Eurovision 2011

[lTraditional]

I haven't seen a thread on this yet but Eurovision will be on very soon this month, semi-finals on Tuesday 10th May and finals on Saturday 14th May. Blue will be performing for the UK with the song "I Can" and Jedward will be performing for Ireland with the song "Lipstick".

Discuss anything about Eurovision here! ;)

[Red]

omg lmao I love Eurovision! can't wait.
eugh at blue though.

[Rozi]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'M SO EXCITED


Jedward HAVE TO win

[Jordan]

I love Eurovision and I feel we will do better than usual this year :)

[Stephen]

Yeah I think we'll atleast beat ireland this year. I like jedward.. When they aren't singing :|

[Deak]

Im not too bothered about the eurovision... But i do like to see who has won & what the song is & obviously see how many points the UK have got

[lawrawrrr]

I LOVE THE BLUE SONG, HAVEN'T LISTENED TO JEDWARD'S YET but I know they'll do well 'cos they're TOO cute.

I CAN'T WAIT TILL EUROVISION

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[sammy]

SHE'S GOT HER LIPSTICK ON HERE I COME DA DA DUM.

Can't wait for the contest to start, should be very exciting! Blue's song is alright, I don't expect us to do all that well but I could be wrong (A). Looking forward to seeing Lena again, and Jedward obviously.

[dirrty]

in regards to ireland, whoever picked jedward are an embarrassment to society. keep on feeding the trolls

[lTraditional]

in regards to ireland, whoever picked jedward are an embarrassment to society. keep on feeding the trolls

LOL, they will get all the girls voting them though. I always want the young people in because that Norway dude who won a couple years back, only won cause the girls voted him cause they thought he was "hot" and "cute".

[Eoin247]

Oh god. Our entries are getting worse every year. I mean Dustin the turkey was bad but jedward are potentially a step lower.

I miss our 90's entries. :(

[Mark]

Sorry to dampen the moment but we're probably not going to win because of political issues with countries not liking us. It happens every year, and imo labour is to blame (tony blair).

[Sammeth.]

Sorry to dampen the moment but we're probably not going to win because of political issues with countries not liking us. It happens every year, and imo labour is to blame (tony blair).

While we probably won't win, I do predict we will come in the Top 5 this year. Don't forget, whilst political voting used to be quite a big issue it has been reduced since 2009 thanks to the reintroduction of juries, which means that 50% of the vote is televoting, and 50% is made up from the countries jury which is made up of music professionals of all ages and genders and all that crap.

We've entered a group known around Europe and a pretty good song. We have pretty good odds to be up top.

Cannnnn't wait.

[Eoin247]

While we probably won't win, I do predict we will come in the Top 5 this year. Don't forget, whilst political voting used to be quite a big issue it has been reduced since 2009 thanks to the reintroduction of juries, which means that 50% of the vote is televoting, and 50% is made up from the countries jury which is made up of music professionals of all ages and genders and all that crap.

We've entered a group known around Europe and a pretty good song. We have pretty good odds to be up top.

Cannnnn't wait.

I didn't know there used to be judges? I thought it was always televoting before now.

[Sammeth.]

Televoting was introduced properly in the 1998 contest. Before then (i.e. 1956 - 1997) each country had a jury which determined where the points would go. Now we have both, so the jury votes purely on the song itself to try and deter any televoting prejudice. Works well in my opinion, public still get to have an opinion but we don't get overwhelmed by politics.

[PriceTags]

LOL, they will get all the girls voting them though. I always want the young people in because that Norway dude who won a couple years back, only won cause the girls voted him cause they thought he was "hot" and "cute".

I always put Alexander Rybak's victory down to the magic of the song rather than his looks. I'm a fine one to talk, but he's not all that, really.

As for this year, I think there's a really weak bunch of songs, with the only stand-out being France's 'Sognu', which is an opera type song in Corsican. If Blue nail it, I think we could win - also, look at our odds - Bet365, SkyBet, Tote, Betfred, Sportingbet, Paddy Power, Unibet, William Hill and Extrabet all have the UK as the second favourite - out of 43. This could be blamed on the trend that when the UK sends something decent, a disproportionate amount of money is put on it by British gamblers, though.

I'm not imagining Lena will do too well this year - her song's not as instant as 'Sattelite' and is just too 'weird'. But it's good.

[Eoin247]

Televoting was introduced properly in the 1998 contest. Before then (i.e. 1956 - 1997) each country had a jury which determined where the points would go. Now we have both, so the jury votes purely on the song itself to try and deter any televoting prejudice. Works well in my opinion, public still get to have an opinion but we don't get overwhelmed by politics.

Yeah, i believe it is a good idea. Makes it more about the songs and singing again.

I wonder if we crossed a line by having entries that are already well known. Correct me if i'm wrong but up until now hasn't it pretty much always been unknown people representing countries?

[Chris]

Yeah, i believe it is a good idea. Makes it more about the songs and singing again.

I wonder if we crossed a line by having entries that are already well known. Correct me if i'm wrong but up until now hasn't it pretty much always been unknown people representing countries?

Thats what I was thinking, by entering well established artists our chances have definitely improved.

Anyway, I probably wont be watching it cause I lost interest years ago. :L

[Sammeth.]

Yeah, i believe it is a good idea. Makes it more about the songs and singing again.

I wonder if we crossed a line by having entries that are already well known. Correct me if i'm wrong but up until now hasn't it pretty much always been unknown people representing countries?

The UK seem to have a tradition of sending lesser known artists to represent us, bar Cliff Richard, Lulu etc. Other countries don't seem to care, and often send in acts that are well known in Europe, for example Lena who won last year, Abba represented Sweden and Celine Dion has represented Switzerland before. So its a good line to cross I think, especially if it will give us an upper hand :D

[PriceTags]

Sorry to dampen the moment but we're probably not going to win because of political issues with countries not liking us. It happens every year, and imo labour is to blame (tony blair).

In 1997 when we last won, some people credited Tony Blair with the victory ;). I believe too much importance is placed on politics as far as excuses for not doing well are concerned. Ever since we last won, the three British entries which did well (1998 - 2nd, 2002 - 3rd and 2009 -5th) did so because they were good songs which people felt they could vote for. Out of tune girlbands (with Sophie from CBBC and Jenny from Atomic Kitten in them), a grooving granny in a silver trench coat, a 30odd year old man with four school girls, air hostesses with unfunny innuendo, a nervous looking 16 year old in a tracksuit, and no less than three reality TV rejects with mediocre songs (Jessica Garlick doesn't count because hers was quite good and got the result it deserved) do not Eurovision winners make. The less said about Jemini and Josh Dubovie, the better.


Yeah, i believe it is a good idea. Makes it more about the songs and singing again.

I wonder if we crossed a line by having entries that are already well known. Correct me if i'm wrong but up until now hasn't it pretty much always been unknown people representing countries?

I think the international level of success Blue had is overestimated and overplayed by fans and the BBC. They had a large following in Italy and minor success elsewhere, but they've been promoting on various European TV shows and in clubs and massive outdoor show, however, sending an act with international success will help. For example, Dima Bilan who won in 2008 (and came second in 2006) is very well known in the former USSR. People will blame the mass votes for him on the Easten Bloc wanting oil and protection, but it's simply because they know them. Also, remember that Russia sent t.A.T.u in 2003, and they probably got their placing on name alone. In 2008, again, Germany got 12 points from Bulgaria, because one of the members of No Angels is a judge on Bulgarian Idol. In 2009, using Andrew Lloyd-Webber on stage was also probably a factor in getting Jade's placing.

[Conservative,]

We have a good chance, Blue had a pretty big fan base in Europe (not just Italy) and they are actually good unlike our cheesy previous entries. Jedward however... NIL POINTS.

[wiktoria]

Can't wait. last year I was watching eurovision with some1 on skype and I wanted to vote and it was like 20 seconds left and I was too late :(

[Shar]

Wooooo Blue <3
I used to love them and I love their song I hope they do us proud!

Ahahaha Jedward gotta love them

[PriceTags]

We have a good chance, Blue had a pretty big fan base in Europe (not just Italy) and they are actually good unlike our cheesy previous entries. Jedward however... NIL POINTS.

They had minor success elsewhere in Europe - Italy was the only place they had repeated good chart positions and the fact that Italy is where most of their European fans lie is represented by the fact they had fans singing along to 'I Can' loudly and they still remembered the words to their Italian version of 'Breathe Easy'. Many on the Eurovision fansites are saying the BBC and the British people are overestimating their popularity in Europe. Blue's discography (Wikipedia) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_discography).

I'm not saying they're completely unknown, but I don't think their past career will count for all that much, because they're not as relevant as t.A.T.u, for example, were when they entered.

[Stephen]

lol pricetags back for eurovision

[Eoin247]

Thats what I was thinking, by entering well established artists our chances have definitely improved.

Anyway, I probably wont be watching it cause I lost interest years ago. :L


The UK seem to have a tradition of sending lesser known artists to represent us, bar Cliff Richard, Lulu etc. Other countries don't seem to care, and often send in acts that are well known in Europe, for example Lena who won last year, Abba represented Sweden and Celine Dion has represented Switzerland before. So its a good line to cross I think, especially if it will give us an upper hand :D

But Abba and Lena were totally unknown outside of their countries before the Eurovision. I'm not too sure about Celine Dion, but wasn't there a bit of contoversy since she was french canadian?

But if everybody starts entering well known entries then you might just get fans voting for the people rather than the song.


In 1997 when we last won, some people credited Tony Blair with the victory ;). I believe too much importance is placed on politics as far as excuses for not doing well are concerned. Ever since we last won, the three British entries which did well (1998 - 2nd, 2002 - 3rd and 2009 -5th) did so because they were good songs which people felt they could vote for. Out of tune girlbands (with Sophie from CBBC and Jenny from Atomic Kitten in them), a grooving granny in a silver trench coat, a 30odd year old man with four school girls, air hostesses with unfunny innuendo, a nervous looking 16 year old in a tracksuit, and no less than three reality TV rejects with mediocre songs (Jessica Garlick doesn't count because hers was quite good and got the result it deserved) do not Eurovision winners make. The less said about Jemini and Josh Dubovie, the better.



I think the international level of success Blue had is overestimated and overplayed by fans and the BBC. They had a large following in Italy and minor success elsewhere, but they've been promoting on various European TV shows and in clubs and massive outdoor show, however, sending an act with international success will help. For example, Dima Bilan who won in 2008 (and came second in 2006) is very well known in the former USSR. People will blame the mass votes for him on the Easten Bloc wanting oil and protection, but it's simply because they know them. Also, remember that Russia sent t.A.T.u in 2003, and they probably got their placing on name alone. In 2008, again, Germany got 12 points from Bulgaria, because one of the members of No Angels is a judge on Bulgarian Idol. In 2009, using Andrew Lloyd-Webber on stage was also probably a factor in getting Jade's placing.


We have a good chance, Blue had a pretty big fan base in Europe (not just Italy) and they are actually good unlike our cheesy previous entries. Jedward however... NIL POINTS.

I agree lol. I'm starting to think they were entered to prevent us winning. I wonder what the final choreography is going to be like because my god they are going to need something magical.

I saw a documentary on this last night actualy. And when we won it 4 times in 5 years, back in the 90s we were getting into huge problems as we couldn't afford to host it anymore . This was before the boom years.

I forgot that there used to be a rival to eurvision (intervision) in the eastern european block before the fall of the USSR.

[lTraditional]

According to Blue on Loose Women (yeh I have to put up with watching that!) they said that this company did a poll about Eurovision and who was going to win and stuff and according to that poll, Blue were estimated to become second.