If you met them tomorrow...

[Ardemax]

Ok so not sure if this is the right section.

This is also something weird that and I'm wondering what you opinions are.

Ok so the first question is what would you do if you met David Cameron tomrrow?

It sorts of let me and anyone know how they have performed in the public eye and what your actions reflect on them.

You can do anything, hug them, pie them, beat them to a pulp. Reasons why would be appreciated and don't hate :D

-Aled

[-:Undertaker:-]

I would ask David Cameron why he and his government have increased spending on foreign aid and the European Union when they are making cuts at home, here in the United Kingdom - all in this together? I don't think so Dave.

[Conservative,]

I would shake his hand and say well done for trying to do the impossible - fix a problem created by Labour.

[Richie]

Nothing because I'm not from Britain so I don't really care :P

[Caution]

I'd ask him why the thinks it's reasonable to tax people for it to then be given away to the EU and other countries as foreign aid when there are plenty of people suffering here.

Same as Undertaker really..

[Samantha]

I'd ask him if he could give me money tbh.

[immense]

Probably if I could have a tour around 10 Downing Street or something equally as exciting.

[matt$]

I'd slap him in the massive forehead

[dbgtz]

2 things
1 - why is he obamas *****
2 - why the **** are you wasting our money on international countries, same as said before really.

[Inseriousity.]

id ask him how his baby girl's doing cos he wouldnt expect it. id keep smiling, keep smiling then stab him in the back. mwhaha. proof I'd make a good politician, backstabbing's what they do best!

[Ardemax]

wow lots of replies. well it's very interesting indeed

also can anyone explain why the tories keep saying labour causes the economic crisis? when clearly american banks are to blame?

:P

[-:Undertaker:-]

wow lots of replies. well it's very interesting indeed

also can anyone explain why the tories keep saying labour causes the economic crisis? when clearly american banks are to blame?

:P

Because Labour caused the debt by spending what we did not have, which is the current economic crisis we face.

[immense]

Because Labour caused the debt by spending what we did not have, which is the current economic crisis we face.

Refer to my other post as to why this is crap.

[Conservative,]

wow lots of replies. well it's very interesting indeed

also can anyone explain why the tories keep saying labour causes the economic crisis? when clearly american banks are to blame?

:P

Clearly you know nothing about economics or politics. Yes, the american banks crashed, but if it wasn't for Labour spending all the countries money - ie; bailing the banks out with billions that we didn't have, building schools with money we didnt have, ect. then we wouldn't have had the problem.

Basically, the American banks crashed. Fact. But if Labour hadn't spent all our money on other things trying to make the people happy, we could have given our banks some money to stay safe, but no - they spent it all pleasing the public -.-

[Ardemax]

Clearly you know nothing about economics or politics. Yes, the american banks crashed, but if it wasn't for Labour spending all the countries money - ie; bailing the banks out with billions that we didn't have, building schools with money we didnt have, ect. then we wouldn't have had the problem.

Basically, the American banks crashed. Fact. But if Labour hadn't spent all our money on other things trying to make the people happy, we could have given our banks some money to stay safe, but no - they spent it all pleasing the public -.-

I hate to say some of that isn't true, but I honestly don't believe it is.

Seriously Labour or Conservatives? I think anyone who earns under £100k should not even think of voting for the Tories.

Labour are fair if I'm honest and "spending money we don't have" isn't always the case. The stock markets collapsed causing the credit crunch - yes? I don't see how spending money on things caused this. Ok maybe it contributed to it after everything went bust but it certainly didn't cause it...

[Conservative,]

I hate to say some of that isn't true, but I honestly don't believe it is.

Seriously Labour or Conservatives? I think anyone who earns under £100k should not even think of voting for the Tories.

Labour are fair if I'm honest and "spending money we don't have" isn't always the case. The stock markets collapsed causing the credit crunch - yes? I don't see how spending money on things caused this. Ok maybe it contributed to it after everything went bust but it certainly didn't cause it...

They took out loans from the banks to spend on buildings & whatever, then the stock exchanges collapsed and we couldn't repay the interest. If you believe that the American Banks collapsing caused the financial deficit think again, it would have happened recession or no recession.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Refer to my other post as to why this is crap.

Replied, I did see last night but forgot about it today.


I hate to say some of that isn't true, but I honestly don't believe it is.

Seriously Labour or Conservatives? I think anyone who earns under £100k should not even think of voting for the Tories.

Labour are fair if I'm honest and "spending money we don't have" isn't always the case. The stock markets collapsed causing the credit crunch - yes? I don't see how spending money on things caused this. Ok maybe it contributed to it after everything went bust but it certainly didn't cause it...

It is the case, because no matter how you word it/try to blame it on somebody else - Labour spent money we did not have, so now we are in a situation where we are spending more on our education/military budgets just paying the debt interest. In reality, crashes such as the 2008 credit crunch will always occur because an economy has limits and is influenced by ups and downs.

The problem most sensible people have, is how Labour handled the crisis.



The government should have instantly cut government spending and should not have been spending that in the first place because it was money it did not have.
The government should have cut back government and lowered taxes to allow the private sector to grow which is the only sector that generates wealth - the public sector is a poisonous drain.

But no, they did the complete opposite - they continued (increased even) borrowing and spending money we did not have and could not afford, they and the European Union (and the Conservatives to be fair) have been/are preparing to saddle the economy with yet more over-regulation which will only slow growth which is already dismal compared to the likes of Australia, Canada, Switzerland and more so China.

In terms of fairness, how about this one; Labour tax you and increase taxes time and time again upon gaining office, they then spend that money on absurd government projects and give that money away to the likes of India, Zimbabwe, China and the EU - because they cannot afford to give this money away they then take out immense loans which we all have to pay back and you call them fair?

As with many others, for you it is simply a matter of faith - no matter what the Labour Party does to you and your country, you will always support the beloveded party because its red and pretends to not like the blue side who you've been taught to hate - the same also applies for the blue side which, is almost identical to the red side.

Wake up.

Extra

Infact, let me put it like this to you; you take out a £70,000 loan which you cannot afford. In order to pay that loan off and its added interest, you then take out a £150,000 loan. In order to pay off that loan and its interest you then take out a £250,000 loan - and so on.

That is the method the Labour Party has used just like much of the bankrupt western world; you simply wouldn't, would you?

It is economics of the mad house.

[Sharon]

Just walk off.. I don't even like him.

[Ardemax]

Ok great I didn't really want this to turn into a death-match of the parties tbh.

But I don't believe Labour and Conservatives are the same - I think you were trying to suggest that?

[Mathew]

I'd say hello, shake his hand, then get a photograph with him to post on Facebook.
Done.

[Ardemax]

Ok so what would you do if you met Dave Cameron and Nick Clegg tomorrow?

[Mathew]

I'd say hello to them both, shake both their hands, then get a photograph with them both to post on Facebook.
Done.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Ok great I didn't really want this to turn into a death-match of the parties tbh.

But I don't believe Labour and Conservatives are the same - I think you were trying to suggest that?

Both parties agree on the European Union.
Both parties agree with big government.
Both parties agree with the unjust voting system.
Both parties agree on big government.
Both parties agree on education.
Both parties agree on foreign affairs.
Both parties agree with NATO membership.
Both parties agree with the whittling down of defence.
Both parties agree on law & order.
Both parties agree on the erosion of civil liberties.
Both parties agree on ever-rising taxes to fund big government.
Both parties agree with the notion of man-made climate change.
Both parties agree on energy policy.
Both parties agree with agricultural policy.
Both parties agree with fishing policy.
Both parties agree on immigration and asylum.
Both parties agree on employment and political correctness.
+many more.

The ones in bold they don't really have a choice over, as the EU has a major part in those areas already - nonetheless they agree with EU membership so we presume they are in complete agreement in those areas. They are exact carbon copies of one another, just they play out the differences between themselves to demonise the other side.

[Conservative,]

I'd say Hi can I have some money. Then be like, gratz on being better than Labour, shake their hand, get a photo then byebye :)

[immense]

Both parties agree with big government.
Both parties agree on big government.

and you say you dont repeat yourself

[-:Undertaker:-]

and you say you dont repeat yourself

I never said that twice, I said "Both parties agree on ever-rising taxes to fund big government.".

[Ardemax]

I can't actually believe you think the Tories and Labour are the SAME?!?!

Seriously... they're not. Now don't go giving me a 2 hour reason, I'll tell you simply. Would Labour ever make cuts that seriously affect the working and middle class and protect the upper class? No? Hm...

[Conservative,]

I can't actually believe you think the Tories and Labour are the SAME?!?!

Seriously... they're not. Now don't go giving me a 2 hour reason, I'll tell you simply. Would Labour ever make cuts that seriously affect the working and middle class and protect the upper class? No? Hm...

No they'd make cuts that make the middle class poorer, the lower class richer, and the richest bankrupt.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I can't actually believe you think the Tories and Labour are the SAME?!?!

Seriously... they're not. Now don't go giving me a 2 hour reason, I'll tell you simply. Would Labour ever make cuts that seriously affect the working and middle class and protect the upper class? No? Hm...

I've just given you numerous examples of how they are the same and you've so far failed to come back and give me some big examples of how they are differing. In terms of the cuts, i've already addressed that - Labour was going to cut near enough the same with 25% cuts across government departments. Labour have been quick to slam the coalition, but I have heard no other solutions to what Labour would cut.

How these cuts are managed on a local level are down to the local authorities, not government. Although I am interested to know what cuts would Labour have made?

[Stephen]

this thread is just spam now..

[Ardemax]

Ok thanks steven for that pointless post.

Ok no more arguing over politics now and let's get on with the thread title, shall we?