Deleting threads - Forum Rules.

[The Don]

Hey, just looking through the rules. I thought you might want to update the rules. I've noticed gm deleting threads before and in the rules it says
We can (WITHOUT ANY PRIOR NOTICE) edit, close/lock, move, duplicated or publish any of your posted content because as soon as it is posted, you are the author of the content, but it becomes property of Habbox UK Forum.
it doesn't say you can actually delete any threads. thought you might want to update this.

[HotelUser]

I think it's extremely rare that a thread would get hard deleted. Usually when threads disappear they're just moved into an area of the forum where users can't see them. I'm not sure if that would require adding that they uphold the right to delete threads, or if it would just fall under permission to move threads.

[The Don]

Well adding it wouldn't be too hard and threads do sometimes get deleted so it'd be better to have it in there than not be mentioned. Plus, richie's thread like a month ago got deleted, just naming an example of when this has happened.

[xxMATTGxx]

Well adding it wouldn't be too hard and threads do sometimes get deleted so it'd be better to have it in there than not be mentioned. Plus, richie's thread like a month ago got deleted, just naming an example of when this has happened.

How do you know these has been deleted when they get moved out of public view?

[Hecktix]

I've only ever seen three threads get deleted at Habbox and they were when I was a Super Moderator. I'm pretty sure Richie's thread wasn't deleted anyway - just moved to an unaccessible part of the forum (for all).

HabboxForum will not advertise the deleting of threads as then we will get more requests to delete content which at the current time we do not do.

[The Don]

How do you know these has been deleted when they get moved out of public view?

Well I got repped for one of my comments in that thread, and the thread link was not there and also richie said that he also couldn't view it so i'd assume it's deleted. was it not?

[-Danube-]

Dont they go to area 51? So technically not deleted?

[Hecktix]

Well I got repped for one of my comments in that thread, and the thread link was not there and also richie said that he also couldn't view it so i'd assume it's deleted. was it not?

I moved that thread out of public view, didn't delete it, I did split a lot of the posts though and moved some of them into the General Management forums for reference - this may have caused the link problem.

[The Don]

I've only ever seen three threads get deleted at Habbox and they were when I was a Super Moderator. I'm pretty sure Richie's thread wasn't deleted anyway - just moved to an unaccessible part of the forum (for all).

HabboxForum will not advertise the deleting of threads as then we will get more requests to delete content which at the current time we do not do.

Thanks for clearing that up. I guess that's why it's not in there. Cheers.

[xxMATTGxx]

Dont they go to area 51? So technically not deleted?

Indeed they do.

[-Danube-]

I think it would be counter productive for threads to be deleted anyway, As if someone kicks off in future about something that was in the thread, we would have nothing to reference too. By keeping the threads but putting them out of site of nearly everyone, they are still there if they ever need to be evidenced.

[Hecktix]

I think it would be counter productive for threads to be deleted anyway, As if someone kicks off in future about something that was in the thread, we would have nothing to reference too. By keeping the threads but putting them out of site of nearly everyone, they are still there if they ever need to be evidenced.

Also keeps the thread count up haha

[Conservative,]

I've noticed my post count go down by about 5-10 the last 2 days. o.O

[FlyingJesus]

Can I be admin so I can look at all the naughty things people post

[Chris]

I've noticed my post count go down by about 5-10 the last 2 days. o.O

That could be due to the threads you posted in being moved to a forum which does not allow post counts to rise, so it deducts it from your total post count.

[Hecktix]

Can I be admin so I can look at all the naughty things people post

You wouldn't want to.


That could be due to the threads you posted in being moved to a forum which does not allow post counts to rise, so it deducts it from your total post count.

This guy speaks the truth

[nvrspk4]

The only time threads / posts have ever been deleted was when there was a brief high-level spat which resulted in the deletion of an account or two. That was a loooong time ago, before I was an admin (probably before I was a SMod too).

The only exception was that we used to delete the replies to the "Report Reputation Here" thread, but I started moving the posts instead so I had reference, so that was back when I was an admin.

There may have been occasional small-scale deleting, since admins can, but I doubt it was ever an issue (for example, I deleted my accidental double posts sometimes, because I could and it was easier than merging.) <<POWER ABUSE!!!!

Just some historical background for those interested :D

[Nuxty]

Well, as everyone has started the threads are only moved out of the public eye, they aren't actually deleted from HxF, so to me, the rule looks pretty accurate?

[Inseriousity.]

I've had posts recently moved cos I got +repped/-repped for it and the thread's now called...

inseriousity being...

lolol that's all I got but I doubt it's a positive word so probs for the best i can't see it :P.
PS YOU FORGOT THE DOT, grr

As deleting threads isn't normally an issue, I don't really think a rule change is necessary :)

[Hecktix]

I've had posts recently moved cos I got +repped/-repped for it and the thread's now called...

inseriousity being...

lolol that's all I got but I doubt it's a positive word so probs for the best i can't see it :P.
PS YOU FORGOT THE DOT, grr

As deleting threads isn't normally an issue, I don't really think a rule change is necessary :)

If all the posts are moved to one place it'll change the thread name on reps, btw the rest is "silly" ;). If a post you were +repped for was merged into another post it'll disappear.

[beth]

in all honesty, does it matter?

[Eoin247]

in all honesty, does it matter?

Well i suppose it matters wheter or not that thread could be accessed again in the future.

However moving threads to an unnaccesable part of the forum is pretty much deleting them in all but name really. The only difference is that gm might access the thread for whatever reason in the future.

[nvrspk4]

No, it's Moving the thread. Deleting means it no longer exists, Moving means it is moved somewhere else. The distinction is pretty clear because they use the "Move thread" button. It's still there if they choose to move it back into public view, need to refer to it, or if the DB needs to draw the information for some reason.

Also, the reason "Delete" isn't in the T&C (not the rules) is because a later bullet point is


We will not delete user accounts, user threads, posts or otherwise submitted content to our web site.

Which is in there for a variety of reasons, most notably users who come back with wild and crazy stories to demand that we delete their account/thread/posts. Having this and including "delete" in the first point would be contradictory, and the current (not ever deleting) is more along the lines with Habbox policy. So while I understand the caution in just including it to cover our backs, it would directly contradict clearly stated policy in the other direction.

Anyway, we have the standard corporate "cover your back" term that we reserve the right to change these T&C without any notice at any time etc (not that we wouldn't give notice, it's mostly a legal protection as we went over in a thread not too long ago).

[Eoin247]

I realise that. What i was saying was since members can't even see the thread anymore, you might as well call it deleted for everybody but gm.

[nvrspk4]

I realise that. What i was saying was since members can't even see the thread anymore, you might as well call it deleted for everybody but gm.

And I disagree. Deleted means that it no longer exists on the forums database. Moved means that it still exists on the forums database, somewhere.