Habbox Ideas and Feedback

[AgnesIO]

In another thread I said I would give my feedback on Habbox and Habboxforum, as well as give some ideas on how things could be improved.

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Forum Moderation

I know this first point is not going to be very popular as the changes were only implemented on Sunday. However I do not believe that there are enough moderators at the moment. I understand the concern of giving too much power out to too many people, however I think today's incident is a perfect example. It took twenty minutes to ban a spam bot who posted at least 16 times in the Technology Section with his posted about a 'Limewire Fix'. You cannot expect moderators to be on the forum 24/7, and this is why I think 8-10 Moderators would be a better number.

Habbo Donations

To be plain about it, a better scheme needs to be made for donations. When people offer to donate furniture, especially large amounts, Habbox should jump at the chance. However when I recently offered to donate some Battleball furniture - a few days after it was released - it was all very jolly, and suddenly all went quiet. I still have the furniture, and am awaiting someone to create a competition for it to be given away in. This isn't the first time it has happened for me, so I can only assume it happens on other occasions. My idea: Have a thread stuck on the 'Community Notice Board', with details on how to donate - and make a specific forum account whom users can contact to offer their donation. Then all someone needs to do is check the forum account once a week. This way the Donation's will not be lost in time - as, again I will make an assumption, Roxy must receive loads of private messages - so things can get lost quite easily. It is nothing complex - but it should hopefully improve the current situation. Also: Another thread should be updated regularly with who donated what, and to what department. For example:



Habbox Donations

A huge thank you to everyone who has donated furniture to Habbox - you can check out who has donated and what they have donated below!

-- The Competitions Department
- Sophie - X Credits
- Daniel - X Credits
- xxMATTGxx - X Credits

-- The Events Department
- Sophie - X Credits
- Daniel - X Credits
- xxMATTGxx - X Credits

-- The Habbox Live Department
- Sophie - X Credits
- Daniel - X Credits
- xxMATTGxx - X Credits

-- Special Events (eg. Summer Super Spectacular)
- Sophie - X Credits
- Daniel - X Credits
- xxMATTGxx - X Credits

Once again, thank you!

People don't always want big thank you's and things - but I think noting who has donated what etcetera is just courtesy.

The Rare Values Department

People are using the Market Place much more to get rare values now - so I think it is essential to keep up to date with rare values. I am not completely sure how to rectify this problem, however the values on Habbox are often out of date. Which, in my opinion, is the one thing that must not happen. I understand that you cannot compete with Sulake in getting the most accurate values. So, my idea: Since Rare Values websites are being less used, why not start to concentrate on writing articles for Rare Values. Write articles based on predicted Rare rises and falls, you could write articles on all sorts of things - that habbo players would read. If you wish to keep getting players on to Habbox give them something new. Give them something they can't get on habbo - so many habbo players would love to hear how they can make some profit.

Habbox Live

It is obvious the Habbox Live has lost listeners over the past year or so. It used to get 200-300 listeners most of the time - and now it struggles to hit 90. I think there are a lot of factors that have impacted this - the main one being Habbox is no longer needed for Rare Values quite as much - so people don't come across the website quite so easily. I think the key to Habbox Live climbing back up is to keep the current listeners. My idea: Perhaps more specific weekly/fortnightly shows should be brought in. Shows such as the 'Chart Show', '90's Show', Millennium Show (2000-2005) could be brought in - once habbo players find out about these, they may tune in - especially if they like that kind of music. It would bring more variety to Habbox too. Another idea: Room raids and games. DJ's should be encouraged to do games such as 'Find me - I am in a public room! To win the prize you must shout 'HABBOX.COM' in the public room you are in. Users like having fun - and getting Habbox advertising across multiple rooms can only be a good thing. Take advantage of Official Status you have.

Competitions Department

There isn't much to say about this department. But HC sofas are not exactly the most exciting prizes in the world. They are worthless on habbo now - credits are much more in demand - so users are probably going to be more inclined to enter if they like the look of the prize. My idea: I think you should have more forum based competitions. Why not have a 'quest' once in a while - I think one was done at easter.

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Anyway that is it from me for now - I will finish tomorrow.

[Minstrels]

The donations I have to agree with, I remember when I left Habbo and offered all my stuff to Habbox (including full petal floors, Pink Pillows, Thrones etc which, three years ago were worth a lot) however they didn't really get back to me so I stuck it all on eBay.

[Gummyish]

The donations I have to agree with, I remember when I left Habbo and offered all my stuff to Habbox (including full petal floors, Pink Pillows, Thrones etc which, three years ago were worth a lot) however they didn't really get back to me so I stuck it all on eBay.

That's against Habbo Way
*tut*

[Shar]

Your ideas are actually quite good and might work really well, it will be great to see some of them used. :)

[Mr-Trainor]

The Rare Values Department

People are using the Market Place much more to get rare values now - so I think it is essential to keep up to date with rare values. I am not completely sure how to rectify this problem, however the values on Habbox are often out of date. Which, in my opinion, is the one thing that must not happen. I understand that you cannot compete with Sulake in getting the most accurate values. So, my idea: Since Rare Values websites are being less used, why not start to concentrate on writing articles for Rare Values. Write articles based on predicted Rare rises and falls, you could write articles on all sorts of things - that habbo players would read. If you wish to keep getting players on to Habbox give them something new. Give them something they can't get on habbo - so many habbo players would love to hear how they can make some profit.

As for the values being outdated, I agree completely and this is why I have been reporting more. However, I must say that the activity within the rare values department has increased a lot lately, particularly because of people returning the the new trialists. However, -Danube- a few days ago said that shortly after becoming manager, he didn't have access to the panel and now I believe he is unable to update values due to panel problems. However, I'm sure that the new version of Habbox Values is due to arrive before Christmas :) Obviously, we can't leave the values at their current prices until then so hopefully Dan will be able to update the values as soon as possible.

Writing articles on the market is actually something I was about to speak to Dan about before deciding I'd come see the feedback forum first! :P I remember when Lost-shark used to do trading tips but when he left, no one was able to take over even though I'm sure a few people including myself offered to do so.

I think that if rare values management in particular did some kind of weekly market overview, then provided it's done properly it could be a great success. I think that this could include some of the most significant and/or unexpected value changes since the last article could be included, as well as predicted increases and decreases as well as a comment on the market as a whole and the items and sections recently released, and a link to where they can be found on Habbox Values. Obviously this can be played around with to make it popular with everyone :)

[Inseriousity.]

We're moving into credits actually, I asked for credits ages ago but it was bad timing on my part because of HxSS. Luckily, Wizzz donated 1000 credits to kickstart it all, which leads me into the donation thing quite nicely. I agree, a new system needs to be arranged. For some unknown reason, there's suddenly been a massive uprising of donations and they're just not recorded properly. This led me to make a (temporary*) 'competitions - donations' thread in the competitions forum.

Our last quest was done for HxSS, I think the forum's doing one very soon (although don't quote me on that if it doesn't happen, I'm not 100% sure) and HxHD may also be doing more quests. Personally, I think they lose their effect if done constantly. 'Big' competitions aren't 'big' if they're being done every 5 minutes hence why I tend to space my quests and stuff out :)

*temporary because I was under the impression that after the last thread talking bout this, something was being done.

[AgnesIO]

As for the values being outdated, I agree completely and this is why I have been reporting more. However, I must say that the activity within the rare values department has increased a lot lately, particularly because of people returning the the new trialists. However, -Danube- a few days ago said that shortly after becoming manager, he didn't have access to the panel and now I believe he is unable to update values due to panel problems. However, I'm sure that the new version of Habbox Values is due to arrive before Christmas :) Obviously, we can't leave the values at their current prices until then so hopefully Dan will be able to update the values as soon as possible.

Writing articles on the market is actually something I was about to speak to Dan about before deciding I'd come see the feedback forum first! :P I remember when Lost-shark used to do trading tips but when he left, no one was able to take over even though I'm sure a few people including myself offered to do so.

I think that if rare values management in particular did some kind of weekly market overview, then provided it's done properly it could be a great success. I think that this could include some of the most significant and/or unexpected value changes since the last article could be included, as well as predicted increases and decreases as well as a comment on the market as a whole and the items and sections recently released, and a link to where they can be found on Habbox Values. Obviously this can be played around with to make it popular with everyone :)

Thanks for your comments Luke. Rare Watch is something that could attract users to habbox - but I think it is important to remember not all rare value reporters enjoy writing a lot. So perhaps a specific role could be made, but I feel it is best to keep the role inside the rare values department, rather than moving it out elsewhere, to a department such as content.

I guess the panel problem is really unfortunate - and let's be honest the rare values department can not be held to blame for that at all. I will make another thread tomorrow, specifically for rare values, as I have a few more ideas to help the department stay successful - as I believe it is key to keeping habbox as popular as it has proven to be over its six year life.

[Mr-Trainor]

Forgot to add to my post that I agree with the competition prices changing from Club Sofas to Credits and I agree with your idea regarding Donations. As for there not being enough moderators, I agree completely. I think there should be at least 7-8 and I feel that there should be [I]more[I] moderators when compared to super moderators.

[xxMATTGxx]

You have posted some good suggestions to be honest. The 'Habbo Donations' idea with the thread, would you say that would only be ideal for people who donate credits? Because some people do donate a load of furni which could take a while to do a whole list of. So maybe to add onto the thread so that it can say the following:



xxMATTGxx - Donated a large amount of furni

I think the thread would be nice to recognized the people who have donated credits or furni for Habbox, there is a selection for this on the website but a thread would be a lot better to manage. I shall talk to Roxy to get the thread going which can be updated by her and myself and other members of Managements who may receive donations for whatever reason.

Rare Values Department

I'm going to put this out here before anyone else picks up on it. The current values on Habbox.com are currently outdated and this is because due to problem we are facing within the back end of the system meaning the values cannot be updated at this moment in time. There should be a Habbox Today or a message somewhere on the site explaining that to the users. Articles may be a good thing to start doing, I'm sure the RVR Management who are more experience in the whole value business than I am will come up with their view and ideas towards it.

Competitions Department

I do believe they were going to switch over to using credits very soon!

Habbox Live

I think the other reason Habbox Live isn't getting the 200-300 listeners mark is because Habbo radios are not what they used to be in the Habbo community and they aren't as popular as they used to be, not just Habbox's. Although that isn't the sole reason why HabboxLive is struggling to keep a certain amount of listeners.

[AgnesIO]

We're moving into credits actually, I asked for credits ages ago but it was bad timing on my part because of HxSS. Luckily, Wizzz donated 1000 credits to kickstart it all, which leads me into the donation thing quite nicely. I agree, a new system needs to be arranged. For some unknown reason, there's suddenly been a massive uprising of donations and they're just not recorded properly. This led me to make a (temporary*) 'competitions - donations' thread in the competitions forum.

Our last quest was done for HxSS, I think the forum's doing one very soon (although don't quote me on that if it doesn't happen, I'm not 100% sure) and HxHD may also be doing more quests. Personally, I think they lose their effect if done constantly. 'Big' competitions aren't 'big' if they're being done every 5 minutes hence why I tend to space my quests and stuff out :)

*temporary because I was under the impression that after the last thread talking bout this, something was being done.

I agree with the comment on big events/competitions aren't bit when done constantly - sorry if I came across as wanting more big quests (like every other week!) I did see your competitions donations thread - however I do think a main thread with all the donations should be made - stating what department received the donation (or if it was a general donation).

It is encouraging to see staff who are managers/high up in their department replying with their thoughts.

[Mr-Trainor]

Thanks for your comments Luke. Rare Watch is something that could attract users to habbox - but I think it is important to remember not all rare value reporters enjoy writing a lot. So perhaps a specific role could be made, but I feel it is best to keep the role inside the rare values department, rather than moving it out elsewhere, to a department such as content.

I guess the panel problem is really unfortunate - and let's be honest the rare values department can not be held to blame for that at all. I will make another thread tomorrow, specifically for rare values, as I have a few more ideas to help the department stay successful - as I believe it is key to keeping habbox as popular as it has proven to be over its six year life.

Yea, it would definitely be best for someone in the rare values department to write up an article on the current market and the reason I suggested the rare values management is because they are the ones who update the values on Habbox, the rest of us just report :P. However, there could always be input from head rare values reporter(s).

There are now two different head rare values reporter roles which are to be implemented from Monday and are staff and content. Although these may change monthly, although I think if two people don't want to swap them they stay the same, it could be the content head rare values reporters who help rare values management (-Danube-) with writing it up, even if it is just suggestions. I know Lost-Shark used to post a thread asking for input because I and many others did give input and he gave credit to us at the bottom of the article.

I look forward to seeing your other thread tomorrow! :)

[AgnesIO]

You have posted some good suggestions to be honest. The 'Habbo Donations' idea with the thread, would you say that would only be ideal for people who donate credits? Because some people do donate a load of furni which could take a while to do a whole list of. So maybe to add onto the thread so that it can say the following:




I think the thread would be nice to recognized the people who have donated credits or furni for Habbox, there is a selection for this on the website but a thread would be a lot better to manage. I shall talk to Roxy to get the thread going which can be updated by her and myself and other members of Managements who may receive donations for whatever reason.

Rare Values Department

I'm going to put this out here before anyone else picks up on it. The current values on Habbox.com are currently outdated and this is because due to problem we are facing within the back end of the system meaning the values cannot be updated at this moment in time. There should be a Habbox Today or a message somewhere on the site explaining that to the users. Articles may be a good thing to start doing, I'm sure the RVR Management who are more experience in the whole value business than I am will come up with their view and ideas towards it.

Competitions Department

I do believe they were going to switch over to using credits very soon!

Habbox Live

I think the other reason Habbox Live isn't getting the 200-300 listeners mark is because Habbo radios are not what they used to be in the Habbo community and they aren't as popular as they used to be, not just Habbox's. Although that isn't the sole reason why HabboxLive is struggling to keep a certain amount of listeners.

For the donations thread, perhaps work out to the nearest ten how much what they have donated is worth in credits? Then you could have; "xxMATTGxx - x Credits worth of furniture". Also I forgot to add: the date needs to be added to the donations list!

Luke beat you to it on the Rare Values problem! Anyway, I do really think, once people find out (especially users from the UK hotel that will know all about Habbox Rare values) that Habbox has something to offer when it comes to rare values, users may come back.

I totally agree about Habbox Live. I understand radios are not quite as popular as they used to be - especially since youtube and other streaming services are becoming ever more popular. Again, I will post another idea for HabboxLive tomorrow - which I think could help improve the situation it is currently facing!

[Mr-Trainor]

I think that calculating how much the donation is worth would work, as long as it's calculated by the correct values :P. Like if someone donated 20 holodices, that would be 120c by the catalogue but would actually be worth only 40c really. So it should then be put down as 40c.

Obviously I know that if someone donated 20 holodice then you'd just write '20 holodice' but this is just an example for those large donations :).

[Alex3213]

What Mike said bout comps, cba to write on an iPod. There is a fair bit of forummy stuff, just not too common.

As for donations, yes. A thread please! Although prices chsnge all the time, so no bout x creds of furni. Instead, have screenshots showinh the trades.

[xxMATTGxx]

What Mike said bout comps, cba to write on an iPod. There is a fair bit of forummy stuff, just not too common.

As for donations, yes. A thread please! Although prices chsnge all the time, so no bout x creds of furni. Instead, have screenshots showinh the trades.

I do take screenshots of the trades any time people donate so that could be possible! :P

[Josh]

I just wanted to make a few points so I didn't read any other posts; sorry.

I think Habbox has been saying they will get a new donation system for MONTHS NOW. I remember I donated a throne to Garion months and months ago and he said a new donator system is coming... Haven't seen a thing.

And to the competition thing.

I saw the issues that exist with HC prizes. So I donated 20 goldbars to help the transition to credits. I haven't seen them used yet and it's been quite a while, but I am hoping to see them soon in the next batch of comps (start of month usually.)

[Alex3213]

I just wanted to make a few points so I didn't read any other posts; sorry.

I think Habbox has been saying they will get a new donation system for MONTHS NOW. I remember I donated a throne to Garion months and months ago and he said a new donator system is coming... Haven't seen a thing.

And to the competition thing.

I saw the issues that exist with HC prizes. So I donated 20 goldbars to help the transition to credits. I haven't seen them used yet and it's been quite a while, but I am hoping to see them soon in the next batch of comps (start of month usually.)

they will be used from November, do not worry! :)

[GommeInc]

I didn't notice donations were handled so badly :S I remember back in the past donations were taken quickly and also with alot of praise and thanks :S Might explain why it's gone quiet in those departments. Surely a "hidden" forum could work, which only the appropriate characters have access to view the threads e.g. Department Managers and General Managers? It's only a "security risk" if you make it one, by hiring the wrong people do lally. A thread announcing them maybe a bit too much, but it depends how it is done. In the past, when Habbox created their own website without the use of Joomla!, donations were announced somewhere special, if I remember correctly? Maybe this could be a possibility, with an announcement thread in the competitions/community forums as previously mentioned?

The Moderator point is interesting. To some extent, you're correct, but 8-10 moderators doesn't mean much because you've got to hire people who know what they're doing and are flexible. Hire ones that barely sleep :P

[Hecktix]

In regards to donations - we've had meetings with Jins and there's a new system currently being set up, Matt's also looking into the thread idea suggested in this thread.

In terms of moderation, 6 global moderators is a good number and should work well when everybody gets settled, it's worth remembering at the moment the majority of our team is relatively unexperienced, we only really have Nicola & Bolt660 who are in their jobs & know 100% what they are doing, Amber is still a very new Super Moderator and the three global mods only passed their trials a few weeks ago. In the example you gave of it taking 20 minutes to sort a spam bot, the number of moderators was not a problem - as in fact there were three moderators online, however none of them had experience in dealing with the situation - now they know and it won't happen again, it wasn't an example of needing more moderators, we could have 50 mods but if they don't know what to do it still won't get done any quicker, 6 with global perms is an ample number and I am confident the new system will prove successful when we have more than 2 moderators who know their job to the complete extent, this isn't to criticise the moderators either - they can't help being new, when the system settles it should never be that there are this many moderators with little experience.

[Calvin]

can't type much as theres no space bar on this laptop and it's annoying, i'll explain in more detail later.

but perhaps have guides on how to make more furniture/credits or something.

[AgnesIO]

The Moderator point is interesting. To some extent, you're correct, but 8-10 moderators doesn't mean much because you've got to hire people who know what they're doing and are flexible. Hire ones that barely sleep :P

Catching the plane to India tomorrow.


In regards to donations - we've had meetings with Jins and there's a new system currently being set up, Matt's also looking into the thread idea suggested in this thread.

In terms of moderation, 6 global moderators is a good number and should work well when everybody gets settled, it's worth remembering at the moment the majority of our team is relatively unexperienced, we only really have Nicola & Bolt660 who are in their jobs & know 100% what they are doing, Amber is still a very new Super Moderator and the three global mods only passed their trials a few weeks ago. In the example you gave of it taking 20 minutes to sort a spam bot, the number of moderators was not a problem - as in fact there were three moderators online, however none of them had experience in dealing with the situation - now they know and it won't happen again, it wasn't an example of needing more moderators, we could have 50 mods but if they don't know what to do it still won't get done any quicker, 6 with global perms is an ample number and I am confident the new system will prove successful when we have more than 2 moderators who know their job to the complete extent, this isn't to criticise the moderators either - they can't help being new, when the system settles it should never be that there are this many moderators with little experience.

I understand what you mean by four of the six moderators are not very experienced, but I would have thought common sense would have kicked in - procedures should be skipped when something like this happens as far as I am concerned. Bn the user, remove the threads. Sorted.

Your comment regarding the fifty moderators works both ways. Six global moderators, when not all of them are very good would create the same problem. I am not saying any of the moderators are not very good - as I don't know how they all do - just pointing it out!

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Skizzling/(Calvin?) that is a good idea. I will post it in to the thread about Rare Guides :)

[Hecktix]

I understand what you mean by four of the six moderators are not very experienced, but I would have thought common sense would have kicked in - procedures should be skipped when something like this happens as far as I am concerned. Bn the user, remove the threads. Sorted.

Your comment regarding the fifty moderators works both ways. Six global moderators, when not all of them are very good would create the same problem. I am not saying any of the moderators are not very good - as I don't know how they all do - just pointing it out!

To be fair regarding the spam bot the other day, the first thread was dealt with within minutes by a moderator, more threads got posted whilst the inexperienced moderator was confused about who to contact as no Super Moderator was online at the precise time - the point still stands and I'm glad you agree there.

With only having 6 moderators it is on us to make sure we have 6 good moderators, I've told James he has to run a tight ship and any slacking/bad moderation should be dealt with severely. I am confident the 6 moderator trial will prove successful

[MissAlice]

You have posted some good suggestions to be honest. The 'Habbo Donations' idea with the thread, would you say that would only be ideal for people who donate credits? Because some people do donate a load of furni which could take a while to do a whole list of. So maybe to add onto the thread so that it can say the following:




I think the thread would be nice to recognized the people who have donated credits or furni for Habbox, there is a selection for this on the website but a thread would be a lot better to manage. I shall talk to Roxy to get the thread going which can be updated by her and myself and other members of Managements who may receive donations for whatever reason.

There was a thread in Feedback with all donations, and it was kept up to date by Mr.OSH, so I am guessing it's now hidden? It showed all my donations, regardless of which department I donated to.




Competitions Department

I do believe they were going to switch over to using credits very soon!



Has all the 5000 credits donated by jrh2002 to the Competitions Dept. all gone :O :O
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=516599

I do feel it's very important to see how donations are used, else members like myself, jrh2002, Wiizzz and others will think twice about donating again.

[Alex3213]

There was a thread in Feedback with all donations, and it was kept up to date by Mr.OSH, so I am guessing it's now hidden? It showed all my donations, regardless of which department I donated to.




Has all the 5000 credits donated by jrh2002 to the Competitions Dept. all gone :O :O
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=516599

I do feel it's very important to see how donations are used, else members like myself, jrh2002, Wiizzz and others will think twice about donating again.

I know they were donated but I'm going to be honest, I have no idea who has got them.

[AgnesIO]

There was a thread in Feedback with all donations, and it was kept up to date by Mr.OSH, so I am guessing it's now hidden? It showed all my donations, regardless of which department I donated to.




Has all the 5000 credits donated by jrh2002 to the Competitions Dept. all gone :O :O
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=516599

I do feel it's very important to see how donations are used, else members like myself, jrh2002, Wiizzz and others will think twice about donating again.

Same here. I am due to be giving another 250c worth of stuff on Monday, but it is annoying when you never find out how it was spent.

I can't see how james' donation has all gone??

[Alex3213]

Same here. I am due to be giving another 250c worth of stuff on Monday, but it is annoying when you never find out how it was spent.

I can't see how james' donation has all gone??

I can't either. I shall chase this up for you.

[Conservative,]

I think cred/furni donors should get a forum badge saying that they've donated, people would be more inclined to donate then...

ANYWAY - about HxL - As soon as I (hopefully) pass my trial I am going to apply for a permanent show in which I will do pretty much what the universal chart show does - hold a poll on the forum every week to see what users want. The choices will be 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, or 2000-2005 minus the one I did last week. Then I will hold another poll and repeat.

I also agree people don't tune in as much because of rare values, but I think it is also the DJs. Back in the day, the DJs were absolutely amazing. The youngest were rarely younger than 14/15 (although DJ Nina was 13). All the DJs were known throughout the hotel - and very rich. All those factors add up. Rich - they could give good prizes. Age - all the male DJs had broken voices - a lot of people moan if there are squeaky DJs. And well known speaks for itself - if they were well known, people would want to know them. They'd tune in, go to their parties, try and be noticed. Heck I tried to do that.

So all these factors add up. Tbh, I don't know HOW we can get back to there, but we just do. Maybe bring back some of the younger DJs? DJ Nina, DJ Archie? They would still only be 14/15/16.

[Alex3213]

I think cred/furni donors should get a forum badge saying that they've donated, people would be more inclined to donate then...

ANYWAY - about HxL - As soon as I (hopefully) pass my trial I am going to apply for a permanent show in which I will do pretty much what the universal chart show does - hold a poll on the forum every week to see what users want. The choices will be 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, or 2000-2005 minus the one I did last week. Then I will hold another poll and repeat.

I also agree people don't tune in as much because of rare values, but I think it is also the DJs. Back in the day, the DJs were absolutely amazing. The youngest were rarely younger than 14/15 (although DJ Nina was 13). All the DJs were known throughout the hotel - and very rich. All those factors add up. Rich - they could give good prizes. Age - all the male DJs had broken voices - a lot of people moan if there are squeaky DJs. And well known speaks for itself - if they were well known, people would want to know them. They'd tune in, go to their parties, try and be noticed. Heck I tried to do that.

So all these factors add up. Tbh, I don't know HOW we can get back to there, but we just do. Maybe bring back some of the younger DJs? DJ Nina, DJ Archie? They would still only be 14/15/16.

It was disgarded (badge thing) last time because someone could donate a stool, it wouldn't help Habbox but it may be all they've got. It's not worthwhile and in a way it's a bit like furniture discrimination (a huge exageration there but y'know).

Age- oh who cares, some may not be mature but some 16 year olds may have not matured. Age is a number and I could not care less about it.
Rich- that's not fair really, iit's helpful but it's not fair.
Well known- well yeah but you can only let in who applies.

I don't like the idea of getting them to return- they will apply if they wanna get in. If they don't care about Habbo anymore, they won't. You can't just say "LET'S GET HIM TO RETURN MWAHAHHA" in my honest opinion.

[AgnesIO]

I think cred/furni donors should get a forum badge saying that they've donated, people would be more inclined to donate then...

ANYWAY - about HxL - As soon as I (hopefully) pass my trial I am going to apply for a permanent show in which I will do pretty much what the universal chart show does - hold a poll on the forum every week to see what users want. The choices will be 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, or 2000-2005 minus the one I did last week. Then I will hold another poll and repeat.

I also agree people don't tune in as much because of rare values, but I think it is also the DJs. Back in the day, the DJs were absolutely amazing. The youngest were rarely younger than 14/15 (although DJ Nina was 13). All the DJs were known throughout the hotel - and very rich. All those factors add up. Rich - they could give good prizes. Age - all the male DJs had broken voices - a lot of people moan if there are squeaky DJs. And well known speaks for itself - if they were well known, people would want to know them. They'd tune in, go to their parties, try and be noticed. Heck I tried to do that.

So all these factors add up. Tbh, I don't know HOW we can get back to there, but we just do. Maybe bring back some of the younger DJs? DJ Nina, DJ Archie? They would still only be 14/15/16.

You really hit the nail on the head here Robbie.

I personally am not bother about a forum badge - although there is already one you can get for donating in money - although I applied because of my habbo donations and got it.

I agree about the DJ's, and while I am not saying only accept rich DJ's, it does help. Sad, but it's true. As a younger user if you see someone has lots of thrones you think 'wow! This person must be popular'. So what do you do? You try and make friends with them talk to them, and are more inclined to want to listen to them. The age thing has been brought up before, and although it got slammed last, again it is perfectly true. I would rather listen to a guy with a broken voice, or a girl who doesn't still play with barbies, than someone who still shares pokemon cards. I know that is exaggerating - and don't slam me, as I don't know what the DJs are like nowadays, however age does tend to impact the likeability of the DJ. Finally, if a DJ is well known everyone seems to love them - or doesn't want to go against them. Look at Vintus on the old UK hotel.

On the other hand, as I have said I am unaware what the DJ's on habbox are like now - however, speaking for myself, I can say I slowly stopped listening when the DJs were getting younger. OR something all of us older users on habbox tend to forget.

We grew up.

[Conservative,]

You really hit the nail on the head here Robbie.

I personally am not bother about a forum badge - although there is already one you can get for donating in money - although I applied because of my habbo donations and got it.

I agree about the DJ's, and while I am not saying only accept rich DJ's, it does help. Sad, but it's true. As a younger user if you see someone has lots of thrones you think 'wow! This person must be popular'. So what do you do? You try and make friends with them talk to them, and are more inclined to want to listen to them. The age thing has been brought up before, and although it got slammed last, again it is perfectly true. I would rather listen to a guy with a broken voice, or a girl who doesn't still play with barbies, than someone who still shares pokemon cards. I know that is exaggerating - and don't slam me, as I don't know what the DJs are like nowadays, however age does tend to impact the likeability of the DJ. Finally, if a DJ is well known everyone seems to love them - or doesn't want to go against them. Look at Vintus on the old UK hotel.

On the other hand, as I have said I am unaware what the DJ's on habbox are like now - however, speaking for myself, I can say I slowly stopped listening when the DJs were getting younger. OR something all of us older users on habbox tend to forget.

We grew up.

To be fair, the AGE isn't the question, I know kids whose voices broke at 12, but it's WHEN their voices break. Hate to admit it, but I can't stand listening to ster
eo-typical 12 year old DJs whose voices haven't broken. It gets really annoying tbh. And they sometimes talk about really immature subjects.

About the badges - there could be stages. So you could get a badge saying you donated a small furni, then a small rare, then a rare, then super rare? Idk, it's just ideas. Then in coins you could get a 1c coin, then 5c coin, then 10c, 20c, 50c, 50c+?

Idk...but yeah.

Again, DJs being rich, you can't (legally) just buy a load of Thrones and say you're rich. And obviously you can't mature over-night. But these are maybe things we should consider when hiring DJs in the future. Are they well known, are they mature, are they rich. obviously the decided factor is their voice clip...but if there are 2 DJs who are the same standard, but one happens to be very rich & the other doesn't...go with the rich one...

that's just my opinion. I'm not super-rich or super-famous. I have a nice room, but I could be a LOT richer if I tried or bough some credits once in a while.

And the average age on habbo has decreased a lot as well...the average age is probably 13/14. So many 12 year olds, if we can hook them in by offering furni - it's easier.

But yeah just suggestions, don't hate ;(

[AgnesIO]

To be fair, the AGE isn't the question, I know kids whose voices broke at 12, but it's WHEN their voices break. Hate to admit it, but I can't stand listening to ster
eo-typical 12 year old DJs whose voices haven't broken. It gets really annoying tbh. And they sometimes talk about really immature subjects.

About the badges - there could be stages. So you could get a badge saying you donated a small furni, then a small rare, then a rare, then super rare? Idk, it's just ideas. Then in coins you could get a 1c coin, then 5c coin, then 10c, 20c, 50c, 50c+?

Idk...but yeah.

Again, DJs being rich, you can't (legally) just buy a load of Thrones and say you're rich. And obviously you can't mature over-night. But these are maybe things we should consider when hiring DJs in the future. Are they well known, are they mature, are they rich. obviously the decided factor is their voice clip...but if there are 2 DJs who are the same standard, but one happens to be very rich & the other doesn't...go with the rich one...

that's just my opinion. I'm not super-rich or super-famous. I have a nice room, but I could be a LOT richer if I tried or bough some credits once in a while.

And the average age on habbo has decreased a lot as well...the average age is probably 13/14. So many 12 year olds, if we can hook them in by offering furni - it's easier.

But yeah just suggestions, don't hate ;(

"I was at skool today right, and my teacher said willy' then laughs for five minutes.

Yeah I know what you mean lol

[Conservative,]

"I was at skool today right, and my teacher said willy' then laughs for five minutes.

Yeah I know what you mean lol

Ikr. That's irritating. I think the standard of DJs on trial is very high though, and I believe all the guys have broken voices (as far as I know) so that's good. :)

[MissAlice]

Same here. I am due to be giving another 250c worth of stuff on Monday, but it is annoying when you never find out how it was spent.

I can't see how james' donation has all gone??

Can't possibly, I can only see 1050 of it being used towards competitions. Hopefully senior management have the balance.

It's such a pity, because from day one of the forum I recorded every donation in a thread dedicated to donations, and included the very first item donated which was a study desk. Somewhere during Competition Management changes, corners were cut, and in all fairness we can't blame today's management for someone elses failings.

I also used a thread specifically to thank the donator for their contribution, and highlighted which competition their donation was used for.

Big donators, had competitions named after them lol. Not something I've seen since I quit.

I can just see your name in lights 'The Milestone Stakes' ;)

I do agree with you, I would not want a tacky badge :)

[Alex3213]

Can't possibly, I can only see 1050 of it being used towards competitions. Hopefully senior management have the balance.

It's such a pity, because from day one of the forum I recorded every donation in a thread dedicated to donations, and included the very first item donated which was a study desk. Somewhere during Competition Management changes, corners were cut, and in all fairness we can't blame today's management for someone elses failings.

I also used a thread specifically to thank the donator for their contribution, and highlighted which competition their donation was used for.

Big donators, had competitions named after them lol. Not something I've seen since I quit.

I can just see your name in lights 'The Milestone Stakes' ;)

I do agree with you, I would not want a tacky badge :)

I've already sent a PM to MattG, Roxy, Inseriousity. and even Catzsy as she was the previous AGM and unfortunately Matt doesn't know so I doubt Roxy will either. Matt said that Jin may have an idea so I'll see if they are there. I know that some were used for the Habbox Lottery but I agree, I think at tops only 1500 were probably used and its a shame to see them all go to waste.

And yes, a nice idea. We had a "Saurav's Birthday Bash" but I think it would be nice to sort of thank them and errr, what's the word? :P them and in a way use big donators for inspiration (that sounds rather rude but I didn't mean it like that :P) so we'll see what we can do I guess! :D

[Josh]

I've already sent a PM to MattG, Roxy, Inseriousity. and even Catzsy as she was the previous AGM and unfortunately Matt doesn't know so I doubt Roxy will either. Matt said that Jin may have an idea so I'll see if they are there. I know that some were used for the Habbox Lottery but I agree, I think at tops only 1500 were probably used and its a shame to see them all go to waste.

And yes, a nice idea. We had a "Saurav's Birthday Bash" but I think it would be nice to sort of thank them and errr, what's the word? :P them and in a way use big donators for inspiration (that sounds rather rude but I didn't mean it like that :P) so we'll see what we can do I guess! :D

u said i had to make my own competition to have a comp named after me (after donating 1000 credits) :(

and maybe recognise is the word you're looking for

[xxMATTGxx]

I've already sent a PM to MattG, Roxy, Inseriousity. and even Catzsy as she was the previous AGM and unfortunately Matt doesn't know so I doubt Roxy will either. Matt said that Jin may have an idea so I'll see if they are there. I know that some were used for the Habbox Lottery but I agree, I think at tops only 1500 were probably used and its a shame to see them all go to waste.

And yes, a nice idea. We had a "Saurav's Birthday Bash" but I think it would be nice to sort of thank them and errr, what's the word? :P them and in a way use big donators for inspiration (that sounds rather rude but I didn't mean it like that :P) so we'll see what we can do I guess! :D


Yeah the dates were before my time so I'm unaware where that large donation kinda went to. But hopefully Jin or someone else will have the answer for us!

Regarding the "Donations Thread". It will be coming and is currently in WIP, I'm just waiting for Roxy to add more names to the thread within the AGM forums and if there is no more people to add then I will make sure it gets posted straight away.

[Inseriousity.]

Has all the 5000 credits donated by jrh2002 to the Competitions Dept. all gone :O :O
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=516599

I do feel it's very important to see how donations are used, else members like myself, jrh2002, Wiizzz and others will think twice about donating again.

My predecessor wasn't very organised, admin-wise. When I came to the department, I had no idea who had won what, who needed their prizes, who had already got it hence why I created a 'competitions winners' thread. I remember being in the department during 2009 and seeing competitions where the prizes were credits donated by jrh2002. When he resigned, I tried to contact him to get the furni he had but I never got it and I imagine that a bulk of the credits are now lurking in his inactive account.

As you've also mentioned in the thread, management team started cutting corners so some of his credits may have been used elsewhere like HxSS without any acknowledgement of it (because of the cutting of corners) and then they could also be in Jin's account, ready and waiting to be used but how I was meant to use them after not knowing we still had them was anyone's guess. I remember a thread by H0BJ0B that had all donations in for the competitions department but as the system changed where AGMs would only recieve donations and people stopped donating in general really, I unstickied them. After a sudden upsurge in donating to the competitions department, I placed a donations thread that keeps track of who's donated what and where it's gone. I imagine that in the future, this'll get replaced by the Habbox-wide donations thread that general management are organising.

[jrh2002]

Has all the 5000 credits donated by jrh2002 to the Competitions Dept. all gone :O :O
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=516599

I do feel it's very important to see how donations are used, else members like myself, jrh2002, Wiizzz and others will think twice about donating again.

I would love to find out who has the unused credits. I was going to donate another 5000 but can people be trusted? Until there is a good explanation I don't think I could hand over any more.


I know they were donated but I'm going to be honest, I have no idea who has got them.

Obviously not the people who should have them :o


Yeah the dates were before my time so I'm unaware where that large donation kinda went to. But hopefully Jin or someone else will have the answer for us!


I hope so!!!!!!


My predecessor wasn't very organised, admin-wise. When I came to the department, I had no idea who had won what, who needed their prizes, who had already got it hence why I created a 'competitions winners' thread. I remember being in the department during 2009 and seeing competitions where the prizes were credits donated by jrh2002. When he resigned, I tried to contact him to get the furni he had but I never got it and I imagine that a bulk of the credits are now lurking in his inactive account.


So HobJob is a thief stealing donations that people make out of the goodness of their own heart? If this is the case I can see donations being almost none as there is no safety precautions that can be put in place to stop this.


As you've also mentioned in the thread, management team started cutting corners so some of his credits may have been used elsewhere like HxSS without any acknowledgement of it (because of the cutting of corners) and then they could also be in Jin's account, ready and waiting to be used but how I was meant to use them after not knowing we still had them was anyone's guess. I remember a thread by H0BJ0B that had all donations in for the competitions department but as the system changed where AGMs would only recieve donations and people stopped donating in general really, I unstickied them. After a sudden upsurge in donating to the competitions department, I placed a donations thread that keeps track of who's donated what and where it's gone. I imagine that in the future, this'll get replaced by the Habbox-wide donations thread that general management are organising.

I made it quite clear which department the credits were for so if HXSS is not the competitions department I will be very annoyed :@ I would sooner that they have been stolen than people they were not meant for using them. I donated the creds so that the competitions could have much better prizes and with that attract more entries to try give the department a much needed boost.

I seem to remember the AGM's were going to be in charge of the donations and I think that thje department managers were going to have to transfer the majority over to NVR and then get it back as it was needed. Last time I looked HobJob still used the same MSN so somebody could ask him and also ask NVR to see if he can shed any light on it. I seem to remember a previous manager doing a runner with all the stuff so find the idea of it happening again shocking.

I donated to give Hx a boost in the departments I thought deserved it and/or needed it, to give people who enjoy habbo something that is no use to me and NOT to help some dishonest person get rich. If thie donations were stolen then there must have been a cover up somewhere in Habbox as questions had to have been asked when so much has vanished. Lets hope this turns out to be something about nothing with the furni being held safely somewhere and what a unexpected bonus that would be to benefit the comps department.

This is going back a long time and it seems most the people who can give an explanation have left but maybe one of the AGM's can chase them up or at least try. Perhaps this would make a good quest :P its like an Indianna Jones Film ;) Just that there might have been a tomb raider who has removed the treasure before Indianna arrives. :S

[Alkaz]

Jin or Matt might want to post to give you more of a confirmation on this but.. In our management meeting a little while ago we were talking about this. Large donations from now on (I think) will be on Jins account. There will then be a separate account that some / all of general management can access. This account will be topped up with credits and furniture by Jin when things are starting to run a little low. Meaning that the main bulk of the large donations will be left in the hands of Jin.

I would assume that this has come about because of things like this happening and large sums of furniture going missing or us not really knowing what happened to it. Hopefully this way we will have a much better idea of what credits / furniture we are using and where they are going. As you said it may be hard to find where those 10,000+ credits went but I think now we have much better control over the donations we have compared to a few years ago.

[jrh2002]

Jin or Matt might want to post to give you more of a confirmation on this but.. In our management meeting a little while ago we were talking about this. Large donations from now on (I think) will be on Jins account. There will then be a separate account that some / all of general management can access. This account will be topped up with credits and furniture by Jin when things are starting to run a little low. Meaning that the main bulk of the large donations will be left in the hands of Jin.

I would assume that this has come about because of things like this happening and large sums of furniture going missing or us not really knowing what happened to it. Hopefully this way we will have a much better idea of what credits / furniture we are using and where they are going. As you said it may be hard to find where those 10,000+ credits went but I think now we have much better control over the donations we have compared to a few years ago.

The radio throw prizes about all over the place and can never be regulated like most departments can be so dont care about those 5000 :) I imagine Jess got drunk and gave them away in a day :p I remember the radio using plenty so no issues there.

Almost 4000 creds are unaccounted for so either HobJob handed them over to NVR who will then have some idea of what they were used for/where they went/are or HobJob still has them/used them for comps and not bothered to say where the prizes had gone or something else :o It would be nice to get some explanation from the few people involved and although not regulars here they are still knocking around and I am sure they would hate the idea that people might think they may be dishonest :o. I know NVR and HobJob from my time here and know they are both honest and hard working so find this all very strange. Its a little naughty to point the finger of wrong doing without conducting a full investigation first :) There were rumours of 2 drunk Hx staff in the Habbo lapdancing club spending money on all unthinkable things ;)

Do new managers get a set job description that they are not allowed to change without the GM's approval? It seems the list of furni donations come and goes more times than I have :o Where has the list gone???????????? Has it been removed because somebody was to lazy to bother??????? Nobody seems to answer where it is when asked in this thread....... The competitions department was going to note on each comp where the prize had come from and then update the donation list (how often has this been a good idea and then scrapped only to become a good idea 12 months later to be scrapped again???) Surely the good ideas that are agreed time and time again only for a new manager to the scrap it is wrong? The good ideas should be set in stone on a department manager job description and updated as and when needed (of course they can pass some of resposibilities to others but then they need to make sure its done) Its crazy how often a new manager comes in and then cuts corners which loses a lot of the previous managers hard work only for the next manager along to have to put back what should have still been there.

I thought the AGM's taking the donations was a way to control it? Jin will get fed up having to give out 3hc's every day when he has far more important things to do.

[Josh]

I think the idea is that Jin will have another account that (A)GMs will have access to. Jin will put furniture on there and then the General Management team will use it for prizes and stuff. Assuming Jin puts a thousand credits on there at a time, he shouldn't have to do much effort on the donation side of things.

[AgnesIO]

I think the idea is that Jin will have another account that (A)GMs will have access to. Jin will put furniture on there and then the General Management team will use it for prizes and stuff. Assuming Jin puts a thousand credits on there at a time, he shouldn't have to do much effort on the donation side of things.

Also, without being mean, I wouldn't trust GM to be left with everything. They don't pay the bills, they are voluntary - leaving them with what could be worth a few hundred quid would be silly.

[Josh]

I think that's why Jin is only putting a little in there at a time.

[Inseriousity.]

So HobJob is a thief stealing donations that people make out of the goodness of their own heart? If this is the case I can see donations being almost none as there is no safety precautions that can be put in place to stop this.



I made it quite clear which department the credits were for so if HXSS is not the competitions department I will be very annoyed :@ I would sooner that they have been stolen than people they were not meant for using them. I donated the creds so that the competitions could have much better prizes and with that attract more entries to try give the department a much needed boost.

I seem to remember the AGM's were going to be in charge of the donations and I think that thje department managers were going to have to transfer the majority over to NVR and then get it back as it was needed. Last time I looked HobJob still used the same MSN so somebody could ask him and also ask NVR to see if he can shed any light on it. I seem to remember a previous manager doing a runner with all the stuff so find the idea of it happening again shocking.

I donated to give Hx a boost in the departments I thought deserved it and/or needed it, to give people who enjoy habbo something that is no use to me and NOT to help some dishonest person get rich. If thie donations were stolen then there must have been a cover up somewhere in Habbox as questions had to have been asked when so much has vanished. Lets hope this turns out to be something about nothing with the furni being held safely somewhere and what a unexpected bonus that would be to benefit the comps department.

This is going back a long time and it seems most the people who can give an explanation have left but maybe one of the AGM's can chase them up or at least try. Perhaps this would make a good quest :P its like an Indianna Jones Film ;) Just that there might have been a tomb raider who has removed the treasure before Indianna arrives. :S

Just to clear his name but H0BJ0B wasn't my predecessor, it was dudedanny123. lol they're both dannys but danny123 wasn't very organised etc etc. After I made that post, Alex (assistant comps manager) spoke to nvr and he said that he never gave more than 100 creds to him at a time so he can't have that many if he does have some so the majority are likely to be with jin still. I'd also like to point out that what I said previously was just mere speculation not fact and you're right, some sort of investigation would have to be taken.

[jrh2002]

Just to clear his name but H0BJ0B wasn't my predecessor, it was dudedanny123. lol they're both dannys but danny123 wasn't very organised etc etc. After I made that post, Alex (assistant comps manager) spoke to nvr and he said that he never gave more than 100 creds to him at a time so he can't have that many if he does have some so the majority are likely to be with jin still. I'd also like to point out that what I said previously was just mere speculation not fact and you're right, some sort of investigation would have to be taken.

Poor HobJob's name is in tatters lol sorry :P You did say the old comp manager ran off with the donations he had though so hes already been hung :p but at least it looks like the gold is still somewhere in the Hx vault :) Be nice if it can be traced so others know that their stuff wont vanish when they donate and we should put an APB out on the missing donations list........

[Hecktix]

I shall make some enquiries as to where these donations have got to, I know Jin has a lottttttt on his account so that is probably the case.

[jrh2002]

I shall make some enquiries as to where these donations have got to, I know Jin has a lottttttt on his account so that is probably the case.

Thanks for that :) any news on the missing thread about donations? Also lets hope competitions department post in each comp where that prize has come from so that us donators can see that our stuff is being used wisely and not going in to a black hole.

[Eoin247]

I have to say it dissapoints me that something as important as donations hasn't been totaly kept tracked of. I hope to see this situation improve.

[Alex3213]

Thanks for that :) any news on the missing thread about donations? Also lets hope competitions department post in each comp where that prize has come from so that us donators can see that our stuff is being used wisely and not going in to a black hole.

Yeah atm it's all coming from Josh's stuff as that's the only credits we have (you can see a small credits donated by Wiizzz, thank you). It's meant to be a lot more informal than before but also shows that there was a donator and we can't do without donators.

Also as mentioned earlier, I remember dd123 when he first came manager told me that nvr gave donations monthly to him or something, so I think Jin might have most of it. :)