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Eoin247
05-12-2010, 06:49 PM
Recently FIFA has been getting a lot of bad press. There has been talk about corruption and problems in general in the organisation over the years, however it was really this year with the world cup that it has made much news. So what do you think of FIFA? Do you think these alegations are true? Are they being misunderstood? Should a new organisation replace FIFA?

Personaly i think greed for moneyhas destroyed any credibility FIFA had. The fact that Qatar, a country of under 1.5 million people, with one of the worst football teams in the world, got the host for one of the years just goes to show its all about lining the high ranking FIFA officials' pockets.

Jessicrawrr
05-12-2010, 07:06 PM
I hate football alltogether.
Fifa are just greedy, all they want is money, not what would be best for football.

matt$
05-12-2010, 07:35 PM
Goal line technology.

Conservative,
05-12-2010, 07:42 PM
I love the PS3 Games...LOL.

But yeah I think it's awful at the moment. They need a total shake up of the entire committee. Chairman & all. They need to actually look at what the game needs (goal line technology ect.) and not about what makes them the monehz.

At the moment they're just a load of crooks. We were robbed of the World Cup by bribes and well...I think if Fifa wants any credibility for years to come they need to make an extreme change. They need to bring the game into the 21st century with goal line technology, replays before making decisions like in rugby & cricket & whatever...and just generally improve all round ;l

Swastika
05-12-2010, 08:10 PM
The only reason why Russia won the bid is because money talks.
Russia isn't exactly a safe country to be walking around, especially with gangs and neo-nazis mixed into the lot. Football hooliganism is also rife over there and the police do next to nothing to combat that, i think FIFA will end up regretting their decision.
However, we said South Africa wouldn't be a very safe place for a world cup, and South Africa handled that immensely and kept everybody as safe as they could, i hope Russia can do the same.
I can't even talk about Qatar winning the 2022 bid, that's just astonishing - an absolute hotspot for terrorists especially when countries like England and USA will be playing there.

T@R
05-12-2010, 08:19 PM
Its hard, as most of us are English and American, to have an unbiased view on Fifa after the recent World Cup bid results, but I do think some reformation is in order.
Goal line technology should've been brought in ages ago, although, again I obviously have more of a view on this as an England fan,
In response to Russia winning the bid, yes it does show money talks, that's because a lot of the money they're spending will actually make some fantastic stadiums which I believe will help host a great world cup.
Gangs, hooliganism and terrorism are all pretty rife in England and the USA so I don't think we can use that against Russia and Qatar.
I think it's hard for USA to compete in these bids because we've come to expect so much from the 'most powerful country in the world', but as Fifa have said, they like to rotate continents every 4 years, and USA don't really share the North American continent with many other suitable countries, so I think sometimes Fifa overlook them.

Matthew
05-12-2010, 08:21 PM
All they care about atm is money.

I find it disgraceful how the country that gave football to the world has only hosted it once.

Swastika
05-12-2010, 08:34 PM
Gangs, hooliganism and terrorism are all pretty rife in England and the USA so I don't think we can use that against Russia and Qatar.
I think it's hard for USA to compete in these bids because we've come to expect so much from the 'most powerful country in the world', but as Fifa have said, they like to rotate continents every 4 years, and USA don't really share the North American continent with many other suitable countries, so I think sometimes Fifa overlook them.
I think that statements completely wrong.
Neo-Nazism in Russia is RIFE, and i mean rife.
Hooliganism is again, rife, fair enough there a few scraps at the weekend up and down our country, but in Russia its a serious problem.
To say England and the US are on the same level as Russia and Qatar when it comes to gangs and terrorism, shows that you must clearly be un-educated. (Not meaning to be rude, but please look up on the matter).
I'm all for an open mind and trying new things, but Qatar and Russia will be quite an intimidating and scary place to go for a world cup when you see and hear things, such as the things ive said, on the news etc.

Eoin247
05-12-2010, 08:49 PM
Forgot to mention that its 50 degrees celcius in Qatar in the summer. Hosting a world cup in that ?!?!??!

T@R
05-12-2010, 09:21 PM
I think that statements completely wrong.
Neo-Nazism in Russia is RIFE, and i mean rife.
Hooliganism is again, rife, fair enough there a few scraps at the weekend up and down our country, but in Russia its a serious problem.
To say England and the US are on the same level as Russia and Qatar when it comes to gangs and terrorism, shows that you must clearly be un-educated. (Not meaning to be rude, but please look up on the matter).
I'm all for an open mind and trying new things, but Qatar and Russia will be quite an intimidating and scary place to go for a world cup when you see and hear things, such as the things ive said, on the news etc.

I understand what you're getting at, and yes, the problems you stated are generally worse in the Qatar and Russia than in England and America, however I don't recall the last time Qatar experienced a severe terror threat? And it seems to me you're just using terrorism as an example because of its location, which seems a bit niave.
And you say it would be an intimidating and scary place to go, but I'm pretty sure, people from Russia and Qatar would feel the same about England and America, especially as they'd only hear the extreme stories such as 9/11, 7/7 etc.

luce
05-12-2010, 09:58 PM
Forgot to mention that its 50 degrees celcius in Qatar in the summer. Hosting a world cup in that ?!?!??!

they're making air conditioned stadiums then dismantling them after the games and sending them to africa LOL money really does talk how about holding it in england where our summer are never too hot :P

Swastika
05-12-2010, 10:56 PM
I understand what you're getting at, and yes, the problems you stated are generally worse in the Qatar and Russia than in England and America, however I don't recall the last time Qatar experienced a severe terror threat? And it seems to me you're just using terrorism as an example because of its location, which seems a bit niave.
And you say it would be an intimidating and scary place to go, but I'm pretty sure, people from Russia and Qatar would feel the same about England and America, especially as they'd only hear the extreme stories such as 9/11, 7/7 etc.
I didn't say Qatar frequently experiences terrorist attacks, i am saying its a perfect destination for terrorists to carry out an attack, especially if England or the United States are playing. Saudi Arabia and Qatar share the same borderline, and their two countries are connected, now you can't tell me that Saudi Arabia doesn't have terror plotters and has problems with terrorist camps and so on? It's virtually next door to Qatar, it's defiantly worth thinking about.
I also disagree with you when you say Russians and citizens from Qatar would be scared to come to England, that just doesn't make sense at all - our country doesn't have neo-nazi problems, football hooliganism problems on a huge scale, isn't surrounded by countries that has reputations as generating terrorists and having terrorist camps.

Oleh
05-12-2010, 11:19 PM
a simple addition to the ball with a tracer on which would allow a system to record and relay its x&y axis in realtime to a member of staff in the stadium.. which could then see the x&y axis of the goal and trace if it went in and relay that to the ref instantly.

Swastika
05-12-2010, 11:36 PM
a simple addition to the ball with a tracer on which would allow a system to record and relay its x&y axis in realtime to a member of staff in the stadium.. which could then see the x&y axis of the goal and trace if it went in and relay that to the ref instantly.
Football is better and more exiting without goal line technology, in my opinion.

Eoin247
05-12-2010, 11:36 PM
Theres just so many problems with it being in Qatar. It's so ******* obvious that FIFA took bribes, What happens if Israel qualify for that world cup? Israelis are banned from Qatar.

Oh yeah here is the funniest. It's a criminal offence there for women to attend football matches.

Giarrusso
06-12-2010, 01:47 AM
2018 is going to be held in Russia
And the
2022 is going to be held in Qatar

First my opinion is that the 2018 should have been held in the UK
As the people in UK are more passionate about there soccer

and that the 2022 should be held in Australia its about god dam time we should get a chance to hold the world cup we have shown countless times that we can hold world wide events why not let us hold the FIFA world cup

Now your side what do you think of the FIFA's decisions



Edited by HotelUser (Forum Super Moderator): Thread merged into other thread retaining to this.

Eoin247
10-12-2010, 10:58 PM
Football is better and more exiting without goal line technology, in my opinion.

How does this make football better and/or more exiting ?

Swastika
10-12-2010, 11:14 PM
How does this make football better and/or more exiting ?
How doesn't it?
There's nothing like watching a game and there's a shot where everybody is going mental over weather or not it went over the line, split-second decisions are what makes the game immense and far superior to any other. Having technology there telling us all weather or not the ball went over the line would ruin that great atmosphere and speculation, we all go on asif we hate it, but we really love it.
We didn't need goal line technology thousands of years ago when we were playing it and we certaintly don't need it now.
Goal line technology makes football un-exciting and there is no need for it.

Eoin247
10-12-2010, 11:17 PM
How doesn't it?
There's nothing like watching a game and there's a shot where everybody is going mental over weather or not it went over the line, split-second decisions are what makes the game immense and far superior to any other. Having technology there telling us all weather or not the ball went over the line would ruin that great atmosphere and speculation, we all go on asif we hate it, but we really love it.
We didn't need goal line technology thousands of years ago when we were playing it and we certaintly don't need it now.
Goal line technology makes football un-exciting and there is no need for it.

So you are saying potentialy unfair decisions embetter the game?

They don't have to announce wheter it went in or not straight away. You can still have those moments of speculation, only it would be fair in the end.

StefanWolves
11-12-2010, 01:09 AM
Football is better and more exiting without goal line technology, in my opinion.Obviously haven't had a major decision like that going against you, it's gutting. E.g. Lampard v Germany WC2010. Never been so pissed off.

Eoin247
11-12-2010, 08:57 AM
Obviously haven't had a major decision like that going against you, it's gutting. E.g. Lampard v Germany WC2010. Never been so pissed off.


Yeah it's really frustrating. For the qualifier wc2010 Ireland vs France, thierry henry handballed the ball before it went into the goal. When video was replayed it was plain to see. Our world cup hopes were smashed due to a single bad refereeing decision.

Gibs960
11-12-2010, 09:48 AM
Fifa should just say "Whoever can give the most money get's the world cup!" 'cos that's all they're after. Russia don't deserve the world cup and neither do that country I've never even heard of, ridiculous.

StefanWolves
11-12-2010, 10:42 AM
Of course Russia and Qatar deserve it. Of course we wanted it to be here but we've just got to move on. What I'm most pissed off about is how it was run, if they wanted to explore new countries why didnt they just say so, instead of FA's around the world wasting hundreds of millions of pounds. Also, that people on Twitter NEW the results before they announced. If they can leak stuff like that, then somewhere along the line there must be corruption.

hamheyelliot
11-12-2010, 02:09 PM
Giving the world cup in 2022 to a country thats never even qualified for a world cup is basically giving someone who has never been employed a business. If the decisions were anything to do with Panorama and the NOTW then that just shows how 'transparent' FIFA actually is.

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