Seriously

[Chippiewill]

Could Moderators please start taking the initiative to move threads like this...
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=685084

...into the spam forum, most threads in spam are more productive than those being created in Discuss Anything these days.

Thread closed by Hecktix (Assistant General Manager): As it involves unnecessary targetting and insulting of staff.

[Mathew]

I must admit,

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=685462

has more discussion than that.

[Inseriousity.]

I have a post in that thread so it should stay where it is :P

lolol oj, the OP says it's 'kinda pointless' so looks to be a no-brainer really!

[The Don]

Yeh, in my opinion that thread belongs in spam, it doesn't really have much depth to it and theres not much you conversation you can go into.

[Chippiewill]

~ Do not posts threads which only allow for short, one or two word answers and do not promote active discussion.

Job done, could moderators start enforcing this rule like they should be, k thnx.

[Catzsy]

It's marginal but seems to be attracting posts with reasonable replies. We leave them sometimes to see what happens. I would say it's fine where it is, personally. You also have the option of using the report button. :)

[Chippiewill]

It's marginal but seems to be attracting posts with reasonable replies. We leave them sometimes to see what happens. I would say it's fine where it is, personally. You also have the option of using the report button. :)

There are like four posts which aren't:

<date> <month>

I'd hardly call that a reasonable reply.

[Jsoh]

I tried to come up with a reason for why it's there but I can't find one - there's no real conversation, and just because it has a poll doesn't mean it can't be in spam!?

[Catzsy]

There are like four posts which aren't:

<date> <month>

I'd hardly call that a reasonable reply.

But the majority are okay and it's over 5 pages long. Are there are any other threads like this as if , if not, it doesn't really seem to be a huge problem and could have queried via the report button.

[Chippiewill]

How was this thread moved:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=685562

But not that one.

[HotelUser]

If it was moved into spam it would render the thread somewhat irrelevant, it has an active poll too.

[Chippiewill]

If it was moved into spam it would render the thread somewhat irrelevant, it has an active poll too.
Poll = can't be moved... HOW?

I'm also not sure how it's irrelevant whilst in spam.

[Catzsy]

How was this thread moved:
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=685562

But not that one.

Well it just looks like a bit of a rant to me and members cannot discuss sackings anyway.
The reasons have already been given to you above as to why the thread is in Discuss Anything.
There maybe threads of more substance in spam but the members chose to post them there and
we don't move them. It's their choice.

[Chippiewill]

Well it just looks like a bit of a rant to me and members cannot discuss sackings anyway.

At least there's a discussion rather than 60 identical posts.

[Chris]

It's fine where it is but I'll keep an eye on it.

[Chippiewill]

It's fine where it is but I'll keep an eye on it.

Justify why this thread in particular is suddenly exempt from forum rules.

This rule
"~ Do not posts threads which only allow for short, one or two word answers and do not promote active discussion."
is specifically designed to combat this type of thread, if moderators won't get off their arses and enforce it then they should be fired.

[Slowpoke]

Because the point of the thread is to discover which months members were born in and collect said information in a poll - something which a lot of forums do. If it was to be moved to spam, discussion would become completely off topic and ruin the thread. As it is, there's no real "spamming" in that thread as most members have only posted once or twice.

[Chippiewill]

Because the point of the thread is just to discover which months members were born in and collect said information in a poll
It's not being run by forum management and there's a rule which it is violating. FACT.


If it was to be moved to spam, discussion would become completely off topic and ruin the thread.
There is no discussion at the moment anyway so I don't see what the problem is.

[Catzsy]

Justify why this thread in particular is suddenly exempt from forum rules.

With respect, one thread that perhaps slipped the net on the first day but attracted replies the majority of which are a lot more than one or two words is perfectly fine. If it had atracted a majority of replies of just one or two words then you would have a complaint. In any event
there is moderator discretion which was used and I am not sure that we have to justify it anyway.

[Chippiewill]

With respect, one thread that perhaps slipped the net on the first day but attracted replies the majority of which are a lot more than one or two words is perfectly fine. If it had atracted a majority of replies of just one or two words then you would have a complaint. In any event
there is moderator discretion which was used and I am not sure that we have to justify it anyway.

I DO have a complaint, because it has "atracted a majority of replies of just one or two words".

If the rule isn't being enforced on the type of thread it's aimed at then why bother keeping it. It is not your job to decide whether a rule is correct or not but to enforce it, granted, discretion, but NOT on the thread it was intended for.

[Slowpoke]

It's not being run by forum management and there's a rule which it is violating. FACT.


The Moderators and Administrators have the right to use their discretion in regard to the rules when executing punishments as a result of rule violation.

FACT. :)

[Nicola]

Because the point of the thread is to discover which months members were born in and collect said information in a poll - something which a lot of forums do. If it was to be moved to spam, discussion would become completely off topic and ruin the thread. As it is, there's no real "spamming" in that thread as most members have only posted once or twice.

This exactly. If that thread was moved to spam it would just turn completely off topic. There is nothing wrong with where that thread is and myself, for one, actually find it quite interesting. There are plenty more than just 5 posts in there that aren't just stating what month their birthday is too. What would be the point of moving that thread to Spam, it isn't spam at all.

[Catzsy]

I DO have a complaint, because it has "atracted a majority of replies of just one or two words".

If the rule isn't being enforced on the type of thread it's aimed at then why bother keeping it. It is not your job to decide whether a rule is correct or not but to enforce it, granted, discretion, but NOT on the thread it was intended for.

You are making a mountain out of a molehill - it is one thread. We are not robots we use our common sense. It is a popular thread. As I said previously you could have simply used the report button.

[Chippiewill]

FACT. :)

That is not en-keeping with the spirit of what you quoted, this is intended for where there is a post that violates a rule but does not fit the criteria of what it is preventing. This does violate the rule AND satisfy the criteria of what the rule is trying to prevent.

I also noticed that a whole bunch of moderators enjoyed their:

<day> <month>

Free posts, as a result your opinion is biased and therefore I no longer care of your opinion.


You are making a mountain out of a molehill - it is one thread. We are not robots we use our common sense. It is a popular thread. As I said previously you could have simply used the report button.
Moderators had clearly seen it.
Super Moderators had clearly seen it.
The forum manager had CLEARLY seen it.

This thread is aimed at general management, not the completely upside down forum department which can't do it's job.

And it is not just one thread, I have brought up this isssue in the past but moderators seem to feel that they shouldn't close 'Post your' threads that they like.

[Catzsy]

That is not en-keeping with the spirit of what you quoted, this is intended for where there is a post that violates a rule but does not fit the criteria of what it is preventing. This does violate the rule AND satisfy the criteria of what the rule is trying to prevent.

I also noticed that a whole bunch of moderators enjoyed their:

<day> <month>

Free posts, as a result your opinion is biased and therefore I no longer care of your opinion.

Yes of course we are all biased and desperate to get our post count up. You have a complaint about the moderators I suggest you either pm Nicola or actually file a complaint. If it was happening on a regular basis I think you would have a point.

[Chippiewill]

Yes of course we are all biased and desperate to get our post count up. You have a complaint about the moderators I suggest you either pm Nicola or actually file a complaint. If it was happening on a regular basis I think you would have a point.

It is happening on a regular basis.
You are biased if you posted in that thread without closing it.
I am not going to PM Nicola because she is guilty of the EXACT SAME CRIME.
And this is my complaint, out to the General Management in PUBLIC that this rule should be enforced, and not ignored because moderators don't like it.

[Slowpoke]

That is not en-keeping with the spirit of what you quoted

No, it's not, but I felt with the whole "FACT." thing you were trying to be a bit of a smart arse with me so I felt it my duty to throw one back :P


If it was happening on a regular basis

Which it isn't

edit:


It is happening on a regular basis.

You'll probably need to post a few more examples as evidence to go with your complaint

And on that note, maybe this thread should be moved to complaints to await a reply from general management? (how ironic) :P

[Catzsy]

It is happening on a regular basis.
You are biased if you posted in that thread without closing it.
I am not going to PM Nicola because she is guilty of the EXACT SAME CRIME.
And this is my complaint, out to the General Management in PUBLIC that this rule should be enforced, and not ignored because moderators don't like it.

Examples please? I don't think you will find a lot. Also do you have no basis on which to judge
1. That moderators don't like the rule
or
2. That they ignore it because they don't like it. I don't think posting in a thread pointless or is a crime though. :P

[Slowpoke]

What would a moderator stand to gain? I don't see the logic :S

[Nicola]

There's a difference in posting threads such as "What month is your Birthday?" and threads such as "What colour are your socks right now?".

[Chris]

There's a difference in posting threads such as "What month is your Birthday?" and threads such as "What colour are your socks right now?".

This.

It seems it's you vs the rest of habbox forum...

[Chippiewill]

No, it's not, but I felt with the whole "FACT." thing you were trying to be a bit of a smart arse with me so I felt it my duty to throw one back :P
I wasn't being a smart arse, I was putting out that fact that there were no: ifs, ands or buts.



You'll probably need to post a few more examples as evidence to go with your complaint

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=566384
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=613830
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=683933
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=679232
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=680517

Basically any thread in discuss anything with a poll.



And on that note, maybe this thread should be moved to complaints to await a reply from general management? :P
I'd rather it not be swept under the carpet like every other negative comment about habbox. And if a moderator does take the liberty of 'moving it for me' out of 'generosity' then I'll just open a new thread.


There's a difference in posting threads such as "What month is your Birthday?" and threads such as "What colour are your socks right now?".
Somehow I fail to see this.



This.

It seems it's you vs the rest of habbox forum...

It seems like me vs the corrupt habbox forum department who posted in that thread justifying why they were not doing their job.




1. That moderators don't like the rule
or
2. That they ignore it because they don't like it. I don't think posting in a thread pointless or is a crime though. :P
Moderators are not enforcing the rule, that's it. Why, you don't agree with it.

[Slowpoke]

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=566384
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=613830
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=683933
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=679232
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=680517

Basically any thread in discuss anything with a poll.


I'd rather it not be swept under the carpet like every other negative comment about habbox. And if a moderator does take the liberty of 'moving it for me' out of 'generosity' then I'll just open a new thread.

The only one I agree with is the Christmas Day thread although that's not being used anymore - and I only partially agree

[Chippiewill]

The only one I agree with is the Christmas Day thread although that's not being used anymore - and I only partially agree

They all violate the rule, none of them were locked.

[Catzsy]

I wasn't being a smart arse, I was putting out that fact that there were no: ifs, ands or buts.



http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=566384
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=613830
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=683933
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=679232
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=680517

Basically any thread in discuss anything with a poll.


I'd rather it not be swept under the carpet like every other negative comment about habbox. And if a moderator does take the liberty of 'moving it for me' out of 'generosity' then I'll just open a new thread.


Somehow I fail to see this.




It seems like me vs the corrupt habbox forum department who posted in that thread justifying why they were not doing their job.



Moderators are not enforcing the rule, that's it. Why, you don't agree with it.

Yes that's what we are ' the corrupt mod department'. You have caught us! :D Now you have had your say and produced threads some of which are historic stickied have already been discussed at length recently and the others look perfectly fine to me. Hardly backs up your decision to post a thread about one thread when the report button could have been used.

[Slowpoke]

I believe nvrspk4 and other general managers before him explained why threads like "What are you listening to" are allowed and why they will continue to stay open and stay where they are. There were lots of feedback threads about them with surprisingly in depth debates about them too "back in the day". :P Someone in General Management will probably be able to explain better

[Catzsy]

I believe nvrspk4 and other general managers before him explained why threads like "What are you listening to" are allowed and why they will continue to stay open and stay where they are. There were lots of feedback threads about them with surprisingly in depth debates about them too "back in the day". :P Someone in General Management will probably be able to explain better

They already have recently in another very long thread.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=681798&daysprune=-1

[Hecktix]

That is not en-keeping with the spirit of what you quoted, this is intended for where there is a post that violates a rule but does not fit the criteria of what it is preventing. This does violate the rule AND satisfy the criteria of what the rule is trying to prevent.

I also noticed that a whole bunch of moderators enjoyed their:

<day> <month>

Free posts, as a result your opinion is biased and therefore I no longer care of your opinion.


Moderators had clearly seen it.
Super Moderators had clearly seen it.
The forum manager had CLEARLY seen it.

This thread is aimed at general management, not the completely upside down forum department which can't do it's job.

And it is not just one thread, I have brought up this isssue in the past but moderators seem to feel that they shouldn't close 'Post your' threads that they like.

Oh I do love how you criticise our staff when they give you a response you don't like which most members agree with and can see the logic behind.


No, it's not, but I felt with the whole "FACT." thing you were trying to be a bit of a smart arse with me so I felt it my duty to throw one back :P



Which it isn't

edit:



You'll probably need to post a few more examples as evidence to go with your complaint

And on that note, maybe this thread should be moved to complaints to await a reply from general management? (how ironic) :P

I haven't seen you around here for a while, but you are getting one very deserved +Rep.


They all violate the rule, none of them were locked.

Let me link you to a post by Slowpoke who seems to understand it quite well: http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=685647&p=6971969#post6971969

Quite frankly, you try this on every month and I'm bored of it. Each month you get the same reply from Forum and General Management, there is nothing wrong with those threads it's discussing a valid topic - what month peoples birthdays are in, looking through the thread most of the posts aren't pointless at all and contribute to the topic, it's not a random topic which people reply to millions of times - it's asking for factual information and building a poll to show the data, if it were in spam the thread would go off topic and therefore prove utterly useless.

I'm really glad you aren't a moderator because there were days when this forum was ridiculously too strict and you seem to want to go back to them, I'm going to close this thread now because you seem adamant on insulting our staff - who have all replied to this thread and being their boss, I'm at liberty to say the work they've done in this thread, is bloody excellent so keep it up mod department.