today and things like that. Other posts are just spams, like loads of random stuff posted one after each other so that the person can become number 1 poster in that thread (there's a little bit of competition between who is number 1 poster in the thread, which again i think contributes to staff bonding) I think there is a place for spam threads within department forums.

However, like you said about the 'Habbox Staff - Talk about Anything' some of the topics that come up could be posted within the forum and could contribute to a discussion. Rather than closing it down altogether i think that maybe it should be more strictly moderated, any thread that should be in a public section should be moved there and after staff time members will start to post in the correct location.

But ATM i think there is a need for such forums as it aids with bonding between staff in different department which makes us act like more of a team. But i do agree that because a large chunk of the forum are staff members, we need to start stimulating more discussions outside of the staff forums.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Our department has a staff thread and has done since before 2006 - I really cannot see any problem in regards to them, other than nit-picking. If we are going to regulate and create rules regarding staff spam threads, well that says it all really.


Surely the random stuff could go in the normal spam section then? I don't see why an extra forum is needed - I remember when I was staff just as an RV reporter (an example) there were like 4/5 forums I could see if I remember rightly - only two of them meant anything at all - that being the habbox bit (discussion about hx only), and obviously the rv bit to report values. I didn't need the spam thread - I only used it because it was there - not because I preferred it to the normal forums.

..and i'd put it to you that it was nice to have been given that choice.

[AgnesIO]

Our department has a staff thread and has done since before 2006 - I really cannot see any problem in regards to them, other than nit-picking. If we are going to regulate and create rules regarding staff spam threads, well that says it all really.



..and i'd put it to you that it was nice to have been given that choice.

It's not nitpicking, and if Habbox was still getting loads of posts I wouldn't have even posted this. Sorry that the RV department has the biggest spam thread - that is hardly my fault.

Do you have any better ideas to TRY to increase posting activity Dan? Oh wait.

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To the OTHER dan (-danube-) I will reply to you later, your post was really good and made some good points - so I want to take some time, which I don't have right now to reply :)

[myke]

trust me, the staff forums are nothing special and are as dead-er-er-er than the normal forum

[AgnesIO]

trust me, the staff forums are nothing special and are as dead-er-er-er than the normal forum

Trust me. I know what they are like. Are you suggesting some staff just don't post at all?

[Sammeth.]

the rv spam thread is so big because jake merged a lot of old threads into it also, its not just 40,000 posts of spam.

[AgnesIO]

the rv spam thread is so big because jake merged a lot of old threads into it also, its not just 40,000 posts of spam.

I know you said you just skim read now, however I did state that :) But there is still a lot of it.

Then again, it may have changed lately, I am just trying to help forum activity though..

[-:Undertaker:-]

It's not nitpicking, and if Habbox was still getting loads of posts I wouldn't have even posted this. Sorry that the RV department has the biggest spam thread - that is hardly my fault.

Do you have any better ideas to TRY to increase posting activity Dan? Oh wait.

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To the OTHER dan (-danube-) I will reply to you later, your post was really good and made some good points - so I want to take some time, which I don't have right now to reply :)


My idea has been and will continue to be that until we have a new main site, the forum and Habbox in general will continue to decline. If you want more posting activity then get more users - in order to get more users you need a site which will keep them coming back.

Imagine somebody who comes on Habbox.com for the first time, they are greeted with a sub-standard site and will have no reason or motivation to re-visit.

The past few months we've seen a number of issues being blamed for Habbox and its troubles, from Habbox Live to the Habbox Help Desk and in reality it all stems back to the site. I know the site is apparently being worked upon now which is good - but I still stand by the fact that it lays at the bottom of most of the problems on Habbox today.

[Inseriousity.]

In the comps spam thread, there's only been 9 posts today so far. Myke's right, they're not that active :D

[HotelUser]

I think the Habbox Staff forum and the talk about anything staff forum could be merged. Other than that I think even though the department specific forums aren't always crazily active they still do serve their purpose and help the department function as it must.


the rv spam thread is so big because jake merged a lot of old threads into it also, its not just 40,000 posts of spam.

Way to give me some ideas :D

[AgnesIO]

My idea has been and will continue to be that until we have a new main site, the forum and Habbox in general will continue to decline. If you want more posting activity then get more users - in order to get more users you need a site which will keep them coming back.

Imagine somebody who comes on Habbox.com for the first time, they are greeted with a sub-standard site and will have no reason or motivation to re-visit.

The past few months we've seen a number of issues being blamed for Habbox and its troubles, from Habbox Live to the Habbox Help Desk and in reality it all stems back to the site. I know the site is apparently being worked upon now which is good - but I still stand by the fact that it lays at the bottom of most of the problems on Habbox today.

Totally agree. The 'new website' does seem to be a lot of the same thing that happened with the rare values panel that took like 2 years to make (or more?) It's all when and good having the ideas, but ideas need to turn in to action.

[HotelUser]

Totally agree. The 'new website' does seem to be a lot of the same thing that happened with the rare values panel that took like 2 years to make (or more?) It's all when and good having the ideas, but ideas need to turn in to action.

It's currently being coded now actually. In the past work on the new version of the site has been piss poor because nobody bothered to work on it. That's not the case now though. It's beeing coded now although atmiddidly communication could improve between who's doing the coding and who should be helping and I'm working on that.

The only thing I'm coding right now is the site. I am quite busy with other things now which is why the need for a HxHD Assistant was necessary so that should give me more free time to focus on coding too. It's already functional though, a lot of tasty features just need to be added to it.

[AgnesIO]

It's currently being coded now actually :D

Talking about coding... cough

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I thought it was being finished in like june (that has gone by) haha

[HotelUser]

Talking about coding... cough

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I thought it was being finished in like june (that has gone by) haha

I decided to edit my post actually :P


It's currently being coded now actually. In the past work on the new version of the site has been piss poor because nobody bothered to work on it. That's not the case now though. It's beeing coded now although atmiddidly communication could improve between who's doing the coding and who should be helping and I'm working on that.

The only thing I'm coding right now is the site. I am quite busy with other things now which is why the need for a HxHD Assistant was necessary so that should give me more free time to focus on coding too. It's already functional though, a lot of tasty features just need to be added to it.

[-Danube-]

Totally agree. The 'new website' does seem to be a lot of the same thing that happened with the rare values panel that took like 2 years to make (or more?) It's all when and good having the ideas, but ideas need to turn in to action.

The RV panel took much much longer than 2 years, i think Dan (undertaker) was told he was getting a new panel the first time he was manager. But in the end, once we got Ryan (Blob) and then our other site coders things started moving and the panel got made in a matter of weeks.

Work has been slow on V6 up till now but i assure you work has now been started and the turn around will be fast i am sure, there is a full features list and spec which is being worked through.

A good thing about Habbox this year is the amazing team of site coders we have, back in 2008 when i was RV manager things took ages to get done but now we have such a good team of site coders everything gets done to how you want it and fast. :)

[Mrs.McCall]

I'm totally against the whole idea of forcing staff to post. We're told to try and remain active around the forum and, on the most part, we are. In terms of News Staff posting in the forums that include News I see where you're coming from but, in my opinion, if you want to see what I think about something... you can read my reports on the site and comment on them there. I'd more than happily engage in healthy debate on a News Report and I know other reporters would too.

The spam threads are fantastic and I first encountered it when I was Sammeth's assistant in Productions. It allowed the staff to gel, talk about their personal lives, and created a more 'family' feel. Taking this out would mean that staff would interact less (not everyone is on MSN 24/7) and make departments very clinical.