Japan Donator / VIP

[iLogan]

In light of recent events, I have a suggestion.

Maybe HabboxForum could set up a Japan donator or VIP and give the funds to RedCross or something like that, just an idea :P

[Josh]

I'd do it.

[tylermunjkt]

I'd buy it :P

[jackass]

Make it VIP and it's a deal! ;)

[GommeInc]

Wouldn't it take about a year to get the permission to sell the donator from our Habbo overlords, if VIP is mentioned? It might be a bit too soon to suggest this, the Japanese may not need assistance. It depends on what they decide.

[triston220]

I would buy this.

[Jordan]

You can't buy VIP... you're not allowed. Donator yes go for it, I'm sure I would try and buy some!

[Aidenn]

If all causes went to charity they'd be able to sell VIP.

I think its a great idea however its up to Jin shes hes the financial expert :P

[xxMATTGxx]

This is one of the things where the decision would have to come from Jin himself, as it would mean any donations Habbox gets would be going to the Red Cross charity, like Aiden has said he's the financial expert. VIP can only be sold when all money goes to charity and not Habbox themselves.

I'll see If I can get some sort of answer.

[Nicola]

It's a really nice idea but as Matt said it's up to Jin to decide this really, so we'll have to wait!

[Eoin247]

It's definetaly a nice idea and i would buy it.

[Grig]

Yeh, but the thing is why do it for Japan and not New Zealand, or when the next quake strikes. It could be people demanding too much after a while, if you get what I'm saying.

But in a shell I'd buy some.

[flatface]

I'd buy it too

[Cwmbran]

Yeh id buy it if it was vip

[geo]

i'd probs buy it (:

[sophiethenerd]

I would buy it.

[,elaboratedolls]

I'd definitely buy it! Seeing as I love Japan so much, and was just heartbreaking to see the wonderful scenery washed away.
What if we did the donator/VIP in the Japanese Flag's colors? Or we got that little userbar thing (I'm not sure what to call it) and it said: Japan Tsunami/Earthquake Donator/VIP with a little japanese flag on the right? That would be coool.

[Stephen]

Yeh, but the thing is why do it for Japan and not New Zealand, or when the next quake strikes. It could be people demanding too much after a while, if you get what I'm saying.

But in a shell I'd buy some.

I agree with thissss. First the japan earthquake.. so does that mean it will happen for every natural disaster? :S

Also you gotta think about donator too. I'm not sure how donations affect hxf server costs and stuff but if this vip was released then hxf is gonna be without donations during the time because everyone is obviously gonna choose vip over donator. Btw don't give me **** for thinking about hxf costs when people are dying in japan blahblahblah please

[Zuth]

It's a nice idea! If buy it :)

[Nemo]

If anything it should also have been for the other natural disasters, im pretty sure japan are more than fine with handling themselves in terms of money.

[Stephen]

If anything it should also have been for the other natural disasters, im pretty sure japan are more than fine with handling themselves in terms of money.

Lol that is so true

if it was for when haiti had a quake then I'd be all for it

[Hecktix]

I agree with thissss. First the japan earthquake.. so does that mean it will happen for every natural disaster? :S

Also you gotta think about donator too. I'm not sure how donations affect hxf server costs and stuff but if this vip was released then hxf is gonna be without donations during the time because everyone is obviously gonna choose vip over donator. Btw don't give me **** for thinking about hxf costs when people are dying in japan blahblahblah please

I agree. Also, if you want to donate to this disaster - donate - you shouldn't only donate because you're gonna get something out of it.

You can donate (like I have) to the British Red Cross who help people in all types of crisis like this by clicking here (http://www.redcross.org.uk/). I'm pretty sure the BRC will set up a fund specifically for Japan soon, although you can donate straight to the cause via the Canadian Red Cross (https://secure.e2rm.com/registrant/donate.aspx?EventID=66175&LangPref=en-CA&Referrer=direct%2fnone)

[Sharon]

it's a bit off topic but it's amusing seeing seeing everyone go ''i'll buy it IF IT'S VIP'' sorry but just think about how the people in japan are right now, then reread what you just put.

[.x.miss.angel.x]

I'd buy anything donater or vip or whatever, I want to help :) Since, this is a very big disaster, not everywhere had an 8.9 earthquake, Tsnami, nucelar leaking, oil rigs in flames ect... And if you donate it to redcross it would most likely go to other places too :)

[Grig]

I'd buy it too :) Since, this is a very big disaster, not everywhere had an 8.9 earthquake, Tsnami, nucelar leaking, oil rigs in flames ect... And if you donate it to redcross it would most likely go to other places too :)

If you are donating, it will go for a charity. Habbox is not going to send a person directly to Japan to distribute the money LOL. Although it is one of the big problems with many charities, that a lot of the money is fused into other things. Habbox is not a charity and I think in a way doing it for a disaster is quite selfish, because I know quite a few people posted in this thread simply because they would want the VIP and will probably forget why they bought it in a month's time. If you really care go donate via external outlets and not Habbox.

[Partian]

the Japanese may not need assistance.
Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet, ANY money will be a help, thats like saying
you won't need funding for education from the government (not the best example) however, that is just a bad attitude to have. Sorry if I sound very aggressive but that is a pity that someone has that attitude to such a globally effected disaster

[Grig]

Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet, ANY money will be a help, thats like saying
you won't need funding for education from the government (not the best example) however, that is just a bad attitude to have. Sorry if I sound very aggressive but that is a pity that someone has that attitude to such a globally effected disaster

So far, they haven't needed any or else they would have called in for wide scale international aid and they haven't, so yes he is to a sense speaking some truth. Quite frankly, this was an extremely rude reply. The example you have given is completely irrelevant to the topic.

[Nemo]

Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet, ANY money will be a help, thats like saying
you won't need funding for education from the government (not the best example) however, that is just a bad attitude to have. Sorry if I sound very aggressive but that is a pity that someone has that attitude to such a globally effected disaster
No its like when a man has 40 cars, probably more, and has 1 of his cars nicked. No worries, he can still drive about.

[xxMATTGxx]

They haven't asked for much international help apart from the USA and near by countries such as Australia I believe.

[Partian]

They haven't asked for much international help apart from the USA and near by countries such as Australia I believe.

It's still nice to offer though, generosity is never a bad thing.
And isn't Australia not suppose to be warned about them getting hit?

[nvrspk4]

At the end of the day Habbox can't do a charity for every disaster, sometimes there is a very big issue where Habbox may choose to do something, but also remember that financially people who buy VIP probably won't buy donator, and more importantly are less likely to buy during the Christmas donations drive.

So the question is, do you really want to donate to the Japanese earthquake? Yes, it's a humanitarian tragedy, I agree, but at the end of the day because of Japan's strict building codes, damage was minimized, though there's a lot of problems. That said, Japan has one of the world's strongest economies and a stable government, and they're getting aid from abroad.

If there is a massive need for funds, we'll probably see that in a week or two, but I doubt it will be the case. If anything, we can wait for that to see if the funds are needed, but I doubt the shortfall will be as significant as things like the disaster in Haiti, or the floods in Pakistan.

[Partian]

No its like when a man has 40 cars, probably more, and has 1 of his cars nicked. No worries, he can still drive about.

So your saying Japan has money?

[Grig]

So your saying Japan has money?

Unless you have been thinking that Japan was located smack bang in the middle of the African continent for the past 10 years, then yes they have money, and more than LEDCs.

[nvrspk4]

So your saying Japan has money?

The cost of rebuilding after the earthquake is estimated at 2-3% of Japan's GDP. So yes, they have money.

[xxMATTGxx]

So your saying Japan has money?

Considering they spend billions on their buildings for earthquakes, yes. They have quite a lot of money!


It's still nice to offer though, generosity is never a bad thing.
And isn't Australia not suppose to be warned about them getting hit?

They are no longer at risk I believe.

[Stephen]

They haven't asked for much international help apart from the USA and near by countries such as Australia I believe.

Let's hope they don't drop a bomb on them

and why do people think japan is a poor country

[Grig]

Let's hope they don't drop a bomb on them

and why do people think japan is a poor country

Because the education system is in taters. Most people think Hong Kong is in Japan LOL.

Japan will cope, as I echoed earlier, without international aid I would presume.

[Hecktix]

Matt and I have just had a chat and have decided that Habbox will not be doing anything special for Japan at the moment, as I said earlier if you want to donate to the red cross you can however Japan have not asked for International Aid at this point.

[xxMATTGxx]

Because the education system is in taters. Most people think Hong Kong is in Japan LOL.

Japan will cope, as I echoed earlier, without international aid I would presume.

Depends what education you go to to then, I was never told Japan was a poor country! Anyway;

In regards of Habbox donating to the Japanese earthquake, I think it's going to be a no. We would be expected to donate to every disaster going and that would be somewhat impossible for Habbox to do. Although, if people on HabboxForum really want to help then there is a number of charities that are accepting donations due to what has happened in the area.

You could always suggest these charities for 2011 Christmas VIP Charity donation when that time comes a long, depending how we go about that this year.

One of the many places where you can donate:
Amercian Red Cross Japan Earthquake and Pacific Tsunami Appeal (http://american.redcross.org/site/PageServer?pagename=ntld_main&s_src=RSG000000000&s_subsrc=RCO_BigRedButton)

[Nemo]

So your saying Japan has money?
Well yes, atleast enough so that they dont need any aid.

[JerseySafety]

Yeh, but the thing is why do it for Japan and not New Zealand, or when the next quake strikes. It could be people demanding too much after a while, if you get what I'm saying.

But in a shell I'd buy some.

I agree with this. If you do it for Japan you have to do it for pretty much every country that experiences a fatal disaster.

I mean it's a good idea, I'd buy some.

[GommeInc]

If anything it should also have been for the other natural disasters, im pretty sure japan are more than fine with handling themselves in terms of money.
I think this too... We're not entirely sure how much damage has been done, and if the Japanese would want help so soon after the disaster. They are quite a rich nation, indeed, but any help is useful - it just depends if they need it immediately :P


Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet, ANY money will be a help, thats like saying
you won't need funding for education from the government (not the best example) however, that is just a bad attitude to have. Sorry if I sound very aggressive but that is a pity that someone has that attitude to such a globally effected disaster
Richer than most of the other countries that could and maybe effected soon, not to mention they've not made any immediate cries for help like New Zealand.

[e5]

This would be a VIP one ;) ey lets do it!

[Richie]

Everyone says "every little counts" I don't see how 100quid could help them in the slightest when they are actually receiving help from like 45 other countrys.

I think vip is the main reason for this thread, people who actually want it just want vip. Otherwise they'd just go to a website supporting Japan and donate.

[GommeInc]

Everyone says "every little counts" I don't see how 100quid could help them in the slightest when they are actually receiving help from like 45 other countrys.

I think vip is the main reason for this thread, people who actually want it just want vip. Otherwise they'd just go to a website supporting Japan and donate.
Interestingly, donating to official organisations linked to the disaster would mean more money going to the cause, some have dramatically reduced text rates and admin handling charges, so officially going to the British Red Cross would be wiser.

[Banana Pancakes]

Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet, ANY money will be a help, thats like saying
you won't need funding for education from the government (not the best example) however, that is just a bad attitude to have. Sorry if I sound very aggressive but that is a pity that someone has that attitude to such a globally effected disaster

Japan is the third largest economy in the world, disregarding the EU.

[Conservative,]

Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet, ANY money will be a help, thats like saying
you won't need funding for education from the government (not the best example) however, that is just a bad attitude to have. Sorry if I sound very aggressive but that is a pity that someone has that attitude to such a globally effected disaster

Japan ARE actually up there with the richest considering their technical prestige. They may be small but they are VERY advanced and rich.

Anyway, I'm going to be honest. I wouldn't buy it. I don't have the money and if I did I'd probably donate it to the Red Cross because I think it's pointless.

If you really want to help then donate directly. You should donate because you want to, not because you get VIP for it.

And even so, if it does happen, why didn't it for Haiti last year? Or New Zealand?

[Special]

i don't think i'd buy it - it's unfair that we could have donator for Japan but not for every other natural disaster that has happened around the world

if i'm going to donate, i'll donate directly to them not via a forum

[Repentance?]

sounds great and don't forget guys this tsunami wont be over in days so if it does take months to set up the money will still help for clear ups, building work, supplies, etc ;D i would defiantly donate!

[Stephen]

I think we've all guessed that everyone only wants to do it for the vip and nothing else. I don't reckon anyone has clicked the links oli posted and donated any amount of money so yeah, it aint happening so you guys without vip are gonna have to wait until xmas or think of a better way to get vip

am I really gonna do this?

www.habbox.com/comps

[Grig]

I think we've all guessed that everyone only wants to do it for the vip and nothing else. I don't reckon anyone has clicked the links oli posted and donated any amount of money so yeah, it aint happening so you guys without vip are gonna have to wait until xmas or think of a better way to get vip

am I really gonna do this?

www.habbox.com/comps

Or http://www.habboxforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=209. That is the link to debates btw, seeing as I don't have such a catchy url re-direct as those girls at comps.

[Gina]

I would beg my dad for a phone topup nd buy it ;p

[Catzsy]

Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet, ANY money will be a help, thats like saying
you won't need funding for education from the government (not the best example) however, that is just a bad attitude to have. Sorry if I sound very aggressive but that is a pity that someone has that attitude to such a globally effected disaster

I think you will find they are the second richest country in the world. I agree with the 'no' vote here as there are always natural disasters as Stephen said, tragic as it is, and as Hecktix said if one feels that they would to contribute they can. Would set a bad precedent, I feel and not make the Christmas VIP drive so special.

[Recursion]

I don't understand why you guys are being so stingy? Jeeze, you can still run the Xmas donator as well as the Japan one. Frankly, some of the views in this thread are rediculous.

I don't care if they're relatively rich or not, and yes, they ARE still at risk.

[xxMATTGxx]

I don't understand why you guys are being so stingy? Jeeze, you can still run the Xmas donator as well as the Japan one. Frankly, some of the views in this thread are rediculous.

I don't care if they're relatively rich or not, and yes, they ARE still at risk.

So by that post you want Habbox to do this for every major disaster that will happen in the world?

[Stephen]

if everyone is so not bothered about vip then make it donator instead

[tylermunjkt]

Just make a donator! As Japan are in serious trouble at the moment!

[Hecktix]

if everyone is so not bothered about vip then make it donator instead

Either way, when Japan has not asked for International Aid, Habbox simply cannot afford this.

[triston220]

Either way, when Japan has not asked for International Aid, Habbox simply cannot afford this.

Make Japan donator £0.50 more expensive, and give that to Japan. That way you aren't losing out.

[Recursion]

So by that post you want Habbox to do this for every major disaster that will happen in the world?

Ones that are particularly big, I don't see why not. It's not like something like Japan's disaster happens everyday, jeeze they had an earthquake, a Tsunami, they're fighting with nuclear reactors and a volcanic eruption.

[xxMATTGxx]

Ones that are particularly big, I don't see why not. It's not like something like Japan's disaster happens everyday, jeeze they had an earthquake, a Tsunami, they're fighting with nuclear reactors and a volcanic eruption.

Then feel free to donate to them, not every site and including Habbox cannot afford to do this every time one of these events happen.

[triston220]

Then feel free to donate to them, not every site and including Habbox cannot afford to do this every time one of these events happen.

But it's our money.

[Hecktix]

But it's our money.

Then donate it to an official charity helping Japan.

[Richie]

Then feel free to donate to them, not every site and including Habbox cannot afford to do this every time one of these events happen.

Not trying to make you look bad or anything but that makes no sense, if it did go forward the money would come from habboxs users not habbox lol

I personally don't think we should have a donater feature for japan, it's about the vip to be fair otherwise you'd donate to the red cross.

[Alex3213]

But it's our money.

contribution: a voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause.
voluntary: Done, given, or acting of one's own free will

This is suggesting that you're donating at your own will to a cause which needs help. If you're donating, don't expect to get anything out of it. Donate to the charities which are helping Japan if you really care.

[Hecktix]

Not trying to make you look bad or anything but that makes no sense, if it did go forward the money would come from habboxs users not habbox lol

I personally don't think we should have a donater feature for japan, it's about the vip to be fair otherwise you'd donate to the red cross.

If we direct the money for any donator towards another cause that isn't Habbox, Habbox is losing out. Donator is there to fund Habbox, we don't just have it there for the hell of it.

[Richie]

contribution: a voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause.
voluntary: Done, given, or acting of one's own free will

This is suggesting that you're donating at your own will to a cause which needs help. If you're donating, don't expect to get anything out of it. Donate to the charities which are helping Japan if you really care.

That's arguable but then again you are saying people aren't basically donating to habbox they're buying additional features., which sulake doesn't allow.

[Jin]

Not trying to make you look bad or anything but that makes no sense, if it did go forward the money would come from habboxs users not habbox lol

I personally don't think we should have a donater feature for japan, it's about the vip to be fair otherwise you'd donate to the red cross.


That's arguable but then again you are saying people aren't basically donating to habbox they're buying additional features., which sulake doesn't allow.

Richie you are very very very wrong in both these posts.

1) We can sell additional features providing we don't pocket the money for instance if it goes to charity.
2) Yes granted Habbox it self doesnt lose any money as you would assume that the majority of people who donated as such may not buy donator for that month anyway. The problem is the long term effect it has on our finances, there are people who are using the 2009 xmas charity vip. These people are unlikely to have bought donator since this period that is a loss in revenue.

3) It may not cost Habbox users anything but it will cost me and sierk money. The 09 christmas charity has cost me and sierk £90 each. Then we have 2010 on top which will cost us less I reckon.

4) If users don't mind having this limited edition donator for 2 weeks and spending £3 for it with the maximum purchase being 2 weeks then I guess we could implement it.

The way people have been pushing for this makes me a bit cynical over the humanitarian aspect of this especially when we have said no and suggested making a donation to a charity involved. I don't mean offence by this but using us as a middle man for donations will actually result in about 15% loss in tax.

[Neversoft]

Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet

Actually they are one of the richest countries on the planet.

[Jessicrawrr]

aw i'd buy this, even though japan don't particularly need the money(yet), nice thought:')

[jackass]

Yeah, Japan has the second highest GDP, behind USA. :)

[Chippiewill]

Guys if you want Japan donator, here are the following steps:

1) Buy coloured donator of your choice from the habbox donate page
2) Goto http://www.redcross.org.uk/japantsunami/ and donate the amount of your choice, the more, the better
3) Go to http://www.habboxforum.com/profile.php?do=editprofile and edit your title to say "I donated to Japan and didn't have to buy special habbox vip/donator to pretend that I actually care"
4) ???
5) Success

Habbox gets monies
Japan gets monies
You get less monies but more happynies

[triston220]

contribution: a voluntary gift (as of money or service or ideas) made to some worthwhile cause.
voluntary: Done, given, or acting of one's own free will

This is suggesting that you're donating at your own will to a cause which needs help. If you're donating, don't expect to get anything out of it. Donate to the charities which are helping Japan if you really care.

I'm merely stating that Habbox wouldn't be losing anything for adding it.

[Nemo]

I'm merely stating that Habbox wouldn't be losing anything for adding it.
Except they would because ppl wouldnt be buying normal donator since VIP is much better and so hxf loses money

[Alex3213]

I'm merely stating that Habbox wouldn't be losing anything for adding it.


Except they would because ppl wouldnt be buying normal donator since VIP is much better and so hxf loses money

This really. You care? You donate to the red cross. You help. You don't get anything extra because it's a donation, not a trade. You happy that you donated, well of course only if you do care.

[Stephen]

Except they would because ppl wouldnt be buying normal donator since VIP is much better and so hxf loses money

wow I was like the first person to say about this but no one cares cos mine is on a different page.

COPYRIGHT STEPHEN

and tbh guys if they were to do it then obviously it should be donator. Anyone who thinks it should be vip has just been trapped into a "I ONLY CARE ABOUT THE VIP" box

[GommeInc]

I don't understand why you guys are being so stingy? Jeeze, you can still run the Xmas donator as well as the Japan one. Frankly, some of the views in this thread are rediculous.

I don't care if they're relatively rich or not, and yes, they ARE still at risk.
You can still donate through Red Cross (not my choice but it always comes up) or through other charities and organisations, most of which would give more of your money to the cause.

[Yamaha]

Are you joking, they arn't exactly the RICHEST country on this planet, ANY money will be a help, thats like saying
you won't need funding for education from the government (not the best example) however, that is just a bad attitude to have. Sorry if I sound very aggressive but that is a pity that someone has that attitude to such a globally effected disaster

This is Japan, one of the richest countries in the world. While it is such a terrible disaster that has happened it is worth knowing that the tsunami only came into land about 2 miles in. So when you look at it like that, such a rich country with only a small area demolished; they will be able to sort it out themselves. I'm sure they would really appreciate help and extra funding but all I am saying is that they don't need it as much as you would think.

[Jin]

I don't understand why you guys are being so stingy? Jeeze, you can still run the Xmas donator as well as the Japan one. Frankly, some of the views in this thread are rediculous.

I don't care if they're relatively rich or not, and yes, they ARE still at risk.

No that statement is ridiculous so ridiculous that I shall answer it with an equally ridiculous answer:

"Because unfortunately our money tree doesn't bloom till around May."

If people care so much about this disaster go donate to the red cross in a true selfless act, you aren't going to get a cookie, medal or a shiny badge but you will be doing what people claim to be their agenda of helping in a way during this disaster. Habbox doesn't need to act as the middle man for you to do this.

This thread is heading on it's way to becoming closed as the discussion is going in circles.

[Cwmbran]

Something to do with VIP just popped into my head, not sure if its been suggested or anything before but... Couldn't you sell VIP constantly with a percentage going to a charity and the rest to Habbox?
Say if VIP was £1.50 the 50p could go to charity? Or have Sulake already stamped that idea out?

[Stephen]

finding a way of getting around the fansite way rule on vip or whatever and then doing it is just telling habbo that you're trying to be a smartarse tbh

[Cwmbran]

finding a way of getting around the fansite way rule on vip or whatever and then doing it is just telling habbo that you're trying to be a smartarse tbh
iam a smartarse and i want vip :(

[Alkaz]

Couldn't you sell VIP constantly with a percentage going to a charity and the rest to Habbox?
Say if VIP was £1.50 the 50p could go to charity? Or have Sulake already stamped that idea out?
They kind of stamped out all of these ideas when they said all (100%) of the proceeds have to go to charity. As far as I am aware they've not budged on relaxing the new rules since they were introduced a couple of years ago.

[GommeInc]

Something to do with VIP just popped into my head, not sure if its been suggested or anything before but... Couldn't you sell VIP constantly with a percentage going to a charity and the rest to Habbox?
Say if VIP was £1.50 the 50p could go to charity? Or have Sulake already stamped that idea out?
They will still moan - Habbo have repeatedly mentioned how any exclusive features is against the Fansite Rules. This covers any amount going to Habbox. Literally all the money has to go to charity if charity is mentioned, as it is seen as profiting from charity - are people donating to charity, knowing most goes to Habbox? Unfortunately, Habbox have to obey Habbo, no matter how stupid they are.

[Jin]

Yeah it really isn't like we do it just to cause a fuss. I wrote a huge letter when it first came out highlighting our costs which at the time were substantially higher and how we relied on proceeds such as these to keep operating. They still were having none of it though I believe they will be reviewing this rule in a few months time.

[GommeInc]

Yeah it really isn't like we do it just to cause a fuss. I wrote a huge letter when it first came out highlighting our costs which at the time were substantially higher and how we relied on proceeds such as these to keep operating. They still were having none of it though I believe they will be reviewing this rule in a few months time.
Hopefully common sense and basic human decency will prevail. It was unbelievably insulting seeing such a rule come into existence. Fansites benefit Habbo in ways they cannot imagine. They didn't even give a reason for bringing it in! People only assume it's because fansites are raking in money from Habbo, and even then that's assuming Habbo actually have a reason for bringing in the rule, because there really is no logical reason for it :P

[Hecktix]

I agree with it being a stupid rule. I was talking to Redtiz about it in HxHD a few months ago and she said she thinks it's something to do with legal reasons.
I think some fansites were scamming users through VIP sales and sales of other produce and parents were contacting Habbo blaming Habbo as obviously the root of fansites is Habbo, and they are the big company, fansites are small organisations ran by young people.

Silly reasoning if yu ask me and it's just stronger support for a more defined fansite list.
Hopefully common sense and basic human decency will prevail. It was unbelievably insulting seeing such a rule come into existence. Fansites benefit Habbo in ways they cannot imagine. They didn't even give a reason for bringing it in! People only assume it's because fansites are raking in money from Habbo, and even then that's assuming Habbo actually have a reason for bringing in the rule, because there really is no logical reason for it :P

[AgnesIO]

Sulake would be better allowing their fansites on the list to sell it, then say anyone not on tbhis list is not authorised to sell, if you buy - that is your fault.

Although, if VIP for Japan can not allow Habbox to get some profit then it should be sold. It would be financially stupid to give yet another months money to charity, when there are already large costs.

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Sorry if Jin has said anything, not read the 90 something posts, just giving my initial thoughts.

[Jonster]

1. Create Habbox Charity
2. Introduce VIP on Habbox where all proceeds go to Habbox Charity
3. Habbox Charity supports Habbox
4. ???
5. Profit

[AgnesIO]

1. Create Habbox Charity
2. Introduce VIP on Habbox where all proceeds go to Habbox Charity
3. Habbox Charity supports Habbox
4. ???
5. Profit

Because this hasn't been brought up 10,000 times.

[lawrawrrr]

I'm going to simply agree with a lot of people in this thread - if you feel the need to donate then you should be doing it selflessly... not for personal gain or benefit (even if the 'gain' is a few pixels... the principle still stands).

[AgnesIO]

I'm going to simply agree with a lot of people in this thread - if you feel the need to donate then you should be doing it selflessly... not for personal gain or benefit (even if the 'gain' is a few pixels... the principle still stands).

But it doesn't work like that. People, in general, don't do things to help others without anything in it for them.

There is a reason Christmas VIP makes £500 a year minimum, yet Donor makes less.

People pay for VIP for the features, not to help whatever charity Habbox chooses to support.

- Just the general user, I am sure the odd person donates to help the charity..

[Jin]

But it doesn't work like that. People, in general, don't do things to help others without anything in it for them.

There is a reason Christmas VIP makes £500 a year minimum, yet Donor makes less.

People pay for VIP for the features, not to help whatever charity Habbox chooses to support.

- Just the general user, I am sure the odd person donates to help the charity..

Does that make Habbox sierk and me the most charitable if we are paying to keep Habbox running in December so we can run the charity fundraiser and allow the users a chance in the year to buy VIP? :S

I think it has become quite clear that we have no interest in this for rational reasons.

[Jonster]

Because this hasn't been brought up 10,000 times.

Hasn't it? That's good then. I mean it would be a horrible shame if it had. It's not like it was intended as a joke or anything. I guess our senses of humour are different then.

[AgnesIO]

Does that make Habbox sierk and me the most charitable if we are paying to keep Habbox running in December so we can run the charity fundraiser and allow the users a chance in the year to buy VIP? :S

I think it has become quite clear that we have no interest in this for rational reasons.

I don't understand, Jin?

I was supporting you, not sure what your post was saying..

[Hecktix]

I don't understand, Jin?

I was supporting you, not sure what your post was saying..

He's saying that if people buy VIP at christmas for VIP - it makes him and Sierk the most charitable as they cover the running costs of Habbox for that month.

[GommeInc]

He's saying that if people buy VIP at christmas for VIP - it makes him and Sierk the most charitable as they cover the running costs of Habbox for that month.
Not really as they're just paying to keep the sites going :P The charitable ones are the ones actually giving to charity :P That said, covering the costs yourself is selfless and a means to allow others to be charitable :)