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AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 10:31 AM
Hey x

I thought this might be favoured by those who post in spam a lot, but I may be wrong!

Would it be possible to have a 'post count' in Spam, but it shows up as a 'Spam Post Count' rather than Post Count'? It could only show up in Spam - a bit like Runescape names only show up in the runescape section.

Just wondering..

Chris
31-05-2011, 10:37 AM
Not a bad idea, would be interesting to see how many posts people have actually made in spam. ^_^ +Rep

Mathew
31-05-2011, 10:40 AM
This is actually a really good idea (I didn't know Runescape name only showed up in the Runescape section, haha! :P). I've always thought the Spam section should get some form of recognition for contribution there because there is actually decent discussion in there most of the time. As I mentioned in a thread a few weeks ago; I'd much rather discuss how someones day is going in Spam as opposed to talking to a brick wall and notifying people of the current song I'm listening to... :rolleyes:.

Triz
31-05-2011, 11:02 AM
I'm quite liking this idea too! +rep

wixard
31-05-2011, 11:06 AM
they've mentioned somewhere before why they're too lazy to... i mean why they can't/don't wanna do this

but yeh it'd be cool

HotelUser
31-05-2011, 11:25 AM
The math for doing this would be extremely weird, I'm not at all sure this is possible because the plugin to do it would need to look into posting posts, threads, merging them, moving them, deleting (though nobody's supposed to do that). When I get home from class today I'll look into seeing if it's possible, though. I think this is a great idea and Scott does as well!

cocaine
31-05-2011, 11:27 AM
would make your regular post count completely pointless, just do an advanced search in the spam forum, simple. i don't want pointless things cluttering up my profile when im posting.

Kyle
31-05-2011, 11:28 AM
Runescape names don't show up in the runescape section, do they? They don't for me! Perhaps that could be implemented too :p

Martin
31-05-2011, 11:28 AM
I love this idea, and if it's possible then I think it should be done. Spam is one of the most popular areas of the forum, home of many forum members etc.

I think as long as it's seperate from main post count, it will be a great addition for those who want to know how much of their life they have spent in spam! :P

Rozi
31-05-2011, 11:33 AM
I know I'd have something like 8k posts if spam counted but I'd love to see the real number so I like this idea yes please woo

buttons
31-05-2011, 11:39 AM
I know I'd have something like 8k posts if spam counted but I'd love to see the real number so I like this idea yes please woo
it'll be way more than that considering I got over 1,000 posts in one week when we used to do board reader lol n that was mostly from spam...
I want to see this

Stephen
31-05-2011, 11:52 AM
yh that would be pretty cool i want it or if it's impossible to do for everyone can you atleast tell me mine

and jen that boardreader carried on from the prev month too alot so it's probs around 400-500 a week

Alex3213
31-05-2011, 11:53 AM
Sounds like a lovely suggestion and although I never go in spam, I think this would be a great idea.

Sharon
31-05-2011, 12:40 PM
I want this please! Would be good to see.

Chippiewill
31-05-2011, 12:48 PM
As long as no one is stupid enough to base rep power off it instead of normal post count...
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I like this idea a lot, I'm genuinely curious how many posts I have in spam.

Aidenn
31-05-2011, 12:53 PM
Runescape names don't show up in the runescape section, do they? They don't for me! Perhaps that could be implemented too :p

Thats what i was thinking.

Im in favour of this, despite i think FlyingJesus would probably have the highest spam post count :P

Chippiewill
31-05-2011, 12:57 PM
Runescape names don't show up in the runescape section, do they? They don't for me! Perhaps that could be implemented too :p
I think it's meant to, it was probably broken on the vb4 transition.

Richie
31-05-2011, 01:04 PM
Not trying to piss on your parade but I don't like it, although I'd have thousands of more posts it will just turn into another popularity contest and spam really would turn into ****** spam.

buttons
31-05-2011, 01:11 PM
Not trying to piss on your parade but I don't like it, although I'd have thousands of more posts it will just turn into another popularity contest and spam really would turn into ****** spam.
I dont think it will considering there are no prizes for having the most overall and the people who will have the highest have done it without ever being able to see how much they've had before... if that makes sense

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 01:12 PM
Thats what i was thinking.

Im in favour of this, despite i think FlyingJesus would probably have the highest spam post count :P


Not trying to piss on your parade but I don't like it, although I'd have thousands of more posts it will just turn into another popularity contest and spam really would turn into ****** spam.

Personally I disagree. Post count is used all the time for every other part of the forum, and it never turns in to a popularity contest really - just my opinion, which is obviously going to be biased towards the idea.

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Glad the majority like the idea, hopefully it would be possible. Obviously it isn't essential or anything, but as I think it was Alex said, there is some genuinely good discussion, the post count wouldn't need to be taken really seriously (in fact, I would be against that happening), and I wouldn't want any new rules coming in changing spam as it is now.

Ed.
31-05-2011, 01:14 PM
You could somehow remove your normal post count while in the spam forum and replace it with a spam post coount meaning that it wouldn't take up any extra room?

Richie
31-05-2011, 01:19 PM
I dont think it will considering there are no prizes for having the most overall and the people who will have the highest have done it without ever being able to see how much they've had before... if that makes sense

Na I get what ya mean but new people will come spam actually spamming


Personally I disagree. Post count is used all the time for every other part of the forum, and it never turns in to a popularity contest really - just my opinion, which is obviously going to be biased towards the idea.


That's a load of me flute, allot of people post around the forum just to get their post count up, not so much the older members but allot of the newer ones do and some have even admitted it to me on msn..

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 01:22 PM
Na I get what ya mean but new people will come spam actually spamming



That's a load of me flute, allot of people post around the forum just to get their post count up, not so much the older members but allot of the newer ones do and some have even admitted it to me on msn..

Post count will not turn in to a popularity contest.

I will use a prime example, one user who wanted to get a huge post count blah blah blah, planned to get 20k posts in about 18 months soon became disliked. It isn't the amount of posts which makes people unpopular/popular. It is the style of their posts.

FlyingJesus
31-05-2011, 01:26 PM
Im in favour of this, despite i think FlyingJesus would probably have the highest spam post count :P

lol nah doubt it I have the best posts but probably not the most in spam, even with 5.5k from KKK. You underestimate the combined count of people like Richie who reply to everything and anything :P

As long as it doesn't actually affect anything other than that number then sure I'm all for it only because spam is itself a community (so obv "forum games posts" doesn't need to be added as that's just punching your keyboard for fun) but as soon as anything more gets attributed to it I'll oppose it to the end


Post count will not turn in to a popularity contest.

I will use a prime example, one user who wanted to get a huge post count blah blah blah, planned to get 20k posts in about 18 months soon became disliked. It isn't the amount of posts which makes people unpopular/popular. It is the style of their posts.

Stories of people like Kyle will forever haunt HxF haha

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 01:29 PM
lol nah doubt it I have the best posts but probably not the most in spam, even with 5.5k from KKK. You underestimate the combined count of people like Richie who reply to everything and anything :P

As long as it doesn't actually affect anything other than that number then sure I'm all for it only because spam is itself a community (so obv "forum games posts" doesn't need to be added as that's just punching your keyboard for fun) but as soon as anything more gets attributed to it I'll oppose it to the end


I totally agree with this. Forum Games should not be included as Spam does at least get some discussions - albeit sarcastic ones a lot, forum games is totally different imo. Also, it should literally be for the spam 'community' - nothing more, nothing less. I would be against anything other than that.

Sammeth.
31-05-2011, 01:34 PM
I hope it wouldn't encourage people to linger even more in spam and not around the rest of the forum. That would be my only concern.

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 01:36 PM
I hope it wouldn't encourage people to linger even more in spam and not around the rest of the forum. That would be my only concern.

It shouldn't do really, although I can see your concern.

After all, if someone wanted to be recognised for being a high poster wouldn't you post more in the forums where you get recognised for your posts, than in spam where you can't win awards for it or have your post count seen across the rest of the forum. Just a thought, although as I say, I can see where you are coming from.

Stephen
31-05-2011, 01:37 PM
I agree, I don't think post count would turn it into a popularity thing. Just look at me, I haven't even got 4k posts and I'm treated like a goddess lalalalala

Richie
31-05-2011, 01:37 PM
Post count will not turn in to a popularity contest.

I will use a prime example, one user who wanted to get a huge post count blah blah blah, planned to get 20k posts in about 18 months soon became disliked. It isn't the amount of posts which makes people unpopular/popular. It is the style of their posts.

I'm talking about people who currently have tones of posts will be arse licked by new members. Either way it'll be ****e 'cause spam really will be spam. I don't really give a **** though I'm just giving my opinion, it's going to turn into spam central, literally.

Things that are bleeding ****e about this forum is people make threads asking for silly things that are totally unnecessary to be implemented when everything is perfectly fine how it is.

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 01:39 PM
I agree, I don't think post count would turn it into a popularity thing. Just look at me, I haven't even got 4k posts and I'm treated like a goddess lalalalala

Tbf I am scared to -rep you in case of the horror of it being returned. Only joking.

But that is true. Stephen doesn't have a high post count, and although I won't go as far as saying he is treated like a goddess, he isn't rejected and not as popular as someone else may be just because of his pathetic 3.8k posts

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I'm talking about people who currently have tones of posts will be arse licked by new members. Either way it'll be ****e 'cause spam really will be spam. I don't really give a **** though I'm just giving my opinion, it's going to turn into spam central, literally.

Things that are bleeding ****e about this forum is people make threads asking for silly things that are totally unnecessary to be implemented when everything is perfectly fine how it is.

Someone needs to take a chill. I am dreadfully sorry for suggesting things which I think would be a nice addition. Please forgive me :rolleyes:

Sharon
31-05-2011, 01:40 PM
I agree, I don't think post count would turn it into a popularity thing. Just look at me, I haven't even got 4k posts and I'm treated like a goddess lalalalala

Goddess - female ;)

I don't see how it could be a popularity contest?

buttons
31-05-2011, 01:41 PM
I'm talking about people who currently have tones of posts will be arse licked by new members. Either way it'll be ****e 'cause spam really will be spam. I don't really give a **** though I'm just giving my opinion, it's going to turn into spam central, literally.

Things that are bleeding ****e about this forum is people make threads asking for silly things that are totally unnecessary to be implemented when everything is perfectly fine how it is.
pot kettle black

Stephen
31-05-2011, 01:42 PM
richie is jealous of our hopefully soon to be MASSIVE SPAM WILLIES

jen why is your name black

dirrty
31-05-2011, 01:42 PM
i think it's a good idea, but idk something doesn't seem right about it. i can see people comparing their posts for a while, but after that, i doubt anyone would really care about who has the highest post count in spam or whatever.

Richie
31-05-2011, 01:43 PM
Someone needs to take a chill. I am dreadfully sorry for suggesting things which I think would be a nice addition. Please forgive me :rolleyes:

Apology accepted.


pot kettle black
I make useful suggestions like being able to look back at really old rep

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Oh and this has been mentioned loads of times I wonder why it hasn't been implemented :rolleyes:

Eoin247
31-05-2011, 01:49 PM
would make your regular post count completely pointless, just do an advanced search in the spam forum, simple. i don't want pointless things cluttering up my profile when im posting.

I personally don't think there's much point to it and so I agree with this post. It will just take away from the normal post count and discourage non spam threads.

FlyingJesus
31-05-2011, 01:50 PM
This has never been said before that I can recall - asking for posts to count up in spam is not the same as a completely different tracker and in terms of "oh that's quite fun I guess" value this is just like being able to see older reps

Richie
31-05-2011, 01:53 PM
This has never been said before that I can recall - asking for posts to count up in spam is not the same as a completely different tracker and in terms of "oh that's quite fun I guess" value this is just like being able to see older reps

The difference is my suggestion doesn't create lick arses and yeah it has.

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 01:56 PM
The difference is my suggestion doesn't create lick arses and yeah it has.

With all due respect, I really don't give a damn about suggestions you may have made which have been implemented, and some which haven't been implemented. This thread is not about that, so would you please stop bringing up the 'heroics of the Irish person called Richie'.

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In reply to FJ, it is of course not there to be anything serious etc - and yeah, I think it could be a little bit of fun for the spam community.

Richie
31-05-2011, 01:57 PM
I personally love these two posts, although these where about raising your original post it still relates.


It's called spam for a reason, mindless stuff you don't gain anything from usually :P It's just pointless information which doesn't differ the way people see you in the more "formal" forums e.g. Habbo News, Discuss Anything, Technology etc.


no way lol. i like to post in spam because i can post as many times as i want and my post count won't increase & i wanna keep it that way!! that would have to be the same for sub-forums for eg KKK and some people have 1000 odd posts in there and i dunno rly. i like it how it is :(

scott
31-05-2011, 01:57 PM
The difference is my suggestion doesn't create lick arses and yeah it has.

I don't understand how you think being able to see a spam post count will lead to people being "lick arses". I can't see it like that when it shows peoples normal post counts and I don't think it will change. Personally I think it would be quite a good addition to the forum and clearly other people do too, David is going to look into see if it is possible!

Richie
31-05-2011, 01:59 PM
With all due respect, I really don't give a damn about suggestions you may have made which have been implemented, and some which haven't been implemented. This thread is not about that, so would you please stop bringing up the 'heroics of the Irish person called Richie'.

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In reply to FJ, it is of course not there to be anything serious etc - and yeah, I think it could be a little bit of fun for the spam community.

It clearly is if you're making a thread in feedback almost every day trying to change something :S

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I don't understand how you think being able to see a spam post count will lead to people being "lick arses". I can't see it like that when it shows peoples normal post counts and I don't think it will change. Personally I think it would be quite a good addition to the forum and clearly other people do too, David is going to look into see if it is possible!

Look at people like FJ, gnome and neversoft everyone wipes their arses for them to be fair. They're sound but get treated like goddesses.

FlyingJesus
31-05-2011, 02:03 PM
Richie you're suggesting that this would promote sycophancy as people will be like "ooh big post count" and love up to those people, right? Try actually looking at the conversations on the forum some time. People don't do that even with the normal post counts (brb counting all my really close hxf friends..) so why would it ever occur with a spam count? This theory of yours is also flawed in that if someone has an abnormally high amount of posts in spam, they're already going to be the well-known ones in the community anyway so the number will make no difference to newcomers. Making useless conjecture with absolutely no base is not of any value in feedback


Look at people like FJ, gnome and neversoft everyone wipes their arses for them to be fair. They're sound but get treated like goddesses.

lmao since when was this?! (and lol gnome)

I'm respected because I'm amazing and everything I say is right and logical, not because there's a big number next to my name. I've had the reputation long before the post count and I can certainly say the same goes for Chirs and Ryan. That said, I don't notice anyone giving me a rim for anything other than being hilarious

Sharon
31-05-2011, 02:03 PM
Yeah but that's because they're respected for having such a big postcount/rep/join date, I can't see this causing more lick arse. Even if it does, that's not our problem - it's theirs!

scott
31-05-2011, 02:04 PM
It clearly is if you're making a thread in feedback almost every day trying to change something :S

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Look at people like FJ, gnome and neversoft everyone wipes their arses for them to be fair. They're sound but get treated like goddesses.

I'd say it's more because they have been around a lot longer and got to know a lot more people I wouldn't say it was arse licking more the fact that more people know them because they have been around the longest.

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 02:04 PM
It clearly is if you're making a thread in feedback almost every day trying to change something :S

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Look at people like FJ, gnome and neversoft everyone wipes their arses for them to be fair. They're sound but get treated like goddesses.

Firstly, considering I think you have made more threads in feedback this month trying to CHANGE something than I have, I would suggest you go back to your little corner now. Secondly, FJ doesn't have a huge post count? I think it might have SOMETHING to do with the '40' on his rep power xxx Also, as sct said they have been here for a long time. So obviously they will be known by more and if people like them, they will be friendly towards them.

Richie
31-05-2011, 02:10 PM
Richie you're suggesting that this would promote sycophancy as people will be like "ooh big post count" and love up to those people, right? Try actually looking at the conversations on the forum some time. People don't do that even with the normal post counts (brb counting all my really close hxf friends..) so why would it ever occur with a spam count? This theory of yours is also flawed in that if someone has an abnormally high amount of posts in spam, they're already going to be the well-known ones in the community anyway so the number will make no difference to newcomers. Making useless conjecture with absolutely no base is not of any value in feedback



lmao since when was this?! (and lol gnome)

I'm respected because I'm amazing and everything I say is right and logical, not because there's a big number next to my name. I've had the reputation long before the post count and I can certainly say the same goes for Chirs and Ryan. That said, I don't notice anyone giving me a rim for anything other than being hilarious

I don't give a ****e if it's implemented or not, I'm just saying I personally think it's going to be crap. Just wait until it's implemented and watch your flute hit ya in the face.



Firstly, considering I think you have made more threads in feedback this month trying to CHANGE something than I have, I would suggest you go back to your little corner now. Secondly, FJ doesn't have a huge post count? I think it might have SOMETHING to do with the '40' on his rep power xxx Also, as sct said they have been here for a long time. So obviously they will be known by more and if people like them, they will be friendly towards them.

*REMOVED*

Edited by sct (Assistant Forum Manager): Please do not be rude to other forum members.

dirrty
31-05-2011, 02:10 PM
Look at people like FJ, gnome and neversoft everyone wipes their arses for them to be fair. They're sound but get treated like goddesses.
lol i don't think i've ever seen people do that. people like those three because of what they contribute to the forum, not because of their post count or whatever :S

FlyingJesus
31-05-2011, 02:13 PM
I don't even have a flute what is this

buttons
31-05-2011, 02:14 PM
I personally love these two posts, although these where about raising your original post it still relates.
i wrote that because I don't want spam posts to be added on to my own post count... I thought this was about having a spam post count in ADDITION to your post count without spam?

ykno like post count: 8000
spam post count: separate figure

oh ok so you do get what I meant, they do relate but they're totally different to this :s

oops

Richie
31-05-2011, 02:16 PM
It's all kicking off yeowwwwwwwww hahaaa


will yas all go n have a ****e and relax yourselfs yeah? I'm saying I don't like the idea, it doesn't mean you don't have to lol

dirrty
31-05-2011, 02:18 PM
It's all kicking off yeowwwwwwwww hahaaa


will yas all go n have a ****e and relax yourselfs yeah? I'm saying I don't like the idea, it doesn't mean you don't have to lol
it seems like everyone in this thread is pretty relaxed, but you're the one who seems quite defensive for some reason lol.

Stephen
31-05-2011, 02:18 PM
richie be trollin

Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!

Sharon
31-05-2011, 02:21 PM
Richie how can you tell us to calm down when you seem to be the one having a fit towards Marketing?! There's such thing as discussion however some of your posts are just over the top.

Mathew
31-05-2011, 02:21 PM
Despite FJ's amazingly high reputation and post count, I wish he'd start putting a full stop at the end of sentences.. I notice it in EVERY post omg.. :(!!

but ye don't really care about this either way I think you're all being petty lol.

Kyle
31-05-2011, 02:22 PM
Makes no difference to me either way but I guess it's a nice thing to be implemented for the spam community.

Richie, this post count will be for spam only and will most likely only display in the spam section so I don't really see how it's going to create the kind of bootlicking you're describing because new members will rarely ever post in the spam section anyway and even if they do they won't continue to use it over the rest of the forum simply because there's much more that they'll be able to discuss over the other sections.

Richie
31-05-2011, 02:22 PM
Richie how can you tell us to calm down when you seem to be the one having a fit towards Marketing?! There's such thing as discussion however some of your posts are just over the top.

I know they're lethal, cheers.

I'm giving my opinion if you don't like it you can go.. oh wait I'm getting deja vu

FlyingJesus
31-05-2011, 02:25 PM
Despite FJ's amazingly high reputation and post count, I wish he'd start putting a full stop at the end of sentences.. I notice it in EVERY post omg.. :(!!

Never do for the last sentence haha dunno why it's just like k there's the end you can go now then again I don't even split up sentences half the time anyway because I just type like I talk so you can get these long monologues spanning several different topics with no division but this is kinda off topic now I think we've all worked out by now that Richie's pretending to be Allan and near enough everyone else would be interested to see this feature the end

DOT.


I'm giving my opinion if you don't like it you can go.. oh wait I'm getting deja vu

It's not an opinion if you present it as facts that are actually incorrect

Richie
31-05-2011, 02:27 PM
Never do for the last sentence haha dunno why it's just like k there's the end you can go now then again I don't even split up sentences half the time anyway because I just type like I talk so you can get these long monologues spanning several different topics with no division but this is kinda off topic now I think we've all worked out by now that Richie's pretending to be Allan and near enough everyone else would be interested to see this feature the end

DOT.



It's not an opinion if you present it as facts that are actually incorrect

I wouldn't call it facts I'd call it predications but whatever tickles your pickle

Eoin247
31-05-2011, 02:29 PM
I really don't see the benefits of this. I certainly don't think it should be displayed with peoples posts anyway.

FlyingJesus
31-05-2011, 02:46 PM
I wouldn't call it facts I'd call it predications but whatever tickles your pickle

Predication is the expression of fact lol

Richie
31-05-2011, 02:51 PM
Predication is the expression of fact lol

I don't have any evidence that it will happen therefore it's a predication :S

FlyingJesus
31-05-2011, 02:55 PM
I believe you're thinking of prediction which is a completely different thing and focuses on outcome. I was talking about how you're basing these predictions (not predications) on false facts such as your idea that brown-nosing is a problem in spam at the moment and is entirely to do with post count

Richie
31-05-2011, 02:58 PM
I believe you're thinking of prediction which is a completely different thing and focuses on outcome. I was talking about how you're basing these predictions (not predications) on false facts such as your idea that brown-nosing is a problem in spam at the moment and is entirely to do with post count

My bad, typo :(

As for the brown nosing we won't know until it happens so it's still a PREDICTION lol

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 03:09 PM
I really don't see the benefits of this. I certainly don't think it should be displayed with peoples posts anyway.

May I ask why you wouldn't want it to be with peoples posts in the spam forum? Just wondering.

Inseriousity.
31-05-2011, 03:12 PM
Good idea. I wouldn't really be fussed either way because I'm not that active in spam. I don't think it'd cause any arse licking that wasn't already there imo. :)

Aidenn
31-05-2011, 03:13 PM
Maybe this should be Moved to the debates forum.... Immo

Personally i see no harm if users don't want to see it i can generally guess there will be an option within user cp where it can be disabled..

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 03:16 PM
Maybe this should be Moved to the debates forum.... Immo

Personally i see no harm if users don't want to see it i can generally guess there will be an option within user cp where it can be disabled..

Yeah, but even then, people who don't want to see it don't have to look at it. I know when I look at someones post I don't automatically see their post count - if I want to know I will look. If I don't want to, I won't..


Good idea. I wouldn't really be fussed either way because I'm not that active in spam. I don't think it'd cause any arse licking that wasn't already there imo. :)

I love that end bit!

Richie
31-05-2011, 04:03 PM
Right fair enough I shouldn't of insulted marketing I just got heated :P my opinion still stands though. I got pissy because I post my opinion and people try prove me wrong, an opinion is an opinion it doesn't always have to end with a battle. I don't agree with it but I'll apologise like a real man.

Eoin247
31-05-2011, 04:09 PM
May I ask why you wouldn't want it to be with peoples posts in the spam forum? Just wondering.

It would discourage proper threads whilst encouraging a lot of pointless threads in my opinion. I know that there is quite a bit of good discussion that often happens in spam. However along with that there is also an absolute ton of pointless threads and posting.

Aidenn
31-05-2011, 04:12 PM
It would discourage proper threads whilst encouraging a lot of pointless threads in my opinion. I know that there is quite a bit of good discussion that often happens in spam. However along with that there is also an absolute ton of pointless threads and posting.

I wouldnt say they are all pointless threads, i see what you mean regarding encouraging, but spam is really just a place for general chit-chat and from what i can see thats all its used for.

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 04:18 PM
It would discourage proper threads whilst encouraging a lot of pointless threads in my opinion. I know that there is quite a bit of good discussion that often happens in spam. However along with that there is also an absolute ton of pointless threads and posting.

I don't think it would encourage it. Ignoring the Discuss Anything forum (which as virtually everyone knows, I said should have no post count a long time ago, due to the pointless threads - which did calm down once certain users had been permanently banned (;)), the majority of the forum has good posts almost all the time - despite people being able to get post count :)


Right fair enough I shouldn't of insulted marketing I just got heated :P my opinion still stands though. I got pissy because I post my opinion and people try prove me wrong, an opinion is an opinion it doesn't always have to end with a battle. I don't agree with it but I'll apologise like a real man.

I appreciate your apology, and would like to make it clear I wasn't trying to 'prove you wrong' - I was trying to say why it was a good idea (which tends to happen in Feedback!)

Eoin247
31-05-2011, 04:26 PM
I wouldnt say they are all pointless threads, i see what you mean regarding encouraging, but spam is really just a place for general chit-chat and from what i can see thats all its used for.

I know ;) . That's why i said :
"I know that there is quite a bit of good discussion that often happens in spam.". in my last post :)



I don't think it would encourage it. Ignoring the Discuss Anything forum (which as virtually everyone knows, I said should have no post count a long time ago, due to the pointless threads - which did calm down once certain users had been permanently banned (;)), the majority of the forum has good posts almost all the time - despite people being able to get post count :)



Yes, but i think that people would make pointless threads in spam to get this new count up as they would be able to get away with it ;) . Unless there's going to be a stricter way of moderating the spam section to prevent this. Also i think that spam posting would raise whilst reducing normal forum posting. That's just my opinion though, i don't really know how it might actualy pan out.

AgnesIO
31-05-2011, 04:36 PM
Yes, but i think that people would make pointless threads in spam to get this new count up as they would be able to get away with it ;) . Unless there's going to be a stricter way of moderating the spam section to prevent this. Also i think that spam posting would raise whilst reducing normal forum posting. That's just my opinion though, i don't really know how it might actualy pan out.

in reply to stricter stuff.. nonononononono

The post count is only a bit of fun, and would be more for the users who post in spam regularly already. I doubt those of us (saying us, I know I am not a big spam poster, but I do post a relative amount of stuff in there) would care if a new member occasionally posts to tell us they like HxHD, as I still think a new member would prefer to get a post count around the forum where they can get an award for posting a certain amount of times in their first month, have a shot at winning VIP for member of the money etc, rather than get a post count in Spam which is aimed at the longer standing users anyway.

Again though, like yours that is how I see it (and mean it to be), this would especially be the case if previous posts (which I hope they are) are included in this new post count. As that means new users to spam would have no reason to 'spam' spam as the whole 'haha I have a higher post count than someone from 2005 has' wouldn't be applicable.

Then again, it could turn out like this - but from the views of the people who use spam the most (the majority of people, obviously some may disagree but this is the case with everything), it seems like a popular idea. We shall, hopefully, see :)

Kyle
31-05-2011, 04:50 PM
I think that if a group of members have already established themselves as the top spam posters then new users will find it far too difficult to catch up and so most of the time won't bother posting obscene amounts of spammy threads. If the spam section was new and nobody had posted in it before then I would understand some of your concerns but, well... it isn't.

MizzBex
31-05-2011, 05:03 PM
i think it's a good idea x

Stephen
31-05-2011, 05:12 PM
I think that if a group of members have already established themselves as the top spam posters then new users will find it far too difficult to catch up and so most of the time won't bother posting obscene amounts of spammy threads. If the spam section was new and nobody had posted in it before then I would understand some of your concerns but, well... it isn't.

yeah I agree.

Plus all the people who will have 15k+ posts in spam have earned it over the years without spamming the **** out of the forum. Anyone new who decided to do it wouldn't exactly be wowed at or even liked, just classed as a pointless spammer

The Don
31-05-2011, 07:08 PM
I'm talking about people who currently have tones of posts will be arse licked by new members. Either way it'll be ****e 'cause spam really will be spam. I don't really give a **** though I'm just giving my opinion, it's going to turn into spam central, literally.

Things that are bleeding ****e about this forum is people make threads asking for silly things that are totally unnecessary to be implemented when everything is perfectly fine how it is.

Like you asking for the N word to be allowed.

Richie
31-05-2011, 07:21 PM
Like you asking for the N word to be allowed.

I didn't post that in feedback :P I posted it in spam and to be allowed in videos that don't mean the word in an offensive way.

nvrspk4
01-06-2011, 10:24 AM
I disagree. There was a reason spam was created without a post count, while creating a separate post count certainly doesn't affect the normal post count and thus avoids the issue of content-less posts raising your main post count, I still think the same principle holds. Management decided not to count up spam posts for a reason, even if it is done by a separate count I think many of the original reasons still stand.

Just for fun maybe they could be posted once a year or something, though I feel like the methods of counting uncounted posts would be very weird (and would they be able to specify to just one forum, or would it include all uncounted post, including those in the unacceptable posts forums, staff forums, and the archives?)


yeah I agree.

Plus all the people who will have 15k+ posts in spam have earned it over the years without spamming the **** out of the forum. Anyone new who decided to do it wouldn't exactly be wowed at or even liked, just classed as a pointless spammer

So creating spam post counts will reinforce the eliteness of the spam forum? I know that's not what you meant but I think that's what might happen.

Catzsy
01-06-2011, 11:06 AM
I disagree. There was a reason spam was created without a post count, while creating a separate post count certainly doesn't affect the normal post count and thus avoids the issue of content-less posts raising your main post count, I still think the same principle holds. Management decided not to count up spam posts for a reason, even if it is done by a separate count I think many of the original reasons still stand.

Just for fun maybe they could be posted once a year or something, though I feel like the methods of counting uncounted posts would be very weird (and would they be able to specify to just one forum, or would it include all uncounted post, including those in the unacceptable posts forums, staff forums, and the archives?)



So creating spam post counts will reinforce the eliteness of the spam forum? I know that's not what you meant but I think that's what might happen.

While it is quite an interesting idea I agree with Nvr here. It does give something extra to Spam users that other members would not have. Most members who post in spam actually just like posting there and have done for years - they don't need an extra 'badge' to show this. Also it would be hard to refuse the members that regularly post in other forums ie Tech, Runescape, sports etc. If it was allowed for the spam members then I could not see
any good reason that others shouldn't have their individual forum post counts too. Far too complicated I feel would really have to be thought out very carefully before to cater for any consequences that could arise. :)

Nick
01-06-2011, 11:06 AM
Ya this is a really good idea because there are alot of spam members and they may not have many actual forum posts but maybe alot of spam posts

scott
01-06-2011, 11:17 AM
While it is quite an interesting idea I agree with Nvr here. It does give something extra to Spam users that other members would not have. Most members who post in spam actually just like posting there and have done for years - they don't need an extra 'badge' to show this. Also it would be hard to refuse the members that regularly post in other forums ie Tech, Runescape, sports etc. If it was allowed for the spam members then I could not see
any good reason that others shouldn't have their individual forum post counts too. Far too complicated I feel would really have to be thought out very carefully before to cater for any consequences that could arise. :)

I do understand where you are coming from with your comment but posts within forum that you gain post count from get a big of recognition the fact that their post count increases. Whereas in the spam forum your post count doesn't increase so I think it would be interesting and a good idea to be able to see that!

AgnesIO
01-06-2011, 11:23 AM
While it is quite an interesting idea I agree with Nvr here. It does give something extra to Spam users that other members would not have. Most members who post in spam actually just like posting there and have done for years - they don't need an extra 'badge' to show this. Also it would be hard to refuse the members that regularly post in other forums ie Tech, Runescape, sports etc. If it was allowed for the spam members then I could not see
any good reason that others shouldn't have their individual forum post counts too. Far too complicated I feel would really have to be thought out very carefully before to cater for any consequences that could arise. :)

They wouldn't get their own post count as they already have one - whether that is single or not. If they want to debate that though, then how about letting spam having the normal post count? I totally disagree with that too - and I am sure those who argue for other forums wouldn't want that either.

I don't see the harm in at least trying it, although if it did become elitist (which I don't think it would), then obviously it would be better off gone.

Catzsy
01-06-2011, 11:24 AM
I do understand where you are coming from with your comment but posts within forum that you gain post count from get a big of recognition the fact that their post count increases. Whereas in the spam forum your post count doesn't increase so I think it would be interesting and a good idea to be able to see that!

I can see that but I do think it could lead to requests from regulars from other forum to individualise their post count of their favourite forum and I can't think of a valid reason, apart from 'no post count' that it shouldn't be granted. A bit if a hornet's nest. I am not averse to it but needs to be really thought about.

wixard
01-06-2011, 11:25 AM
to be honest i don't care if it shows when you post or not but I'm just curious as to what my spam post count is

Stephen
01-06-2011, 11:40 AM
yeah I think people are more curious to seeing how many spam posts they have than actually having a separate post count tbh

AgnesIO
01-06-2011, 11:47 AM
yeah I think people are more curious to seeing how many spam posts they have than actually having a separate post count tbh

This is true, but can you do this easily without having the post count - and if you have the post count, you may as well keep it there.

buttons
01-06-2011, 12:02 PM
yeah i'm the same i only want to see how much i currently have, maybe once a year or something like nvr suggested

Stephen
01-06-2011, 12:05 PM
half a year! A year is too long

wixard
01-06-2011, 12:06 PM
half a year! A year is too long

yes i agree with this
lets implement this
thanks

AgnesIO
01-06-2011, 12:16 PM
yeah i'm the same i only want to see how much i currently have, maybe once a year or something like nvr suggested


half a year! A year is too long

This would be fine - although I am wondering if it would be any easier to do than the original idea - if it isn't easier it may as well be done all the time - obviously if it is easier do to every six months, why not :)

Eoin247
01-06-2011, 02:17 PM
Would this take in other no count forums, like forum games?

AgnesIO
01-06-2011, 02:29 PM
Would this take in other no count forums, like forum games?

No, as they are pointless and generate no discussion + they don't really have a community feel.

Eoin247
01-06-2011, 04:34 PM
No, as they are pointless and generate no discussion + they don't really have a community feel.

Not all forum games are pointless, some are quite interesting and require a bit of thinking. That said i'd feel that the jokes forum should have post count.

Stephen
01-06-2011, 04:37 PM
Yes they are pointless. Spam is like discuss anything but with less rules and a whole little community of members

AgnesIO
01-06-2011, 04:39 PM
Not all forum games are pointless, some are quite interesting and require a bit of thinking. That said i'd feel that the jokes forum should have post count.

They are all pointless - they might be a bit of fun, but still ridiculously pointless.

Also there isn't a jokes forum.

Conservative,
01-06-2011, 04:40 PM
Great idea. I want it :)

Eoin247
01-06-2011, 05:13 PM
They are all pointless - they might be a bit of fun, but still ridiculously pointless.

Also there isn't a jokes forum.

Hmm, didn't notice that that forum was removed. Well it was there until recently lol

GommeInc
01-06-2011, 11:03 PM
Look at people like FJ, gnome and neversoft everyone wipes their arses for them to be fair. They're sound but get treated like goddesses.
I assume Gnome is me judging by FryingJebus' post :P My arse isn't licked from what I can tell, and why anyone would lick our arses is a bit odd seeing as we lack power :/

nvrspk4
02-06-2011, 10:31 PM
I assume Gnome is me judging by FryingJebus' post :P My arse isn't licked from what I can tell, and why anyone would lick our arses is a bit odd seeing as we lack power :/

Well when we realized you hadn't learned how to wipe your own yet and you were leaving skidmarks all over the place, something had to be done!

Recursion
03-06-2011, 01:28 PM
Good idea at the OP, I cba to read 11 pages of this thread so that is all.


Well when we realized you hadn't learned how to wipe your own yet and you were leaving skidmarks all over the place, something had to be done!

Off topic, but I love you. LOL

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