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-:Undertaker:-
19-12-2010, 03:17 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financetopics/financialcrisis/8147913/IMFs-Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-wants-fiscal-and-reform-powers-given-to-Europe.html

IMF's Dominique Strauss-Kahn wants fiscal and reform powers given to Europe

A federal Europe, with more sovereign power ceded to the centre, is the best defence against any future crisis, the head of the International Monetary Fund has declared.


http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01766/strauss-kahn_1766834c.jpg



Warning that "the sovereign crisis is not over", Dominique Strauss-Kahn, the IMF managing director and a likely French presidential candidate, called on the European Union to move responsibility for fiscal discipline and structural reform to a central body that is free from the influences of member states.

The proposal from so powerful a figure will dismay Ireland and other peripheral euro-zone nations already fearful of a loss of sovereignty as the price of a bail-out. Ireland is expected to agree a rescue of up to €100bn (£85bn) within days, in the form of a low-cost loan to shore up the banks.

The scale of Ireland's problems was laid bare on Friday by Allied Irish Banks, which revealed that it has lost €13bn of customer deposits – mostly "institutional and corporate" – since the start of the year, 17pc of its entire deposit base.

Its reliance on funding from "monetary authorities" has risen to €27bn from a "high single-digit" billions at the end of June, a spokesman said. Allied now has just €11bn of acceptable collateral left to pledge to institutions like the European Central Bank.

Allied's numbers sent a fresh wave of panic through the markets, pushing Irish bond yields higher and erasing some of the euro's earlier gains.So lets get this straight, one unelected politician (because who the hell elects the IMF?) is telling me that my country should be in normal speak dissolved and that my country would be better run by another group of unelected politicians who lie within the European Union. This is all just one part of a plan for world government, in the words of the famous David Rockefeller (part of the immensely powerful Rockefeller banking family) quote;

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promise of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march toward a world government. The super-national sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries." - David Rockefeller speaking to his fellow global socialists at a meeting in Baden-Baden, Germany, June 1991

These people are so dangerous to democracy and as they are unelected, they seemingly have no boundaries to their crazy utopist ideals - as the famous quote goes 'never waste a good crisis'. The best thing for Ireland to do (as many economists point out) is to leave the Euro and declare bankruptcy as the bailout for Ireland is nothing more than another loan ontop of the other loans they will have to pay back one day.

These people are not consulting the people they serve, it is undemocratic and it is downright dangerous what they plan. The same is happening in the United States where people like Ron Paul have been trying to make people wake up and listen - but as he said only a few weeks ago; that if people want to be treated like cattle then they will be treated as cattle. The 'New World Order' sounds crazy, as the idea is - but you only have to research the likes of the Bilderburg Group members, Rockefeller family, the IMF, Maurice Strong & the UN and so forth to reach a conclusion that something is not right.

The U.S. and European nations are still borrowing beyond their means (including the UK even with these 'cuts') and one day these loans will have to be paid back - in many cases it cannot be paid back simply because they've borrowed too much and thus they should declare bankruptcy to wipe away those debts. The only reason the banks were 'rescued' was to stop the bankers losing out on the money - the banks should lose out because they were the ones who issued these unpayable loans in the first place.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NhfQjarB-M

The worst is still to come it seems, both in finance and the survival of sovereignty.

Thoughts?

HotelUser
19-12-2010, 04:01 AM
Doesn't the IMF also encourage things like privatizing the water industry in incredibly poor regions of Africa?

I thought a lot of Europe's problem was being to buddy buddy with whoever's next door - taking that to a whole new level wont do any good.

GommeInc
20-12-2010, 05:24 PM
Just some nobody blagging on about something he doesn't know about probably as a puppet for some other nobody who wouldn't be missed if he was struck dead one night or seriously injured.

Europe's problem is the terrible currency which has crippled itself and the countries the other countries around them. Norway and Switzerland are the only countries (as well as the UK) which have done well to survive a global economic crisis on their own steam. although the UK has more problems because it has to support a dying organisation that just won't quit when everyone knows the EU was going to fail. Giving it more power just means more money going missing and wouldn't help support.

ifuseekamy
20-12-2010, 11:41 PM
Someone give the Queen the right to free speech already, I doubt she'd stand for this **** from a bunch of daft european geeks who've endlessly worked to ebb away at Britain's sovereignty and influence. The Rothschilds already control all the world's money anyway, hence the only "aid" the IMF actually gives is to bail out banks rather than feed the starving.

Inseriousity.
20-12-2010, 11:50 PM
lolol omg I didn't know there was someone called rockefeller.
"dad can i buy..."
"who do you think I am, a rockefeller?"
"err yeah"

Anyway yeah serious topic. Britain should keep the pound for financial and cultural reasons. If the EU wants to get rid of that then we should get rid of them. However, while someone may suggest it, I actually doubt it'll ever get to that stage. While unelected, EU politicians aren't stupid. They know they'll be committing political suicide to create another 'Roman Empire'.

Eoin247
21-12-2010, 12:09 AM
This will never happen, there would be far too much outrage in far too many countries. I don't really have any fear of this happening in my life.

-:Undertaker:-
21-12-2010, 12:51 AM
The tactics these people use have been in motion for many years now, the wheels set in motion by the master of deception Jean Monnet who wanted a single, centralised European superstate created. The method they use is quite simple, via stealth. The hollowing out effect, much like carving a pumpkin. They, by stealth, start carving out powers scoop after scoop taking them away from democratic parliaments and placing them in the hands of the EU commission and its court systems. In order to keep the pretence, they keep national departments in place the best examples of which are now totally useless and powerless are the Departments for agriculture, energy, fisheries etc with other departments rapidly losing power.

Any remaining powers are controlled via Brussels through the remaining powers that the national departments hold, and thus we are to all become 'European'. I believe it was Michael Heseltine (Tory MP) who once said that Britain would one day disappear from national memory.

These people are serious, they've been at it for years.


lolol omg I didn't know there was someone called rockefeller.
"dad can i buy..."
"who do you think I am, a rockefeller?"
"err yeah"

Anyway yeah serious topic. Britain should keep the pound for financial and cultural reasons. If the EU wants to get rid of that then we should get rid of them. However, while someone may suggest it, I actually doubt it'll ever get to that stage. While unelected, EU politicians aren't stupid. They know they'll be committing political suicide to create another 'Roman Empire'.

"For the first time since the Roman Empire we have the opportunity to unite Europe." - Romano Prodi, former (unelected) EU Commissioner.

Eoin247
21-12-2010, 12:54 AM
Although i dont agree with this i can see why he wants this.

If the right person was put in charge it would theoretically be great as (correct?) decisions get made straight away and time isnt wasted voting, revoting, discussing etc.

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