Spoilers for innapropriate content?

[Judas]

can i just ask why is it necessary for us to put links that contain material and words blocked on the forum (e.g. links to youtube videos with swearing etc) inside spoiler tags?

i just don't see the point? surely putting a clear warning in red and bold or whatever to say it contains swearing is enough?

i'm sure i must just be stupid and missing something because it doesn't make sense at all to me...

[GommeInc]

can i just ask why is it necessary for us to put links that contain material and words blocked on the forum (e.g. links to youtube videos with swearing etc) inside spoiler tags?

i just don't see the point? surely putting a clear warning in red and bold or whatever to say it contains swearing is enough?

i'm sure i must just be stupid and missing something because it doesn't make sense at all to me...
Do YouTube pictures show a "preview" image on a video the moment it loads (but doesn't play) on the forum? I think that might be the reason because some preview pictures could show something inappropriate :)

[Judas]

yeah i see that, but it's even if you just post just a link to the video you're told to put it in a spoiler also

[Richie]

I suppose it just looks neater and if a video is in the open younger members would be more inclined to click play.

[GommeInc]

yeah i see that, but it's even if you just post just a link to the video you're told to put it in a spoiler also
Hmm, when posting a link is a bit dodgy. In a way, posting a link makes it more difficult than pushing the spoiler button (you only use one click, while clicking a spoiler to watch a video takes two clicks, one to open and one to play) :P

[Hecktix]

a video is larger than the warning (unless you put it in obscenely large text) therefore the first thing that your eyes go to is the video, whereas if it's in a spoiler the red text is more visible. Yeah it's quite petty & lame but it makes sense :P

[GommeInc]

a video is larger than the warning (unless you put it in obscenely large text) therefore the first thing that your eyes go to is the video, whereas if it's in a spoiler the red text is more visible. Yeah it's quite petty & lame but it makes sense :P
It kinda makes sense. Afterall, the Debates and Current Affairs forum is proof in a way -people will literally post their view before reading the sources or articles of news. It's only natural :P

[Judas]

a video is larger than the warning (unless you put it in obscenely large text) therefore the first thing that your eyes go to is the video, whereas if it's in a spoiler the red text is more visible. Yeah it's quite petty & lame but it makes sense :P

and for normal links to youtube or whatever?

[Hecktix]

and for normal links to youtube or whatever?

Well, it's in the rule as one as it makes sense to group it altogether I guess, it's not as much of a major issue - no. Not something I'd penalise for if there was a warning and no spoiler

[Judas]

i don't see why it should really exist as a rule then? idk maybe its just me :P

[Hecktix]

i don't see why it should really exist as a rule then? idk maybe its just me :P

It's a rule as a collective, for instance I believe it says something like "mildly inappropriate content may be posted so long as there is a warning and it's in a spoiler". So that counts for all inappropriate content, although some mods won't mind links being posted without spoilers, it's all down to discretion and our rules being subjective - which they should be, or you'd find robotic moderation which would piss us all off.

[Catzsy]

It's a rule as a collective, for instance I believe it says something like "mildly inappropriate content may be posted so long as there is a warning and it's in a spoiler". So that counts for all inappropriate content, although some mods won't mind links being posted without spoilers, it's all down to discretion and our rules being subjective - which they should be, or you'd find robotic moderation which would piss us all off.

Well as long as the mods don't get told off for leaving those with links and no spoiler that's fine. :P I cannot see anything robotic about moderating to this rule which is pretty specific and am unable to see anything robotic about it at all. Either the content is mildly inappropriate and should be in a spoiler or it is not mildly inappropriate. There doesn't seem to be any halfway house here. I do agree though that somebody should not be penalised about it and just reminded unless it happens persistently and they just chose to ignore it.
I have often put content in a spoilerr and put a warning on with a simple reminder. That's where the discretion comes in I believe. :)

[Hecktix]

Well as long as the mods don't get told off for leaving those with links and no spoiler that's fine. :P I cannot see anything robotic about moderating to this rule which is pretty specific and am unable to see anything robotic about it at all. Either the content is mildly inappropriate and should be in a spoiler or it is not mildly inappropriate. There doesn't seem to be any halfway house here. I do agree though that somebody should not be penalised about it and just reminded unless it happens persistently and they just chose to ignore it.
I have often put content in a spoilerr and put a warning on with a simple reminder. That's where the discretion comes in I believe. :)

I believe the textual warning is more important than spoilers, especially when it's just links we're referring to :) But yes, you are right.

[Catzsy]

I believe the textual warning is more important than spoilers, especially when it's just links we're referring to :) But yes, you are right.

Well the rules used to say link or spoiler but they just say spoiler now (which is neater) but the warning is the most important part, I agree. I don't mind either way. Maybe worth a little amend. Nicola?

[Grig]

But with this discretion it may not be very fair if someone gets a warning from one mod and another one completely overlooks it surely? I know discretion when analyzing whether a post is rude or not, but for this I think something standardized should be followed.

[Hecktix]

But with this discretion it may not be very fair if someone gets a warning from one mod and another one completely overlooks it surely? I know discretion when analyzing whether a post is rude or not, but for this I think something standardized should be followed.

Nobody is ever punished for posting mildly inappropriate content without a warning/spoiler, a mod will add a warning & spoiler and just let the person know that they've done it and ask them to do it in the future, obviously if someone repeatedly ignored this further action could be taken. Discretion is in the sense of what is mildly inappropriate and that is down to the moderators' discretion, always has been and works a treat.