A terrible situation in Japan!

[DavidTogashi]

:eek: Temporary shelters and hospitals refuse to accept for fear that they can spread radiation! Now they are required to certificates that they are not exposed to radiation. 49-year-old Takayuki Okamura, one of the ***ushima hospitals refused to treat skin rash from his eight-year daughter, and it was quite a shock for parents... Read more: http://news-japan-earthquake.blogspot.com


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[FlyingJesus]

Well yeah you don't want everyone in the hospital getting contaminated

[Narnat,]

Yeh totally right action why make people sicker than what they are it will just make matters worse.

[flipflop!!]

Come to think of it, I think everyone is taking this Japan stuff a little to far. Yeh theres a lot of nice asian ppl around but, Japan started WW2 and bombed America & couple other countrys, they were killing our, Australian whales for over a year which nearly started a war, i honestly think they don't deserve as much attention as they are getting atm, Yeh theres familys n kids n all, sux, but it also sucked when normal ppl from several countrys like USA, UK, AUS n many more got bombed for nothing.

[FlyingJesus]

Come to think of it, I think everyone is taking this Japan stuff a little to far. Yeh theres a lot of nice asian ppl around but, Japan started WW2 and bombed America & couple other countrys, they were killing our, Australian whales for over a year which nearly started a war, i honestly think they don't deserve as much attention as they are getting atm, Yeh theres familys n kids n all, sux, but it also sucked when normal ppl from several countrys like USA, UK, AUS n many more got bombed for nothing.

Wow. Australians performed a long and horrifying mass genocide of the natives and brewed a national racism problem which still exists to this day, but I don't imagine you'd want people to concentrate on that if you ever needed help. The Brits, the French, the Spanish, the Germans, the Portuguese, the Dutch, the Russians, the Turks, the Persians, the Greeks, the Indians, the Huns, the Mongols, the Chinese, the Arabs, the Italians, the Africans, and many others besides have had empires wrought from having started war, but that doesn't mean that all of us in those countries now are evil and not worth helping

[Nemo]

Come to think of it, I think everyone is taking this Japan stuff a little to far. Yeh theres a lot of nice asian ppl around but, Japan started WW2 and bombed America & couple other countrys, they were killing our, Australian whales for over a year which nearly started a war, i honestly think they don't deserve as much attention as they are getting atm, Yeh theres familys n kids n all, sux, but it also sucked when normal ppl from several countrys like USA, UK, AUS n many more got bombed for nothing.
What tom said and i dont get how someone can be so oblivious to the pain and suffering that others are going through, my god.

[AgnesIO]

Come to think of it, I think everyone is taking this Japan stuff a little to far. Yeh theres a lot of nice asian ppl around but, Japan started WW2 and bombed America & couple other countrys, they were killing our, Australian whales for over a year which nearly started a war, i honestly think they don't deserve as much attention as they are getting atm, Yeh theres familys n kids n all, sux, but it also sucked when normal ppl from several countrys like USA, UK, AUS n many more got bombed for nothing.

Japan started WW2?

All white Aussies ancestors were criminals. Lets not help them, after all they were kicked out England :rolleyes:

EDIT: I feel I should point out, I was obviously exaggerating - many people moved to Australia in recent years. No offence meant!

[flipflop!!]

You guys shoudl read more history on how ww2 started.
It started with USA & Greek or brittian i believe, that got bombed. Australians had nothing to do with it. They helped out just like several other countries. How about our living whales. all yr long they decide to come down on big boats n kill them all. Seriously, Japan can get stuffed.

[AgnesIO]

You guys shoudl read more history on how ww2 started.
It started with USA & Greek or brittian i believe, that got bombed. Australians had nothing to do with it. They helped out just like several other countries. How about our living whales. all yr long they decide to come down on big boats n kill them all. Seriously, Japan can get stuffed.

I wasn't saying Australians started it? I simply said, because most Australians ancestors were criminals, if you now get a terrible natural disaster, should I tell you to get stuffed. In
fact, I might even send you a PM and laugh at you.

It is your that needs to research WW2. Surely you know it was NOT Japan that started WW2..

[Mathew]

Come to think of it, I think everyone is taking this Japan stuff a little to far. Yeh theres a lot of nice asian ppl around but, Japan started WW2 and bombed America & couple other countrys, they were killing our, Australian whales for over a year which nearly started a war, i honestly think they don't deserve as much attention as they are getting atm, Yeh theres familys n kids n all, sux, but it also sucked when normal ppl from several countrys like USA, UK, AUS n many more got bombed for nothing.
Tbh right now it comes down to morals rather than crying over war and attention. If human lives are in danger then it is a matter of saving them.. there is no question about it; and I honestly don't think we'd refuse to help cos' of something which happened decades ago :rolleyes:

Nontheless, natural disasters happen to keep the population down, in my eyes. Everything happens for a reason and we can't keep going on with the rising population. Natural disasters will (and arguably must) happen.

[dbgtz]

You guys shoudl read more history on how ww2 started.
It started with USA & Greek or brittian i believe, that got bombed. Australians had nothing to do with it. They helped out just like several other countries. How about our living whales. all yr long they decide to come down on big boats n kill them all. Seriously, Japan can get stuffed.

Lolwut? I learnt it was the German invasion of Poland that kicked it all off... Then it was all fake or something before they advanced further. I'm sure USA didn't enter until Japan did which was later on... oh well.

Anyway you are quite arrogant. We (England) had slavery and invaded loads of countries in the past so... Yeah.

[FlyingJesus]

You guys shoudl read more history on how ww2 started.
It started with USA & Greek or brittian i believe, that got bombed.

I think you should probably read about it yourself, none of these countries got bombed until the war was well under way (Americans by the Japanese, Britain by the Germans and I don't believe Greece was ever actually bombed, the assault on them was all sea/land based to my knowledge). The officially accepted beginning of WWII is Germany's march into Poland. You could suggest that Japan started it with the invasion of Manchuria but with that logic you can say the start of WWII was WWI, and so on and so on back to the beginning of the first rock thrown at another human being.


How about our living whales. all yr long they decide to come down on big boats n kill them all. Seriously, Japan can get stuffed.

You're right, every single Japanese person is an illegal whaler. Behave. These days there are only perhaps a handful of Japanese whalers who operate in territories that aren't belonging to them, hardly enough to condemn an entire nation.

[Neversoft]

Come to think of it, I think everyone is taking this Japan stuff a little to far. Yeh theres a lot of nice asian ppl around but, Japan started WW2 and bombed America & couple other countrys, they were killing our, Australian whales for over a year which nearly started a war, i honestly think they don't deserve as much attention as they are getting atm, Yeh theres familys n kids n all, sux, but it also sucked when normal ppl from several countrys like USA, UK, AUS n many more got bombed for nothing.

Wow, ignorant much? Japan didn't start World War II, go back to school. Yes, they bombed Pearl Habour and killed 2,000 people, but then what happened? America nuked Japan and killed 200,000 people in an instant and considerably more over the years due to radiation. Now the tsunami death toll in Japan has reached over 12,000, cities, towns and villages have been wiped off the map, people have lost their loved ones and have no where to live, hospitals are refusing treatment and the people of Japan are yet again plagued by radiation... but since they were one of the axis countries during the war I guess none of that matters, huh.

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think the comparisons of the British Empire and other European Empires being compared to the Empire of Japan in terms of advantages/disadvantages are quite absurd given the fact that anyone who has skimmed the surface of history will find that the Empire of Japan was a bloodthirsty and cruel Empire overall, whereas the British and other European Empires had vast advantages which greatly greatly outweighed the rare exhibitions of cruelty.

That said, the comparison between the Empire of Japan and the British Empire are just about as absurd as the idea that the Japanese are somehow now getting 'what they deserve' in payback for World War II. The usual case with war is that the people on the ground are the ones who pay the price, not the people who lead them - Iraq and Afghanistan being recent examples.

[flipflop!!]

Ok maybe they didnt start it, but they still bombed America out of no where aswel as ppl from other countries. + killed most of our living whales. yet people say im ignorant? Try telling that to millions of people who hate Japan for what they did, pretty sure they're the ignorant ones.

[Narnat,]

Tbh right now it comes down to morals rather than crying over war and attention. If human lives are in danger then it is a matter of saving them.. there is no question about it; and I honestly don't think we'd refuse to help cos' of something which happened decades ago :rolleyes:

Nontheless, natural disasters happen to keep the population down, in my eyes. Everything happens for a reason and we can't keep going on with the rising population. Natural disasters will (and arguably must) happen.


Matt is like totally right, Wouldn't you expect people to help you if you were in their situation. It's about everyone putting their differences behind them and coming together.

[flipflop!!]

behind them? This is what frustrates me. Why on earth would we forgive them, it was only last year they were killing our whales, they decide to (out of nowhere) go over & bomb USA. I don't understand how people think i'm ignorant after what they did & all i said is they don't deserve as much attention. Its life, its what they did, it's what happened.

[FlyingJesus]

How many of the Pearl Harbor bombers are alive now? What percentage of Japanese citizens are part of illegal pirate whaling crews?

[flipflop!!]

Alive now? most probably 1 or 2 or none, but that doesn't change the fact how they bombed innocent people...
About the whaling, that has nothing to do with there government, just normal people taking a stroll all yr long killing our whales until we threatened them finally, then they stopped. Been all over the news, not my fault they do what they do.

[Neversoft]

Ok maybe they didnt start it, but they still bombed America out of no where aswel as ppl from other countries. + killed most of our living whales. yet people say im ignorant?

You are ignorant because you seem to think the Japanese are the only ones with war crimes.


Alive now? most probably 1 or 2 or none, but that doesn't change the fact how they bombed innocent people...

Hiroshima and Nagasaki ring any bells? 200,000+ dead thanks to the atomic bombs, the majority of them civillains and people are still suffering from the affects to this day. Two single bombs dropped on Japan killed 100 times more people than the entire bombing of Pearl Harbour, and you know what? They landed off-target. You really are the most ignorant person alive if you say the Japanese deserve what they're going through now because of the war, because they've already suffered through what the American's did tenfold. Revenge, if you like, was delt long ago.

[flipflop!!]

Yeh, the difference is, Japan got payback, but America aka Pearl Harbour, they get bombed by Japan for what? not only that, our of the blue, BANG, they get bombed, there the selfish ones. I'm not ignorant, u call me ignorant, ur calling millions of people ignorant. Ive heard THOUSANDS of ppl look up history on everything thats happened & don't like Japan because of it, so don't you dare tell me i'm the most ignorant person alive!

[Neversoft]

You're the most ignorant person alive.

[FlyingJesus]

Alive now? most probably 1 or 2 or none, but that doesn't change the fact how they bombed innocent people...

It kinda totally does actually because none of THEM did it. Being the same nationality as someone who's done wrong doesn't make you a bad person


About the whaling, that has nothing to do with there government, just normal people taking a stroll all yr long killing our whales until we threatened them finally, then they stopped. Been all over the news, not my fault they do what they do.

Yes like I said, a handful of illegal pirate whalers. Again not something you can condemn an entire country for. Australia has massive drug cartels which commit horrific crimes to keep going (and what they "keep going" with isn't exactly savoury itself) but that doesn't make everyone in the country an irredeemably evil figure

[flipflop!!]

It kinda totally does actually because none of THEM did it. Being the same nationality as someone who's done wrong doesn't make you a bad person

None of them did it? so ur saying Japan didnt do anything?
You dont get my point. Nobody does. Japan bombed Innocent people, normal families, kids, and of course the navy n' all. Thats, my point.

[FlyingJesus]

NONE OF THE PEOPLE IN JAPAN RIGHT NOW BOMBED INNOCENT PEOPLE. How difficult is this to understand? "Japan" is not a concept or entity with actions of its own, it's a place full of people just like any other country, and the actions ordered by a long gone government have nothing to do with any of the people who live there at the moment. The Empire of Japan (the Japanese nation who bombed Pearl Harbor) no longer exists and hasn't for the past 64 years.

[flipflop!!]

oh ohk so uh... ur saying its alright for innocent ppl in USA to get bombed but its not alright for innicont ppl in Japan? hmm... maybe u should go live there then

[FlyingJesus]

That is not what I'm saying at all, do you even know what you're on about? I'm not saying it's ok to bomb anyone, I'm saying that you can't blame the current generation of Japanese people for actions dealt by a handful of their ancestors. I don't know when your family moved to Australia but let's say your great great great grandfather was moved there as one of the many criminal evictees from Britain (just for argument's sake). Should YOU be in prison for something HE did?

[kuzkasate]

flipflop, so basically, your saying the Japanese deserve this? That its karma for what they did? Lets be honest here, no country is perfect, no country at all. Your going on as if Japan bombed America as a whole country, like they all got up, went into their back garden and all bombed America. Lets face it, America hardly has a clean record for war crimes now has it? The people that died in Japan are INNOCENT, so basically, what your saying now is for example, a terrorist attack happened in Germany and your saying 'well nazi's were from germany, so i guess its karma.' Thats not fair at all.

And your also comparing a WHALE, to a human? No offence, but a whale is a whale, whether its on the brink of extinction or not, its an animal, in my opinion ANY human life is more important then that of a whales.

[Stephen]

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[JerseySafety]

Come to think of it, I think everyone is taking this Japan stuff a little to far. Yeh theres a lot of nice asian ppl around but, Japan started WW2 and bombed America & couple other countrys, they were killing our, Australian whales for over a year which nearly started a war, i honestly think they don't deserve as much attention as they are getting atm, Yeh theres familys n kids n all, sux, but it also sucked when normal ppl from several countrys like USA, UK, AUS n many more got bombed for nothing.

I totally agree with this. They are ignorant whalers, they do stuff to other countries, they are independent. Who cares bout em.

[Robbie]

behind them? This is what frustrates me. Why on earth would we forgive them, it was only last year they were killing our whales, they decide to (out of nowhere) go over & bomb USA. I don't understand how people think i'm ignorant after what they did & all i said is they don't deserve as much attention. Its life, its what they did, it's what happened.

I think you know as well as I do that the Australian media seem to have an agenda against Japan on the whaling issue. I'm not denying it isn't/wasn't happening but 7 and ABC love to over-exaggerate the issue, particularly on the current affairs programmes such as Today Tonight; as do all media outlets pretty much accross the world. The whaling issue is irrelevant to the debate anyway but as you keep bringing it up you need to realise that the whole of Japan aren't conspiring against Australia to KILL ALL YER WALEZ, as always it's a minority. Also you live in Adelaide which nobody really cares about anyway! :P

I wrote loads more before thread was closed, cba writing it all again!

[tdi]

flipflop, take a look at this video. Can't believe you're completely oblivious to the scale of what is happening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpuLlIrUYsI

[The Don]

flipflop, take a look at this video. Can't believe you're completely oblivious to the scale of what is happening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpuLlIrUYsI

Nope they deffinetly deserve that because of what their past goverment did over 60 years ago...
(sarcasm incase you can't tell)

But yeh, I think it's right that they aren't accepting people who could cantaminate others because it's just risking more lives, however it would be horrible having to turn away those poor people.

[Sharon]

I totally agree with this. They are ignorant whalers, they do stuff to other countries, they are independent. Who cares bout em.

I care. Anyone with a decent brain should have the smallest sympathy for them. Totally loving how uneducated flipflop is - this whales incident was in the past goverment I have gathered from reading these posts above. Just because Japan's
goverment did all this does NOT mean the country as a whole did. The fact you're saying who cares is absolute **** and you really need a few extra history and geography classes.

Summary of this post: YOU CAN NOT SAY LETS NOT CARE ABOUT JAPAN FOR THIS AS IT WAS
TIME AGO NO COUNTRY IS PERFECT OKAY. GOD

[flipflop!!]

your totally low on how u keep going on & on, this is the part where you're wrong, it had nothing to do with the government, thats why i'm saying it. NORMAL people form Japan, and if we didnt threaten them to stop, they would have kept coming & coming more & more people and kill them all. Also stop saying how it was in the past, it was some time ago, because it was last yr and it dosnt matter when it was, it still happened.

[Catzsy]

your totally low on how u keep going on & on, this is the part where you're wrong, it had nothing to do with the government, thats why i'm saying it. NORMAL people form Japan, and if we didnt threaten them to stop, they would have kept coming & coming more & more people and kill them all. Also stop saying how it was in the past, it was some time ago, because it was last yr and it dosnt matter when it was, it still happened.

It makes a great deal of difference when it happened. Anybody with an ounce of empathy in their body has to sympathetic to the plight of Japan and its peoples. You are entitled to your opinion but as you can see by the reaction very few people agree. You may want to think about that. :)

[Nemo]

your totally low on how u keep going on & on, this is the part where you're wrong, it had nothing to do with the government, thats why i'm saying it. NORMAL people form Japan, and if we didnt threaten them to stop, they would have kept coming & coming more & more people and kill them all. Also stop saying how it was in the past, it was some time ago, because it was last yr and it dosnt matter when it was, it still happened.
So what you're saying is

A few whales > thousands of HUMAN lives, millions, if not billions of damage and possible radiation contamination to the whole country and possibly more.

hot snap.


Doesnt matter whether they are japanese, english, whatever. They faced a natural DISASTER and deserve respect.

[flipflop!!]

No, its the fact that Japan doesn't care about anyone but them selves, so its pretty simply that we don't care about them in return.

[Nemo]

No, its the fact that Japan doesn't care about anyone but them selves, so its pretty simply that we don't care about them in return.
Where are u getting the idea that they dont care about anyone aside from the killing of a few whales when every country has some bad thing that they do anyway?

[flipflop!!]

Because everything they do... just like the dude said on the other page wherever it is, atleast he said it straight out, and its true, they dont care about anyone but themselves. Atleast the people that actually live, in Japan.

[Nemo]

Because everything they do... just like the dude said on the other page wherever it is, atleast he said it straight out, and its true, they dont care about anyone but themselves. Atleast the people that actually live, in Japan.
You havent given me any examples? All of this seems like a baseless generalisation

[Neversoft]

No, its the fact that Japan doesn't care about anyone but them selves, so its pretty simply that we don't care about them in return.

Wow, you really know nothing about the people of Japan. I suggest you read a few books, look at some articles and blogs, view some films, watch some documentaries and do your research. Educate yourself, because everything you've said in this thread has been complete nonsense.

[flipflop!!]

iv'e given exampled all throught this post, thats why everyone hates me for it lol. Because they can't admit Japan are selfish & only think of them selves, they always like to cause trouble. sometimes the gov side, and as i said with the whaling, the "normal" people side.

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Neversoft, obviously i read the damn news, its not like i make all this up for the fun of the dam thing

[Nemo]

iv'e given exampled all throught this post, thats why everyone hates me for it lol. Because they can't admit Japan are selfish & only think of them selves, they always like to cause trouble. sometimes the gov side, and as i said with the whaling, the "normal" people side.

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Neversoft, obviously i read the damn news, its not like i make all this up for the fun of the dam thing
Okay i have read this thread and cannot see them, can you direct them to me aside from killing whales?

[Neversoft]

Neversoft, obviously i read the damn news, its not like i make all this up for the fun of the dam thing

Pretty sure you do make all of this up, because if you had actually kept up with the news you would see how graceful and orderly the Japanese are. If there was a tsunami that ruined a different developed country, there would be mass hysteria, many would be apathetic towards other people and fend only for themselves and people would be looting the hell out of everywhere. It's the exact opposite in Japan, there is no looting, everyone is working together and they're incredibly polite and proper about the whole situation. There was a documentary on Channel 5 last Tuesday called Tsunami: British Search & Rescue, it's free to watch on their website right now. I suggest you watch it and see for yourself the country and completely innocent people you are condemning, who have just gone through hell and back and need as much support as they can get. I can't understand how anyone can be so heartless, uneducated and ignorant.

[flipflop!!]

I'm not gonna bother to reply anymore, you're a waist of time. As if you think i make this up? :S lmfao. What comes from the news, COMES from the news. Hell, i even remember when Queensland had exacly what Japan got, just 1 week earlier. On the last habbo fansite i was with, i remember a couple Japan guys laugh about it. So honestly, i could care LESS, about Japan, i don't give a damn what you or anyone els say, Australia has there rights to not like Japan for what they do, i'm out.

[Nemo]

I'm not gonna bother to reply anymore, you're a waist of time. As if you think i make this up? :S lmfao. What comes from the news, COMES from the news. Hell, i even remember when Queensland had exacly what Japan got, just 1 week earlier. On the last habbo fansite i was with, i remember a couple Japan guys laugh about it. So honestly, i could care LESS, about Japan, i don't give a damn what you or anyone els say, Australia has there rights to not like Japan for what they do, i'm out.
Okay so basically you still have no facts or any base for your accusations of them being like that, and refuse to get any. Your opinion is void.