does anyone feel like

[buttons]

they're too good for the place they live or position they're in?

i'm actually being 100% serious here, that's why it's not in spam. i think about it a lot, if i was born somewhere else i might have more opportunities. when i look around the people in my area there is a lot of obesity, drugs, violence, unemployment etc.... not everyone but a majority of people are. yet we're voted the best place to live in scotland apparently.... i feel bad for thinking it cause my family/friends are here and they all love it but Britain has NOTHING to offer me or any other foreign people. & i love foreign people jsyk. i think i could do better things, & i plan on doing it, if i was out of uk.

idk, who feels the same as me. i think britian is crap lol. i don't get why people are like "WOW you're from britain amazing" is it? no...

[PaulMacC]

Yes, I do. I dont mean to sound big-headed but most of the people in my area arent as academically smart as I am. I plan to go to England for University. Most people in my area dont even go to Uni. Dont get me wrong they are nice people, just arent the brightest. That being said my family such as cousins who lived here have all been on to become teachers. I plan to live abroad. I'd like to live where my girlfriend lives, it seems more of a, i dont want to say posh, but smarter area.

[matt$]

London has quite a few opportunities for jobs as this is what it looks like your trying to get at but yeah i've thought the same aswell america has always seemed like the place for offering you stuff idk y though.

[Samantha]

I don't feel like that, however, I don't think I am old enough to decifer where I wish to live or what i want to do with my life. I should know by now as I am 16 but I just don't. My neighbour hood isn't as bad a portrayed, it is just where it is on the map in my town - living next to the worst street in featherstone. However, they have seemed to calmed down from years ago, a fire engine was sure to go up there every night. I think, well I know, I am not the smartest girl around, my school was full of smart people, someone I know wants to be a lawyer, and although I live in a small town it doesn't necessarily mean we are rubbish.
The world's fastest knitter lives in my town, it was my classmates grandma, that's showing that people do have breaks and do accomplish things. (I don't think she is fastest anymore but meh).

Overall though, I don't feel like that, but sometimes I do, but I also think when I want to get out, where will I go? What will I do? How will I afford to go somewhere else. Also I know, that my parents are on about moving house as my mum is disabled and I'm for it but I also know I will miss the current house we live in, as I have lived in there since I was born. Maybe I like being spoon fed I don't know. I am independent but want to stay where I am.
Also, I have never been abroad so that might be another reason that I wouldn't go anywhere else.

[Neversoft]

I'm glad I was born in Britain and wouldn't have it any other way but I absolutely hate where I live. It's an ugly, boring, slang-infested **** hole full of chavs and wasters which gets worse by the day. Going to get away as soon as I can, there's nothing for me here. Unlike you I truly do believe Britain is amazing however and take pride in being British. We have an amazing history and while there is a lot of crap around the United Kingdom there are some really wonderful places and people here. Plus we have the best accents obviously and a Queen which is awesome. We aren't called Great Britain for no reason.

[Nemo]

I agree aswell tbh. The majority of the people where i live (Good ol' croydon) is like the worst place in britain i swear. I feel like i should be with people who are more on my level instead of hoodrats really. I think if you want opportunities, then you make em. Like i wanna go to oxford, but where i live isnt gonna stop me, if anything it makes me wanna do better so i can get out of here.

Saying that, my road is lovely and i really dont wanna move from my house

[FlyingJesus]

I don't feel like that about the place as such because I could realistically have gone anywhere, but I blame being here and being in our society as a whole for never having been given a reason to bother. I have no reason to prove how much I can excell except for that wonderful "do it for yourself", but I already know I'm great so why would I do anything when I don't have any need to :S

[Rozi]

haha god no I'm the total opposite. I constantly feel like I've wasted every opportunity that has been handed to me on a plate. I feel like I don't deserve to live in my house as I never contribute anything, that I don't deserve to live in London as I don't make the most of it at all but mostly I feel like I don't deserve to live in this country which is truly a wealth of opportunity if you want to make the most of it. I'd swap places with someone who was really going to make a go of my wasted opportunities in an instant.



but I'm too god damn lazy to change any of it.

[Alexx..]

Yeah I hate it, I live in the "2007 worst place to live" and it's just full of chavs and people who aren't going anywhere with their life (not everyone OBVIOUSLY) but the majority of them. I really want to move and go to a much better place.

[buttons]

I don't feel like that, however, I don't think I am old enough to decifer where I wish to live or what i want to do with my life. I should know by now as I am 16 but I just don't. My neighbour hood isn't as bad a portrayed, it is just where it is on the map in my town - living next to the worst street in featherstone. However, they have seemed to calmed down from years ago, a fire engine was sure to go up there every night. I think, well I know, I am not the smartest girl around, my school was full of smart people, someone I know wants to be a lawyer, and although I live in a small town it doesn't necessarily mean we are rubbish.
The world's fastest knitter lives in my town, it was my classmates grandma, that's showing that people do have breaks and do accomplish things. (I don't think she is fastest anymore but meh).

Overall though, I don't feel like that, but sometimes I do, but I also think when I want to get out, where will I go? What will I do? How will I afford to go somewhere else. Also I know, that my parents are on about moving house as my mum is disabled and I'm for it but I also know I will miss the current house we live in, as I have lived in there since I was born. Maybe I like being spoon fed I don't know. I am independent but want to stay where I am.
Also, I have never been abroad so that might be another reason that I wouldn't go anywhere else.
i've known what i've wanted to do since 2008. my town is really quite nice but it's just young people that ruin it, tbh i'm fine cause a lot of them give me motivation. to not be like that and actually do something with my life yeah...
i'm not the smartest either but i think if given the chance i can do what i want and make a difference. our town is most famous for sandi thom staying here lol don't think it's anything to brag about but nah that's cause she moved somewhere else and was rich enough to go to a school that'd give her a foot in to the door she wanted to take.

I'm glad I was born in Britain and wouldn't have it any other way but I absolutely hate where I live. It's an ugly, boring, slang-infested **** hole full of chavs and wasters which gets worse by the day. Going to get away as soon as I can, there's nothing for me here. Unlike you I truly do believe Britain is amazing however and take pride in being British. We have an amazing history and while there is a lot of crap around the United Kingdom there are some really wonderful places and people here. Plus we have the best accents obviously and a Queen which is awesome. We aren't called Great Britain for no reason.
i'm not gonna take britain for granted, especially not scotland. it will always be my home obviously. my family have always moved about though, my grandad was from ireland, my mum lived in glasgow but moved here. i want to go even further. & i'm glad i got all the free education i did here but honestly, if i was somewhere else that required having to work my ass off i would do better than here. cause here i can just slack off, that's what most people my age have done and are all unemployed ._. i still don't understand why great britain is so 'great'. i woud understand if this was years ago but it's going down the **** hole. most places are but i just hate britain.. the way it's run, the diet, education, health services, moral, cultures. EVERYTHING.. in my view we don't stand for anything but disgrace. that's maybe too extreme and rude but it's really how i see it.

I agree aswell tbh. The majority of the people where i live (Good ol' croydon) is like the worst place in britain i swear. I feel like i should be with people who are more on my level instead of hoodrats really. I think if you want opportunities, then you make em. Like i wanna go to oxford, but where i live isnt gonna stop me, if anything it makes me wanna do better so i can get out of here.

Saying that, my road is lovely and i really dont wanna move from my house
i will make my opportunities :) it'll make it more worth it cause i have to work for it

the reason i ask is cause i want to go to idk france, sweden, switzerland, finland, australia, germany, china, japan but most of all s. korea(A). & people say it's just cause i'm a koreaboo/weibo... whatever. i like the culture, i love absolutely everything about south korea so i'm not gonna let someone tell me it's stupid. my tutor told me to forget trying. so i was thinking MAYBE if i lived somewhere else in the first place i'd have a better chance of social mobility. even if uk is an open class system it's so much harder going up the ranks than it is in finland etc. it's like i'm practically stuck here forever even if i make the effort, so i'm just gonna have to find a random opportunity to take. i'm sure i will but idk.

[Jordy]

haha god no I'm the total opposite. I constantly feel like I've wasted every opportunity that has been handed to me on a plate. I feel like I don't deserve to live in my house as I never contribute anything, that I don't deserve to live in London as I don't make the most of it at all but mostly I feel like I don't deserve to live in this country which is truly a wealth of opportunity if you want to make the most of it. I'd swap places with someone who was really going to make a go of my wasted opportunities in an instant.



but I'm too god damn lazy to change any of it.I feel very much the same way, I don't live in a particularly good/bad place and sometimes I just feel lucky to have ended up here. Of course it could be improved but compared to most people in the World it's a very nice place to live and I've done nothing to achieve this. That sounds all very charitable of me etc but I really am grateful for where I was born and I really do try to appreciate it.

[Neversoft]

i'm not gonna take britain for granted, especially not scotland. it will always be my home obviously. my family have always moved about though, my grandad was from ireland, my mum lived in glasgow but moved here. i want to go even further. & i'm glad i got all the free education i did here but honestly, if i was somewhere else that required having to work my ass off i would do better than here. cause here i can just slack off, that's what most people my age have done and are all unemployed ._. i still don't understand why great britain is so 'great'. i woud understand if this was years ago but it's going down the **** hole. most places are but i just hate britain.. the way it's run, the diet, education, health services, moral, cultures. EVERYTHING.. in my view we don't stand for anything but disgrace. that's maybe too extreme and rude but it's really how i see it.

Obviously there are some major problems with the government and that is all subjective so I won't get into that, but what is wrong with education and the health services especially? We get free health care and the University of Cambridge is currently the best university in the world according to the QS World University Rankings with Oxford and UCL not far behind. Yes, there are some real **** schools in this country, but I think it's the same in most countries to be honest. Not really sure what you mean by the diet? Surely that is up to the individual, not the country. Surprised you hate our culture though. I think along with Japan we have one of the most interesting cultures in the world, but again that's all subjective so fair enough. :P

[Huggies]

Yeah i feel the same, i live in the same i live in probally the richest areas in south london, Eltham to be procise, we mix it up with a few celebrities, such as christian, Heather and the Old lauren from eastenders and a few coca cola championship football players, I mean there are The Rich parts to eltham, and there are the middle class parts, and the Deprived parts, i live in the Middle class parts, I live in the middle class parts which means we get the clash between the rich and the poor, and the deprived areas and normally full off milwall hooligans and hood rats who just ruin the area, and the upper class parts are just full of s**** who look down on you, so im kind of stuck in the middle!

[Gibs960]

If anything I'm the opposite. Like, people who were brought up with not much money like myself, don't really get high grades like me and my brother. I'm sooo proud of my brother for the grades he's getting and I love my mum for bringing me up right.

I live in quite an expensive area but my mum struggles to pay the mortgage. So generally I'm grateful for the people around me for bringing me up right and I'm grateful that I'm sort of "clever", if I can say that, lol.

[cocaine]

why is everyone moaning britains like one of the top players in major international competitiveness, growing gdp, one of the best for standard of living and most people abroad would glady try make something of themselves if they were in your position

and while im here lets just highlight gibs' contradictions


Like, people who were brought up with not much money like myself



I live in quite an expensive area

[velvet]

i love living in england - i hate my district
the education is appalling, the people are moronic and i just feel like i'm superior to everyone around me, lol. i actually can't tolerate the people around here, 90% of them are brain-dead, i swear.
i'd give anything to move back to where i used to live.

[Robbie]

Where I live is horrible, but I've been given every possible opportunity by my parents which I'll be eternally grateful for, however the standard of education and the like here is horrible. A lot of the people I know that went to my secondary school have dropped out of college already and are just doing menial jobs such as working in shops etc. with no real prospects. I sort of feel sorry for them in a way, not that I want to sound superior or anything.

My secondary school has something like a 28% GCSE pass rate and was almost put in special measures by OFSTED. My family struggled with various things from when I was about age 8-15 but luckily everythings sorted now and, as I said before, my parents have always put me and my sister before anything else and so luckily I'm on track to do what I've always wanted to do at university in a subject I've loved since I can remember.

The area itself, however, has no opportunities for anything whatsoever apart from maybe drug dealing.

[-:Undertaker:-]

My area is nice in the sense I love the fact its a victorian area with big houses, large mature trees - aesthetically pleasing. On the other hand like most other places, the small things such as bad roads and pavements coupled with rubbish everywhere just ruins it and gets you down that is has to be that way. If you go down the road though on the other side, it turns into a basic scumsville and its the same for the other way down the road - very sad when you think back to the areas previous history of being a respectable working class area.

But as we all know, the working class basically gave way to the new 'underclass'.


Obviously there are some major problems with the government and that is all subjective so I won't get into that, but what is wrong with education and the health services especially? We get free health care and the University of Cambridge is currently the best university in the world according to the QS World University Rankings with Oxford and UCL not far behind. Yes, there are some real **** schools in this country, but I think it's the same in most countries to be honest. Not really sure what you mean by the diet? Surely that is up to the individual, not the country. Surprised you hate our culture though. I think along with Japan we have one of the most interesting cultures in the world, but again that's all subjective so fair enough. :P

The problems with the British education system are expansive, from dumbed down subjects to teachers in state schools working half the time as social workers. Don't get me wrong, I love my school - but in terms of education it is poor just like most state schools in this country. If you think to China (a rising nation) it's children will be learning the solid subjects of Maths, English, History, the Sciences and so on - whilst our education system offers the likes of media, travel & tourism and a dumbed down timetable (they were even speaking of mothballing History). With those prospects, we do not stand a chance.

Our culture on the other hand is slowly being eroded, England and later Great Britain was the founder of liberty and yet we've had so much of it taken away from us and because so many people know little of their own history they do not jump to defend it when it is under threat (the European Union, the erosion of traditional English law, innocent until proven guilty, small state etc).

From a personal point I just feel sad for this country and I do hope we can turn it around, it has been done before and can be done again.

[Judas]

the reason i ask is cause i want to go to idk france, sweden, switzerland, finland, australia, germany, china, japan but most of all s. korea(A). & people say it's just cause i'm a koreaboo/weibo... whatever. i like the culture, i love absolutely everything about south korea so i'm not gonna let someone tell me it's stupid. my tutor told me to forget trying. so i was thinking MAYBE if i lived somewhere else in the first place i'd have a better chance of social mobility. even if uk is an open class system it's so much harder going up the ranks than it is in finland etc. it's like i'm practically stuck here forever even if i make the effort, so i'm just gonna have to find a random opportunity to take. i'm sure i will but idk.

your tutor sounds like a douche, if you want it then go for it. don't think you've failed before you've even tried it because then if you do give it a go and you don't manage to get where you want to go at least you can say you tried. sure it may be quite a long shot, but it's not impossible... what are we without ambition?

[Agnostic Bear]

I'm glad I was born in Britain and wouldn't have it any other way but I absolutely hate where I live. It's an ugly, boring, slang-infested **** hole full of chavs and wasters which gets worse by the day.

You have literally described everywhere in the UK except the upper class residential/commercial blocs in the south east of england.

[Spuds]

they're too good for the place they live or position they're in?

i'm actually being 100% serious here, that's why it's not in spam. i think about it a lot, if i was born somewhere else i might have more opportunities. when i look around the people in my area there is a lot of obesity, drugs, violence, unemployment etc.... not everyone but a majority of people are. yet we're voted the best place to live in scotland apparently.... i feel bad for thinking it cause my family/friends are here and they all love it but Britain has NOTHING to offer me or any other foreign people. & i love foreign people jsyk. i think i could do better things, & i plan on doing it, if i was out of uk.

idk, who feels the same as me. i think britian is crap lol. i don't get why people are like "WOW you're from britain amazing" is it? no...
I've lived in that many places already I look at old friends who have added me on Facebook and think that I probably would have been different if I stayed in those places. Probably for the better.

[Neversoft]

You have literally described everywhere in the UK except the upper class residential/commercial blocs in the south east of england.

I've moved a least ten times in my life and where I live now is the only place I would describe as such. There are still a lot of nice places in the country.

[JACKTARD]

I live in a pretty well off area and most people get lots of opportunities, so basically no, I like where I live and my area.

[@K]

I agree aswell tbh. The majority of the people where i live (Good ol' croydon)

Don't say that, I'm moving there in 8 days lol.

[Rozi]

Don't say that, I'm moving there in 8 days lol.

oh god poor you.

[chantellehugs]

I've lived in the same place, in the same house for my whole life so I don't know anywhere else other than where I am. Sometimes it gets me down, because it's not the best place in the world (then again, where is?) but I'm the sort of person who takes all the negativity in my life and turns it into something good. Living in a bad area makes me want to work hard and have a good future when I'm older, so really I guess it's almost a good thing. If I had everything in the world I wouldn't be the same person as I am now, and I wouldn't be so driven to do well :).

[Conservative,]

Not reading three pages lol...

anyway yeah sometimes I do. My area is fairly well off (like top 20 richest boroughs in Britain) but it's actually not that nice. Most of the people round here are just average and it sounds bad because I know I'm lucky compared to most but I just feel if I had been born into a more prominent family I could've done more. I'm easily intelligent enough to go to Eton or a very expensive private school, I took several private-school tests in year 6, got offered every school I applied for but my parents couldn't afford it so sent me to the best state school.

Hopefully my luck will change, my parents have gone up a bit in the world recently and if I can get into a good Uni I can get a good job and give my kids what I could never have...

honestly, in an ideal world I would've been born into a millionaire family, without my heart/lung condition and be at a Swiss private school skiing every day and probably in the British Ski Squad. However my family aren't that well off and so I'm stuck in a comprehensive school hoping to get into Cambridge to give my kids what I never had :)


I also think if I had been born into a powerful family I could've taken over the world...but that's my ambition for another lifetime :D

[hairpins]

no mylstone eye dunt. eye feel lyke everything is perfeckt in mi world n eye have loadz of appatunities. sorri abowt the wai yew feel. maybe yew shud muve when yew grow up

[Sharon]

in my area, definately. their all chavs and quite frankly way less fortunate (no this is not a snobby jab unlike some) BUT seriously. some people that i see are outright rude like there was like a 2 year old and the mums like ''will you ******* hurry up before i leave you on the road'' it's like woah ...

[Seth]

My area has poor living conditions but I don't consider myself to be too 'good' for the place. This is not because I fit in either it's because there is not much I can do about it for starters! Secondly the subcultures (chavs) are in a lot of places anyway :/ But yeah I do sometimes feel like I want to move away to another country where these things don't exist if that makes sense.

[Jord]

Yeah I actually do lol. I've lived in hackney all my life. Hackney of all places is the worst. And I would say I was alway's in the top groups at everything because it was hackney... And I think I came out okay from living there although I don't speak liek tis or spel liek dis. But I do think if I grew up somewhere else how different my life would of been. i.e I would never have joined this forum or met any nice people online. But If I did grow up somewhere else I do sometimes think I would be going out alot more I would have more of a social life. Noone in hackney ever went out due to them all living 3-5 buses away so as soon as school was out everyone needed to get home -.-

Primary school was amazing secondary wasnt to great.

[Inseriousity.]

I've never really thought about it. On a smaller scale, I remember being top of the class in food tech but that didn't make me think I deserved somewhere better because I liked the challenge of keeping that title and there were some people in class who it helped having someone top to try and beat. I used to be a selfish arrogant ******* but I've grown out of that now and just count my lucky stars I live somewhere where I have human rights, good water, good food etc.

[RedStratocas]

tbh i think virtually everyone feels that way. when you spend the first 18+ years of your life in one place, everywhere else you visit is bound to seem "cooler" or full of more opportunities because you've grown to ignore the opportunities that are right nearby. unless you live in a gigantic city, there's not too many opportunities usually to be had. really, i feel like hating where you live is part of growing up. it's natural, it's neither good or bad, but either way wanting to get the hell out of there is completely understandable.

i didnt think i was too good for where i grew up, i think a more apt description would be i felt like i didnt fit in. and i was probably right, although i did make some fine friends. but now that i'm in new york ive found people i fit with perfectly, and lots of people are the types of people who i've always wanted to be. if anything, now i feel like i'm not good enough for the university i am going to haha. some of the friends i've made there are legitimate geniuses, not taking that word lightly, who i feel like know exactly what they are going in life while i still feel so unsure.

[le harry]

this thread in a nutshell: bunch of wealthy, ego-inflated kids who expect everything in life to be handed to them on a silver plate. honestly, opportunity is everywhere. half of you haven't even finished school so you've got no idea what the real world is like anyway. quit crying.

[FlyingJesus]

this thread in a nutshell: bunch of wealthy, ego-inflated kids who expect everything in life to be handed to them on a silver plate. honestly, opportunity is everywhere. half of you haven't even finished school so you've got no idea what the real world is like anyway. quit crying.

Oh you are alive Blake was worrying about you yesterday. HOW'S YOUR SITUATION RIGHT NOW

It's not off topic because Harry's entire state is under water at the moment, which probably hinders his lifestyle a little

[Nationalism]

this thread in a nutshell: bunch of wealthy, ego-inflated kids who expect everything in life to be handed to them on a silver plate. honestly, opportunity is everywhere. half of you haven't even finished school so you've got no idea what the real world is like anyway. quit crying.
This.

Opportunity IS near by.
Life is what you make of it, if you sit on your backside doing nothing all day and not looking for jobs then your obviously gonna get nowhere.
Go out, get a job (it's not that hard - there are plenty of places recruiting), money makes the world go round, sitting at home crying about not having money or opportunities isn't going to change anything.

[Sheen]

Well, I also hate this country, but I am proud to be British. I have also decided where I wish to live when I turn 25, and that is Canada, I went there once, and I loved the country, so I wish to live there. It is a much better place and a better quality of life than where I live.

[Con]

i know this is a bit of a bump but what im saying is relevant i guess lol.
I've been thinking about this since this thread was posted and really I do feel similar.
It's not that I hate this country, but I don't like where I am in life if that makes sense lol.

I sometimes feel like I should be more "well-off" and live in a better city, have more money, a better house, better clothes etc. I feel like I'm meant to be rich and not that I'm poor or anything atm, but I just feel like really I should have more money and I should be apart of one of those families that are rich and famous for nothing/for being good business men. IDK why I've been feeling like this, but it's like when we're decorating my room atm I'm like oh I like that wallpaper, and the parents are like "oh yeah you would wouldn't you? £20 a roll, I don't think so!" and i'm like, well we aren't that poor so idk why we cant buy nice stuff.
mayb I'm just like a wannabe rich/famous person or rly stuck up or something but I feel like I should have a lot of money and buy lots of nice clothes and like work at a fashion magazine and be rly good at it. - oh maybe im just gay but yeah there's my contribution to this thread

[Special]

yeah all the time lol

i walk around town thinking 'why am i living here i could do better'

unless i am just comparing my town to some amazing place in my mind lol

[Muct]

sometimes i walk around my school and think 'god, im actually surrounded by ******s'

[cocaine]

this thread in a nutshell: bunch of wealthy, ego-inflated kids who expect everything in life to be handed to them on a silver plate. honestly, opportunity is everywhere. half of you haven't even finished school so you've got no idea what the real world is like anyway. quit crying.

i love this reply. what i also love is how people moan for material goods. some post about 2 or 3 up from mines complaining how they should have better clothes. how shallow is this forum? 'opportunities in life' mean building up self-worth by advancing from level to level in employment or other forms of work. be grateful you actually have a roof over your head, clothes on your back and ooh don't forget the expensive iphones or blackberrys mummy and daddy bought you. because i'd love to see your reaction if you were in a real place where the only opportunites there are is a life of poverty and repression.

[Con]

i love this reply. what i also love is how people moan for material goods. some post about 2 or 3 up from mines complaining how they should have better clothes. how shallow is this forum? 'opportunities in life' mean building up self-worth by advancing from level to level in employment or other forms of work. be grateful you actually have a roof over your head, clothes on your back and ooh don't forget the expensive iphones or blackberrys mummy and daddy bought you. because i'd love to see your reaction if you were in a real place where the only opportunites there are is a life of poverty and repression.

Guess this is aimed at my post too aha, I know I am extremely shallow in how I wish I was and things, but the luxuries I own I buy myself from money I have earned. If my parents bought all my clothes I'd be wearing the same clothes I had 3 years ago and it'd be from the cheapest places possible and have no real style/value.
My plan in life is to work really hard at my job and to continue my training so I can get the best possible job for me and thus have the best pay. Plus this thread is just for people to post what they wish rly/where they wish they were and things lol

[Muct]

this thread in a nutshell: bunch of wealthy, ego-inflated kids who expect everything in life to be handed to them on a silver plate. honestly, opportunity is everywhere. half of you haven't even finished school so you've got no idea what the real world is like anyway. quit crying.

I'm not ego-inflated, I just don't like my school because it's full of chavy idiots and I don't like it
Guess it's my fault really though lol -I had like 5 choices and I just had to pick the worse, didn't I?;LL

[Rixion]

oh i do often around my area - i look at someone and say in my head, im much better than you

and im not vain at alll:L

[Catzsy]

I think everyone gets fed up of their surroundings at some time or another but we could be living in a far worse place than the UK such as Dafur, Rwanda etc., etc. Not saying that if someone feels they would be happier in another counry they shouldn't go for it but honesly compared to a large portion of the world we should be counting our blessings, really. Having the drive to 'better yourself' is a good thing though. Some are encouraged to do so and some do it 'in spite' of their circumstances which is something to be admired.

[Wig44.]

why is everyone moaning britains like one of the top players in major international competitiveness, growing gdp, one of the best for standard of living and most people abroad would glady try make something of themselves if they were in your position

and while im here lets just highlight gibs' contradictions

One of the best for standards of living? Actually, in '09 and '10 we had the worst quality of life in Europe.

And in response to Cocaine; just because there ARE worse places to live doesn't mean I should have to put up with some of the ******** here. Britain is a far less desirable place to live than a LOT of countries around the world to me.

I've known for a while that I want to leave the UK. The political system is broken and will never change, the public are stupid, don't question what they are told and bury their heads in the sand, we are over taxed, our culture is swept aside by immigrants (christmas lights/cards taken down because muslims were offended?!), we are lied to be politicians, scientists and especially the media. Anything to sell more newspapers. America is even worse, I would NEVER even consider living anywhere there - with the exception of visiting a few states.

You just have to look at the state of public health and how people STILL somehow believe propaganda like the food pyramid or the eatwell plate, or the fact that the eatwell plate is so bad.

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One of the best for standards of living? Actually, in '09 and '10 we had the worst quality of life in Europe.

And in response to Cocaine; just because there ARE worse places to live doesn't mean I should have to put up with some of the ******** here. Britain is a far less desirable place to live than a LOT of countries around the world to me.

I've known for a while that I want to leave the UK. The political system is broken and will never change, the public are stupid, don't question what they are told and bury their heads in the sand, we are over taxed, our culture is swept aside by immigrants (christmas lights/cards taken down because muslims were offended?!), we are lied to be politicians, scientists and especially the media. Anything to sell more newspapers. America is even worse, I would NEVER even consider living anywhere there - with the exception of visiting a few states.

You just have to look at the state of public health and how people STILL somehow believe propaganda like the food pyramid or the eatwell plate, or the fact that the eatwell plate is so bad.
I actually couldn't agree more with you. UK also has the lowest level of social mobility in Europe so why on earth are people still saying there are opportunities out there for us? there are so many obstacles to get over first no matter how hard you work. America (finally, someone who doesn't believe USA is the bees knees) also has one of the lowest levels in the whole of the western world so why anyone thinks they'll have a better life there is beyond me.
I actually don't mind immigrants at all. I would rather have those that do good than the scum we already have living here, although idk why they bother coming here because we have nothing to offer. Of course we are lied to. We are lied to by everyone so that they can make profit. If people weren't so brainwashed then maybe we wouldn't be a dying nation. No-one ever agrees with me but all we have is our history which means nothing anymore, this is our history now and it's not something to be proud of. & i feel the exact same about public health, it's just the fact that the government allows all these chemicals/artificial stuff in pretty much every product/food/packaging/medicine we have whereas in a lot of countries they're banned because of the danger. SOZ MEGA CHEMICALPHOBE don't judge k

but idk my point wasn't to say i want everthing handed to me or that i want money, i've never had that nor do i expect it. if i ever do achieve any of it it'll be given to my mum fyi to anyone who thinks i'm being selfish or greedy. i just don't like the uk system compared to a lot of others, that's all..

[wixard]

i think saying that the uk has nothing to offer is a very drastic statement to make.....

[kuzkasate]

yeh i feel like that and its a pain in the ass cos you want to do something to change it, but tbh, you cant

[cocaine]

One of the best for standards of living? Actually, in '09 and '10 we had the worst quality of life in Europe.

And in response to Cocaine; just because there ARE worse places to live doesn't mean I should have to put up with some of the ******** here. Britain is a far less desirable place to live than a LOT of countries around the world to me.

I've known for a while that I want to leave the UK. The political system is broken and will never change, the public are stupid, don't question what they are told and bury their heads in the sand, we are over taxed, our culture is swept aside by immigrants (christmas lights/cards taken down because muslims were offended?!), we are lied to be politicians, scientists and especially the media. Anything to sell more newspapers. America is even worse, I would NEVER even consider living anywhere there - with the exception of visiting a few states.

You just have to look at the state of public health and how people STILL somehow believe propaganda like the food pyramid or the eatwell plate, or the fact that the eatwell plate is so bad.

do you even know why we're over-taxed? because of the after effects of the recession (it started in america remember, not britain), our budget deficit now is nearing the high levels in % of GDP. think about what would happen if britains politicans decided they were to take a new friendly approach to governing - our deficit would extensively widen, as a result the pounds gonna be less competitive. because the pound is worth less, our imports are more expensive and the majority of goods being made in china, will be more expensive. the cost of living will increase and less investments going to be put in from abroad because the UK will seem less and less attractive, so we're left with outdated technology and inevitably countries will surpass us. the whole point of high taxation is to tackle the budget deficit, so when you're actually moaning about 'oh no we're overtaxed', its for the benefit of the country as a whole in order to sustain a recovery, and wait for it heres my main point, bring the uk BACK UP to the levels of standard of living once enjoyed.


I actually couldn't agree more with you. UK also has the lowest level of social mobility in Europe so why on earth are people still saying there are opportunities out there for us? there are so many obstacles to get over first no matter how hard you work. America (finally, someone who doesn't believe USA is the bees knees) also has one of the lowest levels in the whole of the western world so why anyone thinks they'll have a better life there is beyond me.
I actually don't mind immigrants at all. I would rather have those that do good than the scum we already have living here, although idk why they bother coming here because we have nothing to offer
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i just don't like the uk system compared to a lot of others, that's all..

what? how can you say social mobility in the UK/USA is low when we have immigrants coming in. entrepreneurial (spellings wrong probs) immigrants who set up successful business in the UK can far surpass their potential than if they stayed in their home country. and how can you say the UK has nothing to offer? are you aware of how many foreign students come to england to study for their degrees (particularly in medicine) and then go on to achieve post-graduate degrees, before repaying their debt by working for the NHS/private clinics to benefit the public?

[Wig44.]

do you even know why we're over-taxed? because of the after effects of the recession (it started in america remember, not britain), our budget deficit now is nearing the high levels in % of GDP. think about what would happen if britains politicans decided they were to take a new friendly approach to governing - our deficit would extensively widen, as a result the pounds gonna be less competitive. because the pound is worth less, our imports are more expensive and the majority of goods being made in china, will be more expensive. the cost of living will increase and less investments going to be put in from abroad because the UK will seem less and less attractive, so we're left with outdated technology and inevitably countries will surpass us. the whole point of high taxation is to tackle the budget deficit, so when you're actually moaning about 'oh no we're overtaxed', its for the benefit of the country as a whole in order to sustain a recovery, and wait for it heres my main point, bring the uk BACK UP to the levels of standard of living once enjoyed.

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Britain has always had high taxation rates. When did I say politicians should take a friendly approach to things? Your straw man argument refutes nothing from my post. There is a massive difference between wanting politicians to become all 'friendly' and start handing out money, and wanting politicians to not be corrupt, have the interests of the public in mind (not the social elite), not be incompetent and do what they are elected to do.

[RandomManJay]

Although I do like living in Britain, I have to admit I have always had feelings for migrating to another country. I first thought about the US, but now I'm looking more towards New Zealand, or Denmark or Norway. I don't honastly know if I will migrate, but I definately want to travel around once I finish uni and save up a bit :).

[bkps]

Actually, Britain is really good. I mean, I'm not British, but if you look into it, Britain is actually one of the best places to live. I used to live in Brazil. I moved here and now I got a better life. Of course Britain has its bad sides, but what country doesn't? You should be lucky to live where you are. And tbh, imagine in other countries where they dont have a home, or any food. No jobs.. You still think Britain's crap?

[rokgal]

I live in a small area in britain and i actually think my hometown is better and safer as when i look around in my area theres unemployment, drugs, gangs, theft and violence. I'd rather live in my hometown as there is many opertunities for when im older ect.