Windows 8 leak

[Chippiewill]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/04/win8-2011-04-13-600.jpg
I loled at the image...


You had to know it was a matter of time before Windows 8 showed up on these great internets for all to download -- illegitimately. An early version (6.1.7850) has been making the rounds at manufacturers and it's finally escaped the confines of beta labs. We haven't braved the torrent sites ourselves to download this, and we certainly wouldn't recommend that you do, but the screenshots we've seen definitely peg this particular revision as a slight evolution of Windows 7, seemingly not including all the revolutionary tweaks to come. It's still early days, remember. Plenty of time left for the magic to happen.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/13/windows-8-leaked-caught-looking-a-lot-like-windows-7/

[paddy140]

I think there rushing with windows 8 so Microsoft calm down!

[matt$]

Don't like it.

[Triz]

I'd have thought that was Win7

[Chippiewill]

Microsoft won't do graphical changes (If any) for a long while, probably shortly before the public beta. So it probably would look similar. However at this point I suspect it's under the hood performance and feature changes that they'll have done.

[AgnesIO]

I think there rushing with windows 8 so Microsoft calm down!

what do you mean 'rushing it so Microsoft calm down'?

[HotelUser]

I wonder what will be new

[AgnesIO]

I wonder what will be new

The big thing with W8 is the whole use of ARM or whatever - i think/

[Chippiewill]

I wonder what will be new
No doubt 90% business oriented features.


The big thing with W8 is the whole use of ARM or whatever - i think/
I'd expect that to come at a later date.

[AgnesIO]

No doubt 90% business oriented features.


I'd expect that to come at a later date.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/05/microsoft-confirms-arm-support-is-coming-in-windows-will-play-n/


Looks like the rumors were true: Microsoft has just confirmed that the next major revision of Windows, what we'll call Windows 8 for now, will include ARM support. The company also is throwing a little love to all the system on a chip (SoC) makers out there, indicating they'll be getting support out of the box as well. This is the sort of thing we've come to expect from Windows Embedded, but it's something new for the company's flagship product, and is something of a continued sign that the concept of a "personal computer" is only going to keep changing. Full details are in the release after the break, but be warned those details don't include anything even resembling a date. There are, however, about a zillion quotes from companies like ARM, which says...

[Stephen!]

This is only milestone one, so maybe only a few changes from Windows 7.

The most current build is Milestone 3.

[dbgtz]

looks so different, im just peeing myself.

[Chippiewill]

This is only milestone one, so maybe only a few changes from Windows 7.

The most current build is Milestone 3.
Only a few visible changes, most of the changes so far will be under the hood

[Syphon]

I can imagine this being what Vista was to XP.

[xxMATTGxx]

It's still very early days people, don't start calling it the "Next Vista" and the lack of interface changes and all of that stuff.

[AgnesIO]

I can imagine this being what Vista was to XP.

What an absolutely huge change, and the step to the best operating system ever released?

(In my opinion..)

[Syphon]

It's still very early days people, don't start calling it the "Next Vista" and the lack of interface changes and all of that stuff.

If that was aimed at me, I wasn't calling it the "Next Vista", I was just saying I hoped that it wouldnt be a repeat of Vista.


What an absolutely huge change, and the step to the best operating system ever released?

(In my opinion..)

Was thinking more along the lines of a complete fail.

If they skipped that out and went on to windows 7 from XP...

Personally I don't mind Vista so much, just in comparison to XP and 7, it puts it down.

I wouldn't wish for another vista in order for windows to advance in the same way I wouldn't wish for a mass extinction in order for species to evolve :).

[AgnesIO]

If that was aimed at me, I wasn't calling it the "Next Vista", I was just saying I hoped that it wouldnt be a repeat of Vista.



Was thinking more along the lines of a complete fail.

If they skipped that out and went on to windows 7 from XP...

Personally I don't mind Vista so much, just in comparison to XP and 7, it puts it down.

I wouldn't wish for another vista in order for windows to advance in the same way I wouldn't wish for a mass extinction in order for species to evolve :).

Accidental or not, it was still the key step between the two.

[Syphon]

Accidental or not, it was still the key step between the two.

Aye, but it needn't have been if they'd had it tested more, it tarnished the name a bit, when most people think Vista, they would think flawed due to its incompatability with a fair bunch of windows xp programs.

[Mark]

Every second Windows OS is crap, vista was and Windows 8 will be.

[xxMATTGxx]

Accidental or not, it was still the key step between the two.


Aye, but it needn't have been if they'd had it tested more, it tarnished the name a bit, when most people think Vista, they would think flawed due to its incompatability with a fair bunch of windows xp programs.

Windows Vista wasn't that bad really, it had some problems which Microsoft could of indeed spotted before releasing and what not and yes testing more would of been ideal. Even MS themselves have commented on how Vista was some what of a fail (not sure if they exactly said that, but they acknowledged what certain people were saying) It got better with the service packs didn't it?

Now they made Windows 7, an operating system that I believe is a very good OS to use on a daily basis. Now Windows 7 has sold millions and is like the best selling operating system to this date.

Windows 8 will be important for Microsoft to get right because I'm sure they do not want another Vista in that sense and would love another success like Windows 7.

Windows XP > Blah, it's like 10 years old. Time to move on! :P

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Every second Windows OS is crap, vista was and Windows 8 will be.

All I can say to that is, wait and see.

[Stephen!]

I think the problem is with Vista, they did everything pretty much from scratch. If I recall correctly the majority of the old XP code was scrapped. Now they've had time with the new "foundations", I think all OS's from the Vista branch will be excellent.

[Recursion]

Windows Vista was a brilliant operating system, Microsoft needed to release it to lay the foundations for the new base code as Stephen said. It's memory management was far superior to Windows XP for a start. Unfortunatly hardware manufacturers were reluctant to write and test code reliably for the new OS, which is what caused the problems.

Looking forward to Windows 8... so long as it doesn't move everything into the cloud.

[Chippiewill]

Every second Windows OS is crap, vista was and Windows 8 will be.
You're extrapolating a pattern out of one occurrence? That's horrendously dumb.

Are you saying Windows 95 was bad? Windows 2000 was bad?

[N!ck]

You're extrapolating a pattern out of one occurrence? That's horrendously dumb.

Are you saying Windows 95 was bad? Windows 2000 was bad?

People aren't properly up with their history.

He's probably referring to Windows Me which was horrific. Windows 2000 never got much market share as XP was released so soon after and 2000 was essentially XP without the blue taskbar and green start button IIRC.

[AgnesIO]

Every second Windows OS is crap, vista was and Windows 8 will be.

Every other user on HxF is a fool. - a baseless comment that doesn't even make sense. Just like yours.

Did a quick search - not sure if this is correct, but going by "every second Windows OS is crap" you are actually talking about Windows XP/7/9:

----

-- Windows NT (Full 32-bit kernel, not dependenton MS-DOS):


Windows NT 3.1 March 31, 1994
Windows NT 3.5 September 21, 1994
Windows NT 3.51 May 30, 1995
Windows NT 4.0 July 31, 1996
Windows 2000 (Windows NT 5.0), February 17, 2000
Windows XP October 25, 2001
Windows Server 2003 April 24, 2003
Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs July 8, 2006
Windows Vista January 31, 2007
Windows Home Server February 28, 2008
Windows Server 2008 February 28, 2008
Windows 7 October 22, 2009
Windows 8 April 01, 2011

[Chippiewill]

Every other user on HxF is a fool. - a baseless comment that doesn't even make sense. Just like yours.

Did a quick search - not sure if this is correct, but going by "every second Windows OS is crap" you are actually talking about Windows XP/7/9:

----

-- Windows NT (Full 32-bit kernel, not dependenton MS-DOS):


Windows NT 3.1 March 31, 1994
Windows NT 3.5 September 21, 1994
Windows NT 3.51 May 30, 1995
Windows NT 4.0 July 31, 1996
Windows 2000 (Windows NT 5.0), February 17, 2000
Windows XP October 25, 2001
Windows Server 2003 April 24, 2003
Windows Fundamentals for Legacy PCs July 8, 2006
Windows Vista January 31, 2007
Windows Home Server February 28, 2008
Windows Server 2008 February 28, 2008
Windows 7 October 22, 2009
Windows 8 April 01, 2011

You could technically argue that minor version changes don't count in which case NT.2, 4 and Vista would all be every other version, it would also make Windows Vista, Seven and Eight also all the same version (All being version 6.x)


People aren't properly up with their history.

He's probably referring to Windows Me which was horrific. Windows 2000 never got much market share as XP was released so soon after and 2000 was essentially XP without the blue taskbar and green start button IIRC.
ME was before 2000 which would make it on an alternate set as Vista. As you can see, that'd make XP the bad OS or 2000 the bad OS.

ME->2000>XP->Vista

Of course then it's even more confusing because ME and 2000 are from two different sets of Windows, NT and 9x (back when consumer and business where completely separate versions).

[N!ck]

You could technically argue that minor version changes don't count in which case NT.2, 4 and Vista would all be every other version, it would also make Windows Vista, Seven and Eight also all the same version (All being version 6.x)


ME was before 2000 which would make it on an alternate set as Vista. As you can see, that'd make XP the bad OS or 2000 the bad OS.

ME->2000>XP->Vista

Of course then it's even more confusing because ME and 2000 are from two different sets of Windows, NT and 9x (back when consumer and business where completely separate versions).

Yes, I know this. However I think we should stop thinking about the original ludicrous statement. Someone less intelligent will probably end up taking it as true.

[GommeInc]

I'm fascinated by how some people are immediately drawing conclusions :P These presumptions are wild, and immediately claiming "there are no changes" from a picture claiming "it's exactly the same as Windows 7" probably earns you a place in front of a firing squad - such ignorance deems you unfit for life.

It's an OS and has a possible-name-slash-code-name, that's all I've learnt from this.

EDIT: The leak is obviously interesting, though it doesn't really add anything to what has already been confirmed and hinted.

[Chippiewill]

Just read somewhere that there's ribbon on windows explorer now:

Me: Happy as hell (I love the Ribbon interface, sexy as hell)

Also saw this screenshot and instantly realised that they're working on making an interface that works on tablets:
http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/14.png

[GommeInc]

Also saw this screenshot and instantly realised that they're working on making an interface that works on tablets:
Hmm, that reminds me. Isn't W8 rumoured to be an OS that could be used on tablet computers?

[xxMATTGxx]

Yeah there's rumours of them having a metro UI (Windows Phone 7 is a good example of that) for tablets and so on. Who knows! :P

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Hmm, that reminds me. Isn't W8 rumoured to be an OS that could be used on tablet computers?

Windows 8 will be able to run on ARM so yes. (I think)


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Example of Ribbon being used: (Leaks and so on)

http://www.winsupersite.com/content/content/130084/win8_m23_hiddenribbon.jpg;pvce09e330e10bb622

http://www.winrumors.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/windows8ribbon.jpg

[april]

I can imagine this being what Vista was to XP.

If that's true then I'll be avoiding 'Windows 8' like the plague.

[smiffy70]

tbh it looks the same as 7

[xxMATTGxx]

tbh it looks the same as 7

I do wonder if people actually bother reading posts before they actually post. Of course it bloody looks like Windows 7 at this moment in time, it is still early days and all the lovely and fancy interface changes are added at a later stage.

Although I do have a feeling they will keep the look of how Windows 7 in terms of the task bar and so on but add on to it. But Windows 8 will have differences compared to Windows 7.

[Ellz]

is that any different to windows 7?

[Recursion]

is that any different to windows 7?

READ THE GOD DAMN THREAD. IT'S BEEN SAID 3 TIMES AT LEAST. SHEESH.

[Syphon]

God this is the same as windows 7


READ THE GOD DAMN THREAD. IT'S BEEN SAID 3 TIMES AT LEAST. SHEESH.

Aha I joke :)

I'm more curious on the whole compatabilty, just because they base it on windows 7 doesn't mean they wont remove a major part of compatability.

When windows 7 came out, there were tonnes of adverts [and windows 7 was my idea] But there hasn't been so many for windows 8, meaning that it may not have as many user friendly features and will be being less of a home OS :\.

[xxMATTGxx]

God this is the same as windows 7



Aha I joke :)

I'm more curious on the whole compatabilty, just because they base it on windows 7 doesn't mean they wont remove a major part of compatability.

When windows 7 came out, there were tonnes of adverts [and windows 7 was my idea] But there hasn't been so many for windows 8, meaning that it may not have as many user friendly features and will be being less of a home OS :\.

You do realise Windows 8 is not going to be released until like 2013... There will be no adverts of the operating system until the launch of it. Hence why you have not seen any adverts for Windows 8.

[Recursion]

This thread makes me want to cry :'(

[Jack!]

God this is the same as windows 7



Aha I joke :)

I'm more curious on the whole compatabilty, just because they base it on windows 7 doesn't mean they wont remove a major part of compatability.

When windows 7 came out, there were tonnes of adverts [and windows 7 was my idea] But there hasn't been so many for windows 8, meaning that it may not have as many user friendly features and will be being less of a home OS :\.

Thats because windows 8 is no where near finished. Fool.

[N!ck]

The new interface is one of the last things they make.

Vista looked like XP at first and 7 looked like Vista. It's just the way it is. Some people must think the interface is all there is to an operating system :S.

[AgnesIO]

This thread makes me want to cry :'(

You are not the only one who wants to cry.


You do realise Windows 8 is not going to be released until like 2013... There will be no adverts of the operating system until the launch of it. Hence why you have not seen any adverts for Windows 8.

I heard BETA was supposedly happening in early 2012.

[Jack!]

This whole thread just deserves:

http://skepticalteacher.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/godzilla-facepalm.jpg

[GommeInc]

This thread makes me want to cry :'(
Why? It looks like Windows 7 :O There be no differences between it, I swears!

To be fair, to this day I still don't know the difference between OS X Leopard and Snow Leopard :P


This whole thread just deserves:

http://skepticalteacher.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/godzilla-facepalm.jpg




That seems a bit unfair. A picture says a thousand words, and that picture sums up quite a few of the posts :P

[aidant]

whats the difference between win7 and that?

Failed photoshop.

[Johno]

This reminds me of a Futurama quote "I don't want to live on this planet anymore..."

The operating system is not just the user interface! It doesn't matter that it looks like Windows 7 still, the underlying code will be different and features added/removed/changed. The user interface is one of the last things to be done. Why does nobody read the whole thread before posting :(

[Camy]

That seems a bit unfair. A picture says a thousand words, and that picture sums up quite a few of the posts :P

Agreed, annoys me on this forum whenever a picture is posted, it's deemed pointless.


But yeah, on topic: I thought, 7 was a big step up from vista, how much simpler it is, how much more reliable it is etc, so if they can work on all the successes it had and improve them, I'm sure windows 8 will be a big hit for them.

[AgnesIO]

whats the difference between win7 and that?

Failed photoshop.

What??

[Chippiewill]

I believe Windows 8 is scheduled for release in late 2012 which means that in comparison with Windows 7 it's currently right on track.


Failed photoshop.
Well... apart from the fact it can't be photo-shopped because it's a leaked ISO release?

[Markeh]

I think I'll wait until we can see more of the new features (yes that does partially mean new UI, don't shout at me...) and new technologies featured before I pass judgement. Expect my response around late 2012.

[april]

A leaked build of Windows 8 has hit the internet. The beta forum BetaArchive has one of the first records of the release, which was uploaded by an anonymous user (of course).

The file name for the 2.45 GB image is 6.1.7850.0.winmain_win8m1.100922-1508_x86fre_client-enterprise_en-us.iso. But it's a fake.

Slyck read the feedback from torrent sites and found comments saying that this is just Windows 7 renamed to Windows 8: "This is a fake. Info gathered from files : 6.1.7600. 16385(win7_rtm.090713-1255). Since Win 8 is a new kernel, this aint it."

Confirmed fake, fail: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/windows8-leak-beta-download-torrent,12575.html

[Stephen!]

It's not fake. Microsoft have been trying to get the torrents and other downloads removed.

Of course it's still Windows 7. It's the very, very first build after Windows 7 SP1.

[april]

It's not fake. Microsoft have been trying to get the torrents and other downloads removed.

I didn't think it was fake when looking at it at first, now I just don't know what to believe until M$ announce it themselves.

EDIT: After reading this article (http://msftkitchen.com/2010/06/windows-8-plans-leaked-numerous-details-revealed.html) I 100% believe this is real now.

[Chippiewill]

I expect the coders haven't gone round and changed all the 'Win7' occurrences to 'Win8' yet because there's no point until the public is meant to see it (That and it confuses people into saying fake if they see it)

[peteyt]

Ha haven't visited Habbox for a few days and this post made me lol.

I'd rather Microsoft perfected and added whatever old/new features, services etc before working on the design. Yeah I agree that the design is important, and I don't like it when people think programs should look focus completely on features, its good to do both.

However, the design for Windows can easily be sorted once the majority of other stuff has been done. I bet Windows 8 will look similar anyways to windows 7, so that most users will find it easy to use. Windows Vista and 7 had a lot of design similarities I believe - only used the RC of Vista then went back to XP.

I'm on Windows 7 now and it's pretty decent although sometimes some bits can be a little more annoying than in XP - e.g. when a program froze I used to be able to end it a lot quicker in XP, although that might also be down to my computer being a bit old now.