Why you shouldn't support godaddy

[Firehorse]

Today I found out that godaddy supports the hunting of elephants, and it is just horrible.

Video (contains scenes upsetting to some and of animal being butchered)
http://www.video.me/ViewVideo.aspx?vid=380843
What do you think of this? I'll be moving the domain I have with them elsewhere, this is one of several reasons to.

[Stephen]

lol I think he shot himself with a truckload of karma

[xxMATTGxx]

Found this on twitter before: "Hey @godaddy - I own four hundred domains. Your CEO killed an elephant for "sport." Watch me "sport" my domains to another registrar."

[N!ck]

Use the coupon code "BYEBYEGD" to transfer up to 10 .com/.net/.org domains to namecheap.com for $4.99 each. $1 from each goes to save the elephants.

Namecheap is currently running very slowly due to high traffic :).

[GommeInc]

GoDaddy have always come off as lousy before this ever happened anyway. He's pretty much just picked out the design for his coffin with these latest actions, next comes hammering him inside it (and so the analogy goes).

[Jordy]

Is the guy a complete moron or something? First of all why would you think for a minute that would solve the problem? The elephants will just keep coming back and there's far better ways to feed people than kill endangered species to feed villagers wearing GoDaddy.com hats...

And second of all why would you post a video of it on the Internet?

In a week or so, this firm's going to be near enough dead I reckon. For the light-hearted though, this Twitter account is nothing short of hilarious (it's not real!); http://twitter.com/GoDaddy_PR

[GommeInc]

Is the guy a complete moron or something? First of all why would you think for a minute that would solve the problem? The elephants will just keep coming back and there's far better ways to feed people than kill endangered species to feed villagers wearing GoDaddy.com hats...

And second of all why would you post a video of it on the Internet?

In a week or so, this firm's going to be near enough dead I reckon. For the light-hearted though, this Twitter account is nothing short of hilarious (it's not real!); http://twitter.com/GoDaddy_PR
In a way, it's good for those people in Zimbabwe so we shouldn't jump to conclusions and say it's morally wrong when those people do need food and work to survive - even if it is debateable shooting them will actually work. However, the problem here is that in Western society killing elephants (and most animals for that matter) and bragging about it isn't socially acceptable, especially when it's the Western civilisations that buy into your company and keep you afloat. It's stupid at a business level to admit to shooting elephants and bragging about it is doing good, when many people out there will strongly disagree.

It would be like Lord Sugar going out and hunting Whales with the Japanese - the Japanese find it acceptable to hunt whales in the way they do, but in the countries his business empire are founded and operated in, doing such a thing will literally cripple you.

[Jordy]

In a way, it's good for those people in Zimbabwe so we shouldn't jump to conclusions and say it's morally wrong when those people do need food and work to survive - even if it is debateable shooting them will actually work. However, the problem here is that in Western society killing elephants (and most animals for that matter) and bragging about it isn't socially acceptable, especially when it's the Western civilisations that buy into your company and keep you afloat. It's stupid at a business level to admit to shooting elephants and bragging about it is doing good, when many people out there will strongly disagree.I guess that is true but I'm really struggling to see their point of view despite their desperation and possibly "culture". Killing endangered species to eat is very unsustainable and a very narrow-minded short term solution, there's other ways to move problem elephants away. And without getting all political I can't help pointing out... Zimbabwe used to have the best farms in Africa and sold it's produce all over the World, then the wonderful Mugabe drove away all the experienced white farmers and divided their land between clueless black africans.

[Janet Snakehole]

lol I think he shot himself with a truckload of karma

Hahaha couldn't of put it better.


Found this on twitter before: "Hey @godaddy - I own four hundred domains. Your CEO killed an elephant for "sport." Watch me "sport" my domains to another registrar."

Saw you RT this! I don't have any domains registered with them but if I did I'd totally be doing the same.

[GommeInc]

I guess that is true but I'm really struggling to see their point of view despite their desperation and possibly "culture". Killing endangered species to eat is very unsustainable and a very narrow-minded short term solution, there's other ways to move problem elephants away. And without getting all political I can't help pointing out... Zimbabwe used to have the best farms in Africa and sold it's produce all over the World, then the wonderful Mugabe drove away all the experienced white farmers and divided their land between clueless black africans.
You may have struck the nail on the head with this. It was one of the greatest, but simply isn't as great as it used to be. These farmers do not appear to be able to protect themselves and their crops from elephants, it's one of those issues where do you kill them, scare them away to only have them come back or give up? They cannot afford to erect security around the area to stop them, so they are limited in options it seems, despite elephants being endangered. I assume the government or any local government cannot assist them either. It's just one those situations where people could die or live in a seriously low quality area.

It does make you wonder if there are organisations involved in helping them protect elephants and helping them protect their crops from them at the same time, as you'd think animal and poverty charities would be getting involved :/

[AgnesIO]

Hi Bob, I am the founder of the Afriicademy and Anti-Poaching Unit. If you view our recent Knysna Elephant Park Facebook video clip you will see that we are working on a vaccine that is basically a chemical castration of males. Our anti poaching unit provides jobs for local villages. This encourages them to get involved in wildlife and conservation in a proactive way and feeds them. I would like to invite you to become a patron of our project. How do I go about interacting or presenting directly to you?
Regards
Greg
Greg Vogt (http://www.knysnaelephantpark.co.za) (South Africa) on Mar 30 2011, 06:26am Reply

Dear Greg,

I understand what you're doing, but to me it makes no sense to chemically castrate a bull elephant. Much better to shoot it and let starving villages eat it.

Bob
bob parsons on Mar 30 2011, 01:30pm Reply

Quoted from bobparsons.me

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I will never support your company. shame on you for killing animals for fun and promoting it. If you can handle killing such a gorgeous creature, you can surely handle "name calling".
Disgusting and shameful!!
veganshani on Mar 29 2011, 10:31pm Reply

Dear veganshari,

I can handle name calling just fine. The point I made is that when one resorts to name calling it makes them come across as unintellectual, uninformed and childish.

Bob
bob parsons on Mar 30 2011, 01:20pm Reply

Perhaps she should have at least tried to deny the fact he was killing them for fun..

[Trinity]

Today I found out that godaddy supports the hunting of elephants

Really? Where did you read this? I have seen that Bob Parsons likes to protect poor people and make sure that elephants don't cause them to starve to death, I have seen absolutely nothing suggesting that the Go Daddy company supports the hunting of elephants.

Transferring domains will have very little effect on Bob Parsons, it will just cause a few of the innocent staff to be fired due to the reduced workload.

Also, I agree with pretty much everything GommeInc said.

[Oleh]

I am all against killing majestic creatures such as these. But if it was for a poor village then i can see where he's coming from.

I did see a man down a giraffe with a bow for sport, that was bad, but this is justifiable, the same way you eat Chicken or fish... FOR FOOD!

[Agnostic Bear]

If the guy wants to have a bit of fun whilst doing something to help some starving villagers get back on their feet then why the **** not. Go Bob Parsons you have my full support for supporting those villagers.

[AgnesIO]

The last few posters are gullible..

He is only making it out that he did it all to help the "starving villagers" because if he didn't, the entire world would go mental..

If you really think he cares about helping others, then think again.

[Zuth]

Found this on twitter before: "Hey @godaddy - I own four hundred domains. Your CEO killed an elephant for "sport." Watch me "sport" my domains to another registrar."

I saw this too, hope godaddy fails now. I don't have any domains with them but if I did id be transfering asap.

[Firehorse]

Really? Where did you read this? I have seen that Bob Parsons likes to protect poor people and make sure that elephants don't cause them to starve to death, I have seen absolutely nothing suggesting that the Go Daddy company supports the hunting of elephants.

Transferring domains will have very little effect on Bob Parsons, it will just cause a few of the innocent staff to be fired due to the reduced workload.

Also, I agree with pretty much everything GommeInc said.


I am all against killing majestic creatures such as these. But if it was for a poor village then i can see where he's coming from.

I did see a man down a giraffe with a bow for sport, that was bad, but this is justifiable, the same way you eat Chicken or fish... FOR FOOD!

Firstly as a food source this is extremely unsustainable, and even in the video it claims there isn't enough food for the whole village and would probably only last them one day. As for getting rid of problem elephant, there are other non-lethal ways of doing it.

This elephant was a perfectly healthy one which had no reason to be put down. Bob Parsons is doing this for sport and claiming he did it for the villagers as a cover up.

The meat of the animal would mean nothing to Bob Parsons, so feeding it to the villagers makes him look generous when it's worthless to him anyway - but notice how he doesn't mention who got to keep the ivory tusks. Probably him, for a trophy.

If you believe the ** in the video then you are as Milestone said, very gullible.

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Also i'd like to point out the video has been edited since I posted it. They have removed the pictures of him smiling infront of the dead elephant and also removed the rock music backtrack when villagers went to butcher the animal. They also removed a shot of the godaddy logo on the hats they handed out to the villagers.

[Oleh]

i never watched the video, only going off what has been said.

[AgnesIO]

Firstly as a food source this is extremely unsustainable, and even in the video it claims there isn't enough food for the whole village and would probably only last them one day. As for getting rid of problem elephant, there are other non-lethal ways of doing it.

This elephant was a perfectly healthy one which had no reason to be put down. Bob Parsons is doing this for sport and claiming he did it for the villagers as a cover up.

The meat of the animal would mean nothing to Bob Parsons, so feeding it to the villagers makes him look generous when it's worthless to him anyway - but notice how he doesn't mention who got to keep the ivory tusks. Probably him, for a trophy.

If you believe the ** in the video then you are as Milestone said, very gullible.

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Also i'd like to point out the video has been edited since I posted it. They have removed the pictures of him smiling infront of the dead elephant and also removed the rock music backtrack when villagers went to butcher the animal. They also removed a shot of the godaddy logo on the hats they handed out to the villagers.

He said on his website the ivory tusks went to some local organisation or something, not sure if that is true.

Will re-watch the video..


i never watched the video, only going off what has been said.

I suggest you try and find the original video, and then tell us what you think.

[GommeInc]

Also i'd like to point out the video has been edited since I posted it. They have removed the pictures of him smiling infront of the dead elephant and also removed the rock music backtrack when villagers went to butcher the animal. They also removed a shot of the godaddy logo on the hats they handed out to the villagers.
By doing that it's proving he's guilty. He's trying to remove any evidence of the claims the general public are coming out with, despite the fact he seems happy to justify himself, though rather badly. He would of been considered a saint if he gave them some sort of sustainable food source, but it does look like he was doing it for sport when he himself had nothing to do with the elephant after death.

[Happylife10]

lol, i think he shot himself

[AgnesIO]

lol, i think he shot himself

I think you got the wrong idea.

People are angry, because he shot an elephant, not himself.

[Stephen]

I think you got the wrong idea.

People are angry, because he shot an elephant, not himself.

LOL

I think he meant shot himself as in what I said, shot himself by putting that video up

[AgnesIO]

LOL

I think he meant shot himself as in what I said, shot himself by putting that video up

Stephen.. I was joking.

I have been posting in this thread since the start :P

[Stephen]

well tbh I don't know if you're a ****** or not :P

[GommeInc]

Stephen.. I was joking.

I have been posting in this thread since the start :P
You blatantly weren't, we all know you were being serious :P

[redtom]

My god this is crazy killing pests which eat and destroy crops, then to top it of instead of leaving the animal there they have the cheek not to waste it by eating it, this is INSANE! I'm glad we don't do this in the uk. Oh wait, we do just because an animal isn't wild in the Western world doesn't make it any different from the ones over here. The only difference is we don't eat pests we waste them by letting them rot.

[GommeInc]

My god this is crazy killing pests which eat and destroy crops, then to top it of instead of leaving the animal there they have the cheek not to waste it by eating it, this is INSANE! I'm glad we don't do this in the uk. Oh wait, we do just because an animal isn't wild in the Western world doesn't make it any different from the ones over here. The only difference is we don't eat pests we waste them by letting them rot.
I personally wouldn't want to eat a rat, fox or a few other pests :P Elephants are pretty much in the same family as cows when considering meat. It's a bit like if cows roamed the UK, they would become pests if not fenced away from crops. The comparison is a bit dodgy saying we're wasteful for not eating pests, when pests vary from contininent and culture :)

[Stephen]

I don't think people get it though.. I don't care if an african farmer kills an elephant for doing whatever to his crops etc but when some guy goes there to kill them because they are good sport and then uses them being pests and starving villagers as an excuse doesn't really make sense.. Do the people really need his help? Doubt it

[GommeInc]

I don't think people get it though.. I don't care if an african farmer kills an elephant for doing whatever to his crops etc but when some guy goes there to kill them because they are good sport and then uses them being pests and starving villagers as an excuse doesn't really make sense.. Do the people really need his help? Doubt it
It's arguable that the elephants are at all to blame for the "starving" farmers. Loads of sources are suggesting the matter is a political one, not a pest a problem as perceived here. Elephants maybe big, but they cannot possibly be going through fields and farms eating everything :S Either the farms are too small, or the farmers aren't being allowed to protect themselves through other means. Besides, why did he shoot them? Surely the farmers and the population in that area are more than capable of killing animals? You do not need guns to take an elephant down, afterall.

[redtom]

I don't think people get it though.. I don't care if an african farmer kills an elephant for doing whatever to his crops etc but when some guy goes there to kill them because they are good sport and then uses them being pests and starving villagers as an excuse doesn't really make sense.. Do the people really need his help? Doubt it

True he is doing it for fun more than anything but if he's going to do it surely it's better to do that sort of thing in a way that benefits instead of just going out and hunting elephants for no purpose.

@GommeInc

By pests I mean an animal that is an annoyance to livestock or crops, so in this case elephants do fall into that category. Your taking a very stereotypical western view of this, that the people over there must have something wrong with them for harming the poor elephants, where instead the elephants ruin crops for farmers and provide a great food source. The point I'm trying to make is that animals such as Cow are seen as food here but elephants are not, where as there elephants are seen as food because ultimately that is what they are. If elephants were wild in the UK we would see no problem in killing and eating them but obviously we would make them naturally extinct and breed them only for this. Where clearly in that video they do not, they just wait for the elephants to enter there farm and then deal with them, any dead elephants then serve as food. So ask yourself this how is it that your perfectly fine with the way we treat animals in the UK, where as they let them live freely over there.

In response to your point about not eating pests why don't we? There's nothing wrong with it, most probably taste very nice too. We simply don't because over time we've become to think of ourselfs as too good for that when in actual fact the majority of people on the planet do eat animals to be considers pests, ranging from Rats to Elephants. To top it off we only stopped eating animals like this fairly recently.


You do not need guns to take an elephant down, afterall.

How would you suggest doing it baring in mind you want it to happen quickly, cheaply and extremely easily.

[GommeInc]

@GommeInc

By pests I mean an animal that is an annoyance to livestock or crops, so in this case elephants do fall into that category. Your taking a very stereotypical western view of this, that the people over there must have something wrong with them for harming the poor elephants, where instead the elephants ruin crops for farmers and provide a great food source. The point I'm trying to make is that animals such as Cow are seen as food here but elephants are not, where as there elephants are seen as food because ultimately that is what they are. If elephants were wild in the UK we would see no problem in killing and eating them but obviously we would make them naturally extinct and breed them only for this. Where clearly in that video they do not, they just wait for the elephants to enter there farm and then deal with them, any dead elephants then serve as food. So ask yourself this how is it that your perfectly fine with the way we treat animals in the UK, where as they let them live freely over there.
I never questioned any of the bits mentioned in your post, particularly the bits in bold. So I'm not sure where your argument comes from to be honest :/


In response to your point about not eating pests why don't we? There's nothing wrong with it, most probably taste very nice too. We simply don't because over time we've become to think of ourselfs as too good for that when in actual fact the majority of people on the planet do eat animals to be considers pests, ranging from Rats to Elephants. To top it off we only stopped eating animals like this fairly recently.
You do know that pests like rats and foxes are riddled with disease in the UK? Many of the famous plagues were helped along by these animals, particularly rats :P Foxes usually have some sort of skin disease and eat the vilest of things like road kill, and sometimes poisons laid out by farmers. Other pests like rabbits are already eaten in the UK. I wouldn't recommend picking up a rat on the street and eating it (after cooking or not). The only time you can eat rats are literally wild, rural rats and that's assuming they're away from sewer systems and stagnant water - perhaps it's a problem with Western civilisation and the way they deal with waste? :P




How would you suggest doing it baring in mind you want it to happen quickly, cheaply and extremely easily.
When did I say I wanted them to kill elephants, with extreme detail in doing it fast? :S You seem to be putting words into an argument that doesn't exist :S

[redtom]

I never questioned any of the bits mentioned in your post, particularly the bits in bold. So I'm not sure where your argument comes from to be honest :/

Chances are if its not relevant I either read a different post thinking it was from you, or misinterpreted what you said. :P


You do know that pests like rats and foxes are riddled with disease in the UK? Many of the famous plagues were helped along by these animals, particularly rats :P Foxes usually have some sort of skin disease and eat the vilest of things like road kill, and sometimes poisons laid out by farmers. Other pests like rabbits are already eaten in the UK. I wouldn't recommend picking up a rat on the street and eating it (after cooking or not). The only time you can eat rats are literally wild, rural rats and that's assuming they're away from sewer systems and stagnant water - perhaps it's a problem with Western civilisation and the way they deal with waste? :P

True certain ones carry diseases but only a few would case their meat to cause a danger to people once properly cooked, I'm not saying we should eat rats, and I probably wouldn't want to eat them either. The point is that elephants are pests there, you can't deny that. Obviously their very different to rats here. On a side note rats which live much worse conditions than the sewer system here are eaten allot in Africa as there free and everywhere. Also you have to consider these people are very undeveloped compared to us, no so long ago we would have done the same.

Rabbits are hunted because they taste good, not because their pests.


When did I say I wanted them to kill elephants, with extreme detail in doing it fast? :S You seem to be putting words into an argument that doesn't exist :S

Think about the topic of the debate... think about the video we're talking about... think about what I quoted...

The farmers wants to get rid of the elephants quickly, cheaply and easily.

I asked it as if you were in the farmers shoes.

so again...


How would you suggest doing it baring in mind you want it to happen quickly, cheaply and extremely easily.

or if you like how would you suggest stopping the problem of elephants without killing them.

[AgnesIO]

Chances are if its not relevant I either read a different post thinking it was from you, or misinterpreted what you said. :P



True certain ones carry diseases but only a few would case their meat to cause a danger to people once properly cooked, I'm not saying we should eat rats, and I probably wouldn't want to eat them either. The point is that elephants are pests there, you can't deny that. Obviously their very different to rats here. On a side note rats which live much worse conditions than the sewer system here are eaten allot in Africa as there free and everywhere. Also you have to consider these people are very undeveloped compared to us, no so long ago we would have done the same.

Rabbits are hunted because they taste good, not because their pests.



Think about the topic of the debate... think about the video we're talking about... think about what I quoted...

The farmers wants to get rid of the elephants quickly, cheaply and easily.

I asked it as if you were in the farmers shoes.

so again...



or if you like how would you suggest stopping the problem of elephants without killing them.

If the locals kill them, you know what? We should keep our noses out.

What I am against, is Western people killing them for sport - and then trying to pull the wool over our eyes and suggest it was for the locals..

[GommeInc]

Chances are if its not relevant I either read a different post thinking it was from you, or misinterpreted what you said. :P
I did wonder why you said it, when I've been saying how stupid it is for the GoDaddy owner to do it and the farmers are free to do what they want :P The GoDaddy owner operates within Western Society who are against such actions so he has shot himself in the foot. Suggesting the farmers are evil is silly, when they are at liberty to do what they want. So I agree with you :P


Rabbits are hunted because they taste good, not because their pests.
They're pests where I am from :P They're eaten as a bonus of being shot for being pests, than the other way around. Rabbit isn't a widely consumed meat either, ther than in the farming and "country" communities. Only time I've seen rabbit is in Waitrose and at farm/country shows where they're usually found in game pie :P



Think about the topic of the debate... think about the video we're talking about... think about what I quoted...

The farmers wants to get rid of the elephants quickly, cheaply and easily.

I asked it as if you were in the farmers shoes.

so again...



or if you like how would you suggest stopping the problem of elephants without killing them.
Hard to say as I am not a farmer in Africa and elephants are different to the usual pests you find. In Africa they're at liberty to do what they want to protect their crops. That said, on a political scale you would think a country that was once fruitful would help the farming community in protecting itself against elephants. Shooting them is fine, but I'd prefer a sustainable way of doing it by either breeding them, or erecting something that could scare them off or keep them away.

We're sidetracking from the original topic anyway, seeing as it's meant to be about the GoDaddy owner, than the farmers who are a sub-topic :P The GoDaddy owner is a bit of a pillock for making a sport out of killing elephants, and proclaiming he's helping the farmers. He should of left the elephant be and let the farmers deal with the problem, which I assume they have the tools to do so. By intervening, he's not supporting them other than giving them the meat from the kill. If he was to support them, he would do something more sustainable. It's like giving a starving African child a bread roll for Comic Relief - it isn't going to solve the problem for any longer than 5 minutes :P

[Moh]

So, I'm a millionaire and I want to help some starving people.. I know, I won't get anything imported for them, I'll fly there and kill an elephant for them.