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Phil
13-02-2011, 09:46 PM
Why has 'Report Reputation Problems' received its own, private sub-forum and 'Report Infraction Problems' is still public? Would some people not be uncomfortable publicly reporting their infractions just like negative reputations? There are often some arguments in the thread and it creates a negative atmosphere. If it's made private, infractions and arguments would be a lot more confidential.

Thoughts?

Hecktix
13-02-2011, 09:52 PM
The "Report Reputation" system was turned private as because the Moderation team recieved quite a few complaints about members targetting other members after reporting reputation problems, i.e. User X -reps user Y, user Y reports it, user X sees it, user X then continues to -rep them. It also allows a more complete explanation in private too, for instance in private you can give the name of the user.

The report infraction problems thread doesn't have that sense - our Moderation Team have nothing to hide and I think the thread is a good example of seeing justice done, it's also useful for people to get a grasp of how our systems work, for instance "i did this, why did i get infracted this is unfair" would be responded to with an answer of why the infraction was fair, if it was. It is a good learning experience for all members, the infracted and those reading it just to be nosy. I think over the years this thread has been pivotal for people learning from rule breaks - infractions aren't private anyway really, there's always a big red edit on the post :P

Phil
13-02-2011, 09:54 PM
Okay, I was just pwned. Thanks Oli :P

Hecktix
13-02-2011, 09:59 PM
It's useful feedback Phil, but I just think it's a useful thing to keep as it is - thanks for the feedback :D

Chippiewill
13-02-2011, 10:15 PM
I feel it should be allowed to directly PM the forum manager if you really want to keep it private.

Richie
13-02-2011, 10:20 PM
I'm not trying to be the negative one, I'm not sure how it works now days but you might aswell remove -rep, as much as I love it everyone gets it remove, everyone reports it and everyone gets mollycoddled.

Hecktix
13-02-2011, 10:22 PM
I'm not trying to be the negative one, I'm not sure how it works now days but you might aswell remove -rep, as much as I love it everyone gets it remove, everyone reports it and everyone gets mollycoddled.

Not true at all Richie.

Richie
13-02-2011, 10:30 PM
Not true at all Richie.

What part isn't true oli? Have things honestly changed that much? are management not overprotective anymore? Everyone reports -reps and if my memory serves correctly there were threads in the past about how management remove rep even if it isn't pointless.

Oh and the above is more of an opinion than a statement.

Hecktix
13-02-2011, 10:31 PM
Looking at the reported rep now, in the past week only 6 out of 14 reported have been removed. A lot of given reputation is pointless however reputation will only be removed if it breaks reputation rules.

Richie
13-02-2011, 10:35 PM
Looking at the reported rep now, in the past week only 6 out of 14 reported have been removed. A lot of given reputation is pointless however reputation will only be removed if it breaks reputation rules.

The rule should apply both ways. If a post has a +1 beside it even though it may be a pointless comment, surely that should be removed too as its only fair?

Hecktix
13-02-2011, 10:38 PM
The rule should apply both ways. If a post has a +1 beside it even though it may be a pointless comment, surely that should be removed too as its only fair?

There should (don't quote me on it as I know the thread has changed recently) be a clause within the rep instructions thread stating that by reporting negative rep problems you are submitting yourself to having your rep over the past month checked and pointless positive reputation should be removed. Nicola is doing this as far as I am aware however I will remind her as well, as I agree it's important to keep it up on both sides of the scale.

Nicola
14-02-2011, 10:46 AM
Why has 'Report Reputation Problems' received its own, private sub-forum and 'Report Infraction Problems' is still public? Would some people not be uncomfortable publicly reporting their infractions just like negative reputations? There are often some arguments in the thread and it creates a negative atmosphere. If it's made private, infractions and arguments would be a lot more confidential.

Thoughts?


I feel it should be allowed to directly PM the forum manager if you really want to keep it private.

As Oli said the report infractions thread has been left there publicly so people can learn from other people's mistakes and learn why what they did was wrong and hopefully not make a repeat offence.


What part isn't true oli? Have things honestly changed that much? are management not overprotective anymore? Everyone reports -reps and if my memory serves correctly there were threads in the past about how management remove rep even if it isn't pointless.

Oh and the above is more of an opinion than a statement.

The part that isn't true is that no rep gets removed :P there have been some instances last week where I haven't removed the rep because they deserved to get the rep and it wasn't just pointless.


The rule should apply both ways. If a post has a +1 beside it even though it may be a pointless comment, surely that should be removed too as its only fair?

As said by Oli again, any pointless +rep will be removed also. It is stated in the report reputation instructions thread.

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