HxL in HxHD

[Sharon]

I'm going to keep it short, just like now there was a HxHD HxL Party (basically a DJ bring everyone to HxHD/having a party in HxHD) and it really annoyed me and a few others. It was lagging like mad, it was full and you get a load of people spamming or just being generally stupid spamming asking for comps or shoutouts or just singing loads of lyrics or just spamming the stupidest things I've ever seen..

I got told it was banned to have HxL in HxHD? Is it? If not it should be. It's a place for help! During the whole time no HxHD Staff were online, they probs couldn't get in. It was just generally laggy and stupid for people that just wanted to have a chat really.

Views and opinions?

[Matthew]

I think a one off in there is ok, if the HxHD has been a bit low on numbers.

[geo]

Yeah, I agree. There were people spamming the competitions answer and singing lyrics, not all from the right song! Like some rude lyrics.. also DJ's where singing these rude lyrics :S (wasn't to sure if this was allowed)

Many people copy what the DJ's do (like the people today) so yeah, i think you should ban HxL parties from HxHD! :D

[Jessie]

I think it was OK when it was in the old big room, but now it's back in a small room it just gets annoying and everyone starts arguing about spamming and such. I don't think it should be banned, but it should only be used for the start of a show while DJs are looking for a party room and people are trying to find them. Listeners love to have their rooms used and could keep them and others tuned in.

[Samantha]

If they are spamming then it isn't fair, I know when I go in Help Desk I just want to chat and if I want help I ask for it. If people are spamming as I said before then I agree it's stupid.

Surely Dj's shouldn't be saying these lyrics? They are suppose to set an example and Dj's in particularily get people to join Habbox because of the radio, I know if I saw that and had no idea what was going on I would just think that it is just a room that serves no purpose.

Listeners party rooms are an asset as the owner feels happy and lucky as their room got chosen, party rooms are usually big, meaning less lag. Also, at least in user held party rooms the owner can kick the people saying competition answers.

However, I don't think it should be banned as such, if it is in the early hours when hardly anyone is in then I see no problem with them holding it there.

[Shar]

Theres no needd for a ban. just ask the dj to go elsewhere if people get annoying.

[HotelUser]

HxHD will continue to run under the normal set of rules - which fundamentally means irrelevant as to which party of people are using HxHD, they're still subject to the two rules which indicate that flooding, as well as being rude to others, is prohibited.

If HxL wishes to party in HxHD by all means they're entitled to, however if any individual user breaks any two of the above rules they, as individuals will face the consequences respectively.

Banishing HxL from HxHD when only a tiny fraction of users cause disturbance would be harsh.

[nat965]

I think if it's at 6am BST/GMT (when I usually do my shows), the room isn't really busy then, with only 1 or 2 odd people turning up not for the party. So, that's fine to do a DJ party in there :P

[Chippiewill]

If it's preventing HxHD staff from getting into the room then there is a major problem, however if the room can be entered then it's fine (Except for HxHD rule breaks).

[ihatehash]

"Oh crap the room is getting full! **** we can't let that happen!"
Nah I get what you mean though, i find it happens often and also tbh i when i'm tuned in I don't really want to go to a room full of rules. perhaps have a party in one of the listeners rooms or, how about in Roxy's park or swimming pool. both nice places, and allows for good parties.

[rnix]

I would love to try and do my trial ;l
thing is hxhd has been really popular lately so clear off please hxl :)

[Chippiewill]

"Oh crap the room is getting full! **** we can't let that happen!"
Nah I get what you mean though, i find it happens often and also tbh i when i'm tuned in I don't really want to go to a room full of rules. perhaps have a party in one of the listeners rooms or, how about in Roxy's park or swimming pool. both nice places, and allows for good parties.

Perhaps there should be an official HxL party room?

[Jordan]

Perhaps there should be an official HxL party room?

There was one, I'm not sure if it's still around and being used?

[sammy]

There was one, I'm not sure if it's still around and being used?

Well it was until Scottio was fired, but he's back now so I'm not sure if his room could be remade? If not I'm sure Gemma or Matt or James could make a room we could use! The official room was rarely used after the hype had died down though, so I'm not sure it'd have much of an affect on HxHD.

I think it's good that HxL are getting HxHD more popular, the departments should be helping eachother out and it seems like more of a positive than a negative to me, if it bothers people they can easily go to another room or sign off Habbo. By getting listeners down there it's making the room higher on the navigator list which helps get the Habbox name out there :P!

[Chippiewill]

Well it was until Scottio was fired, but he's back now so I'm not sure if his room could be remade? If not I'm sure Gemma or Matt or James could make a room we could use! The official room was rarely used after the hype had died down though, so I'm not sure it'd have much of an affect on HxHD.

I think it's good that HxL are getting HxHD more popular, the departments should be helping eachother out and it seems like more of a positive than a negative to me, if it bothers people they can easily go to another room or sign off Habbo. By getting listeners down there it's making the room higher on the navigator list which helps get the Habbox name out there :P!

HxHD isn't about getting Habbox's name out there, it's about helping out habbos. If it cannot serve its primary purpose then there is a big problem.

[Josh]

My opinion is this:

During prime time hours where HabboxLive gets 50+ or more listeners, they find a proper party room to party in and leave the Helpdesk to the people who want to socialise. I for one don't want want to scour through the chat to find the conversation I'm in. Doing this, is hurting Habbox in two ways. People don't want to party in a helpdesk (who would) and secondly, people wanting a chat with other Habbox members (who only come on for that reason) will leave because it's very frustating.

On the other hand, when the desk is inactive, it'd be a benefit to Habbox to party in there.

[xxMATTGxx]

HxHD isn't about getting Habbox's name out there, it's about helping out habbos. If it cannot serve its primary purpose then there is a big problem.

Well it's a bit of a both really, if people come to HxHD first before anything else and don't have a clue what Habbox is then they are also getting the name out there in a sense. I can understand how people would be annoyed when HxHD is full of HabboxLive listeners and they are all spamming and god knows what else and also stopping other people from getting in, it would be quite wrong to ban them from doing that.

Maybe when the room does get a bit full with the HabboxLive listeners then the DJ should move to another room and take the party there but it is quite handy to get HxHD popular when the numbers are low at certain times during the day.

[Alex3213]

My opinion is this:

During prime time hours where HabboxLive gets 50+ or more listeners, they find a proper party room to party in and leave the Helpdesk to the people who want to socialise. I for one don't want want to scour through the chat to find the conversation I'm in. Doing this, is hurting Habbox in two ways. People don't want to party in a helpdesk (who would) and secondly, people wanting a chat with other Habbox members (who only come on for that reason) will leave because it's very frustating.

On the other hand, when the desk is inactive, it'd be a benefit to Habbox to party in there.

I am absoloutely agreeing with this. I think during the early hours of a GMT timezone, it's normally less filled and that means there are normally less listeners simultaneously. I think that when this happened I was absoloutely shocked at how much flooding there was and I thought some people had hit rock bottom. It was disgraceful, it was annoying and that's all I have to say on this matter. HxL in = <50 listeners. HxL out = >50 listeners. My opinion.

[Molly.22]

I don't think it's a major problem if there aren't many people in the room. If there are loads of others already in the room then maybe the DJ should just know not to go there.

[Josh]

I don't think it's a major problem if there aren't many people in the room. If there are loads of others already in the room then maybe the DJ should just know not to go there.

You think they'd know not to go there, but no offence; some of the DJs are lazy and would rather sit in HxHD.

[despect]

All DJs are advised to not use HxHD much as there are quite a few offical habbox rooms such as roxy's rooms which are easy to use, so there will be something done about it but i don't see a problem if the DJs want to use the help desk once or twice but there are generally advised to not use it as it does get boring for the listeners and i can imagine it could get very annoying with listeners spamming the room!

[Felix]

I think it would be a good idea for the Radio Manager being, Gems,x. To make a DJ box where every DJ can host party's. Because I don't think every DJ can afford to make a Box.. Even though it could be cheap.
So The HxHD can be for people in need of help. And the DJ BOX can be for comps and party's.

[Jordan]

I think it would be a good idea for the Radio Manager being, Gems,x. To make a DJ box where every DJ can host party's. Because I don't think every DJ can afford to make a Box.. Even though it could be cheap.
So The HxHD can be for people in need of help. And the DJ BOX can we for comps and party's.

So what your saying is what we've said before about the official Habboxlive party room? James is looking into that I think

[Josh]

Can Gemma afford a DJ box? If you asked 9y to make a room again, I'm sure he would.

[despect]

there did used to be a offical hxl party room but i think because it was owned by scottio when he was fired so we kinda got rid of it but now we have more offical rooms we can use theres not really much point in doing a offical party room.

[Sureall]

I fink an official hxl room would be good tbh, i dont agree that hxl shouldnt be able to use hxhd because there both community based so its linked isnt it?

[despect]

Well, we can see if one of the DJs would like to make a offical party room which is one of the many offical rooms that the DJs can use so we'll look into it and see what we can do :).

[Conservative,]

I agree we need a new official DJ party room. I would offer to make it but I don't have furni/creds lol.

Anyway, with not partying in HxHD at all, I disagree. Sometimes in a quieter slot there won't be any people wanting to have their rooms used and you need somewhere to just base the show and HxHD is a good place to do that.

However at 7pm, when hxHD is nearly full anyway, and then going and partying there...common sense? Don't do it, because it will fill and people will get annoyed, upset ect.

[Gemma]

Roxy has quite a few rooms which are never really used for parties, so it'd be good to see them being used more first.

[Txyla]

It can be annoying if your trying to ask a question and then oh... spam spam spam (Saurav.) enters the room.

[despect]

Well as i said DJs are told to not use HxHD much as it does get boring for the listeners they are free to use it during the day where theres not many listeners but as Gemma said roxy has quite a good really good rooms, they can be used a lot more! :)

[Mathew]

I would love to try and do my trial ;l
thing is hxhd has been really popular lately so clear off please hxl :)
Being rather picky imo. It's rare HxHD is so full to the point you can't enter the room, so telling HxL to "clear off" is absolutely stupid when they do so much in terms of helping other departments out.


Perhaps there should be an official HxL party room?
I disagree with an official room. Why does everything have to be "official" these days - why can't DJs go where they want without people crying? We need to remember that Habbox isn't officially connected to Habbo in any way and you simply can't control what rooms people go in. If a DJ wants to go into a room - what place is it of a mere fansite to turn them away? Sure, you can advise them not to - but I think it's absolutely stupid to say DJS MUST GO TO AN OFFICIAL ROOM AND THEY ARE BANNED FROM HXL.

I'm fully against excessive, stupid rules.. and this would be just another.


I think it's good that HxL are getting HxHD more popular, the departments should be helping eachother out and it seems like more of a positive than a negative to me, if it bothers people they can easily go to another room or sign off Habbo. By getting listeners down there it's making the room higher on the navigator list which helps get the Habbox name out there :P!
I agree with you. HabboxLive pretty much constantly advertise Habbox Events, Competitions, the forum, (previously) Kazopark, etc with little or no thanks. I'm not even a DJ, but I get the feeling that there is so many restrictions and rules for them when they give so much to the community. You can bash them all you like, but they are actually quite useful.

Oh and yeah I also agree with you Sam; the busier HxHD is, the higher "Habbox Help Desk" gets on the popular list. I really don't see what the problem is :S


My opinion is this:

During prime time hours where HabboxLive gets 50+ or more listeners, they find a proper party room to party in and leave the Helpdesk to the people who want to socialise. I for one don't want want to scour through the chat to find the conversation I'm in. Doing this, is hurting Habbox in two ways. People don't want to party in a helpdesk (who would) and secondly, people wanting a chat with other Habbox members (who only come on for that reason) will leave because it's very frustating.

On the other hand, when the desk is inactive, it'd be a benefit to Habbox to party in there.
aka adding rules for the hell of it. This would simply be pointless and trying to control the DJs too much. Let them do their job.

[Sharon]

It can be annoying if your trying to ask a question and then oh... spam spam spam (Saurav.) enters the room.

i don't see the point of this post?

why are you making digs at saurav?!?!?!?! this thread is about habboxlive ...

[despect]

i don't see the point of this post?

why are you making digs at saurav?!?!?!?! this thread is about habboxlive ...

LOL tbh i was thinking the same thing.

[HotelUser]

LOL tbh i was thinking the same thing.

I think it comes as second nature to do so retaining to when Saurav was at large in the Feedback forums. Anyway I believe he was probably mentioned in relation to HxHD because Tay was probably trying to emphasize the assorted distractions which occur in the room that otherwise occupy a HxHD staff member's attention from helping someone who needs help. Saurav was likely used in this example because at the moment he's really one of the only users who consistently tries to troll the room whilst displaying an obvious and complete lack in attempt to uphold himself to a level of professionalism you would believe a forum manager of a generally active forum would have.

Anywho as not to avert off the topic of partying in HxHD I think the majority of the above posts corresponding to HxL parties in HxHD causing no harm sum up their points quite nicely (albeit a certain catman may have taken a stance which I thought was a little too aggressive :P). As James pointed out partying in HxHD isn't something HxL tends to push, and when HxL DJs do party in HxHD it's nothing we're not able to handle.

[Josh]

It can be annoying if your trying to ask a question and then oh... spam spam spam (Saurav.) enters the room.

It isn't necessarily Saurav spamming, it's users who think they aren't.



aka adding rules for the hell of it. This would simply be pointless and trying to control the DJs too much. Let them do their job.

Why can't they be guidelines?

[Mathew]

Why can't they be guidelines?
A friendly advisory message is fine, but creating a whole new rule (not allowing HxHD parties if there's over 50 listeners for example) is just silly and creates a bad atmosphere.
In my opinion anyway.

[Josh]

A friendly advisory message is fine, but creating a whole new rule (not allowing HxHD parties if there's over 50 listeners for example) is just silly and creates a bad atmosphere.
In my opinion anyway.

I agree but I never meant them to be full on rules. I only meant them to be a guideline for the DJ themselves (take some initiative) to use.

[Gina]

HxL can party in hxl if they want? I mean its like when u go to a habbox event, you hear the chocolate song and people are spamming, same in hxhd but it dosnt mean we should be banned from habbox events? its up to hxl djs where they want to party, it would better in listeners rooms or roxys but yeh, I dont see any rules when I became a dj saying you cant dj in hxhd ??? and sometimes listeners get over welmed by songs but they only last for like 2-3 mins :S

(only my opinion lol)

[Conservative,]

HxL can party in hxl if they want? I mean its like when u go to a habbox event, you hear the chocolate song and people are spamming, same in hxhd but it dosnt mean we should be banned from habbox events? its up to hxl djs where they want to party, it would better in listeners rooms or roxys but yeh, I dont see any rules when I became a dj saying you cant dj in hxhd ??? and sometimes listeners get over welmed by songs but they only last for like 2-3 mins :S

(only my opinion lol)


I have no problem with DJs partying there (and I do on the odd occasion too) but I think over-kill (aka 3, 4, 5+ DJs in there in a row - especially on weekends) needs to stop. I think we need to give some fluidity. There are often events on which we could use instead or listeners rooms or your own room - mine is rubbish but I still use it. HxHD is good and the more people in there the higher it gets on the room list BUT I think excessive use can be a problem from time to time.

I agree with Josh, there needs to be some sort of guideline saying don't party in HxHD for every show, spread it round, go to events, check out listeners rooms, use Roxy's rooms ect.

[despect]

I have no problem with DJs partying there (and I do on the odd occasion too) but I think over-kill (aka 3, 4, 5+ DJs in there in a row - especially on weekends) needs to stop. I think we need to give some fluidity. There are often events on which we could use instead or listeners rooms or your own room - mine is rubbish but I still use it. HxHD is good and the more people in there the higher it gets on the room list BUT I think excessive use can be a problem from time to time.

I agree with Josh, there needs to be some sort of guideline saying don't party in HxHD for every show, spread it round, go to events, check out listeners rooms, use Roxy's rooms ect.

I think thats where your wrong as i've said in my posts DJs shouldnt be partying in HxHD that much as i agree it does get very annoying with 20+ people spamming song lyrics etc. I don't actually see many DJs using HxHD as a party room apart from when theres no point going to a party room as theres only like 20 something listeners during the day.

[Conservative,]

I think thats where your wrong as i've said in my posts DJs shouldnt be partying in HxHD that much as i agree it does get very annoying with 20+ people spamming song lyrics etc. I don't actually see many DJs using HxHD as a party room apart from when theres no point going to a party room as theres only like 20 something listeners during the day.

I didn't say it happens much, I just said it happens and needs to stop. It does happen, especially at weekends as I said.

[despect]

I didn't say it happens much, I just said it happens and needs to stop. It does happen, especially at weekends as I said.

The fact is on weekends i don't actually see HxHD used as much as it used to be. lol.

[Alex3213]

The fact is on weekends i don't actually see HxHD used as much as it used to be. lol.

You're completely right, however like you have said it should only be done when there is no where to go and/or it is pointless to go somewhere.

[despect]

There was a thread posted about making sure that DJs start using listeners rooms if not listeners rooms, roxy's rooms as she has quite a few really good rooms and i'm sure she'd love to have the room rating up, so hopefully the DJs partying in HxHD problem is sorted! :D

[Chippiewill]

HxL can party in hxl if they want? I mean its like when u go to a habbox event, you hear the chocolate song and people are spamming, same in hxhd but it dosnt mean we should be banned from habbox events? its up to hxl djs where they want to party, it would better in listeners rooms or roxys but yeh, I dont see any rules when I became a dj saying you cant dj in hxhd ??? and sometimes listeners get over welmed by songs but they only last for like 2-3 mins :S

(only my opinion lol)

I've mentioned this already however, I shall make it clearer:


HxHD's primary purpose is to help new (or old) Habbos with problems.
HxHD's secondary purpose is to help 'entice' habbos to use habbox.com and habboxforum.com.
HxHD's tertiary purpose is to serve as a 'lounge' for habbox members / habboxlive listeners.

If HxHD's ability to serve it's primary purpose is inhibited by serving the other purposes then those activities should be stopped.
If HxHD's ability to serve it's secondary purpose is inhibited by serving the tertiary purpose then that activity should be stopped. If HxHD's ability to serve it's secondary purpose is inhibited by serving the primary purpose then that activity should not be stopped.
If HxHD's ability to serve it's tertiary purpose is inhibited by serving the other purposes then those activities should not be stopped.

Primary inhibition: "During the whole time no HxHD Staff were online, they probs couldn't get in."
Secondary inhibition: "It can be annoying if your trying to ask a question and then oh... spam spam spam"
Tertiary inhibition: "i think you should ban HxL parties from HxHD!"

If to achieve this it involves having a blanket ban on HxL using HxHD then so be it, that IS harsh. However, an advisory not to use the HxHD at over 50 listeners is not, an advisory to pull out of HxHD if flooding is occuring is not, an advisory to pull out of HxHD if HxHD staff can not get in is not.