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Javac
16-10-2010, 09:18 PM
Well, i recently bought the Java book. I'm meant to read one section a day, but i Reid 4 today. But it seems the information isn't staying in my head, its like i'm not remembering!

What can i do? Need help! I tried reading Section 1 again, but i still couldn't remember.
Will it come to me, when i need to use? or do i just have a brain problem ;).

Edited by HotelUser (Forum Moderator): Thread moved from "Technology Discussion" as I feel it is more suited here.

Suspective
16-10-2010, 09:20 PM
Read over it slowly and maybe make notes?

Make sure your not tired to. I read far to fast, and end up having to re-read.

Javac
16-10-2010, 09:28 PM
Read over it slowly and maybe make notes?

Make sure your not tired to. I read far to fast, and end up having to re-read.

Sorry to be a noob, but what parts shall i take notes off? and should i read over again (Another 101 pages again)?

Swinkid
16-10-2010, 09:30 PM
When i started learning Java i got books from the library, as my mum is a library assistant and it just didnt stick into my head, so insted i watched vids by someone called the new boston.

Channel: http://www.youtube.com/thenewboston

I found him very useful, his tuts stay into my head very well and he's got more programming tuts such as C++ and Apple Coca or whatever it's called, the lanuguage you code Iphone Apps in.

He's got other things like building a computer (Old series, but hes making a new one) and things like Java Game Programming, which i think you shoud look into but im not sure if he's still doing that or not.

Cheers

EDIT: To find hte java tuts, click playlists on his channel and it should be under its own playlist.

Stephen
16-10-2010, 09:35 PM
does the book have stuff you have to actually do like activities, tests etc cos I can't learn anything without stuff that tests me on what I've learnt so far

Javac
16-10-2010, 09:37 PM
When i started learning Java i got books from the library, as my mum is a library assistant and it just didnt stick into my head, so insted i watched vids by someone called the new boston.

Channel: http://www.youtube.com/thenewboston

I found him very useful, his tuts stay into my head very well and he's got more programming tuts such as C++ and Apple Coca or whatever it's called, the lanuguage you code Iphone Apps in.

He's got other things like building a computer (Old series, but hes making a new one) and things like Java Game Programming, which i think you shoud look into but im not sure if he's still doing that or not.

Cheers

Thanks for the reply, but i would perfer the book, as my mum gave me £38 for this book yesterday. So i don't really want it to go to waste. +Rep though 2 both of you x

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does the book have stuff you have to actually do like activities, tests etc cos I can't learn anything without stuff that tests me on what I've learnt so far

It has one question test bit at end, which i keep getting 2/3 correct and some times task. +Rep xx

Trinity
16-10-2010, 09:39 PM
When i started learning Java i got books from the library, as my mum is a library assistant and it just didnt stick into my head, so insted i watched vids by someone called the new boston.

Channel: http://www.youtube.com/thenewboston

I found him very useful, his tuts stay into my head very well and he's got more programming tuts such as C++ and Apple Coca or whatever it's called, the lanuguage you code Iphone Apps in.

Much love for the fellow library assistants.

I think it's worth taking a look at the videos that Swinkid linked to, some people just can't learn from books but they can learn easily from videos or someone teaching them. I know I struggle to learn from books, I prefer a more practical approach.

I don't know which book you have, but if it has little tasks and stuff, repeat them over and over again without having to look at the book, and try changing them slightly and seeing if you can make it work.
When I'm learning a new language, I briefly read over the basics, then think of an extremely basic project to attempt and work out how to do it.

If you really want to stick with the book though, just do as it says, read one section a day. You're learning something new, don't try to rush it, your brain won't be able to handle it. Read one section at a time, then read through it again until you 100% understand it.

Javac
16-10-2010, 09:44 PM
Much love for the fellow library assistants.

I think it's worth taking a look at the videos that Swinkid linked to, some people just can't learn from books but they can learn easily from videos or someone teaching them. I know I struggle to learn from books, I prefer a more practical approach.

I don't know which book you have, but if it has little tasks and stuff, repeat them over and over again without having to look at the book, and try changing them slightly and seeing if you can make it work.
When I'm learning a new language, I briefly read over the basics, then think of an extremely basic project to attempt and work out how to do it.

If you really want to stick with the book though, just do as it says, read one section a day. You're learning something new, don't try to rush it, your brain won't be able to handle it. Read one section at a time, then read through it again until you 100% understand it.


Well thanks, this kinda did help. The book i have: SamsTeachYourself Java 6 - in 21 Days.

But ill try one section at a time, still have 1-2 years to master java before 6form :)

Trinity
16-10-2010, 10:04 PM
Well thanks, this kinda did help. The book i have: SamsTeachYourself Java 6 - in 21 Days.

But ill try one section at a time, still have 1-2 years to master java before 6form :)

I think I tried the Sams Teach Yourself PHP in 24 Hours book once, it was terrible.
1-2 years is plenty of time if you're willing to put the effort in, so by the time you get to sixth form you could be earning a bit of money on the side from java :)
The best resource that exists for learning isn't books, it's the internet, there are tutorials and guides out there for absolutely everything. Use the book if you want, but try doing some googling for stuff too, you might find it easier :)

Oo also, do you know any other programming languages? It might be worth learning a slightly easier one, so you can learn the basic ideas and steps to programming in an easier environment, then all you have to do is learn the syntax for java :)

Anywho, what sort of stuff are you interested in? Think of a basic project that involves a hobby/interest of yours and learn what you need to do that, post it in the design&dev section of the forum so people can give you tips on how to improve, bam, you'll be a java god in no time.


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Javac
16-10-2010, 10:17 PM
I think I tried the Sams Teach Yourself PHP in 24 Hours book once, it was terrible.
1-2 years is plenty of time if you're willing to put the effort in, so by the time you get to sixth form you could be earning a bit of money on the side from java :)
The best resource that exists for learning isn't books, it's the internet, there are tutorials and guides out there for absolutely everything. Use the book if you want, but try doing some googling for stuff too, you might find it easier :)

Oo also, do you know any other programming languages? It might be worth learning a slightly easier one, so you can learn the basic ideas and steps to programming in an easier environment, then all you have to do is learn the syntax for java :)

Anywho, what sort of stuff are you interested in? Think of a basic project that involves a hobby/interest of yours and learn what you need to do that, post it in the design&dev section of the forum so people can give you tips on how to improve, bam, you'll be a java god in no time.

I downloaded the PDF version befor buying, it was terrible i couldn't be assed to read.
I unfortantly don't know any other programming languages, im not too sure, could you give me like a project i could work on, like some ideas? Cheers big ears x

Trinity
16-10-2010, 10:30 PM
I downloaded the PDF version befor buying, it was terrible i couldn't be assed to read.
I unfortantly don't know any other programming languages, im not too sure, could you give me like a project i could work on, like some ideas? Cheers big ears x

Haha, so why buy it if you didn't like it?
I would try to give you ideas, but you didn't answer my question "what sort of stuff are you interested in?", I asked you for a reason :)
I've never tried to learn java myself though, so I may struggle to come up with ideas, but I can try :)

Javac
16-10-2010, 10:36 PM
Haha, so why buy it if you didn't like it?
I would try to give you ideas, but you didn't answer my question "what sort of stuff are you interested in?", I asked you for a reason :)
I've never tried to learn java myself though, so I may struggle to come up with ideas, but I can try :)

Oo, i just didn't like reading from a PDF, because i didn't have to read it. With a book i HAVE too read it, because i paid money for it, if you know what i mean.

And im interested in gaming?

Trinity
16-10-2010, 10:54 PM
Oo, i just didn't like reading from a PDF, because i didn't have to read it. With a book i HAVE too read it, because i paid money for it, if you know what i mean.

And im interested in gaming?

Yeah, I understand what you mean :)

Hmm first idea would be to read through stuff like this - http://www.javacooperation.gmxhome.de/TutorialStartEng.html to learn some stuff and then come up with your own idea for a simple game.
If you're more interested in console gaming, I believe there are methods of accessing information from xbox live and whatever the playstation alternative is called, so you could try pulling up some of that information and processing it somehow, like making interesting graphs or something (I'm not sure what information is available or what java is capable of).
Do some googling to see what other people choose to base their first java projects on and try some of their choices out :)

There are other people on this forum with java experience who would probably be much more help.

Zak
24-10-2010, 11:34 PM
A good book that I used when I first started at university was 'Objects First with Java' it's a book based on the free online IDE BlueJ (Google it, it's free!) it's easy reading and for complete beginners. There are tutorial exercises to do as well!.. That's how I understood the basics.

But to be honest I haven't learnt java in years... so you're not going to learn it in 21 days i'm afraid! It takes loads of time, dedication and practise!

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