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-:Undertaker:-
23-01-2011, 09:05 PM
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United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
This is just a quick question for those who live or come from United Kingdom or its oversea colonies, do you consider yourself mainly British or mainly English/Welsh/Scottish/Northern Irish or Oversea colony (such as Gibraltar) and why, what makes you more inclined to feel that way?
Will be interesting to see results and reasons given, in recent years of course this has become a hot topic with devolution weakening the union between the four countries that make up the sovereign state of the United Kingdom.
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Flag of England
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Flag of Scotland
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Flag of Wales
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Flag of Northern Ireland (Ulster)
I consider myself British and always have done, I barely feel a connection with the country England and feel more cultured towards Great Britain with its history and just in general with the flag and so on.
benjamin
23-01-2011, 09:06 PM
i'm half english and half welsh - but i don't think i've ever actually classed myself as 'british'. weird i guess.
buttons
23-01-2011, 09:07 PM
british when england do something good otherwise i say i'm scottish
Judas
23-01-2011, 09:07 PM
i just say im english really, never british for some reason
Callum.
23-01-2011, 09:08 PM
english, unless murray is winning etc
Inseriousity.
23-01-2011, 09:09 PM
I say british. when I say english I think of the language spoken by us, americans, australians etc. British refers to Great Britain/England whatever you want to call it :)
I consider myself to be English but if say it was the Olympics then i support all of the British teams
dirrty
23-01-2011, 09:17 PM
i've always said british so yeah.
I consider myself Scottish
Stephen
23-01-2011, 09:19 PM
I like to think of myself as african
Neversoft
23-01-2011, 09:22 PM
Aha, I saw a topic asking the exact same question on the discussion boards for This is England on IMDb a few months ago. I've never really thought about it myself, but if a foreigner were to ask me my nationality I would usually tell them I am English. I have no problem with labelling myself as British, but the term just seems too vague these days as there are a lot of foreigners and people from other ethnicities who come over and call themselves British and of course the UK consists of not only England, but Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland as well, so I like to use English as it is more specific and right to me personally.
I thought this was quite interesting;
In their 2004 Annual Population Survey, the Office of National Statistics compared the ethnic identities of British people with their perceived national identity. They found that while 58% of white people described their nationality as "English", the vast majority of non-white people called themselves "British".
Chris
23-01-2011, 09:24 PM
Just English really, never British. :L
Mikey
23-01-2011, 09:30 PM
I consider myself mainly as Scottish.
Catzsy
23-01-2011, 10:34 PM
I am British. :)
Conservative,
23-01-2011, 10:39 PM
I consider myself English & French. Unless Andy Murray actually wins something (OMG NO WAY :O!) In which case British...but anyway...
I have blood connections with Ireland & Scotland but I don't really see myself as either, I prefer to think of myself as English because I was born there, that's where I've lived my whole life and that's how it looks like I'm staying.
French - because my family originated from there, I go there a lot for holidays, we have a holiday home there and all that, so I have a greater connection with there.
lawrawrrr
23-01-2011, 10:55 PM
I hadn't really thought about if before - but English, because my family had proper olde English roots, basically noone from as far back as we can trace doesnt come from England (yeah, not even britain)
JACKTARD
24-01-2011, 03:53 PM
I'd say I consider myself to be British, (I'm English)
Probably because Great Britain sounds better than England
Nationalism
24-01-2011, 08:18 PM
English.
Swearwolf
24-01-2011, 08:23 PM
pretty much scottish
Technologic
24-01-2011, 08:30 PM
Half Welsh, Half Scottish. Family originates from white colonial Kenya. Go me.
Also, i say british.
GommeInc
24-01-2011, 08:33 PM
I call myself English. I think it's to sound precise and exact, seeing as there are different cultures regarding the countries that make up Great Britain (and Ireland).
Casanova
24-01-2011, 08:33 PM
i'm scottish. if someone asks if i'm english, i say no, if someone asks if i'm british i say no.
I'm scottish, from scotland, as is my family as far back as is known. I am in no way british.
Alkaz
24-01-2011, 08:33 PM
I always say that I am British.
I tend to say I'm English. Sometimes I'll say British though.
Some people would class american, canadian and austrialian as english too, so saying british would tell people you're from britain :P
Sarah
24-01-2011, 08:43 PM
I'll say I'm Welsh first then British if they have no clue where Wales is!
Slowpoke
24-01-2011, 10:26 PM
I consider myself a pre-Turkish invasion Greek-Cypriot
Jacob
24-01-2011, 10:37 PM
I consider myself English ;) Always will!
Meanies
24-01-2011, 10:39 PM
i say english
qaxzsw
24-01-2011, 10:42 PM
Both my nans are scottish, both my parents born in England, so I tell people I'm half-english half-scottish though if i had to pick i would chose scottish
Casanova
24-01-2011, 11:13 PM
your nationality isn't what's in your blood technically, it's where you're born.
Yes you can argue you have joint nationality or the bloodline of a country but ultimately it's where you were born. I really get pissed off with people starting the whole.. sister's boyfriends, dad's cousin's daughters son's dog is scottish so aye, i'm a millionth scottish. yeah and I'm all for more lenient immigration laws...
Shockwave.2CC
24-01-2011, 11:38 PM
I find myself British
Even if Scotland do hate England
Casanova
24-01-2011, 11:41 PM
we don't hate the england, we dislike english people whom believe we are lower than them, we are servants to their queen and country and that in some sense they own scotland? yet they all wanna be one sixteenth scottish.
go post in PAPOY :)
English. No question about it.
I'm neither Scottish, Welsh or Irish so i have no need to generalize myself across all 4 countries.
Neversoft
24-01-2011, 11:57 PM
Some people would class american, canadian and austrialian as english too
People who do that are stupid, if they actually exist. English is the language Americans, Canadians and Australians speak, but everyone knows that if you're English it means you're from England. If I ever meet a person who thinks I am American, Canadian or Australian because I said I was English I would probably facepalm myself to death.
RandomManJay
25-01-2011, 03:22 AM
I consider myself British. I rarely ever refer to myself as English unless someone asks me which country I'm specifically from in the UK.
PaulMacC
25-01-2011, 07:53 AM
Irish. Born in Dundalk, Republic of Ireland (while parents were at relatives house).
Ajthedragon
25-01-2011, 08:27 AM
English. I use the british flag though. :P
qaxzsw
25-01-2011, 06:14 PM
your nationality isn't what's in your blood technically, it's where you're born.
Yes you can argue you have joint nationality or the bloodline of a country but ultimately it's where you were born. I really get pissed off with people starting the whole.. sister's boyfriends, dad's cousin's daughters son's dog is scottish so aye, i'm a millionth scottish. yeah and I'm all for more lenient immigration laws...
I call myself scottish even though I was born in england, get over it. I feel way closer to the scottish culture because both of my parents were brought up in scotland.
Shockwave.2CC
25-01-2011, 06:43 PM
we don't hate the england, we dislike english people whom believe we are lower than them, we are servants to their queen and country and that in some sense they own scotland? yet they all wanna be one sixteenth scottish.
go post in PAPOY :)
Yeah but the queen is in charge of Great Britain, so that me England Scotland Wales and N Ireland
So Scotland arnt servants to the queen because she's in charge of the British Isles
Yeah but the queen is in charge of Great Britain, so that me England Scotland Wales and N Ireland
So Scotland arnt servants to the queen because she's in charge of the British Isles
he wasnt saying they were, he was just saying he dislikes people who act like we are, they're are some people who do genuinely believe that :l
I would say I'm Scottish if anyone asked, whenever ive been abroad ive spoken to people and they say they like scottish/irish/welsh but dont like the english, so i wouldnt want to associate with england in that sense lol.
Faboosh
25-01-2011, 09:20 PM
I am Scottish.
i don't see why there is so much divide..
i'm a texan and an american
HotelUser
25-01-2011, 09:55 PM
i don't see why there is so much divide..
i'm a texan and an american
There's a significant amount more tension though between countries of the UK and states of the USA though.
Special
25-01-2011, 11:23 PM
what's the difference between british and english?
but yeah either british or english lol
Conservative,
25-01-2011, 11:27 PM
UGH. This really bugs me:
Just now did 2 questionnaires and they both say "What country do you live in..."
It had NO selection for England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Island or various other British Islands - just "United Kingdom". I'm sorry but if they're going to phrase the question like that, they have to list the countries because the "United Kingdom" is not a country, it is a sub-continent type thing.
Plus I don't like to think of it as "United Kingdom" because of the cultural differences.
Casanova
25-01-2011, 11:53 PM
cultural differences? what do we all celebrate different religions, have different festivals, different heads of state etc? I don't really think that makes sense. Britain is all the same from the outside tbh.
Special: to be british is to come from britain ie any of the four countries in the UK.
to be english is to be english? from england?
party
26-01-2011, 10:39 AM
I've always considered myself as English.
qaxzsw
26-01-2011, 05:51 PM
cultural differences? what do we all celebrate different religions, have different festivals, different heads of state etc? I don't really think that makes sense. Britain is all the same from the outside tbh.
Special: to be british is to come from britain ie any of the four countries in the UK.
to be english is to be english? from england?
Scottish and English culture is significantly different.. for example kilts, bagpipers, hogmanay etc... all are scottish
-:Undertaker:-
26-01-2011, 06:07 PM
cultural differences? what do we all celebrate different religions, have different festivals, different heads of state etc? I don't really think that makes sense. Britain is all the same from the outside tbh.
Special: to be british is to come from britain ie any of the four countries in the UK.
to be english is to be english? from england?
There are signifigant cultural differences, although less I will say with one another as compared with the continent for example.
Catzsy
26-01-2011, 06:23 PM
There are signifigant cultural differences, although less I will say with one another as compared with the continent for example.
This applies from town to town from city to city, from county to county, from region to region, from country to country and from continant to continant. Depends what the argument is over I guess.
-:Undertaker:-
26-01-2011, 06:29 PM
This applies from town to town from city to city, from county to county, from region to region, from country to country and from continant to continant. Depends what the argument is over I guess.
I agree, local dialect for example also differs often - but the gap between the countries of the United Kingdom are far less than the differences between the United Kingdom and the mainland Europe for example, which itself has gaping differences between itself (compare France with Italy for example). The anglosphere shares many similarities, but again it also has large differences.
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