Eastenders baby plot

[smiffy70]

carrying on from the previouse thread on this, ronnie and kat will be going into labour at the same time very soon and unfortunatly when kat is taken back to hospital, ronnies baby james will die. BUT now she is left alon with two babbies, one dead and one alive, will the longing for a baby make her do the unthinkable and STEAL kats?!

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[Jordan]

SPOILLERRRRRRS,

but yeah :

I think she steals kats in the end i read it somewhere, this is going to be great, can't wait for christmas aswell. Any ideas how stacey leaves? Or does she just get arrested and taken to jail?

[Deak]

I've also read that she does steal Kats baby...

[Shar]

I heard that Ronnie's baby dies a cot death and she stoops so low and steals Kat's baby.

[Chris]

Ive read the soap mag. xD

Ronnie runs into the vic for help but hears Kat's baby crying, so in a panic swaps them over and some how gets away with it..

[dbgtz]

SPOILLERRRRRRS,

but yeah :

I think she steals kats in the end i read it somewhere, this is going to be great, can't wait for christmas aswell. Any ideas how stacey leaves? Or does she just get arrested and taken to jail?

shes not arrested as far as im aware as they want her open so she can come back, and murder sentances last a while so xD

[smiffy70]

SPOILLERRRRRRS,

but yeah :

I think she steals kats in the end i read it somewhere, this is going to be great, can't wait for christmas aswell. Any ideas how stacey leaves? Or does she just get arrested and taken to jail?


my uncles mate works for the soap peoples and basically on xmas day lauren ( max's daughter) gives janine the clip of stacey admitting to the killing. with that there are many ways to end it hwich have been thought up to keep it a mystery, but the 2 main ways are, janine runs into the vic and plays the recording forcing her to flee, and janine goes to the police forcing her to flee.


but its ok coz her sister is joining the cast

[Sharon]

my uncles mate works for the soap peoples and basically on xmas day lauren ( max's daughter) gives janine the clip of stacey admitting to the killing. with that there are many ways to end it hwich have been thought up to keep it a mystery, but the 2 main ways are, janine runs into the vic and plays the recording forcing her to flee, and janine goes to the police forcing her to flee.


but its ok coz her sister is joining the cast

I knew that ... it's on the internet?

Whatsontv or Digitalspy people - they are basically spoiler websites

[Roxy]

I actually don't like this storyline, imo it's really sick + unrealistic. Gutted that Stacey's leaving too - she was one of my fav characters :( Anyone know what happens with her + Ryan once she's gone?

[kuzkasate]

I am sure I posted this whole Kat & Ronnie storyline in November.. anyway, I hope Stacey's leave is epic, something to remember, not just driving off in a black cab or in the back of a police car.

[smiffy70]

they actually had to cut out some of the scenes so they dont upset viewers

[Ajthedragon]

This storyline is so unrealistic.

[Sharon]

How horrible. :'(Ronnie is so cruel.

[Shar]

I also think she's cruel but I think the writer is even more harsh.
She's lost 3 children now. A grown one, miscarriage and a cot death :'(

[Chris]

Why does Ronnie never get the happy ending? :/

[luce]

Why does Ronnie never get the happy ending? :/

because if she got a happy ending then the character would loose all it's appeal. Ronnie is a character written not to be happy it's very hard to do but if you think most TV series have one. Like just when you think she's got what she wanted ie Danielle it gets taken away so you watch for the next time to see if it works out and then again and then again.

But yeah this story line is so unrealistic and i think they have taken ronnie too far this time. It doesn't just give her bad luck it makes her a "bad person" and imo it's ruined the character for me. They are getting desperate. Stacey's leave was done well but now this? It's not right. Kat isn't a character that suites "greif" but it does show a sensitive side to the gobby one now stace has gone she needs to fill the role.

[Judas]

god i feel so sorry for them both lol i barely ever watch it but im watching it now, if i was ronnie id probably have killed myself shes had a crap life

[Shar]

god i feel so sorry for them both lol i barely ever watch it but im watching it now, if i was ronnie id probably have killed myself shes had a crap life

same, I'd get so depressed. the writers are cruel :'(

[Suspective]

Its horrible watching it. I just hope they don't let it go on for years, as I couldn't bare to watch it knowing for that long :P

[Chris]

Yeah I hate it when they drag on for months and months, it gets so boring. Anyway, looks like cat is going to find out pretty soon.

[lawrawrrr]

They have actually said somewhere this is going to be a long plot line though... Don't quite know how it's going to happen with tonight's episode in mind though :/

[Calvin]

I hope it isn't long Laura, I really hate long boring storylines :( And this episode is reaching 6,000 complaints which is pretty damn stupid. Why the hell watch it if it's so "bad"? Eurgh they moan at anything, idiots.

BBC have also confirmed that Samantha Womack (Ronnie) has quit Eastenders due to her current storyline. Link: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a296250/womack-quits-eastenders-over-cot-death-plot.html

[Chris]

I hope it isn't long Laura, I really hate long boring storylines :( And this episode is reaching 6,000 complaints which is pretty damn stupid. Why the hell watch it if it's so "bad"? Eurgh they moan at anything, idiots.

BBC have also confirmed that Samantha Womack (Ronnie) has quit Eastenders due to her current storyline. Link: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a296250/womack-quits-eastenders-over-cot-death-plot.html

Nooo, she can't leave, she is a great character! It's a shame that they did have to take it so far. :[

[dbgtz]

Nooo, she can't leave, she is a great character! It's a shame that they did have to take it so far. :[

at least roxanne is still there :D

i dislike this story line, too dull

[kuzkasate]

I dont see how it is unrealistic, but for me it was too boring. There was just no point in that storyline what so ever... I would of much rather seen those two boys grow up together and become best friends and stuff, but ohwell.

[smiffy70]

I hope it isn't long Laura, I really hate long boring storylines :( And this episode is reaching 6,000 complaints which is pretty damn stupid. Why the hell watch it if it's so "bad"? Eurgh they moan at anything, idiots.

BBC have also confirmed that Samantha Womack (Ronnie) has quit Eastenders due to her current storyline. Link: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a296250/womack-quits-eastenders-over-cot-death-plot.html

soza skizzling but that aint true,


this includes a stament from her agent saying
her contract is actually gunna naturally end so she can have a break for a while.
http://tv.uk.msn.com/news/articles.aspx?cp-documentid=155771200

[Jordan]

She said she was resigning in November when she saw her script, but was letting it end on it's own so she's with us for the next year still!

But am I the only one who just goes, 'It's not even real' I don't care if it's unrealistic, Eastenders is something I watch nothing they have done do i have a problem with

[lawrawrrr]

the thing is, the whole cot death is really serious then there's the completel soap "imma steal your baby and get away with it", which IMO just seems a little weird. I seriously hope this does get sorted out soon, i feel bad for ronnie because she's been through so much!

and the whole complaint thing is like, silly, because if they didnt do big things like this, everyone would complain that they're boring
and they need to "raise awareness" for this cause, it's not like they didn't do their homework into writing the ep!

[Toasten]

Horrible story line.. and the complaint is quite interesting tbh!

[kuzkasate]

I think it is quite realistic.. I mean if your baby just died, third child thats died after you expected everything to go fabulous and it just dies.. just like that. And then if you run out onto the street and no-one is there to help you like your mum, sister etc your obviously in a shock.. you dont know what your doing and then if you hear a baby cry and go upstairs to see it and then swap it, they are all effects of shock.. who knows what anybody is capable of when they are in that state?

[smiffy70]

the thing is, the whole cot death is really serious then there's the completel soap "imma steal your baby and get away with it", which IMO just seems a little weird. I seriously hope this does get sorted out soon, i feel bad for ronnie because she's been through so much!

and the whole complaint thing is like, silly, because if they didnt do big things like this, everyone would complain that they're boring
and they need to "raise awareness" for this cause, it's not like they didn't do their homework into writing the ep!


mainly conerning your first spoiler
no-body knows what they would do in a situation as devistating as that

[Suspective]

Today's episode wasn't as bad as most of them, even though I'm sure it will get worse. The thing is if they just did a simple death, it wouldn't be as dramatic as the swap especially over Christmas when everyone is expecting an explosive episode. It isn't going to last as long as they would of hoped due to the exits which are planned in a few months time.

There is always going to be complaints when they do a big storyline such as this one, the death of Danielle got more complaints than this one despite in my opinion it not being as bad at all compared to this one which is highly controversial.

[ifuseekamy]

Some people need to get a grip and realise it's not real. If people cared this much about real life issues then the world would probably be a better place. Instead you have weirdos leaving flowers outside TV studios for dead plot devices and laying all their sympathy on some character played by a Eurovision loser.

[dbgtz]

Today's episode wasn't as bad as most of them, even though I'm sure it will get worse. The thing is if they just did a simple death, it wouldn't be as dramatic as the swap especially over Christmas when everyone is expecting an explosive episode. It isn't going to last as long as they would of hoped due to the exits which are planned in a few months time.

There is always going to be complaints when they do a big storyline such as this one, the death of Danielle got more complaints than this one despite in my opinion it not being as bad at all compared to this one which is highly controversial.

Because everyone, such as myself, loved danielle :D

[Nemo]

I hated danielle but her dying made me stop watching eastenders (and i stuck to my word). It was the most ******ed ending to a story and i dont understand why they can't just have one happy ending, drama after drama, far too depressing.

I dont like ronnie either so it wasnt even the characters getting sad that i didnt like

and this storyline is stupid

k im done

[ifuseekamy]

I hated danielle but her dying made me stop watching eastenders (and i stuck to my word). It was the most ******ed ending to a story and i dont understand why they can't just have one happy ending, drama after drama, far too depressing.

I dont like ronnie either so it wasnt even the characters getting sad that i didnt like

and this storyline is stupid

k im done
Because the actress who plays Ronnie didn't like the actress who played Danielle so got her axed like she did with the actress who played Suzy Branning lol

[Nemo]

Because the actress who plays Ronnie didn't like the actress who played Danielle so got her axed like she did with the actress who played Suzy Branning lol
well suzy branning was ******* annoying aswell, whats so special about ronnie

[samsaBEAR]

This storyline makes me sad, not because of the baby's death, because I like Kat and Alfie and how they were really happy and stuff ;_; I hope they get Tommy back in the end, and it isn't one of those storylines that gets found out in like ten years time or something stupid like that

[samsaBEAR]

Also charlie is the worst ******* actor ever, he needs to be bumped off soon

[Mrs.McCall]

Charlie leaves as a result of his guilt over Tommy "dying".

This whole storyline has been blown WAY out of proportion. The whole "they're making cot death victims look mental" thing is ridiculous. Ronnie's actions stem from her as a character not as a result of the cot death. That argument is stupid because Kat is handling it with dignity. I just don't get people's problems. The swap isn't being used as a sensationalist story, it was put in place for the spiralling of Ronnie's character and subsequent exit storyline. Now months of scripts and filming will go out the window due to 6,000 people with nothing better to do. No doubt they didn't see the show!! It's the whole Ross/Brand Sachsgate incident all over again.

Also, nobody complained a few months ago when Carol Jackson spent an entire episode hugging the dead corpse of her child. Nothing was in the media. It's all stupid because now we're gonna end up with poor storylines because they've had to rush them through.

[kuzkasate]

This storyline makes me sad, not because of the baby's death, because I like Kat and Alfie and how they were really happy and stuff ;_; I hope they get Tommy back in the end, and it isn't one of those storylines that gets found out in like ten years time or something stupid like that
They were originally going to drag the story on for a bit, but because of pathetic people, they have announced that the storyline will finish early


Also charlie is the worst ******* actor ever, he needs to be bumped off soon
Charlie leaves next week I think, he is a terrible actor


Charlie leaves as a result of his guilt over Tommy "dying".

This whole storyline has been blown WAY out of proportion. The whole "they're making cot death victims look mental" thing is ridiculous. Ronnie's actions stem from her as a character not as a result of the cot death. That argument is stupid because Kat is handling it with dignity. I just don't get people's problems. The swap isn't being used as a sensationalist story, it was put in place for the spiralling of Ronnie's character and subsequent exit storyline. Now months of scripts and filming will go out the window due to 6,000 people with nothing better to do. No doubt they didn't see the show!! It's the whole Ross/Brand Sachsgate incident all over again.

Also, nobody complained a few months ago when Carol Jackson spent an entire episode hugging the dead corpse of her child. Nothing was in the media. It's all stupid because now we're gonna end up with poor storylines because they've had to rush them through.
I totally agree. I was listening to Bryan Kirkwood's interview and he said that the whole "baby cot death" idea was recommended by consultants like 9 years ago and since then they were planning to find a suitable time to use that storyline, so literally, years of ideas, months of scripts, hard-work dedication is wasted. I just find it said that they wanted to use this storyline and were keeping it and hoping for something big, yet pathetic people complain about it. Its a bloody soap, what do you expect? If you don't like it, fine, don't watch it, its not like they are being forced and tbh if I was Bryan Kirkwood, I would literally tell all the people that complained to stick their complaints where the sun doesnt shine. Dont like it? Dont watch it.

[dbgtz]

Because the actress who plays Ronnie didn't like the actress who played Danielle so got her axed like she did with the actress who played Suzy Branning lol

*REMOVED* lauren crace (danielle) was only on a 6 month contract. if you watched the eastenders special aired after it about ronnie and roxy (or something) you would know that a producer or someone said how once she (ronnie) had life sorted, they wanted to take it all away again, or something like that. I guess its a similar idea this time.

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[Chris]

I guess some people find it quiet disturbing to watch, but it's a shame the storey has to be ended early after all the efffort thats gone into making it.

[user130523]

been told by friends who have been reading magazines that this is going to happen

- ronnie confesses to kat
- kat beats up ronnie
- kat gets tommy back
- ronnie dies

[Nuxty]

I don't think its fair to call Ronnie cruel, I think maybe something more along the lines of mentally unstable... She hasn't harmed the child and she has taken good care of him since she has stolen him, I don't agree with what she has done, but you have to remember shes suffered a hell of a lot of bereavement over the last few years. I think the storyline of cot death is acceptable as this is something that happens, however the stealing of the baby isn't something we hear about or associate with cot death so I think thats what has angered a lot of people. Don't get me wrong though, I have found it hard to watch and it had me slightly emotional at certain points!

Samantha Womack who plays Ronnie is a fantastic actress in my opinion. I hope they give her a good exit, but they better not make it any better than Lacey Turner's as she is the real East End star in my opinion, amazing actress!

[Chris]

been told by friends who have been reading magazines that this is going to happen

- ronnie confesses to kat
- kat beats up ronnie
- kat gets tommy back
- ronnie dies

When is this supposedly going to happen? Next week?

[Shar]

I don't think its fair to call Ronnie cruel, I think maybe something more along the lines of mentally unstable... She hasn't harmed the child and she has taken good care of him since she has stolen him, I don't agree with what she has done, but you have to remember shes suffered a hell of a lot of bereavement over the last few years. I think the storyline of cot death is acceptable as this is something that happens, however the stealing of the baby isn't something we hear about or associate with cot death so I think thats what has angered a lot of people. Don't get me wrong though, I have found it hard to watch and it had me slightly emotional at certain points!

Samantha Womack who plays Ronnie is a fantastic actress in my opinion. I hope they give her a good exit, but they better not make it any better than Lacey Turner's as she is the real East End star in my opinion, amazing actress!

been told by friends who have been reading magazines that this is going to happen

- ronnie confesses to kat
- kat beats up ronnie
- kat gets tommy back
- ronnie dies
Sounds good!

I agree with your opinions Charlie :)

I might actually watch Eastenders just for this!

[Nuxty]

I must say as well, this storyline has impressed me as I've seen Shane Richie do some serious acting! He is great as the comedian of the show but it is nice to see the otherside of him at times.

I hope they don't kill Ronnie off! God imagine that, some life she'd have had!

[Mrs.McCall]

Samantha Womack, Jessie Wallace and Shane Richie have all blown me away. Knew Sam and Jessie were good but Shane been a real revelation.

[Jordan]

When is this supposedly going to happen? Next week?

It's been said early spring I think.

But's it's a shame, I was loving the whole thing.

[Mrs.McCall]

The storyline is said to finish in April.

[tylermunjkt]

Apprently in a magazine it said Ronnie Mitchel ( Samantha Womack ) Is Going to LEAVE Eastenders. This Is after the many complaints ( 9,000 )! 9,000 Complains.. Alot!, When she was Walking in town with her kids some person came up to her and said: ''You Sad Woman'' And im Like: " Shes acting! " :P All these Complains are for the Baby Plot with Ronnie And Kat.

Should There of been This Many COMPLAINTS? Post here :)

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[Jordan]

She isn't leaving because of that plot. She handed in her resignation several months ago.

[Mrs.McCall]

The News Of The World is leading with an "exclusive" and make it seem like it's come from Sam. It then reveals that apparently a "pal" of hers said stuff. So sensationlist.

[Molly.22]

been told by friends who have been reading magazines that this is going to happen

- ronnie confesses to kat
- kat beats up ronnie
- kat gets tommy back
- ronnie dies

I don't think shes going to die as on the Eastenders website it says that the door is open for her to return - http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/eastenders/2011/01/sam-womacks-departure.shtml

[Chris]

Apprently in a magazine it said Ronnie Mitchel ( Samantha Womack ) Is Going to LEAVE Eastenders. This Is after the many complaints ( 9,000 )! 9,000 Complains.. Alot!, When she was Walking in town with her kids some person came up to her and said: ''You Sad Woman'' And im Like: " Shes acting! " :P All these Complains are for the Baby Plot with Ronnie And Kat.

Should There of been This Many COMPLAINTS? Post here :)

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Yeah her resignation is just coincidence. What she has had to act must have been extremely difficult to do. Even if she was leaving because of it, who could blame her.

[Mrs.McCall]

I imagine Glenda will put two and two together and convince her to do the right thing. Ronnie will tell Kat, Kat will beat her up. Ronnie then tells Kat to phone the police, Kat tells her no because she knows how she must've felt. She tells Ronnie to go. Ronnie exits in the back of a cab.

[ifuseekamy]

She would've had to quit (as in choose not to extend her contract) or been axed anyway. The character can't recover from something like this.

[Gibs960]

I think that the whole storyline just got out of control. My mum says that it's just ridiculous because if that had happened their baby (the baby died), then no mother on earth, unless they had some mental illness before the baby, would swap the baby. My mum also says it makes her feel sick because it's just taking it too far.

[dbgtz]

I think that the whole storyline just got out of control. My mum says that it's just ridiculous because if that had happened their baby (the baby died), then no mother on earth, unless they had some mental illness before the baby, would swap the baby. My mum also says it makes her feel sick because it's just taking it too far.

She had 3 kids, they all died, she obviously did have a mental break down.

Besides, if you think about it, everyone on eastenders has some sort of mental problem. Phil has a booze/coke problem (which is linked to addiction bla bla), heather is addicted to food, jean and stacey are bi-polar, charlie is ******ed for leaving a new born on its own. I could go on.

[ifuseekamy]

I think that the whole storyline just got out of control. My mum says that it's just ridiculous because if that had happened their baby (the baby died), then no mother on earth, unless they had some mental illness before the baby, would swap the baby. My mum also says it makes her feel sick because it's just taking it too far.
So don't watch it? It's like watching a horror movie then complaining that it scared you afterwards then watching its sequels.

[Mrs.McCall]

Also, Ronnie isn't any old mother. She IS mentally ill due to years of abuse and bad things happening to her.

[samsaBEAR]

been told by friends who have been reading magazines that this is going to happen

- ronnie confesses to kat
- kat beats up ronnie
- kat gets tommy back
- ronnie dies
why the ******* **** did i ******* click this. god damn it

[beth]

why the ******* **** did i ******* click this. god damn it

now you made me click it and it's all ruined. life is over.

[Monty]

I don't like the storyline it's ever so stressful :S

[kuzkasate]

I think that the whole storyline just got out of control. My mum says that it's just ridiculous because if that had happened their baby (the baby died), then no mother on earth, unless they had some mental illness before the baby, would swap the baby. My mum also says it makes her feel sick because it's just taking it too far.
In all fairness, thats just your mum's opinion. "No mother on earth" - well infact, thats not true.. Ronnie has had a terrible life, she was raped at 13 by her father, her daughter died, she had a miscarriage and then her new born dies unexpectedly. These are things that will haunt you for the rest of your life, these thing are enough to turn someone mental. Ronnie was in a state of shock, she thought everything just worked out, a new life, but no. You can't say that "no mother on earth" will do that because I bet quite a few would because nobody knows how you will act when your in the position Ronnie is in and no one will know what you will do when your in a shock like her.

[Sharon]

In all fairness, thats just your mum's opinion. "No mother on earth" - well infact, thats not true.. Ronnie has had a terrible life, she was raped at 13 by her father, her daughter died, she had a miscarriage and then her new born dies unexpectedly. These are things that will haunt you for the rest of your life, these thing are enough to turn someone mental. Ronnie was in a state of shock, she thought everything just worked out, a new life, but no. You can't say that "no mother on earth" will do that because I bet quite a few would because nobody knows how you will act when your in the position Ronnie is in and no one will know what you will do when your in a shock like her.

Absoloutley agree. Me and my mum watched a documentry where something like a woman had a baby and their cousin set their house on fire and told the woman her baby was in there, yet she took the baby and raised her for around 5 years secretly. The woman always knew the baby wasn't in there though and the cousin took the kid to family party and the woman took some of the kids hair and did all the DNA stuff :/

Theres really are some people like this irl?