what your doctors are telling you

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so anyone who knows me in real life knows i'm the most gullible health conscience person ever.
i follow dr douglass very religiously but came across an article about moderate smoking & frequent drinking saving your life. i do believe everything on earth has their uses (minus some people unfortunately) or else they wouldn't be here. anywayyy i want to share this guys work:
http://douglassreport.com/find-out-what-your-doctors-not-telling-you/

basically, he says (stuff you're normally told to avoid):
- a vegetarian diet is bad for you
- coffee is good for you
- beer is good for the bones
- we don't NEED water, especially not tap because
- it contains fluoride. yes, that stuff in your toothpaste. a poison used to kill rats. & absorbs into your blood easily. (fyi i don't use toothpaste. nor shampoo. if you're not a narrow-minded brainwashed ****** then by all means ask for my alternative. both my hairdresser and dentist say i have healthy teeth/gums & hair so sorry i won't listen to society if something works for me)
- sun IS good for you. just not when you're wet.
- low-fat, not high fat, contributes to breast cancer
- low cholesterol is worse than high cholesterol
- hydrogen peroxide can save your life. idk how o
- intense exercise is bad for you (yoga ftw)

(articles here if you want to read: http://douglassreport.com/daily-dose-news/)

he's not even a troll btw but his articles do bring some humour to them ;p
so who agrees with what? or am i just being my over analysing, perfectionist self? are we brainwashed by our health advisor's? does everything in this world kill us? are there certain rules we MUST take in order to life a successful, healthy life?
anyone follow any rules they "should" go against? i can provide negatives on any "health" recommendations if anyone wants but i'm off for my 7 hours sleep (which is better than the 'necessary' 8.....)

[Metric1]

I'm gunna keep living my life then hahah, what kind of shampoo do you use?

[ben]

sounds kl

[Nemo]

what do u use instead of toothpaste?

n good, all vegetarians must be eradicated

[wixard]

i'm gonna be honest
everything kills us these days so i don't really give a ****
i'm going to die some way or another so i don't really care if it's from bad health
i'm sure my non meat diet and shampoo use wont bring that much harm/damage to me

[FlyingJesus]

Stress is the biggest killer, that's why studies into drinkers and smokers living longer or whatever can never really be 100% accurate - wealthy areas of the South of France or whatever they (stereotype alert, so sue me) sit around drinking wine and smoking heavy tobacco, eating huge amounts of red meat, eggs and dairy. They also have a far longer life expenctancy than a health conscious teetotal city-dweller with a fast paced job and a vegan diet, because unless you hve specific health problems that require you to cut down on certain food types (diabetes or stuff like that) having a steak instead of a quorn sausage isn't going to take years off your life, but constantly worrying about it might

[Inseriousity.]

I think most vegetarians are more concerned with the ethical treatment of animals rather than the health aspect so even if it was considered bad for them, I doubt many would change that habit. (un)fortunately I love burgers too much to care.

100% of keep fit fanatics die. That's my motto and favourite statistic :D

[lawrawrrr]

All of his points have some truth in them, especially those ones listed. But, as far as beer and hydrogen peroxide? Moderation. Or death...

[Casanova]

Hydrogen peroxide may be good because it opens your pores/cuticles and I can only assume it does the same when intaken via your diet. ie it helps you induce certain goodness from what you're consuming. But then it could work the opposite way?

Personally I don't think anything is 'correct' in life. I think everyone is different. Precisely the reason why there's roughly ten treatments to one problem. If everything in life was 'right' in theory we wouldn't have any issues for anyone.

I never listen to my doctor. The last one I had was a legend. Lovely guy. I normally end up losing it with doctors because they ignore me or play down my problem. That's the opposite of what I want!

[Jordy]

Call me naive but the website's for "subscribers" and you have to pay to access half of it, it could all just be made up to make a load of money..?

And for instance I'm vegetarian but I don't suffer from any of the following and never have done, so it makes me wonder whether the rest is nonsense as well;


VEGETARIAN KIDS ARE SICKLIER. The Archives of Pediatric Adolescent Medicine reports that children reared on these diets are at higher risk for 'impaired psychomotor development.

VEGETARIAN DIETS WON'T EVEN MAKE YOU MORE REGULAR. Even teenage vegetarians are 8 times more likely to use laxatives!
AND THEY could SAP YOUR SEX LIFE AND YOUR STRENGTH. This is not a myth. In fact, researchers at the University of Massachusetts Medical School have linked meatless, low-protein diets to slumping sex function and muscle loss and bone damage.

I agree with FlyingJesus though, a lack of stress and happiness is key to a long and healthy lifestyle.

[FlyingJesus]

lmao teen vegetarians are 8x as likely to use laxatives because of the large number of bulimics who are vegetarian

[Eoin247]

Hydrogen peroxide saving your life?

I remember my friend turning ginger when he left it in his hair for a day, didn't do him any good anyway.

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what do u use instead of toothpaste?

n good, all vegetarians must be eradicated
good old baking soda and oil pulling in the morning. my gran, mum and aunties do it but i only started :)

i'm gonna be honest
everything kills us these days so i don't really give a ****
i'm going to die some way or another so i don't really care if it's from bad health
i'm sure my non meat diet and shampoo use wont bring that much harm/damage to me
well don't mean to be a know-it-all but pretty sure shampoo is really dangerous. it has sulfates in it (which are also in batteries, cleaning agents etc). i'm allergic to sulfates so i read a lot about it. you should google it. i mean, shampoo hasn't even been around long with all the chemicals and stuff. i prefer old-fashion remedies but it's possible over time humans can adapt to these like many things before but meh

Call me naive but the website's for "subscribers" and you have to pay to access half of it, it could all just be made up to make a load of money..?

And for instance I'm vegetarian but I don't suffer from any of the following and never have done, so it makes me wonder whether the rest is nonsense as well;



VEGETARIAN KIDS ARE SICKLIER. The Archives of Pediatric Adolescent Medicine reports that children reared on these diets are at higher risk for 'impaired psychomotor development.
VEGETARIAN DIETS WON'T EVEN MAKE YOU MORE REGULAR. Even teenage vegetarians are 8 times more likely to use laxatives!
AND THEY could SAP YOUR SEX LIFE AND YOUR STRENGTH. This is not a myth. In fact, researchers at the University of Massachusetts Medical School have linked meatless, low-protein diets to slumping sex function and muscle loss and bone damage.


I agree with FlyingJesus though, a lack of stress and happiness is key to a long and healthy lifestyle.

lmao teen vegetarians are 8x as likely to use laxatives because of the large number of bulimics who are vegetarian
lol he jumps in to things really quickly i know but a lot of his articles really do make sense.

[Wig44.]

Wow, someone else on this forum who realises that eatwell and NHS/your GP's nutritional advice is really bad. But hey, it sells pharmaceuticals. Quite a bit of what this guy says is rubbish. But he has got a lot right too.

Beer is awful for you, maltose provokes an extremely powerful insulinemic response (it is just two glucose molecules after all..), any increase in bone density from beer could be achieved by dropping grains from your diet.

Coffee is not good for you, it does damage the heart. As for Gallstones:

"Fats are not soluble in water. Before dietary fat can be digested, it has to be emulsified. Bile is used for this purpose. The liver makes bile continuously and stores it in the gall bladder until such time as it is needed. However, if a low-fat diet is eaten, that bile remains in the gall bladder.

Gallstones are formed when the gall bladder is not emptied on a regular basis. In people who continually resort to low-fat diets, bile is stored for long periods in the gall bladder — and it stagnates."

Most water in the UK doesn't actually have fluorine added to the water. But I agree that it isn't necessary to drink water, you only need about 1 litre per day which you can get from food, from condensation reactions etc. Plus, mineral levels tend to be really horribly imbalanced in tap water.

Sunlight is definitely a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. Burning frequently is probably not a good idea. Skin cancer is caused by eating excess polyunsaturates, too little mono- and saturated fatty acids (amongst other things), but one of the biggest factors in skin cancer is definitely sun cream. Sun cream is just bad.

Predominantly animal based diets, high in saturated fat, moderate protein and low carbohydrate levels are best in my opinion. Carbohydrates aren't necessarily villains themselves but 99% of modern sources of CHO are bad in my opinion. Higher cholesterol levels, with low VLDL levels are best. High HDL is possibly a response to damage to the arteries and not protective - raising it isn't going to help. Just like LDL isn't actually bad unless it's the small dense, easily oxidised LDL that damage the endothelium. Caused by excess carbohydrates.

Hydrogen peroxide can be used for bathing and some people supposedly drink it.. not life saving in my opinion.

Now when he says intense exercise I'm not sure if he means things like endurance running and jogging - if he does I agree with him. If he means short intense bursts of activity, like weight lifting or sprinting, done a few times a week then I would disagree. Walking at a steady pace is possibly the best exercise, with some sprints or weight lifting every couple of days (say 3x a week). We were not born for endurance running.

I hope you actually read this, would be interesting to hear your thoughts. Oh and lastly I do think that we are brainwashed. Not in the early-20th-century-soviet sense of the word though. Looking at pretty basic biology/biochemistry you can easily see the gaping holes in the low fat theory.

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Wow, someone else on this forum who realises that eatwell and NHS/your GP's nutritional advice is really bad. But hey, it sells pharmaceuticals. Quite a bit of what this guy says is rubbish. But he has got a lot right too.

Beer is awful for you, maltose provokes an extremely powerful insulinemic response (it is just two glucose molecules after all..), any increase in bone density from beer could be achieved by dropping grains from your diet.

Coffee is not good for you, it does damage the heart. As for Gallstones:

"Fats are not soluble in water. Before dietary fat can be digested, it has to be emulsified. Bile is used for this purpose. The liver makes bile continuously and stores it in the gall bladder until such time as it is needed. However, if a low-fat diet is eaten, that bile remains in the gall bladder.

Gallstones are formed when the gall bladder is not emptied on a regular basis. In people who continually resort to low-fat diets, bile is stored for long periods in the gall bladder — and it stagnates."

Most water in the UK doesn't actually have fluorine added to the water. But I agree that it isn't necessary to drink water, you only need about 1 litre per day which you can get from food, from condensation reactions etc. Plus, mineral levels tend to be really horribly imbalanced in tap water.

Sunlight is definitely a GOOD thing, not a bad thing. Burning frequently is probably not a good idea. Skin cancer is caused by eating excess polyunsaturates, too little mono- and saturated fatty acids (amongst other things), but one of the biggest factors in skin cancer is definitely sun cream. Sun cream is just bad.

Predominantly animal based diets, high in saturated fat, moderate protein and low carbohydrate levels are best in my opinion. Carbohydrates aren't necessarily villains themselves but 99% of modern sources of CHO are bad in my opinion. Higher cholesterol levels, with low VLDL levels are best. High HDL is possibly a response to damage to the arteries and not protective - raising it isn't going to help. Just like LDL isn't actually bad unless it's the small dense, easily oxidised LDL that damage the endothelium. Caused by excess carbohydrates.

Hydrogen peroxide can be used for bathing and some people supposedly drink it.. not life saving in my opinion.

Now when he says intense exercise I'm not sure if he means things like endurance running and jogging - if he does I agree with him. If he means short intense bursts of activity, like weight lifting or sprinting, done a few times a week then I would disagree. Walking at a steady pace is possibly the best exercise, with some sprints or weight lifting every couple of days (say 3x a week). We were not born for endurance running.

I hope you actually read this, would be interesting to hear your thoughts. Oh and lastly I do think that we are brainwashed. Not in the early-20th-century-soviet sense of the word though. Looking at pretty basic biology/biochemistry you can easily see the gaping holes in the low fat theory.

wow i do not know half this stuff! thanks for the reply though, i'll try give my views as best as i can haha but i am conflicted over a lot of stuff that is apparently 'right' or 'wrong'

i agree with beer and coffee most definitely but i don't think all alcohol is that bad.. moderately of course. just the same as most things.
i never understood vegetarians, nor do i want to get in to a debate about it. it's their choice but we are meat eaters by nature. i think it should stay that way but who am i to judge. all sorts of foods whether they're supposed to be good or bad for you are all full of extra sugar/fat or have proccessed all the good outta it now adays anyway that no-one has a clue the **** going inside them. this is probably a bad time to live in foodwise because everythings just about money. which is why i prefer all natural foods and not packaged from a shop.

really, don't they? i thought fluoride was in most water. & i agree, providing you eat fruits and vegetables (which tend to have excess sugar nowadays too T_T) you'll get the water you need. too much water is a bad thing.

omg yeah suncream lol all the advice "wear suncream and moisturiser everyday" is ridiculous! just cover yourself up and you'll be fine. i'd much rather have vitamin d than chemicals i can't even pronounce in my body thanks.

what's cho? they're in bread, right? the advice on bread is a mess.... as for saturated fats, i think they're fine providing they're dairy/meat/nuts/oils.

it's funny, people have a totally skewed perception on hydrogen peroxide. it's simply water + extra oxygen. everyone think it's more toxic than water when in fact water itself is pretty toxic. i personally only use hydrogen peroxide for wounds. i actually don't know why but my gran used it on me often when i got loads of rashes from stingy nettles!

jogging/running can't be all that bad if done rarely. i'm not sure why you're saying we're not born for it if it's a basic fight-or-flight response? walking is most definitely the best exercise considering it's needed and used in every day life. it's so simple to do and gives the same benefits as jogging/running. it doesn't matter how far you run/jog it's for how long you do it. with walking you have more energy to do it longer and thus burn off more. plus running and jogging increases your chances of injury.

obviously you are much more knowledgeable on weight lifting than so you can explain why you think it's not too bad on you? i always thought it was a new sort of fad lol, is there any sort of history on it? i'm much more inclined to change my views on something providing it's been around a long time and was used for health.

what's your take on food supplements/vitamins and detoxification?

[FlyingJesus]

it's funny, people have a totally skewed perception on hydrogen peroxide. it's simply water + extra oxygen.

idk how dangerous it may or may not be but just being water + oxygen (which you're right, it is H2O2) doesn't make it necessarily safe. Like I say, I don't know so it could well be harmless, but different compounds of the same chemicals do not have the same results or effects - the way you're saying it suggests that air+water=hydrogen peroxide, which obv isn't the case

[Wig44.]

wow i do not know half this stuff! thanks for the reply though, i'll try give my views as best as i can haha but i am conflicted over a lot of stuff that is apparently 'right' or 'wrong'

i agree with beer and coffee most definitely but i don't think all alcohol is that bad.. moderately of course. just the same as most things.
i never understood vegetarians, nor do i want to get in to a debate about it. it's their choice but we are meat eaters by nature. i think it should stay that way but who am i to judge. all sorts of foods whether they're supposed to be good or bad for you are all full of extra sugar/fat or have proccessed all the good outta it now adays anyway that no-one has a clue the **** going inside them. this is probably a bad time to live in foodwise because everythings just about money. which is why i prefer all natural foods and not packaged from a shop.

really, don't they? i thought fluoride was in most water. & i agree, providing you eat fruits and vegetables (which tend to have excess sugar nowadays too T_T) you'll get the water you need. too much water is a bad thing.

omg yeah suncream lol all the advice "wear suncream and moisturiser everyday" is ridiculous! just cover yourself up and you'll be fine. i'd much rather have vitamin d than chemicals i can't even pronounce in my body thanks.

what's cho? they're in bread, right? the advice on bread is a mess.... as for saturated fats, i think they're fine providing they're dairy/meat/nuts/oils.

it's funny, people have a totally skewed perception on hydrogen peroxide. it's simply water + extra oxygen. everyone think it's more toxic than water when in fact water itself is pretty toxic. i personally only use hydrogen peroxide for wounds. i actually don't know why but my gran used it on me often when i got loads of rashes from stingy nettles!

jogging/running can't be all that bad if done rarely. i'm not sure why you're saying we're not born for it if it's a basic fight-or-flight response? walking is most definitely the best exercise considering it's needed and used in every day life. it's so simple to do and gives the same benefits as jogging/running. it doesn't matter how far you run/jog it's for how long you do it. with walking you have more energy to do it longer and thus burn off more. plus running and jogging increases your chances of injury.

obviously you are much more knowledgeable on weight lifting than so you can explain why you think it's not too bad on you? i always thought it was a new sort of fad lol, is there any sort of history on it? i'm much more inclined to change my views on something providing it's been around a long time and was used for health.

what's your take on food supplements/vitamins and detoxification?

CHO = Carbohydrate, just an abbreviation. First thing I want to say is that it isn't as simple as you would think when it comes to Hydrogen Peroxide. Adding another oxygen changes its oxidation number because an extra oxygen means the charge decreases by 2 and thus its oxidation number changes. Checking wikipedia I found that it is actually used as a powerful oxidising agent, I guessed it would be something like that. Sadly chemistry isn't as simple as it first seems, ugh chemistry... I definitely wouldn't use hydrogen peroxide for anything other than acne/antiseptic/other external uses. I hear you can use it instead of toothpaste or mouthwash which makes sense, but I wouldn't swallow it. I remember seeing it possibly plays a role in the immune system but drinking it isn't going to get it into your blood. It can cause internal bleeding at higher concentrations but higher =/= lower. Personally I wouldn't like to find out if it reacts in the stomach to create gas leading to haemorrhaging at lower concentrations, maybe you'd be up for that instead? :P Plus, water actually isn't very toxic at all. Infact, the only reason you can get water poisoning is because of hyponatraemia (disturbed electrolyte levels). Just like glucose is actually toxic in low levels in the blood because of it's effect on osmotic balance.

I do think the best idea is to try to avoid processed foods, but there are plenty of natural foods that are worse than some of the man-made crap you can find. Fruit today has been selectively bred to be sweeter and contains a lot of fructose as a result. A small amount of fructose - and we aren't even talking daily here, may help with glucose uptake (means less insulin needs to be released, means you are more sensitive to insulin which is a good thing, because insulin resistance is diabetes II). But considering fruit contains a lot of it now AND it isn't eaten in season, but all year round AND the fact that sucrose, which is in most foods now, is a disaccharide of one glucose and one fructose molecule means modern consumption of fructose is a lot higher than we have ever evolved to cope with. Fructose is metabolised by the liver and while it can be beneficial in small amounts it is pretty damaging at higher amounts. Fructose isn't evil, but excess consumption of it e.g 5 portions of modern fruit & veg per day certainly can take its toll on the liver.

Going on to the vegetarian issue, we have huge brains with absolutely massive energy requirements. We have small guts. This is a common trait among carnivores, and lots of paleoanthropologists and neolithic anthropologists will tell you that humans evolved because of meat eating. The high concentrations of nutrients and energy made fatty meat and organs especially good for us. The modern diet of mechanically extracted grass seeds is something we can survive on, we are one of the most versatile animals on the planet after all - the ability to survive on different diets is possibly why we were good at surviving pre-neolithic times - but not something we can thrive on. Take the masai or eskimos (I can find more examples but it's 2 am, cba) they live on animal products only - with upto and beyond 80% of calories coming from fat. They are healthy people who become very unhealthy on modern, healthy 'food pyramid' diets. It has been seen time and time again, when someone from a community (even people in southern italy, people in crete etc) adopt a lower fat, 'healthy' diet they become ill just like we do. They don't have any genetic resistance to these diseases and this was one theory about all the dietary paradoxes where people were healthy on high fat diets. I'm waffling now. I think vegetarianism shouldn't even be a moral issue. There is nothing morally wrong with killing an animal to eat it. Humans are certainly not the only animal to kill for sport either, I don't agree with killing for the fun of it but I don't think there is anything wrong with killing an animal quickly for food and enjoying/being proud of the process, I don't mean people in slaughter houses either, I mean people who hunt deer in America in season, kill it humanely and then eat it with the family, for one example. A vegetarian diet isn't a diet fit for humans in my personal opinion. Vitamins and minerals in vegetables are very hard to absorb, excessive fibre fermentation causes GI problems and gut bacteria flora imbalances, etc. Plus, so called 'phytonutrients/phytochemicals' in vegetables are likely not used much by the body. Digestion destroys a lot of them. The resilient ones that get through are antinutrients (wikipedia it) which are basically a plants way of defending itself by making a herbivore ill causing it to avoid them, knows as a chemical defense.

Exercise wise, jogging/distance running is NOT part of the fight/flight response. Sprinting is. Our ancestors didn't weightlift in the sense that we do, they did lots of lifting/carrying - if you go by paleo/neolithic digsites. They were carrying their kills (what they hadn't eaten straight after killing it) back to camp, carrying back resources to build shelter. Explosive, short intense bursts of strain strengthen the cardiovascular system whereas endurance running/jogging leads to a constant state of inflammation (not enough time to repair the extensive damage done to arteries). Walking is the best combined with sprints OR weightlifting because of the effects of low intensity repetitive motion (walking) on humans. It doesn't only have to do with calories, we simply have evolved to walk. I can't remember the exact figure but even a modern human in todays society can walk, without food, using fat/glycogen store in the body for about 300-400 miles. I'll have to find a reference to that because without references for a lot of what I've written I'm sure it's easy to be skeptical (you should be skeptical).

Last and shortest point. Detox diets are a load of ********. Can't get any more simple. They are fads, usually written by vegans with no proven benefit. Vitamin supplements/food supplements are also a waste of money. I used to believe in a daily multivitamin, not for long though. Doesn't matter how much you pay for a multivitamin or single vitamin pills, they are synthetic and synthetic vitamins have been shown to be poorly absorbed and possibly even lower then natural vitamin levels within the body. Get the vitamins you need from food. Food supplements (I'm guessing you mean stuff like wheatgrass, barley grass, alfalfa, spirulina) they have been shown to have poorly absorbed vitamins/minerals and little effect on serum levels of vits/minerals. Food supps just aren't necessary. Only things I would consider supplementing with would be Magnesium (very hard to come by in modern diets) and vitamin D3, preferably from natural unprocessed cod liver oil - synthetic is inferior as far as I'm concerned and getting natural vit A and D at the same time increases the amount you can have of each without suffering side effects (the maximum safe daily intake levels set by government health institutes around the world are far too low btw) and increase absorption of each other.

I actually wrote at low more than I meant too. Gotta keep future posts more concise. Best advice is to be skeptical of everything you read but obviously don't just disbelieve everything you read.