Habbo Should Remove The Credits Tax

[Eric]

Agree with me ? That tax is very annoying. Whats that tax for ?

[Mr-Trainor]

I completely agree, but I doubt it'll be removed any time soon :(.

[Michael]

Same! Maybe when Habbo gets more users it should remove it.

[Vernier]

The tax is there for one reason. So habbos will spend more money on credits. It sucks cos if u want to put something in the marketplace, if it sells then it gos in ur catalog not in ur hand. Stupid idea imo. :)

[Eric]

yeah. Habbo needs more money. But this will only pull down the amount of Habbo players.

[matt$]

Theres no way around it so Habbo will keep it as it brings them in more revenue as people will end up losing more credits therefore having to buy more the only time they'll remove it is the amount of players decreases rapidly but i doubt that'll happen.

[geo]

Eurgh, it's so annoying and tbh it doesn't really make much sense, but I doubt they will remove it because people just deal with these crap changes ;l

[Samantha]

Yeah the tax is annoying but really I don't think they gain as much as they wanted from it as many people just trade credits nowadays. It's only really used incase someone buys something from the marketplace (paying 1c commission) and then exchanging it, meaning 1c commission again.

[Michael]

Yeah the tax is annoying but really I don't think they gain as much as they wanted from it as many people just trade credits nowadays. It's only really used incase someone buys something from the marketplace (paying 1c commission) and then exchanging it, meaning 1c commission again.

Its all a sneaky scam to make you slowly loose credits so you buy more! Lets say I buy 24 creds, after exchanging its not 24 cred anymore! Same as marketplace, 1 cred commission plus 1c for 5/10 marketplace offers.

[scott]

It is very annoying especially for going into like credit shops and stuff I always tend to have a lot of 1cs just so I don't need to lose credits by using the silly exchange!

[Samantha]

Its all a sneaky scam to make you slowly loose credits so you buy more! Lets say I buy 24 creds, after exchanging its not 24 cred anymore! Same as marketplace, 1 cred commission plus 1c for 5/10 marketplace offers.

Ah yeah I forgot about paying for adds, what I did was go on a clone and put loads of furni on that (just incase my main got hacked) I found you got free ads at the beginning so I just used them, then I did have to exchange them but unlike some I don't care if I have silver, gold, sacks or gbs they are just creds to me. Although I like having 1c coins for coin shops I'd rather exchange them than getting change, I know it's losing a cred but I doubt I'll lose sleep on it.

However, I doubt they will remove it, it means your credits run out earlier therefore you want more, where some will sell furni others would buy credits and the younger audiences are getting less for their money and it isn't really fair.

[Pigperson]

I think the answer is very obvious, everyone would agree with it because it's stupid. Tbh it's been going on for months and I don't seem to be effected that much but its annoying when I need credits from my wallet/purse thing.

Will

[Cosmic]

It makes Sulake more money and at the end of the day, I doubt they'll consider removing it for some time - if at all.

[Andy-]

Yes the tax should be removed as when you put stuff in marketplace it decreases in value (profit) and if you buy habbo coins such as 15 you can't exchange it all without already having coins.

[Pillow-Face]

Sorry if this sounds bad, but I feel like Habbo / Sulake used to care about it's users. but now only care about taking their users' money. If they don't start caring more about the users than the money again I can see Habbo shutting or something.

[,Love]

Habbo is becoming stubborn. The ask us to take the polls. & We give them feedback and then things end up changing once again. I guess they'll see it with truth when many and many users begin to quit habbo. It'll eventually shut down ( Habbo. )
& I hate that stupid Tax. Highly Annoying. That's why I don't put furniture into the Mp, anymore. & When you buy Habbo coins Exchange , it's annoying too, Why can't I just buy 1 credit. for 1coin, But no, Has to be buy 1credit for 2coins. Where the hell am I gonna find another 1coin, if I'm already broke gahh.!

[GirlNextDoor15]

Agree with that. Habbo should not have taxes. :( It pisses me off.. the new habbo nw

[Triz]

Well the gaming community do strive to make gaming as realistic as possible :)

[Syphon]

If anything, it will probably only go up, Habbo are very money hungry at the moment...

[..ValOwnsYou..]

It's so annoying ! The other day i was doing a competition for 15 creds, and i went to the marketplace and was left with 12 creds.. :/

[beth]

it's basically to reward those that actually buy credits than trade for them. thus making more money for habbo.

[AgnesIO]

yeah. Habbo needs more money. But this will only pull down the amount of Habbo players.

Clearly the 'tax' hasn't affected them thus far.


Eurgh, it's so annoying and tbh it doesn't really make much sense, but I doubt they will remove it because people just deal with these crap changes ;l

It makes perfect sense.


Its all a sneaky scam to make you slowly loose credits so you buy more! Lets say I buy 24 creds, after exchanging its not 24 cred anymore! Same as marketplace, 1 cred commission plus 1c for 5/10 marketplace offers.

No, it is not a scam.


Sorry if this sounds bad, but I feel like Habbo / Sulake used to care about it's users. but now only care about taking their users' money. If they don't start caring more about the users than the money again I can see Habbo shutting or something.

They are a business. All they have ever cared about is the users' money.


Habbo is becoming stubborn. The ask us to take the polls. & We give them feedback and then things end up changing once again. I guess they'll see it with truth when many and many users begin to quit habbo. It'll eventually shut down ( Habbo. )
& I hate that stupid Tax. Highly Annoying. That's why I don't put furniture into the Mp, anymore. & When you buy Habbo coins Exchange , it's annoying too, Why can't I just buy 1 credit. for 1coin, But no, Has to be buy 1credit for 2coins. Where the hell am I gonna find another 1coin, if I'm already broke gahh.!

I highly doubt it will shut down. The thing is VERY few people left because of the tax, but thousands more people joined.

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The tax makes perfect sense. Users really need to use credits to trade for the majority of the time, especially with the downfall of the HC. People won't stop paying it, so they can easily put the price up.

Look at petrol - people rely on it. The government can keep adding tax to it, and the people can't just boycott it.

[Michael]

Well if it isnt a scam, what is it? Its not exactly a freebie giverway.

[Andy-]

Well if it isnt a scam, what is it? Its not exactly a freebie giverway.

It can't be a scam since they tell you in advance that their is a tax on the marketplace (commission) it's a way for habbo to make more money while controlling furniture values since they control the average.

[Michael]

It can't be a scam since they tell you in advance that their is a tax on the marketplace (commission) it's a way for habbo to make more money while controlling furniture values since they control the average.

Well then its like a way to get you to buy more credits, you see that now they give you 24 creds than 25 creds, so you need 1 more cred for VIP.

You need to pay 1c commision per marketplacement, and 1c for 5(or)10 entrys to put stuff on market.

And to exchange creds you need to pay credit tax. With all these money making ways for Habbo, its obvious they are scamming us in one way, but its like a sneaky scam to make us buy more.

[Andy-]

Well then its like a way to get you to buy more credits, you see that now they give you 24 creds than 25 creds, so you need 1 more cred for VIP.

You need to pay 1c commision per marketplacement, and 1c for 5(or)10 entrys to put stuff on market.

And to exchange creds you need to pay credit tax. With all these money making ways for Habbo, its obvious they are scamming us in one way, but its like a sneaky scam to make us buy more.

Habbo are just being smart they are doing this in order to make us spend more money for them to make more profit in certain areas which says that they are pushing for more of a profit margin since at least 100 Habbo's a day will exchange coins putting that mildly since their are 7,337 currently online.

[GommeInc]

Sounds like a stupid idea whatever this is, but I shouldn't expect anything less from Habbo :P You own the credits, not Habbo - you bought something with your £10, they just own the Habbo Credits name. What Habbo are doing here is just morally wrong, taxing people to sell their goods that they bought. Habbo isn't a Government, and credits are worth zilch so Christ knows why they have a Tax. Hopefully within a few years the dreadful company will just close for good.

[Michael]

Habbo are just being smart they are doing this in order to make us spend more money for them to make more profit in certain areas which says that they are pushing for more of a profit margin since at least 100 Habbo's a day will exchange coins putting that mildly since their are 7,337 currently online.

Its funny how many people are online in Habbo, when Habbo UK alone used to have 11,000, and now were merged its not even any different!

[AgnesIO]

Sounds like a stupid idea whatever this is, but I shouldn't expect anything less from Habbo :P You own the credits, not Habbo - you bought something with your £10, they just own the Habbo Credits name. What Habbo are doing here is just morally wrong, taxing people to sell their goods that they bought. Habbo isn't a Government, and credits are worth zilch so Christ knows why they have a Tax. Hopefully within a few years the dreadful company will just close for good.

It has been around for months. It is perfectly fair - it isn't like they don't tell you of the charges.


Well then its like a way to get you to buy more credits, you see that now they give you 24 creds than 25 creds, so you need 1 more cred for VIP.

You need to pay 1c commision per marketplacement, and 1c for 5(or)10 entrys to put stuff on market.

And to exchange creds you need to pay credit tax. With all these money making ways for Habbo, its obvious they are scamming us in one way, but its like a sneaky scam to make us buy more.


scams, scamming, scammed
(tr) to swindle (someone) by means of a trick

Habbo, nor Sulake, are scamming anyone. If you believe they are, phone the police.

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Its funny how many people are online in Habbo, when Habbo UK alone used to have 11,000, and now were merged its not even any different!

Ah, but the hotels we merged with are in completely different timezone's. I assume I don't have to explain what a timezone is?

I don't know for sure, however I imagine the hotel has more people in it for the majority of the time, than it used to. For example, you used to get about 800 people if you were lucky at 3am GMT - however in America that is about 9PM (I think they are 6 hours behind?) and Australia about 9AM (I think they are about 6 hours ahead?)

[GommeInc]

It has been around for months. It is perfectly fair - it isn't like they don't tell you of the charges.
It seems to make no sense. Why do they need to tax you for using a service which costs them nothing to manage? Seems unfair when you bought the credits to spend on furniture, not a silly feature that doesn't need it to run. It's like if Runescape started taxing people to use banks - but unlike Habbo, Runescape is properly run :/ It seems easier just to trade the old fashion way, but I guess people don't like interacting with others now :/

[AgnesIO]

It seems to make no sense. Why do they need to tax you for using a service which costs them nothing to manage? Seems unfair when you bought the credits to spend on furniture, not a silly feature that doesn't need it to run. It's like if Runescape started taxing people to use banks - but unlike Habbo, Runescape is properly run :/ It seems easier just to trade the old fashion way, but I guess people don't like interacting with others now :/

Because it is a business. If you have the chance to make a little bit extra money, without all your 'customers' leaving, you will do whatever.

[GommeInc]

Because it is a business. If you have the chance to make a little bit extra money, without all your 'customers' leaving, you will do whatever.
Obviously, but the excuse "it's a business" isn't really a good reason :P Last time I checked Habbo was going down the toilet, so they're probably scraping at the sides hoping to rake in some more money.

[AgnesIO]

Obviously, but the excuse "it's a business" isn't really a good reason :P Last time I checked Habbo was going down the toilet, so they're probably scraping at the sides hoping to rake in some more money.
larly it is working.

As I and others have said numerous times, 2010 was the most they have ever made from Habbo.

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Ah, found some of the links.

http://www.sulake.com/blog/entries/2011-01-04_Habbo_virtual_goods_sales_hit_all-time_high_in_December.html
http://www.sulake.com/blog/entries/2011-01-04_Habbo_Hotels_Record_Year_2010_in_numbers.html

The first one says they got $6 million from virtual services on Habbo.. in December alone. Obviously they have their costs too.

[GommeInc]

larly it is working.

As I and others have said numerous times, 2010 was the most they have ever made from Habbo.
One would assume so yes, they had quite a few advertising campaigns going on last year as well as ways for users to spend money with other organisations getting involved like Electronic Arts, Dreamworks (How to Train Your Dragon) and many others. All ways for them to get people to chuck money at them, and it benefits these larger organisations as source of advertisement (go watch this film, go play that game etc etc.) The only reason they're still around is because they rely on other organisations for sponsorship and advertising. Habbo on its own would of died the moment it became rubbish - back when Version numbers meant something :P

[Plebings]

It seems to make no sense. Why do they need to tax you for using a service which costs them nothing to manage? Seems unfair when you bought the credits to spend on furniture, not a silly feature that doesn't need it to run. It's like if Runescape started taxing people to use banks - but unlike Habbo, Runescape is properly run :/ It seems easier just to trade the old fashion way, but I guess people don't like interacting with others now :/

Without the tax, people with lots of furni could easily sell stuff to make a quick credit, with the old scheme credits seemed much more attractive, it was at this point that habbo realised this scheme was losing them money, there was an overpopulation of credits and they wanted to reduce the amount of credits around the hotel so people will buy more using actual money.

Main point: the faster credits are wasted, the more credits people will buy irl

[Michael]

Without the tax, people with lots of furni could easily sell stuff to make a quick credit, with the old scheme credits seemed much more attractive, it was at this point that habbo realised this scheme was losing them money, there was an overpopulation of credits and they wanted to reduce the amount of credits around the hotel so people will buy more using actual money.

Main point: the faster credits are wasted, the more credits people will buy irl

Habbo is like the mother, like no you cant do that.

[Andy-]

What Plebings said made sense when people first joined habbo and earned a few coins say 10 they would invest in trading etc and people will never need to buy more coins but with tax it means more people have to buy coins and once they spend them the whole cycle repeats meaning more people buying coins meaning more money for Sulake.

[Plebings]

Also you can't compare Runescape because in Runescape you earn money, meaning what you did with them wouldn't gain/lose them money

[AgnesIO]

The Exchange was Sulakes biggest ever mistake.

Once made they couldn't remove it, but it was potentially hurting them. So chargin a tax to use the service, which is kind of a privilige in the first place makes sense.

[Michael]

In Runescape, you can pick coins off the floor. Not in Habbo.

[Elegance]

I doubt they ever will. Its their way of making money.

[Moh]

If Sulake actually produced physical products, I would understand. The only expenditure they have are business requirements (offices etc..), their servers (which they will own, not rent) and staff wages.

So with every sale they make, they aren't exactly losing out. So their tax is pathetic. Also they actually call it tax too, which I don't think they're giving to the government to call it tax ^_^

Also, their target audience is also an easy target. If it was adults playing, there's more chances they they would refuse to purchase or send letters to authorities :P

[AgnesIO]

If Sulake actually produced physical products, I would understand. The only expenditure they have are business requirements (offices etc..), their servers (which they will own, not rent) and staff wages.

So with every sale they make, they aren't exactly losing out. So their tax is pathetic. Also they actually call it tax too, which I don't think they're giving to the government to call it tax ^_^

Also, their target audience is also an easy target. If it was adults playing, there's more chances they they would refuse to purchase or send letters to authorities :P

Clearly sending letters to authorities would do nothing.

Sulake would never risk breaking any laws etc.

[Moh]

Clearly sending letters to authorities would do nothing.

Sulake would never risk breaking any laws etc.I mean things like ofcom and trading standards. They sell things for charity (earth hour etc..) and pocket the cash.

[AgnesIO]

I mean things like ofcom and trading standards. They sell things for charity (earth hour etc..) and pocket the cash.

Oh yeah I disagree with that. On the other hand, they don't say anything actually goes to the charity, and if they do they would say how much the charity actually gets.

As I say, they would make sure they are not breaching any trading standards etc etc

[Michael]

I think I remember that Habbo wrote in one of the articles that if you buy the candle all the money goes to Earth Hour?

[AgnesIO]

How much would that be? Would you actually have to buy credits before hand?

I mean I could buy 50 candles, yet not actually buy a single credit - yet they would have to pay 10p for every candle sold (are they 1c)? Or 30p if they are 3c each.

[smiffy70]

agreed coz its so annoying how low they are to try get more money

[AgnesIO]

agreed coz its so annoying how low they are to try get more money

It isn't low.

They made a mistake ever making credit tradable, so they had to try and repair their mistakes.

[Catzsy]

It is annoying I agree. If maybe they kept in on everything but the 1 and 5c it would help new users tremendously as it is 50% tax on 1c.

[AgnesIO]

It is annoying I agree. If maybe they kept in on everything but the 1 and 5c it would help new users tremendously as it is 50% tax on 1c.

Isn't it 100% tax?

Wasn't it 2c for 1c?

[Catzsy]

Isn't it 100% tax?

Wasn't it 2c for 1c?


Oh yes, you are right. That's even worse than I thought and over 20% for 5c.

[AgnesIO]

Oh yes, you are right. That's even worse than I thought and over 20% for 5c.

It is extortionate - I guess they charge it or most people would just redeem loads of 1c's

[Catzsy]

It is extortionate - I guess they charge it or most people would just redeem loads of 1c's

Well I am not sure as the 'richer' members probably needs sacks and gold bars and wouldn't worry about the 1c charge.

[-Danube-]

It's silly.

Buy 50C, say you then want to turn this into 50 1C coins, it's 11C for 10C:

4 x 11C = 40 1C coins (40C with 6C left in purse)

It's 6C for a 5C coin. So from 50C you'd get 45C if you wanted to actually trade with it. So on a 50C transaction there is a tax of 10% if you want to turn it into playable currency.

Then say i go out a buy something with my 45C and it costs exactly 45C. A few weeks later i want to sell it and say the price is still 45C, i go to put it into the MP but i have to sell it for 44C in order for it to go in at 45C, yet again i loose more. So after i've played with my purchase once, 12% of it has gone down the drain back to sulake. And eventually if you kept doing this you'd end up with nothing from it.

But it's all about the $$$