New ISP.

[[Chris]]

Right. Im getting fed up of Virgin Media now. Getting overcharged, and are now introducing a 'fair use' policy..

Long story short; Fair use policy is stupid/not getting the correct speed even when slowed down/overcharged/yeah.

Are there any Cheaper isps that give unlimited download and dont cap speeds?

[Recursion]

I've had no problems with BT's Option 3 unlimited package (actually, the FUP is 300GB though)

[[Chris]]

Yeah, virgins has changed to 3500mb, then a period where your speeds reduced for 5 hours.. and i cbfa with it Lol.

Er, I was thinking BT, but hadnt heard decent things about it..

Atm, im on 10mb download, 1mb upload and usually have around 25ms ping playing online games.

[N!ck]

You need a BT phone line. http://bethere.co.uk

[Oleh]

Orange Home :D

We pay £19 but it should be £24 that is 20mb speed no limit and that includes landline

[[Chris]]

Yeah, nick. Ive looked at BE. Is it exactly how it says? What average download/upload do/did you get?

[Stephen!]

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;6953226']Yeah, virgins has changed to 3500mb, then a period where your speeds reduced for 5 hours.. and i cbfa with it Lol.

Er, I was thinking BT, but hadnt heard decent things about it..

Atm, im on 10mb download, 1mb upload and usually have around 25ms ping playing online games.

Virgin's has always been 3500MB from 4PM to 9PM. For the past 4 years.

[[Chris]]

Nope, ive NEVER been capped. And ive downloaded more than 3500mb within that time frame.. Multiple times.

Its only started happening since they 'upgraded' my Upload to 1mb.. (About 3 days ago)

[Stephen!]

Then you have been extremely lucky.

Are you on cable?

[[Chris]]

I am. I dont think its luck when ive done it multiple times..

[Stephen!]

Going from cable to ADSL... I could never do it.

[Jacob]

We use Talk Talk and it's considerably good ;) isn't it?

[[Chris]]

Mhmm, I do have a BT line apparently, its just not hooked up.
But i'd rather get constant internet..

[N!ck]

Going from cable to ADSL... I could never do it.

On cable here at my house at university and ADSL at home. Absolutely nothing wrong with the ADSL.

[[Chris]]

Anyway yeah. Whats BE Like?

[Agnostic Bear]

;6953138']Right. Im getting fed up of Virgin Media now. Getting overcharged, and are now introducing a 'fair use' policy..
They've had a fair use policy for years.


;6953138']Long story short; Fair use policy is stupid/not getting the correct speed even when slowed down/overcharged/yeah.
If you're not getting the speeds advertised ring Virgin Media, they will fix this for you.

[Describe]

They've had a fair use policy for years.


If you're not getting the speeds advertised ring Virgin Media, they will fix this for you.
You can either do this or threaten to leave them, they'll more than likely offer you an improved service.

[[Chris]]

Tried that. He told me i'd downloaded 17.5gb from 5-9. Which i did. But getting throttled AFTER the 5 hours waiting period for downloading nothing. AND considering it was out of peak times and i shouldnt be getting throttled. The guy was an idiot.

I'd rather move tbh. Ive been with NTL for 4 years, then it changed to virgin and ive been there since. Getting 'free' upgrades from 1mb to 10mb :D. But I HAVE NEVER BEEN THROTTLED BEFORE NOW (Even downloading more than i should, during peak times.) So..

Considering BE Gives 2.5x the upload, and 2.4x the download i currently have. Plus a better phone service. For the same price. I THINK theres a problem there..

Although, we were given virgin TV free, we get £13 put into our account every month, and then £11 taken out for the TV. so really, were paying LESS for having the tv thing. Even though its not used :s

[Stephen!]

You have to think though, what speeds are you really going to get on ADSL?

All my friends are on ADSL, and my speed whilst throttled is still faster or sometimes the same speed as what they're getting all the time.

BE say they give you 24MB, you will never, ever get that. No way on an ADSL connection. You would be lucky to get 7.

Yes, I'm trying to defend VM's cable service here (their ADSL is probably the worst in the country). Their cable is a truly brilliant service and since they started the 20MB service, I have never seen it lower than 19MB.

Also, if you start downloading from 4PM, but only hit the limit at say, 8PM, you have to add 5 hours to that time. So your speeds would return at 1AM.

[xxMATTGxx]

You really may as well stay with Virgin until you get like BT Infinity in your area or something.

[Flisker]

BE say they give you 24MB, you will never, ever get that. No way on an ADSL connection. You would be lucky to get 7.


Sorry I would like to disagree with you there, ADSL2+ is designed to offer well over 24MB, due ot it using fibre optic either to the cabinet or directly to your house.

I'm using BT at the moment on an exchange that can only offer up to 8MB.
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1121224249.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
that is my speed with them, bearing in mind I have copper lines from the house all the way to the exchange.

[Stephen!]

Designed to yes, but you'll only get 24MB if you lived inside the exchange.

[Agnostic Bear]

Sorry I would like to disagree with you there, ADSL2+ is designed to offer well over 24MB, due ot it using fibre optic either to the cabinet or directly to your house.

That it's not:

Commercially it is notable for its maximum theoretical download speed of 24 Mbit/s.
I mean sure you can bond 2 ports together and get higher bandwidth but that simply doesn't happen in this country.

FTTC and FTTH are both components of a Cable/Fibre network, not an ADSL2+ one.

[mynameiswootzeh]

So... you want to move because you're being throttled because you downloaded 17gb at peak times, even though you agreed to being throttled in your contract? get a grip, why do you need to download so much at them times anyway

[matt$]

TalkTalk unlimited is pretty cheap, with phone rental and free calls its around £20 for 20mb + i've downloaded something like 200gb (console games btw) within a month for quite a few months and they did nothing.

[Recursion]

That it's not:

I mean sure you can bond 2 ports together and get higher bandwidth but that simply doesn't happen in this country.

FTTC and FTTH are both components of a Cable/Fibre network, not an ADSL2+ one.

Bonding doesn't happen in this country? Yes it does, we're looking at bonding 2 or 4 ADSL connections at work (rural school so no fibre :()

[N!ck]

BE say they give you 24MB, you will never, ever get that. No way on an ADSL connection. You would be lucky to get 7.

With Be* it certainly is realistic. We have an ancient phone line and live about a kilometre away from the exchange and our line syncs at ~14Mb and we get ~ 12Mb on speedtests always no matter what time of day it is. And people who live pretty much next door to the exchange have reported syncing at speeds of over 24Mb, something like 24.5Mb as Be do not cap the speed at all in any way, so it will go as fast as the line's physically capable of 24/7.


That it's not:

I mean sure you can bond 2 ports together and get higher bandwidth but that simply doesn't happen in this country.

FTTC and FTTH are both components of a Cable/Fibre network, not an ADSL2+ one.

Be* do line bonding ;). AFAIK they're to only ISP that will do it for residential connections. BT will do it for businesses etc.

[Agnostic Bear]

Be* do line bonding ;). AFAIK they're to only ISP that will do it for residential connections. BT will do it for businesses etc.


£66.38 /month
12 months contract
£86.81 connection fee


hahahahahaha i'll pay less than that for 100/10 from Virgin. That's pathetic pricing it really is.