How about we start sending out nicer PMs when we're being warned.

[Agnostic Bear]

I'm sure I need not point out that spamming the VIP calendar with pointless events recurring every day for an extended period of time is abusing your VIP features. I have now deleted them and I do not wish to see them replaced after this PM.

If you abuse your privileges once more in this way they will simply be removed.

I don't expect to be sent such condescending PMs.

If you want to say don't do it then do it in a more friendly way else I'm going to do it again just to piss you off. Except not this time because I feel it should be brought up here instead.

[Tintinnabulate]

I will post my reply here:


I am sorry but where is that in the rules? Also well done on "trying to be less strict" as per your post in my thread last week.

We have a bit on fun, use that to increase posting in spam and you just warn us. Well done Jamesy.
Hello Guys,

I'm sure I need not point out that spamming the VIP calendar with pointless events recurring every day for an extended period of time is abusing your VIP features. I have now deleted them and I do not wish to see them replaced after this PM.

If you abuse your privileges once more in this way they will simply be removed.

Thanks,
Jamesy

[Chippiewill]

I don't expect to be sent such condescending PMs.

If you want to say don't do it then do it in a more friendly way else I'm going to do it again just to piss you off. Except not this time because I feel it should be brought up here instead.

I see nothing wrong with it?

[The Don]

To be fair the 'Hello guys' at the start which you failed to include changes the context completly. Don't really see it as being rude tbh :s.

[Tintinnabulate]

Although I am still waiting for a reply from them.

[Alkaz]

Should you ever donate to Habbox, or become Habbox VIP you will warrant the following:
Habboxforum.com reserves the right to terminate/remove/transfer/modify/limit any or all parts of your subscription at any time without notice.
http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?faq=rules_main#faq_forum_terms_and_conditi ons

I guess you should be glad he didn't just remove your subscriptions. Bit silly of you both anyway.

[Chippiewill]

Although I am still waiting for a reply from them.

I believe that Jamesy has more things to to than answer your PMs the moment he receives them?

[Jamesy]

I will post my reply here:

I think you'll find it's very clearly written in the VIP rules: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=631620 or for those unable to see it:


3. Do not abuse the forum calendar by posting unnecessary content.

As for the PM it was a harsh PM because it's either a harsh PM or I remove your VIP immediately - now that would be called being strict.

[Chippiewill]

As for the PM it was a harsh PM because it's either a harsh PM or I remove your VIP immediately - now that would be called being strict.

Well that's a flawed argument, it could be a nice PM?

[Agnostic Bear]

HERP DERP I don't care that it's against the rules, that's not what I posted the thread for, it's the condescending PM that I care about.

[Chippiewill]

HERP DERP I don't care that it's against the rules, that's not what I posted the thread for, it's the condescending PM that I care about.


As for the PM it was a harsh PM because it's either a harsh PM or I remove your VIP immediately - now that would be called being strict.

He answered that as well I believe?

[Jamesy]

Well that's a flawed argument, it could be a nice PM?

PM severity is ultimately down to whether the users simply made a mistake, didn't know the rules or anything like this. As these two were well aware of the rules and the reprocussions I thought it appropriate to make it clear. I don't think it's particularly rude, it's simply a pm without me adding ":)" at the end of every line.

[Agnostic Bear]

He answered that as well I believe?

I literally could not care less about what you're saying here, this has nothing to do with you.

As for the harsh PM, a gentle warning would have sat much better with myself.
I don't read the rules because there's like 239084203948 of them and it'd take 3 years to read. A gentle nudge in the right direction is always appreciated, not I WILL BREATHE DOWN YOUR NECK UNTIL YOU DO IT RIGHT.

[Shar]

I don't get how the PM was at all condescending, it was just straight to the point like it ought to be - break the rules again = punishment.

[immense]

some people i.e. thread started wont understand unless they're spoken to like this.

[Agnostic Bear]

some people i.e. thread started wont understand unless they're spoken to like this.

Go be hatin' that i'm styin on you somewhere else.

As for Shar,, I have never appreciated strict PMs and it just makes me want to annoy the person who sent it. What I'm trying to say here is a nice, polite email without being hilariously strict is always appreciated and never makes me feel "let's go break the rules because he's being rude".

[Alkaz]

I literally could not care less about what you're saying here, this has nothing to do with you.
To be honest you did post this in the public feedback forums. Perhaps you could use the complaints (http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1328) section next time?

[Hecktix]

I've seen the PM and it isn't slightly condescening, it takes a harsh tone although to be honest that's entirely correct, HabboxForum provides many features for all of its users and should those features begin to be abused then it causes a nuisance for ever other one of the three-hundred or so active visitors each day.

In response to Saurav claiming it's too strict, should you have posted that many items on the forum - you'd be cautioned or banned. The PM makes a message that what you did was unacceptable, causes a nuisance to every other user of this forum and warns you not to do it again.

[Agnostic Bear]

To be honest you did post this in the public feedback forums. Perhaps you could use the complaints (http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1328) section next time?

I know that, it's just I'd rather get people's opinions on it. However I do not care for his views due to other forum postings.


I've seen the PM and it isn't slightly condescening, it takes a harsh tone although to be honest that's entirely correct, HabboxForum provides many features for all of its users and should those features begin to be abused then it causes a nuisance for ever other one of the three-hundred or so active visitors each day.

In response to Saurav claiming it's too strict, should you have posted that many items on the forum - you'd be cautioned or banned. The PM makes a message that what you did was unacceptable, causes a nuisance to every other user of this forum and warns you not to do it again.

How about


Hey there,

Your recent calender happenings are against the rules. Please don't do it again.

Thanks,
John Doe

I would have appreciated that 10x more and there would have been no fuss about it. I would have accepted that it was wrong and simply dealt with it.

[Hecktix]

I know that, it's just I'd rather get people's opinions on it. However I do not care for his views due to other forum postings.

Then place him on your ignore list: http://www.habboxforum.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist rather than arguing in a thread.

[Agnostic Bear]

Then place him on your ignore list: http://www.habboxforum.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist rather than arguing in a thread.

I believe everyone has a right to be heard and seen by all so I wont be doing that. I did use it once though and it was a very bad experience.

[Chippiewill]

I know that, it's just I'd rather get people's opinions on it. However I do not care for his views due to other forum postings.
If you cannot stand people disagreeing with you then you should just give up. There's no need to ever be rude about it.


I would have appreciated that 10x more and there would have been no fuss about it. I would have accepted that it was wrong and simply dealt with it.
That would not have sent the right message.


I literally could not care less about what you're saying here, this has nothing to do with you.
If you don't want the opinion of people it has nothing to do with: PMs or the complaints forum would suffice.

[Agnostic Bear]

That would not have sent the right message.

Yes it would, I just said it would, that's a fact you see.

I appreciate polite, simple messages, not "DO THIS OR LOLBYE VIP".

[The Don]

It's funny, everyones saying that habbox should be less strict on rules but then we get people doing things that break rules and then moaning about having a 'Harsh' PM sent to them.Only on habbox :L If you don't want 'Harsh' PM's Don't break the rules.

[Chippiewill]

Yes it would, I just said it would, that's a fact you see.

I appreciate polite, simple messages, not "DO THIS OR LOLBYE VIP".

But "DO THIS OR LOLBYE VIP" is the exact message he wants to send? If you don't behave expect stricter punishment?

[Tintinnabulate]

I think you'll find it's very clearly written in the VIP rules: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=631620 or for those unable to see it:



As for the PM it was a harsh PM because it's either a harsh PM or I remove your VIP immediately - now that would be called being strict.

No one reads that seriously...
They only read the main rules.
Secondly you attitude stinks.

I've seen the PM and it isn't slightly condescening, it takes a harsh tone although to be honest that's entirely correct, HabboxForum provides many features for all of its users and should those features begin to be abused then it causes a nuisance for ever other one of the three-hundred or so active visitors each day.

In response to Saurav claiming it's too strict, should you have posted that many items on the forum - you'd be cautioned or banned. The PM makes a message that what you did was unacceptable, causes a nuisance to every other user of this forum and warns you not to do it again.


Then place him on your ignore list: http://www.habboxforum.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist rather than arguing in a thread.

Ignore users is messed up on all of Jamesys skin. I reported it but he never bothered fixing it. And Oli, its only a bit on fun :S Who the hell used the VIP calendar anyway rofl? No one.

[Chippiewill]

And Oli, its only a bit on fun Who the hell used the VIP calendar anyway rofl? No one.
That's besides the point, that's like spamming one of the forums and saying it's fine because on one uses it?


No one reads that seriously...
They only read the main rules.

It doesn't take a genius to work out it's not fine?

[Tintinnabulate]

That's besides the point, that's like spamming one of the forums and saying it's fine because on one uses it?

There is a big difference between a forum and a calendar.

[Chippiewill]

There is a big difference between a forum and a calendar.

You're still abusing a feature which people may want to use. Just because someone isn't using it DOES NOT give you the right to trash it.

[Samantha]

I broke a rule and got infracted for it, and it was no where near as harsh in tone as that?




Dear Samanfa,

You have received a warning at Habbox Forum.

Reason:
-------
Inappropriate Content

Discussion of sex in detail.
-------


Warnings serve as a reminder to you of the forum's rules, which you are expected to understand and follow.

All the best,
Habbox Forum




I'd rather get one like that, it informs me of what I did wrong, and I know not to do it again.

In some ways Jamesy's PM does seem a little harsh. But if someone gets an actual warning then surely their PM should be harsher than someone who just gets a telling off?

(Removed quoted thread in reply.)

[Richie]

who cares if they are nice pms or not lol its still a warning, which is gay.

[Chippiewill]

I broke a rule and got infracted for it, and it was no where near as harsh in tone as that?

It says it's just a warning or was that a typo?

[Samantha]

Not actually sure, but Jamesy had a word with the (ex)mod because I also didn't discuss sex in detail.
I got a 0 point infraction overall though.

[Tintinnabulate]

You're still abusing a feature which people may want to use. Just because someone isn't using it DOES NOT give you the right to trash it.

omgzzz we will remove ur vipzz
its ******ed. Its called a teenagers forum and a bit of fun used to entertain users and make more posts, overall benefiting the forum.

[Chippiewill]

Its called a teenagers forum and a bit of fun used to entertain users and make more posts, overall benefiting the forum.
You're entertaining the forum by spamming the VIP calendar? I cannot see how it benefits the forum as a whole, I'll think about it for a second.

..

Nope still doesn't make sense.

[Calvin]

Think normal member PMs are bad? You must see staff warnings lol, it's like you've killed someone. :(

But yeah, it could be worded in a nice way..

[flatface]

I broke a rule and got infracted for it, and it was no where near as harsh in tone as that?



I'd rather get one like that, it informs me of what I did wrong, and I know not to do it again.

In some ways Jamesy's PM does seem a little harsh. But if someone gets an actual warning then surely their PM should be harsher than someone who just gets a telling off?

(Removed quoted thread in reply.)

That PM is automated by the way

[Inseriousity.]

You broke the rules and the moderator made a judgement as to what 'level of niceness' the PM should be and he decided that as you've been here for years, you should know how the rules work and therefore didn't bother with the sugarcoating and got straight to the point. If this just annoys you and makes you want to do it again, you'll get warned again.

[Tintinnabulate]

You're entertaining the forum by spamming the VIP calendar? I cannot see how it benefits the forum as a whole, I'll think about it for a second.

..

Nope still doesn't make sense.

Its actually one event, not spammed, just the end date is set to December, thats all. Takes them like 10 seconds to edit.

[Sarah]

I think the PM to A.B was totally right to be harsh, because the fact is I even sent you a nice one yesterday for the abuse of the features. You've had a "friendly warning" and in my eyes your subscription would of been removed - or you could of had a warning/infraction so you got off lightly.

Regarding Saurav (saying no one uses the calendar), that's like saying if no one used the forum it would be ok for everyone to go around swearing? would we allow it? no. The rules are set out clear and if you break them you will be contacted (or action taken against you).

[Richie]

I think the PM to A.B was totally right to be harsh, because the fact is I even sent you a nice one yesterday for the abuse of the features. You've had a "friendly warning" and in my eyes your subscription would of been removed - or you could of had a warning/infraction so you got off lightly.

Regarding Saurav (saying no one uses the calendar), that's like saying if no one used the forum it would be ok for everyone to go around swearing? would we allow it? no. The rules are set out clear and if you break them you will be contacted (or action taken against you).

If no-one used the forum well then you wouldn't be here to moderate boooooyaaaa!

[GommeInc]

http://www.habboxforum.com/faq.php?faq=rules_main#faq_forum_terms_and_conditi ons

I guess you should be glad he didn't just remove your subscriptions. Bit silly of you both anyway.
That's a pee-poor reason though. Although it is correct, using that as an excuse in any context like this means that whoever is in charge of such a department hasn't got brains to write up a reason. It's an anti-social approach, you may as well say: "We don't value the lives and opinions of our members, we only like you as a number", and I am sure you don't want another uprising where previous discussions over that have led to Management/Staff/Individuals being blasted for not being creative enough to give a reason.

Now then, although there is no rule for this, you COULD of said:

"Yes, you are correct there is no rule regarding this. However, we ask that you do not add multiple events to the calendar as this makes it look untidy and may annoy other members. We shall let you off for now, but we would like to ask you do not repeat this and we'll create a rule which ensures it doesn't happen in the future. Thanks."

It's better than the "we have in our TOC that we can ban you **** whenever we like, so shurrup."

So I'm with Agnostic Bear here, mainly because something so simple could of been handled alot better.

[Tintinnabulate]

I think the PM to A.B was totally right to be harsh, because the fact is I even sent you a nice one yesterday for the abuse of the features. You've had a "friendly warning" and in my eyes your subscription would of been removed - or you could of had a warning/infraction so you got off lightly.

Regarding Saurav (saying no one uses the calendar), that's like saying if no one used the forum it would be ok for everyone to go around swearing? would we allow it? no. The rules are set out clear and if you break them you will be contacted (or action taken against you).

The rules are set out in a dead forum. Get your facts right dear.

And what pissed me off is Jamesys stinking attitude in this thread. No ******* wonder this forum is dying. The staff are too much up their own ass and love themselves too much.

[Chippiewill]

And what pissed me off is Jamesys stinking attitude in this thread. No ******* wonder this forum is dying. The staff are too much up their own ass and love themselves too much.
Hypocrite.

Also the point is, regardless of whether or not the rule was clear it only takes common sense to realise that spamming the calender isn't allowed.

[immense]

i think there are bigger issues to look at. threads like this should just be closed. habbox isn't a democracy, you shouldn't always be able to complain over a pm.

ironic? probably.

[Chippiewill]

i think there are bigger issues to look at. threads like this should just be closed. habbox isn't a democracy, you shouldn't always be able to complain over a pm.

ironic? probably.

Regardless, they are entitled to an opinion.

[Nixt]

I think the niceties that come with a PM are ultimately dependent on the context of the situation and the individual involved. Sarah has indicated that you had already been reminded of the rule and you are an experienced knowledgeable member with an idea of what is or is not acceptable. In the event that a member knows they aren't to do something, I think a slightly harsher PM makes sense as they have chosen to ignore what is obviously against the rules.

In the event you were an ignorant, new member you would have been dealt with differently, I am sure. But you are not - you were aware and will therefore be dealt with more harshly than you would have been otherwise.

That's exactly why (@ Skizzling) when ever I sent staff warning PMs, they were often quite firm because staff should be fully aware they shouldn't be behaving in certain manners. It's all contextual, and the context of this situation seems to me that a harsher PM is fully justified.

[Chippiewill]

I think the niceties that come with a PM are ultimately dependent on the context of the situation and the individual involved. Sarah has indicated that you had already been reminded of the rule and you are an experienced knowledgeable member with an idea of what is or is not acceptable. In the event that a member knows they aren't to do something, I think a slightly harsher PM makes sense as they have chosen to ignore what is obviously against the rules.

In the event you were an ignorant, new member you would have been dealt with differently, I am sure. But you are not - you were aware and will therefore be dealt with more harshly than you would have been otherwise.

That's exactly why (@ Skizzling) when ever I sent staff warning PMs, they were often quite firm because staff should be fully aware they shouldn't be behaving in certain manners. It's all contextual, and the context of this situation seems to me that a harsher PM is fully justified.
Exactly, in fact I think we've been demanding context dependant punishment for ages. As soon as we get it everyone moans that it's not fair / it's too harsh. Puzzling at best.

[Agnostic Bear]

I even sent you a nice one yesterday for the abuse of the features

It had nothing to do with Jamesy's message which was for "spamming":

Hiya AB,

I have removed a recent event you have added called "no jerking it" as this is not appropriate for the forum let alone events calendar. Please be aware it is against the rules to abuse the features of being VIP set out in the guide thread.

Thanks,

Sarah
Assistant Forum Manager

Now I thought nothing of this message as it wasn't too harsh so I just dealt with it, it was "just right".

However it had nothing to do with setting an alert over 6 years, only "inappropriate" content. My point still stands that I should never have received such a harsh message from Jamesy.

(also no jerking it guys)

also i feel i should point out in large text that i have not, nor will i read the rules, there are too many and too much to read, i'm not talking 10 minutes out of my day to read rules which i have never encountered problems with

[Nixt]

If you choose not to read the rules it's totally your problem - she's talking about inappropriate postings on the calendar, however she does establish there is a guide thread and you obviously failed to read it, so it's really your own fault that you have had to be repeatedly contacted regarding abuse of VIP features which ultimately leads to harsher PMs.

Just my opinion anyway.

[Agnostic Bear]

If you choose not to read the rules it's totally your problem - she's talking about inappropriate postings on the calendar, however she does establish there is a guide thread and you obviously failed to read it, so it's really your own fault that you have had to be repeatedly contacted regarding abuse of VIP features which ultimately leads to harsher PMs.

Just my opinion anyway.

I can see where you're getting at there, but why would I go into the VIP forums? It's completely dead and has no use to me, I don't need to change my name or request features. Maybe if I was linked then sure, but being told about it then balls to it, I only have 3 categories un-collapsed anyway. (General, tech + this one)

[Chippiewill]

Now I thought nothing of this message as it wasn't too harsh so I just dealt with it, it was "just right".

You obviously learnt nothing, hence the stricter punishment.


However it had nothing to do with setting an alert over 6 years, only "inappropriate" content. My point still stands that I should never have received such a harsh message from Jamesy.

You've probably learnt by now you will never beat management by saying you stand by your point.


(also no jerking it guys)
Sign of immaturity Exhibit #A


-some stupid large text-

a) There are not too many
b) If you don't read them you are STILL liable, just like if you accept T&Cs without looking at them
c) If you don't take ten minutes then you take much longer replying to this mess of a thread.


I can see where you're getting at there, but why would I go into the VIP forums? It's completely dead and has no use to me, I don't need to change my name or request features. Maybe if I was linked then sure, but being told about it then balls to it, I only have 3 categories un-collapsed anyway. (General, tech + this one)
It isn't difficult to work out that spamming the calendar is NOT allowed, just like most of the rules.

[Nixt]

I can see where you're getting at there, but why would I go into the VIP forums? It's completely dead and has no use to me, I don't need to change my name or request features. Maybe if I was linked then sure, but being told about it then balls to it, I only have 3 categories un-collapsed anyway. (General, tech + this one)

Generally you get linked to the rules you have violated so I'd guess there was a failure there. Nevertheless if you fail to read the rules / terms that you agree to when signing up or get VIP / Donator then you will be dealt with a lot more harshly as you repeat offences. Abuse of VIP features is an umbrella term but all the violations pretty much come down to common sense. You've violated the rule on more than one occasion and as such you are dealt with more harshly. The fact you haven't read the rules is not really a defence.

[GommeInc]

Perhaps a compromise:

Add the VIP rules to the Forum Rules in their own section. Just because they are VIPs doesn't mean they will go straight to the VIP forums to read a thread :P Afterwards you may decide to delete the thread, but that depends if you want all VIP information to be kept in one place, but it does seem relying on the VIP rules thread hasn't worked, even though common sense would suggest spamming the calendar feature would elad to this.

The message was a bit snotty though. He has pretty much donated towards keeping Habbox afloat. A message that gives the facts as well as a solution would of been better, not blasting at him like he's committed an illegal offense :P

[Nixt]

Perhaps a link to the VIP rules could be provided in the current "Forum Specific Rules". Adding the whole list bulks the overall rules up unnecessarily, but a link would make them readily available.

[GommeInc]

Perhaps a link to the VIP rules could be provided in the current "Forum Specific Rules". Adding the whole list bulks the overall rules up unnecessarily, but a link would make them readily available.
That could work too. I didn't see the Forum Specific Rules bit at the bottom of the Forum Rules.

[Nixt]

That or, potentially, under the user account rules you could have "Do not abuse VIP features" and just link to the thread as an explanation.

Mind you, it's never really been a problem before.

[xxMATTGxx]

That or, potentially, under the user account rules you could have "Do not abuse VIP features" and just link to the thread as an explanation.

Mind you, it's never really been a problem before.

Never been a problem because no one decided it would be "fun" to spam the VIP calender with unneeded and pointless events that not just cover one or a couple of days but like a month or even more. I think it would be pretty much common sense you don't use a feature to spam pointless stuff on, you wouldn't do it in one of the forum sections so there is no need for the calender either. I suppose we could make the VIP rules much clearer to the members of this forum and there is actually nothing wrong with the PM what so ever or that the events were deleted.

[Tintinnabulate]

That's exactly why (@ Skizzling) when ever I sent staff warning PMs, they were often quite firm because staff should be fully aware they shouldn't be behaving in certain manners. It's all contextual, and the context of this situation seems to me that a harsher PM is fully justified.
People such as your self killed Habbox. Sent harsh PMs to dedicated VOLUNTEERS, they got fed up with your harsh PMs for small mistakes when you broke bigger rules (so it was just ironic and ******ed anyway), so moved to other fan sites which are more relaxed. Well done.

[emotional]

On the topic of MODS and their PM's
I got this, it is like my first warning in months, I would get more emotion out of a robot...
Just because you say its friendly doesn't mean it actually is, it would be nice if they didn't have to stick to some sort of robotic format


Hello Emotional,

You're post found here breaks the following rule:

A7. Please observe the correct posting protocol:
Do not multiple post within the 15 minute edit time of your original threads
Do not multiple post after the the 15 minute edit time without posting valid additional information.
Do not pointlessly bump old threads
Please do not bump old threads unless you're post will contribute to the topic and strike up new discussions.
This is a friendly warning. Please do not let this happen again.

[Nixt]

People such as your self killed Habbox. Sent harsh PMs to dedicated VOLUNTEERS, they got fed up with your harsh PMs for small mistakes when you broke bigger rules (so it was just ironic and ******ed anyway), so moved to other fan sites which are more relaxed. Well done.

I don't think you'll find many members of staff - if any - who would object to my management as AGM (Staff). My PMs were always polite but firm, because they were expected to adhere to the rules.

[Alex3213]

On the topic of MODS and their PM's
I got this, it is like my first warning in months, I would get more emotion out of a robot...
Just because you say its friendly doesn't mean it actually is, it would be nice if they didn't have to stick to some sort of robotic format

I said this in a different thread: it says that it is a friendly PM. No it's not. It looks very robotic I'm afraid. I thought they were meant to be very personal and down to earth rather than "I-am-mod-bot-2000". I'd rather them show what's happened but also have a personal tone- like those visitor messages when a thread needs to be moved. Some of them are very nice and just a note rather than showing a problem.

[HotelUser]

I wouldn't say the warning PM sent was overharsh at all. I think it's fair considering what the user did to receive it. It should be blatantly obvious not to do something like spam the VIP calendar so you shouldn't be surprised to get a forceful PM telling you not to abuse the service. You should be greatful to keep your VIP in the first place :P

[Chippiewill]

I said this in a different thread: it says that it is a friendly PM. No it's not. It looks very robotic I'm afraid. I thought they were meant to be very personal and down to earth rather than "I-am-mod-bot-2000". I'd rather them show what's happened but also have a personal tone- like those visitor messages when a thread needs to be moved. Some of them are very nice and just a note rather than showing a problem.

It's a big change from what it used to be.

[immense]

should put like dont be a cheeky sod on the end

would be great

[Chippiewill]

should put like dont be a cheeky sod on the end

would be great


I'm sure I need not point out that spamming the VIP calendar with pointless events recurring every day for an extended period of time is abusing your VIP features. I have now deleted them and I do not wish to see them replaced after this PM.

If you abuse your privileges once more in this way they will simply be removed.

dont be a cheeky sod

doesn't sound right :/

[immense]

dont see the problem tbh

anyway, this thread is silly. i got a pm about bumping a thread in spam and i don't agree with it but hey it's a pm who cares. people need to stop thinking their opinion matters - in the nicest way possible. lol im so cheeky.

[Dean]

Just going over this thread now - I think your response to that PM is ridiculous. Don't do it again, simple. How else is he going to PM you? Give you a nice little cuddle and a cup of tea, tell you it's all alright? People actually use the features on this forum and it's not fair if they just get abused.

Additionally, the forum is not dying, you're just getting in a sulk because you broke a rule.

[beth]

oh dear lord. all this faff over a calender no-one ******* looks at anyway.
times are hard.

[Tintinnabulate]

Just going over this thread now - I think your response to that PM is ridiculous. Don't do it again, simple. How else is he going to PM you? Give you a nice little cuddle and a cup of tea, tell you it's all alright? People actually use the features on this forum and it's not fair if they just get abused.

Additionally, the forum is not dying, you're just getting in a sulk because you broke a rule.

Actually even mgmt admitted it was dying. Just that Jake returned and spammed the hell out of it to make it look active.

[Agnostic Bear]

Just going over this thread now - I think your response to that PM is ridiculous. Don't do it again, simple. How else is he going to PM you? Give you a nice little cuddle and a cup of tea, tell you it's all alright? People actually use the features on this forum and it's not fair if they just get abused.

Additionally, the forum is not dying, you're just getting in a sulk because you broke a rule.

( .__.) you're obviously not going over this thread as I said nothing about the forum dying and nobody uses the calendar. Go you.

[Dean]

The rules are set out in a dead forum. Get your facts right dear.

And what pissed me off is Jamesys stinking attitude in this thread. No ******* wonder this forum is dying. The staff are too much up their own ass and love themselves too much.

@AB - Saurav said this.

[immense]

Actually even mgmt admitted it was dying. Just that Jake returned and spammed the hell out of it to make it look active.
what i do best bbz, i am bein paid gd wage to do this?? they took me from polska plz help me return

p.s. if the forum was dead nobody would reply to my threads. one got 250+ replies.

[Dean]

http://idisk.me.com/dean.majiet/Public/Pictures/Screenies/Search_Results_-_Habbox_Forum-20101021-103344.png

I don't believe the forum is dead, there are plenty of users online at peak times and many people post.

[Jordy]

It's funny, everyones saying that habbox should be less strict on rules but then we get people doing things that break rules and then moaning about having a 'Harsh' PM sent to them.Only on habbox :L If you don't want 'Harsh' PM's Don't break the rules.What makes me laugh the most is the whole "Oh moderators should use their common sense" take on things yet as soon as they're warned for something not in the rules which blatantly should be, they're accusing the moderator of being wrong. Although as it happens it's in the rules anyway but I don't think HxF can ever win now you're even being accused of sending condescending PMs lol.

[AgnesIO]

I know that, it's just I'd rather get people's opinions on it. However I do not care for his views due to other forum postings.



How about



I would have appreciated that 10x more and there would have been no fuss about it. I would have accepted that it was wrong and simply dealt with it.

I am sure Jamesy would have appreciated it if you didn't break the rules in the first place.

But you still did.

[Agnostic Bear]

I am sure Jamesy would have appreciated it if you didn't break the rules in the first place.

But you still did.

You haven't read the thread. Please do so, tia.

[AgnesIO]

You haven't read the thread. Please do so, tia.

I read the first few pages, but got horribly bored.

[Hecktix]

Okay, this is just going round in circles now and is full people all saying the same thing, technically it's a complaint about one of our managers and should have been moved from the off but some replies have been very interesting.

If you don't want the Forum Manager, or any other member of the Forum Team to get pissed off with you then don't break the rules, it's simple really. If you had broken a minor rule which we thought you probably didn't know of, you would have been politely contacted regarding it, informing you it was against the rules and how you should avoid doing it again.

However, let's be honest and I'm pretty sure everybody who has replied to this thread agrees, spamming the calendar with events is not something that you could just think was acceptable, and if you did at some point think that it wasn't against the rules then I worry for you, I really do.

In my eyes you were extremely lucky that it was missed that you'd abused VIP features before, as now you'd be VIPless.

Thread closed.