WTF! SERIOUSLY???!!!!!!

[karter]

You have been banned! The reason for the ban is "You have been banned until 30-12-2010 05:59:09. Disrupting the game by flooding the screen is not permitted. Please review the Habbo Way and Terms for acceptable usage. (id: 1666557)". The ban will expire at 12/30/10 4:59 AM Eastern Time.

I got scammed 400c. So Obviously I'll make em aware of the fact that a person scams?
NOW WTF!!!!? I AM SO PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW
ALL I DID WAS SAY THIS PERSON SCAMS THRICE , YES THRICE

[karter]

MORE IRONIC UPDATE KromiumBAN got banned for harassing , all I did was just tell the casino owner to remove his rights
Thank you Mods. You owe me big time.

[Thomas]

calm down its only 400c... there pixels.
just wait until your unbanned and remake the 400c how you got it last time?

[karter]

calm down its only 400c... there pixels.
just wait until your unbanned and remake the 400c how you got it last time?

It's not about the credits , I have lost like 1000c earlier
The Thing is the person who scammed is him and the person who got banned is me

[Samantha]

It usually occurs Kart, I find mod's do listen in some ways but they don't in others. I find in the actual game they do not help at all, like 1 in 10 people (random numbers) get banned for stuff nowadays.

If it's in customer support they listen better.
Least it wasn't too long!

[Toasten]

Thats quite unlucky tbh :l Habbo hasn't allowed you to vent anger! -Feels sorry for you.

[Josh]

Really sucks tbh. Lucky it wasn't a perm ban really.

[Nemo]

howd u get scammed

[HotelUser]

One of many situations where the moderation team acts before actually reading the chatlog - they will not learn - it's been this way almost since the beginning with the paid mod team.

[Snatter]

One of many situations where the moderation team acts before actually reading the chatlog - they will not learn - it's been this way almost since the beginning with the paid mod team.

Yeah - you should email them (even though it only lasts a few hours) and tell them how their moderation department doesn't read things and to wipe the ban log from your account seeing as it was their fault and not yours.

[Eoin247]

Sounds real unlucky mate :(

At least its only temp.

[Redtiz]

I got scammed 400c. So Obviously I'll make em aware of the fact that a person scams?
NOW WTF!!!!? I AM SO PISSED OFF RIGHT NOW
ALL I DID WAS SAY THIS PERSON SCAMS THRICE , YES THRICE

It was actually six times, not three.

The problem here is that moderators act on what people report IF the log supports it. So, you've shouted that this player is a scammer six times and someone reported you for it. The moderators look at the log and all they see amongst the general chat is you shouting that someone's a scammer six times. They don't see a scam, perhaps because it happened too long ago (chat logs only show a few minutes chat) or perhaps it's not something that actually shows up in chat logs.

So the upshot is that they did act correctly, because someone shouting 'scammer' six times would be minor harassment if the logs don't show any scam taking place at the time.

In other words, you were unfortunate. Do remember that even if someone has screwed you over, if you react badly to the situation and they then report you acting up, ALL the moderators see is the snapshot of the situation showing you in a bad light.

[karter]

It was actually six times, not three.

The problem here is that moderators act on what people report IF the log supports it. So, you've shouted that this player is a scammer six times and someone reported you for it. The moderators look at the log and all they see amongst the general chat is you shouting that someone's a scammer six times. They don't see a scam, perhaps because it happened too long ago (chat logs only show a few minutes chat) or perhaps it's not something that actually shows up in chat logs.

So the upshot is that they did act correctly, because someone shouting 'scammer' six times would be minor harassment if the logs don't show any scam taking place at the time.

In other words, you were unfortunate. Do remember that even if someone has screwed you over, if you react badly to the situation and they then report you acting up, ALL the moderators see is the snapshot of the situation showing you in a bad light.

Then on KromiumBAN , I told the owner of the casino to remove his rights and then I got banned for harassing.

How Ironic , The guy who gets scammed runs away and I experience all the problem.

What do you even mean by reacting badly? How should I react when I get scammed? like this?

How cute the guy scammed me 400c <3

Lets say my bans are fair (although they aren't at all) , why did that guy run away with no punishments. Rather than assuming it would have happened a long time ago , why can't they just come to see it in the room itself.
The guy once even said on his own that he scammed me , thinking that at least now the mods will do anything , still nothing.

One more thing , the guy left the room when he scammed me , haha how is this harassing when he isnt even there?
At least they could have thought that I am already much pissed off , why ban me on two accounts??

[Josh]

Then on KromiumBAN , I told the owner of the casino to remove his rights and then I got banned for harassing.

How Ironic , The guy who gets scammed runs away and I experience all the problem.

To be perfectly honest, you deserved your bans. You were harrassing someone.

It's going to be easier to ban someone for harrassment and spamming then scamming and that's why you got banned.

[karter]

To be perfectly honest, you deserved your bans. You were harrassing someone.

It's going to be easier to ban someone for harrassment and spamming then scamming and that's why you got banned.

Rather than assuming something , the mods should see what has happened.
Let's say that the ban on kromiumBan was fair. I was banned for disrupting on Kromium. for saying this abc guy scammed me 400c.
6 times and not all at once. Shouldn't I tell them the fact that a guy in the casino scams?!
Later on when I met this guy in some other room he called me a "*****" 5 or 6 times , he didn't get banned for abusing / being explicit / disrupting / bullying / harassing ?

[Josh]

Rather than assuming something , the mods should see what has happened.
Let's say that the ban on kromiumBan was fair. I was banned for disrupting on Kromium. for saying this abc guy scammed me 400c.
6 times and not all at once. Shouldn't I tell them the fact that a guy in the casino scams?!

Well obviously not as you got banned for it. I think the MOD is just too lazy to investigate the scam (can't judge it from just chat logs alone). Spamming (or just saying) the guy scammed can be seen as defamation.

[karter]

If the mods ignored the fact guy scammed me, They absolutely should not ban me. How is that fair?

[karter]

What am I supposed to do when a guy scams me? Worship him?

[OhLiam]

Lol thats all I can say, you could have dealt with the situation better. Ranting and raving on Habbo gets you nowhere the fact that you got banned is through your own fault. Its a shame you got scammed but you should have went to the owner first then went to habbo staff. Flooding a room with "scammer" nobody will listen to you.

Shame.

[karter]

Lol thats all I can say, you could have dealt with the situation better. Ranting and raving on Habbo gets you nowhere the fact that you got banned is through your own fault. Its a shame you got scammed but you should have went to the owner first then went to habbo staff. Flooding a room with "scammer" nobody will listen to you.

Shame.

Heh. if we dont tell anyone that he scams is just like preparing for another scam. dont u think..and I did tell to the owner as posted above.
Why won't anyone listen to me if I say a person scams in this casino?

[OhLiam]

Heh. if we dont tell anyone that he scams is just like preparing for another scam. dont u think..and I did tell to the owner as posted above.
Why won't anyone listen to me if I say a person scams in this casino? I must not be reading your posts correctly then? I really must get new glasses considering you said Kromiumban got banned for harrassing the owner? so this isnt true?

if you read my reply I said you should have went to the owner FIRST before screaming and shouting about the scammer.

[Samantha]

It was actually six times, not three.

The problem here is that moderators act on what people report IF the log supports it. So, you've shouted that this player is a scammer six times and someone reported you for it. The moderators look at the log and all they see amongst the general chat is you shouting that someone's a scammer six times. They don't see a scam, perhaps because it happened too long ago (chat logs only show a few minutes chat) or perhaps it's not something that actually shows up in chat logs.

So the upshot is that they did act correctly, because someone shouting 'scammer' six times would be minor harassment if the logs don't show any scam taking place at the time.

In other words, you were unfortunate. Do remember that even if someone has screwed you over, if you react badly to the situation and they then report you acting up, ALL the moderators see is the snapshot of the situation showing you in a bad light.


I got reported say on 'Monday' then got banned on 'Wednesday' - permed, for scamming.
At least I got banned for a right reason and I did scam a long time ago - just once. Some people scam and scam and scam again and nothing gets done about it.
However, I don't see how they would know 2/3 days later?
Moderators are useless these days.

[karter]

I must not be reading your posts correctly then? I really must get new glasses considering you said Kromiumban got banned for harrassing the owner? so this isnt true?

if you read my reply I said you should have went to the owner FIRST before screaming and shouting about the scammer.
Harassing the owner ? no?! god no?! obviously not..

[Zuth]

How You Get Scammed?

[triston220]

Sadly the moderators don't investigate the situations well enough. Scamming is a great way to earn credits without paying a penny or facing a ban. And unless Habbo change the way moderators deal with scam reports it's going to stay like that. If there isn't a trade log already, then there should be one. The chat logs themselves don't hold enough information.

[karter]

How You Get Scammed?
He left the room when I won

[Redtiz]

Then on KromiumBAN , I told the owner of the casino to remove his rights and then I got banned for harassing.

How Ironic , The guy who gets scammed runs away and I experience all the problem.

What do you even mean by reacting badly? How should I react when I get scammed? like this?


Again, you're understating what you did. It wasn't a case of you telling him to remove your rights and the, wallop, you got banned. It'd be rather unfair if that were the case. The reality is that you spent approximately 30 minutes threatening to make rooms calling him a scammer and throwing abuse at him...and someone in the room reported you for that.



Lets say my bans are fair (although they aren't at all) , why did that guy run away with no punishments. Rather than assuming it would have happened a long time ago , why can't they just come to see it in the room itself. A moderator has absolutely no way to tell if you've been scammed in a casino. Ok, you ask why didn't they come into the room and I'd ask you, to do what? You've apparently already been scammed, so what evidence of you being scammed will a moderator see? All that would happen is that they'd spend a long time listening to your side of the story and his side of the story and still have no evidence on what happened. Ok, at the end of the day the server saves furniture logs so perhaps they could wait 12 hours to see if you traded something over to him...but what does that prove? All it proves is that you traded something over to him but it doesn't show why. They can't pull up old chat logs to see on what basis a bet was agreed and, even if they could, they can't see the results of any dice rolls or anything other random event spawned by furniture so even if a chat log shows "I'll pick 3....I won!", "No you didn't, it came up 6", "Scammer, it came up 3!" there is absolutely no evidence whatsoever anywhere on the service of what the result of that dice roll was and therefore who is telling the truth.

It's purely because Habbo has no way of knowing the ins and outs of a bet that we state that you use Casinos at your own risk and that if you put something in a trade box to another player you are giving it away.




The guy once even said on his own that he scammed me , thinking that at least now the mods will do anything , still nothing.And did you send a report at the time that this guy admitted he scammed you? Without a chat log, it's just second hand information which moderators can't act on.


One more thing , the guy left the room when he scammed me , haha how is this harassing when he isnt even there?
At least they could have thought that I am already much pissed off , why ban me on two accounts??You were banned because you were reported and the chat logs showed you spending 30 minutes screaming abuse about another player. You may have had good reason, but Habbo moderators don't know that and can only act on what evidence is in front of them. They banned you on two accounts because you didn't take the hint from the first ban and you came straight back on to continue shouting. The unpalatable truth is that, if you engage in activities like giving away items to other players as bets, then you run a really high risk of getting screwed over and there is absolutely nada we can do about that. Frankly, handing over 400c or an item to the value of 400c is pure and utter madness if it means something to you...and it clearly did judging by how angry you were.