Habbox Casino?

[-Danube-]

Hey,

Well in a discussion in the Habbo in General forum it was brought up again about a 'Habbox Casino', i know this idea gets thrown around alot and Sierk did have one right at the start of Habbox that was quite popular.

I just wanted to see what people thought about this idea. Basically i don't play Habbo like i used to back in the day, so i have quite a bit of furni i could put into making a really nice (green) casino and leaving it there forever really.

I'd run it like any casino on Habbo, anyone can buy Room Rights or D.E at a price obviously (credits from this would go to Habbox). People betting in the room would do it at their own risk and any scammers would be removed from the room.

I just wanted to see some feedback from people on this idea, would it be worth me trying to do something like this? Or would it be a waste of time? How could we ensure Habbox users use the room and thus attract other people from Habbo to Habbox and the casino.

Thanks
~Dan

[myke]

It's a good idea, I remember the old one... but monitoring of naughty Habbos would have to be pretty good otherwise it could earn Habbox a bad reputation!!! :p

[Kasabian]

Yeah, I remember sitting in sierk's old one.

Good idea in theory - but would need monitoring closely, like Myke said.

[-Danube-]

I'm sure, if we got it popular enough, it would naturally get monitored well.

I mean, you'd be surprised how many PMs we get from users whilst in HxHD about Staff or other Members. I think our members are pretty good at moderating things for us alot of the time. I think with a casino, they would be even better, because if they were scammed by someone in the room, they would probably immediately send me a PM and i'd sort the scammer out that way.

I'd have to make it clear that Habbox is not responsible for any loss of furni in the room, and they only bet what they can afford.

I just want to make sure i won't waste my time doing this. Like you said Tom, it's a great idea in theory, i just need to backing of Habbox members to help me keep it mildly popular.

[sophiethenerd]

Be tricky to mod. And it would need to be modded well so as to not give habbox a bad reputation for scamming and such. Someone might scam, get away with it, and end up scamming lots of people under habbox's name. But, if it is pulled off well it could be awesome.

[lawrawrrr]

I think it's a good idea... might bring a different set of members to Habbox again! The scammer issure might be a problem though - especially with more popular casinos, the threat gets higher. Maybe you could set up a group of trusted Habbox members/staff who are like official room 'mods' as well as the dealers to take the pressure off of you to sort out the scammers!

[Calvin]

Whatever you say such as Habbox is not responsible etc. you'll still get members that are new to Habbo or the whole casino scene accusing Habbox of scamming.

You're probably better off making a casino yourself and promoting it on the forums to save Habbox getting any crap for it. And about the reporting issue, if a bunch of people report a user that is innocent and you remove the persons rights then you'll have them blaming Habbox or yourself (which will lead onto Habbox too).

Also, what advantages would there be out of an official Habbox casino? There wouldn't be that much people using Habbox values because they would much rather use an official product by Sulake that they can trust.

[Yupt]

Im sure theres plenty of people at habbox who bet and would be willing to help out. Its a good idea and I hope it gets put forward for further consideration.

[Inseriousity.]

I've always been a fan of the idea. As long as Habbox set up a 'terms and conditions' thread somewhere regarding evidence of scammers and responsibility, I don't really see it as much of a problem. Could earn some money for Habbox in terms of the casino itself and the kind of Habbo it brings in (to advertise things like the lottery etc). :)

[Conservative,]

It's worth a try imo. It will be monitored because there will nearly always be members & staff in there.

Can I just say though - any staff caught scamming in there should be immediately fired? Because it's a breach of trust. But yeah I like the idea.

[kuzkasate]

It's a good idea, but anyone could just buy rights and then advertise it like 'Come to the Official Habbox Casino' and then people will bet, thinking they are betting Habbox Staff or something, therefore presuming its safe which would mean they could be betting large amounts and if they get scammed, everyone will point the finger at Habbox and it will get a bad reputation.

[Mr-Trainor]

An official Habbox casino is something which was turned down in the past because of the risk of scammers giving Habbox a bad reputation. However, other than that I don't think it's a bad idea at all. As mentioned already, it could be worth a try.

[AgnesIO]

I think it would give Hx a bad rep personally - the chances of someone scammer are very high imo

[j0rd]

I vaguely remember Sierk's casino. I think its a great idea, I have always supported this idea and hope it can be created!

[-Danube-]

Whatever you say such as Habbox is not responsible etc. you'll still get members that are new to Habbo or the whole casino scene accusing Habbox of scamming.

You're probably better off making a casino yourself and promoting it on the forums to save Habbox getting any crap for it. And about the reporting issue, if a bunch of people report a user that is innocent and you remove the persons rights then you'll have them blaming Habbox or yourself (which will lead onto Habbox too).

Also, what advantages would there be out of an official Habbox casino? There wouldn't be that much people using Habbox values because they would much rather use an official product by Sulake that they can trust.


I think it would give Hx a bad rep personally - the chances of someone scammer are very high imo


Be tricky to mod. And it would need to be modded well so as to not give habbox a bad reputation for scamming and such. Someone might scam, get away with it, and end up scamming lots of people under habbox's name. But, if it is pulled off well it could be awesome.


I really don't think it would be that tricky to mod, other casino's get by so easy. I mean when ever anyone gets scammed in a room, that person is going to report it to the room owner, it's what always happens in casinos.

Aslong as you don't sell rights off too cheap, you shouldn't attract the lowlife scammers.

And @ Calvin, the advantage is just exactly what Laura said. It'd bring a different type of member to Habbox. Yes it won't revive rare values, nothing will to an extend they were 2 years ago, but thats beyond our control, don't get me started on the Marketplace again. But really this idea is nothing to do with Rare Values or any department, it just for Habbox and to help get us a different class of members. Yes Casino owners and dealers are known for trading, so if we brought them to Habbox Forum it could boost the trading forum and the anything about furni section. I know people like Ouft, Dez, Intern and Believemesafety who are/were casino owners came to habbox and normally stay in the trading sections.


I've always been a fan of the idea. As long as Habbox set up a 'terms and conditions' thread somewhere regarding evidence of scammers and responsibility, I don't really see it as much of a problem. Could earn some money for Habbox in terms of the casino itself and the kind of Habbo it brings in (to advertise things like the lottery etc). :)

I really like that idea of terms and conditions Mike, i'll definately do something like that and i'll make sure to have it on a wired message as they enter the room.


It's worth a try imo. It will be monitored because there will nearly always be members & staff in there.

Can I just say though - any staff caught scamming in there should be immediately fired? Because it's a breach of trust. But yeah I like the idea.

If any staff member was caught scamming in the room i would remove them immediately (aslong as i have sufficient proof and witness). Same with members or Habbox, if i found that a member of habbox had gone on a scamming spree in the room, i would try my hardest to have them banned for Habbox.

[Alex3213]

I'm not going to comment on whether or not I like the idea because I honestly don't mind either way (having said that I don't think MAD's was extremely popular) but in regards to your comment about "other casinos getting by so easily" Dan, the difference is that that can only damage the dealer's reputation. However, as you'd be representing Habbox, if someone scammed it'd influence Habbox's reputation despite any Ts&Cs because unfortunately that's how life is. There'll always be people who don't understand the Ts&Cs, or really, read them, and therefore pass messages onto their friends that Habbox scams and it could severely damage how much people trust Habbox.

[AgnesIO]

I really don't think it would be that tricky to mod, other casino's get by so easy. I mean when ever anyone gets scammed in a room, that person is going to report it to the room owner, it's what always happens in casinos.

Aslong as you don't sell rights off too cheap, you shouldn't attract the lowlife scammers.



I really like that idea of terms and conditions Mike, i'll definately do something like that and i'll make sure to have it on a wired message as they enter the room.



If any staff member was caught scamming in the room i would remove them immediately (aslong as i have sufficient proof and witness). Same with members or Habbox, if i found that a member of habbox had gone on a scamming spree in the room, i would try my hardest to have them banned for Habbox.

I went to a casino and bet 20c. Rights were 3gb - and got scammed. Shock the scammer is still there as I didn't RECORD it.

You could have Casino Moderators or something

[-Danube-]

I went to a casino and bet 20c. Rights were 3gb - and got scammed. Shock the scammer is still there as I didn't RECORD it.

You could have Casino Moderators or something

There is no doubt, we'll come across scammers from time to time, people are aware of that when they enter casinos too.

And i like the idea of Casino Moderators, i'm sure to begin with i could get a team of staff to help me out with this (this will help with popularity of the room too). Then when the casino gets established i can get more Moderators from Habbox Members and regular users of the rooms.

Obviously the main issue here is going to be scammers.

[Alex3213]

There is no doubt, we'll come across scammers from time to time, people are aware of that when they enter casinos too.

And i like the idea of Casino Moderators, i'm sure to begin with i could get a team of staff to help me out with this (this will help with popularity of the room too). Then when the casino gets established i can get more Moderators from Habbox Members and regular users of the rooms.

Obviously the main issue here is going to be scammers.

I think to start with you should have maybe a couple of moderators, perhaps some community managers or senior staff just to get it rolling. Then the people who are staff and are making an effort to keep it popular perhaps could become moderators too providing they've been here a fair amount of time and don't resign on and off for no reason, this'll help build it up.

[AgnesIO]

There is no doubt, we'll come across scammers from time to time, people are aware of that when they enter casinos too.

And i like the idea of Casino Moderators, i'm sure to begin with i could get a team of staff to help me out with this (this will help with popularity of the room too). Then when the casino gets established i can get more Moderators from Habbox Members and regular users of the rooms.

Obviously the main issue here is going to be scammers.

Just to point out, I wouldn't say there are many members of Habbox staff that should, a) be trusted with rights etc, and b) actually know how a casino works.

Sorry if that insults anyone, but I wouldn't put staff above the members. Moderators should simply be people who have had DE rights and been seen to pay big bets.

[Gina]

I like it t;) but i agree with robbie :P

[-Danube-]

I'll probably work it how Alex said, get senior staff and community managers to 'moderate' the room at first. But like you said Dom, they will really only have DE rights.

[lawrawrrr]

(quote wont work but @Dom) Moderating could be different to dealing though - moderators could have a more forum and pm based job, rather than actually dealing with the bets themselves, and be a go-between for the members and Dan. I like Alex's idea of using trusted senior members of staff, then filtering it down with popularity.

[Calvin]

If you wish to ruin Habbox's reputation then go ahead.

And why would somebody be banned on Habbox for scamming on Habbo @Dan? :rolleyes:

[Ajthedragon]

I don't see why it would be difficult to moderate?

How many scammers would actually get access to the casino? And more to the point, Habbox has loads of staff I'm sure could be trusted to help moderate it.

Make it as good as Sierks. :'(

[AgnesIO]

I don't see why it would be difficult to moderate?

How many scammers would actually get access to the casino? And more to the point, Habbox has loads of staff I'm sure could be trusted to help moderate it.

Make it as good as Sierks. :'(

Are you aware of how many people you can actually bet without getting scammed now? :rolleyes:

[Richie]

It's a good idea but at the same time bad, if the room is owned by habbox management the chances are if people get scammed they'd say "habbox scammed me" it would do more bad for the site than good.

[-Danube-]

If you wish to ruin Habbox's reputation then go ahead.

And why would somebody be banned on Habbox for scamming on Habbo @Dan? :rolleyes:

If a member of Habbox scammed lots of people with the Habbox Casino and i had proof of this, i'd try my hardest to get them removed from Habbox. I don't want people like that around Habbox and i doubt anyone else does.

[Ajthedragon]

Are you aware of how many people you can actually bet without getting scammed now? :rolleyes:

Yes because I'm sure Habbox would let complete randomers who were untrusted be allowed in the booths. :rolleyes:

If you were going to do it I wouldn't allow rights or entrance rights to be sold, just let the trusted few have them.

[Mathew]

You're probably better off making a casino yourself and promoting it on the forums to save Habbox getting any crap for it. And about the reporting issue, if a bunch of people report a user that is innocent and you remove the persons rights then you'll have them blaming Habbox or yourself (which will lead onto Habbox too).
I agree with this. You'd be much better calling it your casino and shoving Habbox.com in the room description, that way you get the blame for scamming not Habbox. As Dom has said, it's incredibly easy for scammers to gain access to casinos; why should it matter how much the rights cost for them?... they can get all they want through scamming. :P

I doubt it's a matter of "omfg Habbox scammed me" - it's just more of the stigma which will be attached to the site. If you got scammed in a casino endorsed by Habbox, then you're obviously gonna see Habbox in negative light due to a bad experience.


Also, what advantages would there be out of an official Habbox casino? There wouldn't be that much people using Habbox values because they would much rather use an official product by Sulake that they can trust.
loooool.


I really like that idea of terms and conditions Mike, i'll definately do something like that and i'll make sure to have it on a wired message as they enter the room.
I'm sure everyone is going to take a look at some good old "Terms & Conditions" about how to behave in a room on a teen chatroom... :P


Same with members or Habbox, if i found that a member of habbox had gone on a scamming spree in the room, i would try my hardest to have them banned for Habbox.

And why would somebody be banned on Habbox for scamming on Habbo @Dan? :rolleyes:
lol, agreed with Calvin here. Habbo and Habbox are two completely different sites and you can't go banning random members just because they've scammed on Habbo.... :P Staff fair enough, but I don't think its your or anyones right to shove power in the faces of people who just want to play Habbo...


If a member of Habbox scammed lots of people with the Habbox Casino and i had proof of this, i'd try my hardest to get them removed from Habbox. I don't want people like that around Habbox and i doubt anyone else does.
If they make decent posts on Habbox Forum and they're polite when around people, then I honestly wouldn't care. You'd run into too many ambiguous situations.

Overall, I think it's a good idea in theory but I think you'd be better making your own and putting Habbox somewhere in the description. Although then again Dan... I paid 25c for rights in your casino about a year ago and it closed a few days later, so I don't have high hopes at all. Still waiting for a refund.

[Richie]

lol, agreed with Calvin here. Habbo and Habbox are two completely different sites and you can't go banning random members just because they've scammed on Habbo.... :P Staff fair enough, but I don't think its your or anyones right to shove power in the faces of people who just want to play Habbo...

As much as I'd like that to be true, it isn't. Habbox have banned users from habboxforum for acting an arse in the desk. Habbox management get their hands tangled with situations that don't involve them. For example when I made / hosted certain websites in the past management practically blackmailed me, remove it or an IP ban from the website was in the horizon. That's like me punching the guy next door in the face who works for google and google ip banning me.

[Mathew]

As much as I'd like that to be true, it isn't. Habbox have banned users from habboxforum for acting an arse in the desk. Habbox management get their hands tangled with situations that don't involve them. For example when I made / hosted certain websites in the past management practically blackmailed me, remove it or an IP ban from the website was in the horizon. That's like me punching the guy next door in the face who works for google and google ip banning me.
Yeah I remember you telling me about that before.. it's just stupid. If the damage isn't done on Habbox Forum there people should just keep themselves to themselves. I think a problem is that many staff just don't realise members have a life away from the site and they are actually entitled to do things which don't concern Habbox.. :P

[AgnesIO]

As much as I'd like that to be true, it isn't. Habbox have banned users from habboxforum for acting an arse in the desk. Habbox management get their hands tangled with situations that don't involve them. For example when I made / hosted certain websites in the past management practically blackmailed me, remove it or an IP ban from the website was in the horizon. That's like me punching the guy next door in the face who works for google and google ip banning me.

That is a good example, although there is a counter to that.

If I go and run on a football pitch at a football league ground and punch one of the players, I will be banned from the club I support and also the chances are all the other football league grounds in England.

Also, as a referee, if I put something on facebook or twitter about a game I referee and someone complains to the FA about it, I get suspended - despite the fact I said it on facebook and not at the game or where I am actually representing the FA.

[Richie]

Yeah I remember you telling me about that before.. it's just stupid. If the damage isn't done on Habbox Forum there people should just keep themselves to themselves. I think a problem is that many staff just don't realise members have a life away from the site and they are actually entitled to do things which don't concern Habbox.. :P

Agreed, perhaps with new management soon things will hopefully change. Habbox management need to remember, they manage habbox. They don't manage the internet :P.

[Phil]

I quite like this idea. Yeah people might be scammed but maybe only give staff members rights so if they scam they're going to get fired.

P.S. Would this not be something Martin would be looking into if anyone? Y'know, being Community AGM and all that jazz?

[Richie]

That is a good example, although there is a counter to that.

If I go and run on a football pitch at a football league ground and punch one of the players, I will be banned from the club I support and also the chances are all the other football league grounds in England.

Also, as a referee, if I put something on facebook or twitter about a game I referee and someone complains to the FA about it, I get suspended - despite the fact I said it on facebook and not at the game or where I am actually representing the FA.

I can see where you're coming from but my post and your post are two completely different scenarios. Referees need to follow terms and conditions regarding their job role and those players that you punched, that event happened within the clubs grounds.


My point is - Referees know what not to do, they have terms and conditions. It doesn't say in the habbox rules we can not create a website. (Once it's not infringing habboxs copyright of course)

The football players that you punched you hit them within the clubs grounds (habbox) so they should be fired (banned). If you got into a brawl with those two players in a bar, you can't lose your job unless you are once again breaking terms and conditions with your club.

[David]

What about a forum post requirement for dealers, would maybe cut down scammers? who would go through that to steal some furni/credits.

I like the whole cino idea.

[Nick]

it wouldbe awesome be all the scamming and stuff.. But then most people would hang out there not in the HxHD :P

[coolfish30]

Good idea, dealers entrance could go towards habbox comps!

[Lamz]

I do think its a good idea but i think it should only be run by HxStaff because anyone can scam & it will give habbox a bad name due to it being the Habbox casino...

you can give it a go though

[AgnesIO]

I do think its a good idea but i think it should only be run by HxStaff because anyone can scam & it will give habbox a bad name due to it being the Habbox casino...

you can give it a go though

It wouldn't shock me, and I know for a fact some do, that some staff would scam.

Remember, Hx Staff are volunteers not professionals

[Calvin]

I do think its a good idea but i think it should only be run by HxStaff because anyone can scam & it will give habbox a bad name due to it being the Habbox casino...

you can give it a go thoughYes, and giving Habbox an even worse name if it is only staff..

[Lamz]

It wouldn't shock me, and I know for a fact some do, that some staff would scam.

Remember, Hx Staff are volunteers not professionals

true... its a sticky situation. but if it was staff they lose their habbox job too? cos that still dis obayng the fansite & habbo way

[AgnesIO]

true... its a sticky situation. but if it was staff they lose their habbox job too? cos that still dis obayng the fansite & habbo way

If someone wants to scam a throne, I doubt they will care they lost their volunteering job.

[Lamz]

i doubt ppl will bet a T to some1 they don't know... those bets would go to Dan Matt Martin or David surely?

[AgnesIO]

i doubt ppl will bet a T to some1 they don't know... those bets would go to Dan Matt Martin or David surely?

Not gonna lie I would only bet Dan and possibly Matt out of those four.

[Lamz]

oh & jin (who is viewing this) :P Hi Jin :D

see that's all it is... use common sense & bet people you know/trust thats whay most betters do

[AgnesIO]

oh & jin (who is viewing this) :P Hi Jin :D

see that's all it is... use common sense & bet people you know/trust thats whay most betters do

But many betters (like you did) will think "Official Fansite Staff.. OBVIOUSLY SAFE"

And bet away.

[Lamz]

hmm thats true. Damn why you so smart? :L

idk I agree with it but disagree

[Martin]

I'm sort of half and half on this one. Last month I was considering opening a smallish casino, nothing big scale but just something for a bit of fun and to try and attract some different people to Habbox. The only people that would be getting rights would be general management and at a push certain department managers.

Something like this would be extremely hard to moderate, and especially the way you mention selling rights to other people and allowing other people to deal could be very risky. Even people who appear to be 100% safe on Habbo could scam, and it just isn't worth it when it could seriously damage peoples perception of Habbox. We have enough trouble ensuring HxHD is presenting a good picture of our site and making visitors feel we are the place to be. - One bad incident in a casino and it can put a lot of people off forever. I simply do not want to take that risk.

Whilst in practice something like this would be a nice idea, I think overall casinos on Habbo have died down abit compared to what they were previously. I think something like this might die out after a while, and I'm not sure it would last too long. We've tried it with things like trade city's etc in the past and they just haven't worked due to the practicalities of it. It's getting people there, getting people to trust, and ensuring the nature of behaviour and discussion within an official Habbox room is in-keeping with our reputation.

As much as I love all the staff here, there are some I barely know, and this would be the case for many, just because they are Habbox staff it doesn't mean we can trust everyone 100%.

For the hardcore gamblers out there, we do have the Habbox Lottery (http://www.habbox.com/lottery)running each month, and we hope to get this more successful in the upcoming months.


I think if we were to have a casino, (and I am still not 100% sure)- then there certainly wouldnt be rights being sold to anyone (I have enough trouble keeping up with rights in the helpdesk as it is), and it would be a low key thing for a bit of fun and to try attract a new kind of visitors. I don't mind us having a casino room set up and on the official list, but the dealers would be very restricted (probably with just Dan dealing, since I am poor and am not really into casinos and stuff anyway).

I may even do some kind of free casino at one point (like the free grabbers we have previously done) where we can get some games going for free with some prizes on offer.

Yes, I want there to be fun, exciting things on offer for the community- but things like this really need to be thought about clearly and looked at from all angles before just plunging into things- they can offen cause more hassle than good I think.

[AgnesIO]

I'm sort of half and half on this one. Last month I was considering opening a smallish casino, nothing big scale but just something for a bit of fun and to try and attract some different people to Habbox. The only people that would be getting rights would be general management and at a push certain department managers.

Something like this would be extremely hard to moderate, and especially the way you mention selling rights to other people and allowing other people to deal could be very risky. Even people who appear to be 100% safe on Habbo could scam, and it just isn't worth it when it could seriously damage peoples perception of Habbox. We have enough trouble ensuring HxHD is presenting a good picture of our site and making visitors feel we are the place to be. - One bad incident in a casino and it can put a lot of people off forever. I simply do not want to take that risk.

Whilst in practice something like this would be a nice idea, I think overall casinos on Habbo have died down abit compared to what they were previously. I think something like this might die out after a while, and I'm not sure it would last too long. We've tried it with things like trade city's etc in the past and they just haven't worked due to the practicalities of it. It's getting people there, getting people to trust, and ensuring the nature of behaviour and discussion within an official Habbox room is in-keeping with our reputation.

As much as I love all the staff here, there are some I barely know, and this would be the case for many, just because they are Habbox staff it doesn't mean we can trust everyone 100%.

For the hardcore gamblers out there, we do have the Habbox Lottery (http://www.habbox.com/lottery)running each month, and we hope to get this more successful in the upcoming months.


I think if we were to have a casino, (and I am still not 100% sure)- then there certainly wouldnt be rights being sold to anyone (I have enough trouble keeping up with rights in the helpdesk as it is), and it would be a low key thing for a bit of fun and to try attract a new kind of visitors. I don't mind us having a casino room set up and on the official list, but the dealers would be very restricted (probably with just Dan dealing, since I am poor and am not really into casinos and stuff anyway).

I may even do some kind of free casino at one point (like the free grabbers we have previously done) where we can get some games going for free with some prizes on offer.

Yes, I want there to be fun, exciting things on offer for the community- but things like this really need to be thought about clearly and looked at from all angles before just plunging into things- they can offen cause more hassle than good I think.

"Hardcore Gamblers".. "Habbox Lottery" :D

[scott]

As much as I'd like that to be true, it isn't. Habbox have banned users from habboxforum for acting an arse in the desk. Habbox management get their hands tangled with situations that don't involve them. For example when I made / hosted certain websites in the past management practically blackmailed me, remove it or an IP ban from the website was in the horizon. That's like me punching the guy next door in the face who works for google and google ip banning me.


I know I'm going back a few pages but if I remember correctly the website was made and it targetted a lot of Habbox members? If i'm thinking of the correct website :P

Anyway I'd say no to a Habbox Casino you can say oh it will be moderated a lot but if someone scams then aren't they going to be like "OMG I GOT SCAMMED AT HABBOX CASINO LOLOLOL" what sort of name would that gave us? It's a really tricky situation and it's something that even if someone wasn't scammed they would still try and do to give us a bad reputation it's a no from me :()

[Richie]

I know I'm going back a few pages but if I remember correctly the website was made and it targetted a lot of Habbox members? If i'm thinking of the correct website :P

Anyway I'd say no to a Habbox Casino you can say oh it will be moderated a lot but if someone scams then aren't they going to be like "OMG I GOT SCAMMED AT HABBOX CASINO LOLOLOL" what sort of name would that gave us? It's a really tricky situation and it's something that even if someone wasn't scammed they would still try and do to give us a bad reputation it's a no from me :()

Even if it did and I agree the website was wrong however my point is it's still none of habboxs business. That's like if I shot you in reality then the local shop we both use got pissy about it and bared me even though I had no "beef" with that shop. They aren't linked in any way. Maybe not that extreme but I think you get my point :P.

[Pigperson]

Hehe nice to see that you saw the thread Dan :D

I think it would be a great idea but I think, you (or another staff member) should have a clone in the room in the door or whatever to monitor the bets and make sure the dealers are safe.

In the forum this was posted in, we were basically saying how we were annoyed that casino dealers scam so I really urge you to make a casino that is as safe as possible and better than the rest.

I have always thought this is a good idea because you earn credits to put towards Habbox causes and you can also charge the tiny bit more because it's the official Habbox room and will get loads of people there.

But yeh, the only reason I would use this casino instead of another is the assurance that the staff will try to make sure the dealers are safe!

Good luck with the room Dan, if you need help with design or stacking, just message me!

Will

[Inseriousity.]

Even if it did and I agree the website was wrong however my point is it's still none of habboxs business. That's like if I shot you in reality then the local shop we both use got pissy about it and bared me even though I had no "beef" with that shop. They aren't linked in any way. Maybe not that extreme but I think you get my point :P.

If you shot scott, we'd all throw a party. joking scott dont ban me :P

Personally, I think "gamblers" would love a casino which while it's not a guaranteed scam-free is not able to be light with scammers. Habbo players who use casinos already gamble knowing full well they could be scammed and if they are, they have no-one to turn to as Habbo don't do anything. It's a strength rather than a weakness imo.

[.x.miss.angel.x]

I think its a great idea!
You could always hire mods to look over the room (senior staff maybe?), and maybe have certain rules about hiring so you need vouches to make sure they are safe. Would bring a few more people over to Habbox I think ;)

[AgnesIO]

If you shot scott, we'd all throw a party. joking scott dont ban me :P

Personally, I think "gamblers" would love a casino which while it's not a guaranteed scam-free is not able to be light with scammers. Habbo players who use casinos already gamble knowing full well they could be scammed and if they are, they have no-one to turn to as Habbo don't do anything. It's a strength rather than a weakness imo.

The thing is the only casinos now are either norm casinos or 300+ throne ones.

I would not bet at a Habbox Casino even if there was one, I would go to Jake's (BelieveMeSafety). I have rights there, and the high price of rights provide some kind of safety thoughts. Mind you I would only bet Jake :rolleyes:

[tylermunjkt]

Some people could go in, not get scammed and say they got scammed.
No for me xD

[beth]

though i agree any initiative to get habbox's name spread around habbo, i think anything like this is generally a bad idea. it's just too risky. and like someone said before, if a staff member is gonna scam, i don't think a little volunteer job on a habbo fansite is gonna stop them.

[Alex3213]

Also in addition to the staff point which has been made countlessly throughout this thread, more people will register (good) to apply for staff, stay a couple of weeks and pass their trial so they look trusted and then thereafter scam and BANG! A Habbox staff member has just scammed in a Habbox casino, doesn't look too good does it? :P

[orientalframe?]

I honestly don't think its a good idea, it would be a brilliant event and I'm sure lots of people from the community will start signing up etc - but IF someone does scam it will not be a good reputation for Habbox, even though this has been said a numerous amount of times, its definitely something to consider whether people are trustworthy or not.

[Cerys]

Hm, It seems like a good idea!
Maybe a new 'Casino Moderation/Dealer' department could be made, so any trouble is immediately sorted out, and it will usually have someone inside who knows what they're doing!
:)

[AgnesIO]

Hm, It seems like a good idea!
Maybe a new 'Casino Moderation/Dealer' department could be made, so any trouble is immediately sorted out, and it will usually have someone inside who knows what they're doing!
:)

We do NOT need another department.

Also, how do you decide who is trustworthy?

Sorry, this idea sounds great in writing, but when you look at the cons it is complete rubbish :p

[Chippiewill]

This is pretty simple to moderate really, 2t for rights, 1t maximum bet allowed. Suddenly scamming isn't too profitable.

[Cerys]

We do NOT need another department.

Also, how do you decide who is trustworthy?

Sorry, this idea sounds great in writing, but when you look at the cons it is complete rubbish :p

We decide who's trustworthy by maybe putting some of the staff who're in habbox at the moment in there. I know what you mean when you say We don't deen another Department, but the casino might not even happen so it's great to just play around with the idea etc. :P
Also, it might have good reasons to get a new department like this, because habbox will get a stronger community, and have more room for people to get jobs when they haven't got one already.
:P

[Alex3213]

We decide who's trustworthy by maybe putting some of the staff who're in habbox at the moment in there. I know what you mean when you say We don't deen another Department, but the casino might not even happen so it's great to just play around with the idea etc. :P
Also, it might have good reasons to get a new department like this, because habbox will get a stronger community, and have more room for people to get jobs when they haven't got one already.
:P

Sorry Cerys but just because there is a Habbox staff moderating it or whatever, doesn't mean that that staff will be trustworthy. :P :)
Also as I'm not too supportive on the idea I wouldn't really like another department, there isn't much actually to manage so it'd be a bit silly to just create a department out of nothing. :)

[Catzsy]

This is pretty simple to moderate really, 2t for rights, 1t maximum bet allowed. Suddenly scamming isn't too profitable.

To a dedicated casino scammer 2T is not much tbh compared to what they could make. Maybe start off small with only Dan as the only one and see how it goes from there?

[Cerys]

Sorry Cerys but just because there is a Habbox staff moderating it or whatever, doesn't mean that that staff will be trustworthy. :P :)
Also as I'm not too supportive on the idea I wouldn't really like another department, there isn't much actually to manage so it'd be a bit silly to just create a department out of nothing. :)

Shh Alex. :P
I take my idea back, and my new idea is to cook Alex + make a buffet out of him!
Jk :)

[Txyla]

You could just use the forum mods to mod it, or you could introduce a new rank like 'Casino Moderator'

[Alex3213]

You could just use the forum mods to mod it, or you could introduce a new rank like 'Casino Moderator'

Forum moderators mod the FORUM. There's been quite a few incidents in the last few years where the moderator hasn't been trustworthy and quite a few of the current mods probably wanted to become one because they like the job and a couple probably don't even play Habbo. Like Dom said, there is no need for another rank/department. Also like Dom said, it's an interesting idea on paper but personally I don't think a casino in the long term would be beneficial for Habbox.

[AgnesIO]

You could just use the forum mods to mod it, or you could introduce a new rank like 'Casino Moderator'

You do realise most our MODs haven't played Habbo in years?

[orientalframe?]

Forum moderators mod the FORUM.

Well done for stating the obvious.

But if you look at the mods now, you can't really look at them and say they're not trustworthy.. although most of them don't even play habbo I honestly wouldn't recommend them for it anyway. Also the idea for a whole new department for just the casino - when it probably wont happen anyway is going a bit over the top as it isn't beneficial for Habbox as Alex said.

[Catzsy]

You do realise most our MODs haven't played Habbo in years?

Actually I wouldn't say 'most' - quite a lot of them do but I do agree that it wouldn't have to be mods. If it was
thought to be a good idea I am sure they could choose who would be trustworthy amongst the staff. :)

[Mathew]

Shall we just conclude that this is a poor idea, because everyone seems to be straggling at a lost cause? :P

If Dan wants to make his own casino and shove Habbox in the description then let him get on with it (although I would say it's Martin's job anyway), but I think people are looking way too far into this now and it's not getting anywhere.

[AgnesIO]

Well done for stating the obvious.

But if you look at the mods now, you can't really look at them and say they're not trustworthy.. although most of them don't even play habbo I honestly wouldn't recommend them for it anyway. Also the idea for a whole new department for just the casino - when it probably wont happen anyway is going a bit over the top as it isn't beneficial for Habbox as Alex said.

Yes he did state the obvious, but if it is so bloody obvious why was it even suggested?

The problem is new moderators get hired a lot - are you saying they will be trustworthy to? Also Habbox used to have an [A]GM who hacked loads of thrones. But I bet most people would have said they were perfectly trustworthy.

[orientalframe?]

Yes he did state the obvious, but if it is so bloody obvious why was it even suggested?

The problem is new moderators get hired a lot - are you saying they will be trustworthy to? Also Habbox used to have an [A]GM who hacked loads of thrones. But I bet most people would have said they were perfectly trustworthy.

You say that when I have no idea myself.

No I'm not saying that new moderators will be trustworthy, as I did say now.. and also from what I can see there hasn't been any recently. I do know that and I do also think that most people would have said that too, but then you would need to know that person well enough, and obviously wasn't for the job.

[Inseriousity.]

Yes he did state the obvious, but if it is so bloody obvious why was it even suggested?

Just because it's obvious to you doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone.

[AgnesIO]

Just because it's obvious to you doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone.

I am aware of that, however: "Well done for stating the obvious." - that post was not wanted, since Alex was saying what the forum moderators job is - he was trying to help someone.

[iLogan]

Sounds like a great idea, Dan!

[JerseySafety]

good idea.

your so smart danube :)

[Nuxty]

Silly idea, will bring us more bad than good. Habbo Staff aren't too keen on casinos, it's a form of gambling which they advise against, I doubt they'd be very impressed with one of their fansites promoting it?

Plus, casinos are trouble. You never know what to expect with people, now unless you want to interrogate every single person that wants to be a dealer in your "trusted casino" you'll end up with no one. It's Habbo, anyone can say anything or act in any particular way, they can gain your trust and simply show their true colours <-- I've seen it happen before.

Fair enough if you want to open your own Casino, but I don't personally feel it'll do us much good and I think you should keep it completely separated from Habbox.

[AgnesIO]

Silly idea, will bring us more bad than good. Habbo Staff aren't too keen on casinos, it's a form of gambling which they advise against, I doubt they'd be very impressed with one of their fansites promoting it?

Plus, casinos are trouble. You never know what to expect with people, now unless you want to interrogate every single person that wants to be a dealer in your "trusted casino" you'll end up with no one. It's Habbo, anyone can say anything or act in any particular way, they can gain your trust and simply show their true colours <-- I've seen it happen before.

Fair enough if you want to open your own Casino, but I don't personally feel it'll do us much good and I think you should keep it completely separated from Habbox.

Clearly Habbo do not have much against casinos.. or they would simply use their power and ban them.

[Catzsy]

Clearly Habbo do not have much against casinos.. or they would simply use their power and ban them.

I agree here. They have been a part of Habbo since they began and there has been a lot of well known owners who have not scammed but mostly they do. If you bet beware that you may lose it all!

[Nuxty]

Clearly Habbo do not have much against casinos.. or they would simply use their power and ban them.

I did say they advise against them ;) I didn't say they were totally against them becoming Nazis and ambushing them all.

This is taken from the FAQ's regarding Scams:

How can I avoid being scammed?
Unfortunately, in any online community there will be a minority of people who will try to scam others. Habbo is no exception so it's important that you are aware of how common scams operate so you can avoid becoming a victim of a scammer.

Credit scams
One common method of scamming is the Credit Code scam. The scammer will offer a Credit Code in return for furniture and they'll ask that you trade first. If you trade you'll be given a false Credit Code and will have lost your furniture. The only safe way to trade for Credits is by trading furniture for Habbo Exchange items (coins, money bags and gold bars) which can be clicked on to redeem Credits.

Some scammers will claim that they know a special cheat; a way that Staff get Credits. They will tell you to telephone the Credits line and enter in a special code to receive your free Credits. The code is their Habbo ID and by entering it when you phone the Credits line, you will be paying to give the scammer Credits. Habbo staff don't get Credits by any of the advertised payment methods so anyone claiming to have a staff Credit cheat is scamming.

Furni scams
There are many ways scammers will try to cheat you of your furniture, some are very easy to spot and some more difficult. Here are some of the common things scammers try:

* Double your furniture. There is absolutely no way to have furniture doubled. Never hand over your items to someone who says they can.

* Pet trading. Pets cannot be traded or transferred, so never give items to someone who says they'll buy you a pet as a gift or trade one of their existing pets with you.

* Teleporter trading. It's not possible to know whether a pair of teleports in a trade window actually link and a common scam is to trade teleports which don't link. We advise never trading for teleports.

* Decorator scams. A scammer may offer to put wallpaper or flooring in your room in return for furniture. Never agree to this as it's not possible to place wallpaper, paint or flooring in another Habbo's room.

* Trophy scams. The trophy scam works by showing you a trophy with a Staff inscription on it in a room and asking you to trade furniture for it. However the scammer will pick up the trophy and replace it with an identical looking one in the trade window which does not have the Staff inscription.

* Scripted Items. A scammer may offer you sticki notes or furniture in colors you've never seen before and tell you that it's a very rare release. Unfortunately these items are almost always scripted (temporarily altered using a scripting program) and not worth trading anything for. Always check out lists of known furniture on reputable fansites before considering trading for anything unusual.

* Paying for room rights. You may be offered rights in a guest room in return for giving the owner furniture. Unfortunately once you have handed over the furniture you have no guarantee that your rights will be added or, if they are, how long they will last. Never pay for room rights.

* Pay to Stay. Some players' game rooms will advertise 'pay to stay', a scheme where you have to pay an item of furniture to stay in the room and play the game. Unfortunately you have no guarantee once you've given an item that you'll be allowed to stay and play or that you'll win anything in return. Treat 'pay to stay' in a game the same as giving your item away as a donation and then you won't be disappointed!

* Casino scams. Some rooms are set up as casinos where you bet items on the outcome of a spin of the dice. Never play such games if the room owner asks for your bet up front because you have no guarantee that you won't be kicked from the room as soon as you've handed over your item.

* Shared rooms. You may get friendly with a Habbo who suggests you pool your furniture to make one big room as a maze, casino or other function that will be popular to other players. Remember that if you give your furniture to another player to decorate a room they have created, they may decide not to give it back to you!

Scam sites
Scam sites are probably one of the most common ways that players get cheated out of their Habbo password. Scam sites come in many forms, but here are some main ones to look out for:

* Free furni/Credits. Sites which offer free furniture or Credits if you sign in to them with your Habbo name and password are always scams. Some may even pretend to be the personal homepages of Habbo Staff, but don't be fooled, they aren't!

* Spoof hotels. Some sites may look like Habbo, even down to the layout and graphics on the front page, but unless the website address at the top of the page is www.habbo.xx it's a scam. A common way for scammers to get you to put your password into such sites is by pretending they are a new Hotel that's just opened or that it's a beta version of Habbo. Remember that your Habbo name and password will only ever work on one site, the Hotel you registered it on.

* Reloaders. A player may ask you to take a look at their website whilst you are playing on Habbo and when you do, your Habbo Hotel session mysteriously disconnects and a window pops up to log in again. This is a 'reloader' and what it has done is replace your real Habbo session with a fake sign-in screen which will steal your password if you enter it. If your Habbo session ever disconnects when you are on another site always close down your browser windows, start your browser up again and go straight to the official Habbo Hotel site to sign back in securely.

* Scripts and cheats. Some websites may offer you downloads of cool looking cheats or scripts to alter Habbo. Never download these sorts of files as they often contain keyloggers which record your key presses (eg entering your password) and email them to the scammer. They could also contain Trojan viruses which allow the scammer to access your computer and steal information stored there or do other damage.

*Auction Scams. Room owner offers to hold your item in an auction room and receive bids from other Habbos to win it. Once you give your item away, it’s no longer yours, and the Habbo who owns the room keeps it and kicks you.

*Password Phishing. A Habbo might come into the room and tell you that with the most recent update your password will no longer show up when you type it in the chat box. Now it will show up as something like ****, bobba, or anything else the scammer has dreamt up. When you type in your password, everyone in the room will see it, including the scammer. It’s never a good idea to type your password other than in the login screen.

Email Scams

These kind of scams can also include email, Twitter, MSN/AOL, Facebook, or Myspace scams. Usually a scammer will attempt to contact you outside of Habbo to gain access to your Habbo account. Here are some tips to keeping your accounts safe from these kind of scams.

* Hotel Staff will never threaten you to re-verify your emails or to re-activate your Habbo account or else your account will be deleted. Please be aware that these emails were not sent by Habbo and are being used to gain access to your accounts by sending you to scamming / phishing sites.

* Never follow links from emails to services, even when the messages look trustworthy. Type in the address to your browser instead- and be careful because many scamming sites will look exactly like ours in an attempt to fool you into entering your username and password- always check the web address in your browser.

* Never reveal your password to any other person or web site. Check your browser's address bar before typing in your password.

* Please be aware that we would never email you threatening to de-activate your Habbo account on such short notice. If you do receive strange emails like this and you are not sure if they are really from us, please contact our help desk.

* Please remember to be careful to whom you give out personal information, on Habbo and on other websites.

Now the bit in there 'Casino scams. Some rooms are set up as casinos where you bet items on the outcome of a spin of the dice. Never play such games if the room owner asks for your bet up front because you have no guarantee that you won't be kicked from the room as soon as you've handed over your item.' - I'm pretty sure that's the method used in Casinos? You hand your furni over placing the bet, then you play the game? So technically the dealer will always be asking for your items to be handed over first. ;)

[AgnesIO]

I did say they advise against them ;) I didn't say they were totally against them becoming Nazis and ambushing them all.

This is taken from the FAQ's regarding Scams:

How can I avoid being scammed?
Unfortunately, in any online community there will be a minority of people who will try to scam others. Habbo is no exception so it's important that you are aware of how common scams operate so you can avoid becoming a victim of a scammer.

Credit scams
One common method of scamming is the Credit Code scam. The scammer will offer a Credit Code in return for furniture and they'll ask that you trade first. If you trade you'll be given a false Credit Code and will have lost your furniture. The only safe way to trade for Credits is by trading furniture for Habbo Exchange items (coins, money bags and gold bars) which can be clicked on to redeem Credits.

Some scammers will claim that they know a special cheat; a way that Staff get Credits. They will tell you to telephone the Credits line and enter in a special code to receive your free Credits. The code is their Habbo ID and by entering it when you phone the Credits line, you will be paying to give the scammer Credits. Habbo staff don't get Credits by any of the advertised payment methods so anyone claiming to have a staff Credit cheat is scamming.

Furni scams
There are many ways scammers will try to cheat you of your furniture, some are very easy to spot and some more difficult. Here are some of the common things scammers try:

* Double your furniture. There is absolutely no way to have furniture doubled. Never hand over your items to someone who says they can.

* Pet trading. Pets cannot be traded or transferred, so never give items to someone who says they'll buy you a pet as a gift or trade one of their existing pets with you.

* Teleporter trading. It's not possible to know whether a pair of teleports in a trade window actually link and a common scam is to trade teleports which don't link. We advise never trading for teleports.

* Decorator scams. A scammer may offer to put wallpaper or flooring in your room in return for furniture. Never agree to this as it's not possible to place wallpaper, paint or flooring in another Habbo's room.

* Trophy scams. The trophy scam works by showing you a trophy with a Staff inscription on it in a room and asking you to trade furniture for it. However the scammer will pick up the trophy and replace it with an identical looking one in the trade window which does not have the Staff inscription.

* Scripted Items. A scammer may offer you sticki notes or furniture in colors you've never seen before and tell you that it's a very rare release. Unfortunately these items are almost always scripted (temporarily altered using a scripting program) and not worth trading anything for. Always check out lists of known furniture on reputable fansites before considering trading for anything unusual.

* Paying for room rights. You may be offered rights in a guest room in return for giving the owner furniture. Unfortunately once you have handed over the furniture you have no guarantee that your rights will be added or, if they are, how long they will last. Never pay for room rights.

* Pay to Stay. Some players' game rooms will advertise 'pay to stay', a scheme where you have to pay an item of furniture to stay in the room and play the game. Unfortunately you have no guarantee once you've given an item that you'll be allowed to stay and play or that you'll win anything in return. Treat 'pay to stay' in a game the same as giving your item away as a donation and then you won't be disappointed!

* Casino scams. Some rooms are set up as casinos where you bet items on the outcome of a spin of the dice. Never play such games if the room owner asks for your bet up front because you have no guarantee that you won't be kicked from the room as soon as you've handed over your item.

* Shared rooms. You may get friendly with a Habbo who suggests you pool your furniture to make one big room as a maze, casino or other function that will be popular to other players. Remember that if you give your furniture to another player to decorate a room they have created, they may decide not to give it back to you!

Scam sites
Scam sites are probably one of the most common ways that players get cheated out of their Habbo password. Scam sites come in many forms, but here are some main ones to look out for:

* Free furni/Credits. Sites which offer free furniture or Credits if you sign in to them with your Habbo name and password are always scams. Some may even pretend to be the personal homepages of Habbo Staff, but don't be fooled, they aren't!

* Spoof hotels. Some sites may look like Habbo, even down to the layout and graphics on the front page, but unless the website address at the top of the page is www.habbo.xx it's a scam. A common way for scammers to get you to put your password into such sites is by pretending they are a new Hotel that's just opened or that it's a beta version of Habbo. Remember that your Habbo name and password will only ever work on one site, the Hotel you registered it on.

* Reloaders. A player may ask you to take a look at their website whilst you are playing on Habbo and when you do, your Habbo Hotel session mysteriously disconnects and a window pops up to log in again. This is a 'reloader' and what it has done is replace your real Habbo session with a fake sign-in screen which will steal your password if you enter it. If your Habbo session ever disconnects when you are on another site always close down your browser windows, start your browser up again and go straight to the official Habbo Hotel site to sign back in securely.

* Scripts and cheats. Some websites may offer you downloads of cool looking cheats or scripts to alter Habbo. Never download these sorts of files as they often contain keyloggers which record your key presses (eg entering your password) and email them to the scammer. They could also contain Trojan viruses which allow the scammer to access your computer and steal information stored there or do other damage.

*Auction Scams. Room owner offers to hold your item in an auction room and receive bids from other Habbos to win it. Once you give your item away, it’s no longer yours, and the Habbo who owns the room keeps it and kicks you.

*Password Phishing. A Habbo might come into the room and tell you that with the most recent update your password will no longer show up when you type it in the chat box. Now it will show up as something like ****, bobba, or anything else the scammer has dreamt up. When you type in your password, everyone in the room will see it, including the scammer. It’s never a good idea to type your password other than in the login screen.

Email Scams

These kind of scams can also include email, Twitter, MSN/AOL, Facebook, or Myspace scams. Usually a scammer will attempt to contact you outside of Habbo to gain access to your Habbo account. Here are some tips to keeping your accounts safe from these kind of scams.

* Hotel Staff will never threaten you to re-verify your emails or to re-activate your Habbo account or else your account will be deleted. Please be aware that these emails were not sent by Habbo and are being used to gain access to your accounts by sending you to scamming / phishing sites.

* Never follow links from emails to services, even when the messages look trustworthy. Type in the address to your browser instead- and be careful because many scamming sites will look exactly like ours in an attempt to fool you into entering your username and password- always check the web address in your browser.

* Never reveal your password to any other person or web site. Check your browser's address bar before typing in your password.

* Please be aware that we would never email you threatening to de-activate your Habbo account on such short notice. If you do receive strange emails like this and you are not sure if they are really from us, please contact our help desk.

* Please remember to be careful to whom you give out personal information, on Habbo and on other websites.

Now the bit in there 'Casino scams. Some rooms are set up as casinos where you bet items on the outcome of a spin of the dice. Never play such games if the room owner asks for your bet up front because you have no guarantee that you won't be kicked from the room as soon as you've handed over your item.' - I'm pretty sure that's the method used in Casinos? You hand your furni over placing the bet, then you play the game? So technically the dealer will always be asking for your items to be handed over first. ;)

They only say that, as otherwise you could demand they pay your furni back - since they never told you it could be a scam.

[Nuxty]

They only say that, as otherwise you could demand they pay your furni back - since they never told you it could be a scam.

That's a good point Dom, but I'm still against this idea xD I just think that it won't do much good for Habbox imo.

[AgnesIO]

That's a good point Dom, but I'm still against this idea xD I just think that it won't do much good for Habbox imo.

Oh I am totally against this idea - been arguing against anyone who liked it for about ten pages haha :D

[xxMATTGxx]

I've looked through all of the pages and to be honest, I don't think I like the idea. Yeah it would be great for Habbox in terms of our name being on the hotel and casinos can be quite popular which would be a success if the people within the room also joined up on our websites. But then there is the downside of it just being too risky to do, if people are scammed and they see it being an official room of Habbox then there is the problem of people complaining, demanding a refund/furni back and could give us quite a bad name.

Yes you can tell them thousands of times that Habbox are not responsible for whatever happens. But that will not stop them from doing it. Anyway, If this was ever to "happen" then I would rather see the Community AGM own the room really as being the Community AGM = Habbo = Nice of them to own offical rooms for Habbox.

[Nuxty]

I've looked through all of the pages and to be honest, I don't think I like the idea. Yeah it would be great for Habbox in terms of our name being on the hotel and casinos can be quite popular which would be a success if the people within the room also joined up on our websites. But then there is the downside of it just being too risky to do, if people are scammed and they see it being an official room of Habbox then there is the problem of people complaining, demanding a refund/furni back and could give us quite a bad name.

Yes you can tell them thousands of times that Habbox are not responsible for whatever happens. But that will not stop them from doing it. Anyway, If this was ever to "happen" then I would rather see the Community AGM own the room really as being the Community AGM = Habbo = Nice of them to own offical rooms for Habbox.

Yeah, I totally agree Matt. If things were to go wrong it could jeopardise our official status and just generally cause us unnecessary hassle. I just think it was a silly idea from the start anyway!

[Richie]

I know this is off topic but did you know it's actually illegal for children to bet online, even if it's virtual furniture. Big companys like jagex have been contacted about children doing similar bets in game and they have been forced to patch it somehow, I'm surprised sulake hasn't been contacted yet.

Another reason I think it's a horrible idea is it would encourage others who haven't betted before to start gambling which is setting a bad example and I thought habbox was all for setting good examples?

[Martin]

I think we've pretty much come to the conclusion that it's a no. The only way I will see something like this happen will either be in terms of a fun event thingee where I may run a 'free casino' where people can just play the casino games and win prizes, a bit like the free grabber that we had in HxHD which was a success imo- however there will be no 'betting' etc. Things like this can easily cause problems, are a pain in the ass to moderate and can quite easily get out of control. There are far better things we can be doing to promote the site on the client, and I just think this isn't a route I would like to go down in all honesty.

[jakey,,]

seeming as me n beth own the richest casinos in hotel i'd suggest the owners collect furni from staff and create a room otherwise you want to get sponsor casinos like -ugly- and advertise habbox.com but you'd want a whole new department i'd say for that as it takes alot of effort and time getitng a casino well known and popular due to the amount of casinos, but it's a great idea :P

[e5]

This could work if it was going to be popular. It would have to be something really super-fied to keep up with the casinos in Habbo now otherwise it will just fail.

If enough people bought rights, and used the booths, and kept it popular it would work. I'd go to it. It would be nice to go to a casino that is active and fun to be in.

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Silly idea, will bring us more bad than good. Habbo Staff aren't too keen on casinos, it's a form of gambling which they advise against, I doubt they'd be very impressed with one of their fansites promoting it?

Plus, casinos are trouble. You never know what to expect with people, now unless you want to interrogate every single person that wants to be a dealer in your "trusted casino" you'll end up with no one. It's Habbo, anyone can say anything or act in any particular way, they can gain your trust and simply show their true colours <-- I've seen it happen before.

Fair enough if you want to open your own Casino, but I don't personally feel it'll do us much good and I think you should keep it completely separated from Habbox.

It's fine for a fansoite to have a casino. They wouldn't create dice and allow casinos if they didn't want us to bet furni etc! :P

[jakey,,]

This could work if it was going to be popular. It would have to be something really super-fied to keep up with the casinos in Habbo now otherwise it will just fail.

If enough people bought rights, and used the booths, and kept it popular it would work. I'd go to it. It would be nice to go to a casino that is active and fun to be in.

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It's fine for a fansoite to have a casino. They wouldn't create dice and allow casinos if they didn't want us to bet furni etc! :P

habbo don't like fansites using their status as a money scheme though :p habbo might see it like that and just take the dj partys to the casinos loool not hard

[GirlNextDoor15]

Green casino. It's a lovely idea and let's give it a shot. However, scams will happen easily and it might get us (HX staff) banned. we'll have to monitor very closely

[Nuxty]

This could work if it was going to be popular. It would have to be something really super-fied to keep up with the casinos in Habbo now otherwise it will just fail.

If enough people bought rights, and used the booths, and kept it popular it would work. I'd go to it. It would be nice to go to a casino that is active and fun to be in.

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It's fine for a fansoite to have a casino. They wouldn't create dice and allow casinos if they didn't want us to bet furni etc! :P

Well, I am afraid that's my opinion Elliott. I just think casinos come with trouble and that it isn't what we need at Habbox.

I don't believe this idea will be happening anyway.

[Catzsy]

I think we've pretty much come to the conclusion that it's a no. The only way I will see something like this happen will either be in terms of a fun event thingee where I may run a 'free casino' where people can just play the casino games and win prizes, a bit like the free grabber that we had in HxHD which was a success imo- however there will be no 'betting' etc. Things like this can easily cause problems, are a pain in the ass to moderate and can quite easily get out of control. There are far better things we can be doing to promote the site on the client, and I just think this isn't a route I would like to go down in all honesty.


I've looked through all of the pages and to be honest, I don't think I like the idea. Yeah it would be great for Habbox in terms of our name being on the hotel and casinos can be quite popular which would be a success if the people within the room also joined up on our websites. But then there is the downside of it just being too risky to do, if people are scammed and they see it being an official room of Habbox then there is the problem of people complaining, demanding a refund/furni back and could give us quite a bad name.

Yes you can tell them thousands of times that Habbox are not responsible for whatever happens. But that will not stop them from doing it. Anyway, If this was ever to "happen" then I would rather see the Community AGM own the room really as being the Community AGM = Habbo = Nice of them to own offical rooms for Habbox.


I think this thread has pretty much reached the end of it's shelf life and both Matt and Martin have given it a 'thumbs down'. :)

[eJamiey]

Sick idea (Good) i wouldnt mind like being a Casino Moderator as i could be in there alot, and you could possible have apps on Casino Moderators like who watch the room closely, as i would be in there all the time. Great Idea again!

[AgnesIO]

Sick idea (Good) i wouldnt mind like being a Casino Moderator as i could be in there alot, and you could possible have apps on Casino Moderators like who watch the room closely, as i would be in there all the time. Great Idea again!

And why should I trust you? That comment applies to everyone - why would or should I trust a volunteer staff member (especially one who has made two posts!) As much as it is a nice idea, it really wouldn't work :P

[e5]

Don't think it is happening, but I wouldn't complain if it did :)