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Niall!
08-12-2010, 07:26 PM
You read it folks, the EMA scheme is being scrapped.

Anyone receiving EMA this year will continue receiving until the academic year has finished however as of September 2011 NO-ONE will be receiving anything.

http://ema.ypla.gov.uk/

I AM NOT VERY ******* HAPPY

I'm going to have to quit college because of this. Thank you Cameron, I'm doomed to being a shop assistant forever.

P.S Sorry if this is old news, I've only recently found out.

Shar
08-12-2010, 07:29 PM
Going to organise a protest against this on Monday I think.
Really really really annoyed. I get no pocket money and £30 a week for me is a lot as it pays for my oyster and study resources needed for college.

Recursion
08-12-2010, 07:32 PM
Extremely pleased, 80% of it went on **** anyway, e.g. concert tickets, games etc :/

Very few people actually use it for anything useful.

Nemo
08-12-2010, 07:34 PM
Extremely pleased, 80% of it went on **** anyway, e.g. concert tickets, games etc :/

Very few people actually use it for anything useful.
True that, i know they shouldnt be funding my social life, but next really i really wont be able to go out as much (lol as if i do now) since i wont have the money, and with the increased workload i doubt ill be able to get a job. although saying that, i did sometimes use it for like school stuff.


Still very annoyed :(

Neversoft
08-12-2010, 07:36 PM
Haha, now I can annoy my brother. I got EMA for three years, he's only going to get it for one. Although my dad will probably have to give him money for the bus and such now which sucks. EMA does help out a hell of a lot and surprised as some haters may be, a lot of us did actually use it for education-related things.

GommeInc
08-12-2010, 07:36 PM
The current system should of been scrapped, but the Government should of replaced it with a fool proof system which didn't give young people cash in hand. Free equipment and/or transport passes would of been better, and a lot cheaper than what they were doing. Unfortunately this Government seems to dislike the whole system and would rather see it completely scrapped.

-:Undertaker:-
08-12-2010, 07:36 PM
I'm going to have to quit college because of this. Thank you Cameron, I'm doomed to being a shop assistant forever.

P.S Sorry if this is old news, I've only recently found out.

If you are going to school for £30 a week and not an education then I would say that's the best thing for you to do, as you obviously are not interested in school for an education - rather just for an easy sit off while pocketing £30 a week.

I myself recieve EMA as my Dad was unemployed at the time, must say - good riddance.

Unarmoured
08-12-2010, 07:36 PM
I shouldn't be entitled to it but I said I lived with my nan so now I get £30 a week, feels good man. Also, I think people are over reacting a bit, you don't need much for college except a pen and some paper. I doubt any of you actually buy college realted things with the money anyway.

Niall!
08-12-2010, 07:36 PM
Extremely pleased, 80% of it went on **** anyway, e.g. concert tickets, games etc :/

Very few people actually use it for anything useful.

Yes thank you. Now I'm going to have to quit college and get a full time job instead of keeping my part time one I have now.

Some people need this ******* £30

My question to you Unarmoured is.. why are you watching Ore no?

Nemo
08-12-2010, 07:37 PM
If you are going to school for £30 a week and not an education then I would say that's the best thing for you to do, as you obviously are not interested in school for an education - rather just for an easy sit off while pocketing £30 a week.

I myself recieve EMA as my Dad was unemployed at the time, must say - good riddance.
Totally didnt get the joke

Abbie.
08-12-2010, 07:37 PM
why dont you just get a part time job..

Technologic
08-12-2010, 07:40 PM
Should be replaced with free travel and grants for books provided through education institutions or something along those lines

Suspective
08-12-2010, 07:41 PM
Its about time, instead of investing money on Sixth Formers and College students they could of invested it all in the universities system - for which quite a few would of benefited from. I don't see why people, should be paid to attend school. Its also unfair, as people who are not eligible for it - don't usually get paid £30pm by their parents.

matt$
08-12-2010, 07:41 PM
Most people spent it on money to actually get to college, so bit of a shame there, but yeah peple who are actually determined to get an education will find someway of making money.

I myself dont get ema, and unlike people who say 'GOOD IT ALL WENT ON GAMES' i think it was somewhat of a good system but could of been fixed up a bit btw it's not like they're using that money to beat you up with so why get so angry.

Neversoft
08-12-2010, 07:42 PM
Also, I think people are over reacting a bit, you don't need much for college except a pen and some paper. I doubt any of you actually buy college realted things with the money anyway.

Speak for yourself. It cost me £15 to get to college and back every week (would have been twice as much if I didn't have a student bus pass, which also cost money to get) and studying media production we were required to consistently purchase equipment and such that was essential to the course.

Nemo
08-12-2010, 07:42 PM
atleast i can bunk my free's without worrying though

Niall!
08-12-2010, 07:44 PM
If you are going to school for £30 a week and not an education then I would say that's the best thing for you to do, as you obviously are not interested in school for an education - rather just for an easy sit off while pocketing £30 a week.

I myself recieve EMA as my Dad was unemployed at the time, must say - good riddance.

What the hell? I am going to college because I want an education, I'm saying I have to quit and get a full time job because I won't be able to afford rent and food on my part time salary without this £30 a week :/

Special
08-12-2010, 07:45 PM
bit pissed off but don't see why you should have to drop out just because you don't get it, just start saving now or get a job :S

Niall!
08-12-2010, 07:49 PM
Are you guys not ******* listening or something?

I work part time. I also live away from my parents. This means having to pay rent along with bills and money for food etc.

I know another 5 students in the exact same situation.

Special
08-12-2010, 07:51 PM
Are you guys not ******* listening or something?

I work part time. I also live away from my parents. This means having to pay rent along with bills and money for food etc.

I know another 5 students in the exact same situation.

well start making savings now then

Fez
08-12-2010, 07:51 PM
Should be replaced with free travel and grants for books provided through education institutions or something along those lines

I'd agree with this.

-:Undertaker:-
08-12-2010, 07:51 PM
Totally didnt get the joke

I can't see a joke anywhere, all I see is "I want something for nothing".


Speak for yourself. It cost me £15 to get to college and back every week (would have been twice as much if I didn't have a student bus pass, which also cost money to get) and studying media production we were required to consistently purchase equipment and such that was essential to the course.


What the hell? I am going to college because I want an education, I'm saying I have to quit and get a full time job because I won't be able to afford rent and food on my part time salary without this £30 a week :/

On one hand I sympathise with you both and you both have good points, but has nobody actually thought that taxes should be cut rather than government taking money via taxation and then 'giving it to you'? - because in reality all they are doing is securing your votes, so that you become dependent on the state - wanting more and more and of course who pays for this in the end? you do, we all do. Rather than take the money off you and me in the first place, why not just not take the money at all?

Anybody who looks at this realistically will vote for a party next election that pledges to lower taxes.

Unarmoured
08-12-2010, 07:52 PM
Yes thank you. Now I'm going to have to quit college and get a full time job instead of keeping my part time one I have now.

Some people need this ******* £30

My question to you Unarmoured is.. why are you watching Ore no?

I don't, I just liked the .gif.

Jam
08-12-2010, 07:54 PM
Would have got this in September so its a shame but not exactly a 'loss'.


well start making savings now then

From what? He's obviously shelling out exactly what he gets in.

GommeInc
08-12-2010, 07:54 PM
Yes thank you. Now I'm going to have to quit college and get a full time job instead of keeping my part time one I have now.

Some people need this ******* £30

My question to you Unarmoured is.. why are you watching Ore no?
You should be getting enougn on a part-time job, seeing as the minimum wage is as follows:

* £5.93 - the main rate for workers aged 21 and over
* £4.92 - the 18-20 rate
* £3.64 - the 16-17 rate for workers above school leaving age but under 18
* £2.50 - the apprentice rate, for apprentices under 19 or 19 or over and in the first year of their apprenticeship

What exactly are you spending your EMA £30 on? As I somehow doubt it is spent on Educational purposes as mentioned in the EMA guidelines.

It's probably an over reaction suggesting you will have to quit college as a result of the changes, it means you just have to tighten your belt. The main costs, which are transport should be easily covered on a part-time job and any benefits your family may be entitled to. Equipment isn't a major cost as equipment is usually supplied by educational institutes, thanks to some of the support packages colleges, schools and universities get. If not, paper and pens don't cost much.

Shar
08-12-2010, 07:56 PM
Should be replaced with free travel and grants for books provided through education institutions or something along those lines

I like this idea, it would be very convenient and I wouldn't be too fussed about the abolishment of EMA.

The current system should of been scrapped, but the Government should of replaced it with a fool proof system which didn't give young people cash in hand. Free equipment and/or transport passes would of been better, and a lot cheaper than what they were doing. Unfortunately this Government seems to dislike the whole system and would rather see it completely scrapped.
I agree, they're just horrible.

StefanWolves
08-12-2010, 07:57 PM
I shouldn't be entitled to it but I said I lived with my nan so now I get £30 a week, feels good man. Also, I think people are over reacting a bit, you don't need much for college except a pen and some paper. I doubt any of you actually buy college realted things with the money anyway.
you are the sort of people that have ruined it for everyone else.

Niall!
08-12-2010, 07:58 PM
You should be getting enougn on a part-time job, seeing as the minimum wage is as follows:

* £5.93 - the main rate for workers aged 21 and over
* £4.92 - the 18-20 rate
* £3.64 - the 16-17 rate for workers above school leaving age but under 18
* £2.50 - the apprentice rate, for apprentices under 19 or 19 or over and in the first year of their apprenticeship

What exactly are you spending your EMA £30 on? As I somehow doubt it is spent on Educational purposes as mentioned in the EMA guidelines.

It's probably an over reaction suggesting you will have to quit college as a result of the changes, it means you just have to tighten your belt. The main costs, which are transport should be easily covered on a part-time job and any benefits your family may be entitled to. Equipment isn't a major cost as equipment is usually supplied by educational institutes, thanks to some of the support packages colleges, schools and universities get. If not, paper and pens don't cost much.

Travel money, rent. None of it has been spent on booze/drugs/whatever. I haven't been out partying in 2 ******* months.
I earn £5.02 an hour, I can only do 11 hours a week.
That's rougly £55 a week.

Now, if we take my rent which is £200 a month, add on food and travel expenses on top of that and then bills every three months...

I'm pretty ******* sure I need my EMA.

Unarmoured
08-12-2010, 07:59 PM
you are the sort of people that have ruined it for everyone else.

NNOPE.

Fez
08-12-2010, 08:01 PM
To be honest, £30 was always extravagant.

GommeInc
08-12-2010, 08:02 PM
Travel money, rent. None of it has been spent on booze/drugs/whatever. I haven't been out partying in 2 ******* months.
I earn 5.02 an hour, I can only do 11 hours a week.
That's rougly £55 a week.

Now, if we task my rent which is £200 a month, add on food and travel expenses on top of that and then bills every three months...

I'm pretty ******* sure I need my EMA.
There must be some sort of benefit or tax reduction that exists. I would ask why you're not with other members of your family, but I don't want to open up your personal life. It's either that or part-time education, but that depends on whether or not your college has such a facility. You could ask someone what to do, you might find something useful as the EMA needed to be scrapped as it was a waste of money, even though they should of changed the format to allow for reduced or no transport costs, either for a selected group or across the board for all students.

Niall!
08-12-2010, 08:04 PM
They live in France, I wanted to study in N.Ireland. Simple as.

There is nothing; I'm a student apparently I don't deserve any benefits whatsoever :)

GommeInc
08-12-2010, 08:08 PM
They live in France, I wanted to study in N.Ireland. Simple as.

There is nothing; I'm a student apparently I don't deserve any benefits whatsoever :)
Overseas student or you were born in N. Ireland and they escaped a sinking ship and went to France? :P Can they not assist with it?

Niall!
08-12-2010, 08:09 PM
I was born in NI. We moved to France when I was 14 and I came back when I was 18.

No, no they can't.

Andeeh
08-12-2010, 08:20 PM
Its a ******* joke, EMA hardly uses up any of the Govenments money anyway and I did actually use it for 3 month savers and equipment. I wouldn't mind if they gave out free bus passes or other **** because I would just get a job to socialise but the Government are just targetting those who don't have voice when it comes to voting. However 5 years time they'll be out hopefully

StefanWolves
08-12-2010, 08:21 PM
NNOPE.
U abused the system and ****** it up for everyone else you ****.

matt$
08-12-2010, 08:23 PM
Win some, you lose some.

hairpins
08-12-2010, 08:24 PM
dunt worry abowt yew not bein able 2 afford 2 get ya bus to college every week

yew just gotta think tht a Conservative MEP just spent £9,000 on climate sceptic poster campaign usin our moneyz pmsl (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/dec/08/conservative-mep-climate-sceptic-posters)

n neva mind abowt ya ema think abowt da tories secretly cuttin funding for the disabled pplz to get free walking sticks, wheelchairs and hearing aids (http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/2010/12/04/condems-cut-funds-for-disabled-workers-to-get-free-walking-sticks-wheelchairs-and-hearing-aids-115875-22760231/#ixzz17YNQ9NRw)

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs503.ash1/29739_393523926402_511256402_4721570_7456433_n.jpg

Abbie.
08-12-2010, 08:29 PM
niall, my friend goes to the same college as you, and she has a student loan lol.

Niall!
08-12-2010, 08:34 PM
The course I'm on doesn't qualify for student loans abbie.

ifuseekamy
08-12-2010, 08:34 PM
I've always wondered how the people who need it financially coped with 12 years of school :S

Chris
08-12-2010, 08:41 PM
I found out last week and to be honest, it really does suck. It's really going to effect people like Niall.

Niall!
08-12-2010, 08:46 PM
Thanks for being so understanding Infectious.

Don't get me wrong, I am well aware that many people use it to fund their social lives. But some of us need that money.

Shar
08-12-2010, 08:47 PM
Thanks for being so understanding Infectious.

Don't get me wrong, I am well aware that many people use it to fund their social lives. But some of us need that money.
Agreed. I see where people are coming from but that money means a lot to some people, including myself and Niall.

Mathew
08-12-2010, 09:10 PM
I've always wondered how the people who need it financially coped with 12 years of school :S
Different school / college, hence reliance on public transport.

For the first 12 years, both my Junior school and High school were simply a 2 minute drive away (and on the way to my Dad's work) so he would obviously give me a lift and then walk home. Yet now I'm going to a Grammar School 6th Form which is a 30 minute drive away and hence impractical for my parents to take me. Therefore, I must rely on Public Transport which is £30 a month (raising to £31 come January) for a pass. On top of that, I now pay for my meals at school which averages at £2 a day.
I worked it out a couple of weeks ago and so far I've got £300 from EMA and spent £200. I strictly make sure that my EMA money goes towards transport and food. Nothing else.

So while I'm not losing money, you could argue that I'm not gaining any either; as next year (Year 13) the money saved will also be spent on those same things.

My opinion is torn about EMA - at the end of the day, the government is simply giving free money to thousands of students in the UK and especially in these tough times, cuts MUST be made. Yeah, it's nice to get the money. It's saved me £200 and I'm glad I can get it, but the question I can't decide on an answer for; is it in the best interests for the country as a whole?

Rapidshare
09-12-2010, 10:48 PM
At first, you should have not depended on EMA at all from the start. Im sorry to say but that your own fault really to depend on EMA.

Swastika
09-12-2010, 11:09 PM
Are you guys not ******* listening or something?

I work part time. I also live away from my parents. This means having to pay rent along with bills and money for food etc.

I know another 5 students in the exact same situation.
I lol'd because a part time job would easily cover your rent if your moaning over £30.

StefanWolves
09-12-2010, 11:27 PM
At first, you should have not depended on EMA at all from the start. Im sorry to say but that your own fault really to depend on EMA.
That's such a good argument. No substance whatsoever.

jackass
09-12-2010, 11:32 PM
So glad about this! It was a completely unfair system.


Yes thank you. Now I'm going to have to quit college and get a full time job instead of keeping my part time one I have now.

Some people need this ******* £30

My question to you Unarmoured is.. why are you watching Ore no?

How?

StefanWolves
10-12-2010, 12:42 AM
So glad about this! It was a completely unfair system.



How?How on earth was it unfair?

I think you meant to say 'im really really really spoilt, my mommy an daddy are really rich and buy everything for me, I really wanted tht extra EMA, really really did cause im a really spoilt brat and i will get what i want!!!'

The system was not unfair, it was just distributed in the totally wrong way.

Great idea, lousy execution.

Niall!
10-12-2010, 12:52 AM
I lol'd because a part time job would easily cover your rent if your moaning over £30.

Did you even read the ******* thread?

I can only work 11 hours a week, that was the only job I could get. I get 5.02 an hour. 11x5.02 = £55.22
Now, £200 rent a month plus food and electric and travel

YES I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT

Rapidshare
10-12-2010, 01:13 AM
You

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FlyingJesus
10-12-2010, 01:25 AM
What happened to people actually researching anything before going mental? From the direct.gov site (which is where you ought to be getting this info anyway):

"EMA will close to new applicants in England from January 2011. Learner support funds will be available through schools, colleges and training providers to help students who most need it to continue in learning."


There there, wipe your tears now children, you're still getting free education.

Rapidshare
10-12-2010, 01:40 AM
As above, here more information

Discretionary Support Funds were previously known as ‘Learner Support Funds’, ‘Access Funds’ and ‘Hardship Funds’.


What can you use Discretionary Support Funds for?

Discretionary Support Funds are available in colleges and school sixth forms to help with learning costs.
The funds are prioritised for those who face financial hardship. They can be used to help with:


financial hardship and emergencies
childcare costs (for Ofsted-registered childcare)
accommodation costs, for those who have to study further than the maximum distance from home
essential course-related equipment, materials and field trips
travel costs (for over 18s)

Colleges and sixth forms will take into account whether there are alternative sources of help available. Follow the links below for details of alternative sources of help with accommodation costs if you’re studying away from home, and information on help with transport costs for under 19s.




Who is eligible?

To be eligible to apply, you must:


be 16 or over
have been accepted onto and be studying a programme of learning funded by the Young People's Learning Agency

Colleges determine priority groups and maximum amounts they award. Common priority groups are:


students who are economically disadvantaged (such as those on a low income or receiving benefits)
those aged over 19 who don't have a Level 2 qualification
students who have been in care or on probation, young parents and others considered 'at risk'




How much do you get?

Schools and colleges set their own criteria and manage their own procedures. This means that the amounts available, and the way funds are allocated, may differ between institutions.
Some funds, including childcare and residential funds, have maximum amounts available.



http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/EducationAndLearning/AdultLearning/FinancialHelpForAdultLearners/DG_10033131

GommeInc
10-12-2010, 01:47 AM
The system was not unfair, it was just distributed in the totally wrong way.

Great idea, lousy execution.
I think that might be what he was pointing out. It was an unfair system as it focused on the income of the family, rather than the size. A family of, say, 5 children with the parents on a salary of just over the limit (£32,000?) would not be allowed the allowance, even though 5 children could easily eat away at their parents household income. If the UK was made of money, it should of taken into account the size of the family and the household income, not either/or which the current system did.

I support a "free/heavily reduced transport costs" scheme, as transport is the main offender when it comes to Education. Equipment is cheap, unless you're doing a course which needs special equipment likes cameras, although if you hunt around you can find decent prices. The EMA needed to be scrapped, as it was a terrible idea giving students/young people cash in hand as an incentive to go to school or college, with the idea that the money would be spent on education maintenance, as described in the EMA guidelines.


What happened to people actually researching anything before going mental? From the direct.gov site (which is where you ought to be getting this info anyway):

"EMA will close to new applicants in England from January 2011. Learner support funds will be available through schools, colleges and training providers to help students who most need it to continue in learning."


There there, wipe your tears now children, you're still getting free education.
That system is far too fair for some people :P It is actually regulated, unlike the EMA :P

Alkaz
10-12-2010, 02:06 AM
So glad about this! It was a completely unfair system.

How?
Not everyone has the luxury of being able to go to their own personal bank of mum or dad. When I did my A Levels I did two creative subjects both of which required me to pay for a lot of my materials and sometimes workshop time. If I had not of been receiving EMA I wouldn't have been able to continue with the courses as my parents couldn't have been able to fund it for me.

I personally think it's easy for people to jump on the bandwagon here. Especially if you're not eligible for it. This system has helped many people to further their education and for others it means that they can just continue in education and it funds their social life. A lot of people are being tarred with the same brush which seems to make it look as though no one is benefiting from it. This, along with the tuition fees is just another stepping stone to making higher and further education much more selective and elitist.

FlyingJesus
10-12-2010, 02:12 AM
Joe you seem to have missed the posts that highlight the very simple fact that those who need the money will still be getting it

Metric1
10-12-2010, 05:51 AM
It was stupid anyway for you to get money from the government for nothing. Work, earn, get somewheres. I may not have to do it but I know plenty of people who do.

jackass
10-12-2010, 01:32 PM
How on earth was it unfair?

I think you meant to say 'im really really really spoilt, my mommy an daddy are really rich and buy everything for me, I really wanted tht extra EMA, really really did cause im a really spoilt brat and i will get what i want!!!'

The system was not unfair, it was just distributed in the totally wrong way.

Great idea, lousy execution.

Are you actually being serious? My parents gave me nothing.

I got a job, and paid for things that way, so think before you come out with such absurd posts.



Not everyone has the luxury of being able to go to their own personal bank of mum or dad. When I did my A Levels I did two creative subjects both of which required me to pay for a lot of my materials and sometimes workshop time. If I had not of been receiving EMA I wouldn't have been able to continue with the courses as my parents couldn't have been able to fund it for me.

I personally think it's easy for people to jump on the bandwagon here. Especially if you're not eligible for it. This system has helped many people to further their education and for others it means that they can just continue in education and it funds their social life. A lot of people are being tarred with the same brush which seems to make it look as though no one is benefiting from it. This, along with the tuition fees is just another stepping stone to making higher and further education much more selective and elitist.

Again, what the hell are you on about? I don't know what is with this assumption that I get money off my parents, because I don't.

I was in the exact situation as you lot, the ones that actually received EMA, yet I never got it because of what my parents earnt. My parents earnings had nothing to do with me, and no way were they going to give me £30 a week.

Jesus Christ guys.

Swastika
10-12-2010, 11:07 PM
Did you even read the ******* thread?

I can only work 11 hours a week, that was the only job I could get. I get 5.02 an hour. 11x5.02 = £55.22
Now, £200 rent a month plus food and electric and travel

YES I CAN TOTALLY UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT
Do something about it then, quit college and get an apprenticeship? Get a higher paying job? Earn money other ways?
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Edited by Shar (Forum Moderator) Please do not be rude to other members, thanks.

Recursion
10-12-2010, 11:53 PM
They should replace it with a coupon system only certain shops (like Waterstones, WH Smith etc) accepted.

Also lol at the people getting pissed, fair enough if you spent it on useful things, but for the people who bought computer games and concert tickets, kinda about time they scrapped it.

AgnesIO
11-12-2010, 05:54 PM
I shouldn't be entitled to it but I said I lived with my nan so now I get £30 a week, feels good man. Also, I think people are over reacting a bit, you don't need much for college except a pen and some paper. I doubt any of you actually buy college realted things with the money anyway.

Please, please, please say your first bit was a joke.


Are you guys not ******* listening or something?

I work part time. I also live away from my parents. This means having to pay rent along with bills and money for food etc.

I know another 5 students in the exact same situation.

And I know another 50,000 students who are not in that situation. You made a life choice, where you decided to rest on the governments shoulders. It's time to stop.


Its a ******* joke, EMA hardly uses up any of the Govenments money anyway and I did actually use it for 3 month savers and equipment. I wouldn't mind if they gave out free bus passes or other **** because I would just get a job to socialise but the Government are just targetting those who don't have voice when it comes to voting. However 5 years time they'll be out hopefully

I can think of twenty people off the top of my head on £30 a week - that is £600 by itself. That is only twenty of the thousands of people taking it. Free buss passes would be a good idea, but EMA is a joke.



That's such a good argument. No substance whatsoever.




How on earth was it unfair?

I think you meant to say 'im really really really spoilt, my mommy an daddy are really rich and buy everything for me, I really wanted tht extra EMA, really really did cause im a really spoilt brat and i will get what i want!!!'

The system was not unfair, it was just distributed in the totally wrong way.

Great idea, lousy execution.

I never have and never will be entitled to EMA. Let me tell you now though, I pay every penny for my education - not my parents. I work to earn money. Perhaps you could do the same.

Also, I swear when the iPad was announced the first thing you said on here is 'After about ten weeks EMA I will be able to afford it!!' No wonder it is being scrapped.


Do something about it then, quit college and get an apprenticeship? Get a higher paying job? Earn money other ways?
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I totally agree. +Rep


They should replace it with a coupon system only certain shops (like Waterstones, WH Smith etc) accepted.

Also lol at the people getting pissed, fair enough if you spent it on useful things, but for the people who bought computer games and concert tickets, kinda about time they scrapped it.

This is what I think would work. Vouchers and stuff - things that cannot be spent for peoples social lives.

Storking
11-12-2010, 05:55 PM
I think they're only stopping the £20 and £10 payments in Wales so hopefully i'll still get the £30 next year :B

but as a receiver of the £30 EMA a week, i'm king of glad it's being stopped because in a lot of cases people were spending on alcohol and 'luxury' items and that's completely not what the programme was for.. but if I were in the governments shoes i'd have made it so that instead of so much money, you get coupons(as said above) for the typical school shops and then extra money if you need it.. and giving free travel on buses/trains would be great because that's what most people say they spend it on :)

I just hope they're putting the money that would normally be spent on EMA in areas that really need it(universities :P!) rather than wasting it on crap.

e5
11-12-2010, 06:48 PM
I never got EMA anyway.... so all is fair now ;)

But as always, they always want to look for ways to save money... So instead of scrappin the scheme completely, they should offer free bus/train travel and coupons as said above. People definately were spending the money on other things rather than school-related bits, so they are making sense by stopping it.

Mikey
11-12-2010, 06:58 PM
I do agree with what the government have done. All the people in my school who receive it don't use the money for educational purposes, they use it on other things like going to the cinema with there mates or getting drunk. I don't receive it because my mum and dad earn over the entry requirement amount but like my mum and dad are struggling to give me money for school bus fares/train fares and school supplies while these people get the money in hand and spend it on crap like I said above. I think they should of changed EMA so the money is less and that the money is actually used on there education? e.g bus passes, vouchers for bookshops and stationery shops?

Inseriousity.
11-12-2010, 07:25 PM
why dont you just get a part time job..

Easier said than done with the job market atm.
I do believe the EMA system needed reform but atm I'm under the impression that they're planning to bring in a new 'pupil premium' that's just more of the same thing with a different name. Time will tell

Ajthedragon
11-12-2010, 07:50 PM
I would've used mine for alcohol, fun and games anyway, I happily get along with paper round money.

Nemo
11-12-2010, 07:51 PM
Will probably end up getting a job anyway next week, intending/intended to get one this year but keep pushing it back coz im so lazy and already have enough money. Will end up tutoring or something, only 3 hours a week to get the equivalent of my EMA then

Oleh
12-12-2010, 08:55 PM
I recently started 6form and started receiving EMA and to me it is an incentive for staying on to be further educated. Not a money farm whereby every week i can spend it on whatever i like. I do spend it on Travel to the cinema but thats £10 on the cinema, the other £20 goes on the odd t-shirt or jeans which permits me to look respectful at sixth form as well as in house things such as learning related gear (trips to colleges) as well as to keep myself fed through the hours im there.

You may say "why depend on EMA in the first place" - Because when the 2010-2011 term started no news about EMA being abolished was being circulated. The very sentence "why depend on EMA in the first place" is applicable to everybody for example. A Man loses his £380 ,8 hour a day, job with little to no warning. He depends on this job to keep his family of 2 children and a housewife housed and fed. and the odds and ends go into the children's car/university fund. Without this £380 a week he is going to have to declare bankruptcy and be forced to live on the streets as he barely scrapes by on his current earnings. Would you then criticize him on "depending on his weekly income to live"? Think long and hard about what you are thinking.

Feel free to pick fault. This was just a educational example i quickly thought up

FlyingJesus
12-12-2010, 09:08 PM
I don't get why people are even still discussing the merits and demerits of this as though it'll actually affect anyone when it's clearly been posted that further education students from low-income families will still be getting financial aid, just from the schools and colleges themselves

Rapidshare
12-12-2010, 09:29 PM
I recently started 6form and started receiving EMA and to me it is an incentive for staying on to be further educated. Not a money farm whereby every week i can spend it on whatever i like. I do spend it on Travel to the cinema but thats £10 on the cinema, the other £20 goes on the odd t-shirt or jeans which permits me to look respectful at sixth form as well as in house things such as learning related gear (trips to colleges) as well as to keep myself fed through the hours im there.

You may say "why depend on EMA in the first place" - Because when the 2010-2011 term started no news about EMA being abolished was being circulated. The very sentence "why depend on EMA in the first place" is applicable to everybody for example. A Man loses his £380 ,8 hour a day, job with little to no warning. He depends on this job to keep his family of 2 children and a housewife housed and fed. and the odds and ends go into the children's car/university fund. Without this £380 a week he is going to have to declare bankruptcy and be forced to live on the streets as he barely scrapes by on his current earnings. Would you then criticize him on "depending on his weekly income to live"? Think long and hard about what you are thinking.

Feel free to pick fault. This was just a educational example i quickly thought up


Still shouldnt have depeneded on EMA in first place, What happens if he was ill one day and didnt get EMA for that week?

That guy working for his family is a stupid example.

Oleh
12-12-2010, 09:35 PM
If you are ill and have sufficient proof you still get EMA regardless.

Explain why it was any different to what you are stating?

Soy
12-12-2010, 11:12 PM
lol wtf not sure if serious thread..


I wipe my ass with £30.00



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FlyingJesus
12-12-2010, 11:13 PM
That's unsanitary do you know how many people are likely to have touched those notes before



Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator):
Please stay on-topic

Fez
12-12-2010, 11:19 PM
Not to mention insulting the royal family.


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Please stay on-topic.

Rapidshare
14-12-2010, 02:17 AM
If you are ill and have sufficient proof you still get EMA regardless.

Explain why it was any different to what you are stating?


The fact is, you cannot depend on EMA.

SIMPLE.

Also, that example. Your meant to save atleast 3 months work of wages in your bank plus any reduncances payments prior to this. The guy would be getting JSA as well as possibly getting other types of benefits. As I worked out he be getting less than 19 grand a year, the uni/college will be able to provide free travel for low income families. Just becasue you drive doesnt mean you need to drive.

If you ever need help with money, I serouisly reccemend visting http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/ and check out the forums.

Good advice and you can save bucket loads of money. Also check out the benefits forum, you can see what benefits you can get.

tnuCAsggelC
14-12-2010, 09:58 AM
You won't receive your Christmas bonus this year however the Government will receive a Christmas bonus worth millions.

Caution
15-12-2010, 11:25 PM
It's not been cancelled in Scotland yet, which tbh, I find pretty ridiculous.

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