Mild swearing

[Richie]

I'm making this thread 'cause I'm a *** and like to complain. I don't see how adding a song into a spoiler that has mild swearing makes a difference. No-ones gives a **** about swearing in videos they just report it to be ****, it's like you guys think people are honestly going to go "Oh no, this song is in a spoiler and it says contains swearing, I wouldn't dare click it" if that's the reason, jesus christ meet 2011. If a song swears excessively, remove it. If it's mild just leave it, it is on the forum anyways.


Jeez

[Chris]

You never fail to disappoint. :P

You have to remember that habbox has a lot of younger users, and any one of them could go watching these videos. It works the same way as the filter, we don't do it for fun, we do it to stop younger members viewing it by accident.

[Nemo]

You never fail to disappoint. :P

You have to remember that habbox has a lot of younger users, and any one of them could go watching these videos. It works the same way as the filter, we don't do it for fun, we do it to stop younger members viewing it by accident.
This is the worst excuse ever. It's the INTERNET. So much god damn **** is on this thing and is easily viewable by anyone, whether they want or not. The odd swear word that most people dont even pick up is hardly anything to go nuts about.

[Samantha]

You never fail to disappoint. :P

You have to remember that habbox has a lot of younger users, and any one of them could go watching these videos. It works the same way as the filter, we don't do it for fun, we do it to stop younger members viewing it by accident.

They could easily just come away from the thread without giving it time to load. You could just put a small heading contains rare, mild swearing without needing to use a spoiler.

[Richie]

You never fail to disappoint. :P

You have to remember that habbox has a lot of younger users, and any one of them could go watching these videos. It works the same way as the filter, we don't do it for fun, we do it to stop younger members viewing it by accident.

If i had a euro every time someone said this I could buy habbo. You remind me of someone out of coronation street.

[Shar]

It breaks rule A3 which clearly states: "Do not avoid the forum filter ~ It is not allowed to avoid the forum filter in any way. This includes using abbreviations, images or any other forms." Thus a spoiler and warning must be added.

[David]

There should be a forum for 16yo+ users, where there is no filter and you can rant and shout and swear and post stuff that's inappropriate for other categories..?

[Richie]

It breaks rule A3 which clearly states: "Do not avoid the forum filter ~ It is not allowed to avoid the forum filter in any way. This includes using abbreviations, images or any other forms." Thus a spoiler and warning must be added.

I don't care if it breaks a rule, fix it.

Okay I will rephrase that so I don't sound like a ****. Things like this annoys me, state the obvious much? I clearly know it's a rule.

[Chris]

I don't care if it breaks a rule, fix it.

The rules aren't likely to change because you, or anyone else throws their dummy out the pram when they break it. That rule has been there for yonks and we have always dealt with it in the same way.

[Samantha]

There should be a forum for 16yo+ users, where there is no filter and you can rant and shout and swear and post stuff that's inappropriate for other categories..?

People can easily lie about their age!

[Richie]

The rules aren't likely to change because you, or anyone else throws their dummy out the pram when they break it. That rule has been there for yonks and we have always dealt with it in the same way.

Oh can you shut up? I'm not saying change it because of me I'm saying it's a dumb rule, I'm giving feedback and if you can't deal with feedback you really shouldn't be a mod.

[David]

People can easily lie about their age!

If that be the case, a forum for anyone who disagrees with the filter, and wants to post where there is none :)
Those who don't want to read or post there simply don't go there?
& obviously, there would be boundaries of what content can and can't be posted, but more lax than other categories:)

[Samantha]

If that be the case, a forum for anyone who disagrees with the filter, and wants to post where there is none :)
Those who don't want to read or post there simply don't go there?

I think this is very similar to the optional filter thread that was made a few weeks ago and it got shot down rather quickly.

http://www.habboxforum.com/search.php?searchid=270476

[Chris]

Oh can you shut up? I'm not saying change it because of me I'm saying it's a dumb rule, I'm giving feedback and if you can't deal with feedback you really shouldn't be a mod.

I can take the feedback, but it's the fact that you complain when it suits you. Had you not have broken that rule, then we wouldn't be here right now debating this topic.

[cocaine]

richie this might be the first thing i agree with you about. kids come off habbo where they see/write swearwords and somehow find themselves on a forum thats as strict as a nuns convent

[David]

I think this is very similar to the optional filter thread that was made a few weeks ago and it got shot down rather quickly.

http://www.habboxforum.com/search.php?searchid=270476

Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

[Richie]

I can take the feedback, but it's the fact that you complain when it suits you. Had you not have broken that rule, then we wouldn't be here right now debating this topic.

I can complain when I want lol what are you ******** about.. it's a forum, freedom of speech. Oh and no I wouldn't of made this thread because it wouldn't of made me think about it.

[Samantha]

Oh sorry,

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=696768&highlight=optional+filter

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=688379&highlight=optional+filter

[Nemo]

I can take the feedback, but it's the fact that you complain when it suits you. Had you not have broken that rule, then we wouldn't be here right now debating this topic.
Perhaps it's because he had not noticed the rule, or the fact that its actually enforced made him think it's silly. Either way, he noticed it and felt it should be brang up, why he brang it up should have influence. So many users agree with richie im confused as to why "because we've had it for yonks" is a valid excuse. I dare say make a poll.

[Richie]

Perhaps it's because he had not noticed the rule, or the fact that its actually enforced made him think it's silly. Either way, he noticed it and felt it should be brang up, why he brang it up should have influence. So many users agree with richie im confused as to why "because we've had it for yonks" is a valid excuse. I dare say make a poll.

That would fail they would ask their staff to vote no or their staff would just agree with them to be bum chums but I'm all for it lol

[Stephen]

You never fail to disappoint. :P

You have to remember that habbox has a lot of younger users, and any one of them could go watching these videos. It works the same way as the filter, we don't do it for fun, we do it to stop younger members viewing it by accident.

Wait so you're saying that a spoiler stops the young users watching the video??? I'd say it makes them want to watch it more... DO NOT PRESS.. soooo tempting

[David]

Oh sorry,

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=696768&highlight=optional+filter

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=688379&highlight=optional+filter

Then I stand down, Although am I the only one who still reads the *** as the swear word, and the filter does nothing in the sense of filtering?



Wait so you're saying that a spoiler stops the young users watching the video??? I'd say it makes them want to watch it more... DO NOT PRESS.. soooo tempting

I agree with this, temptation comes in to play.

[scott]

Would you rather we just stopped you from posting videos that contain swearing? We allow you to post videos that swear in a spoiler as well as post images that contain mild swearing in spoilers as it avoids the filter. The rule is there as they avoid the filter but videos are allowed to be posted as longs they are in a spoiler.

[Chris]

Wait so you're saying that a spoiler stops the young users watching the video??? I'd say it makes them want to watch it more... DO NOT PRESS.. soooo tempting

It gives users a fair warning as to what is inside. Whether they click it after that is down to them. :)

[Mathew]

That would fail they would ask their staff to vote no or their staff would just agree with them to be bum chums but I'm all for it lol
do you ******* mind ;l;l!!

i don't see the point in even discussing this. it's one of the things that comes up every couple of months and it's the same every single time; the majority of users think swearing is harmless and the filter is pointless, yet management still insist that younger users may be corrupted and brainwashed by such vulgar, hurtful language. i think it's time that Habbox starts to cater for the majority, to be honest. we're not children and we're not exempt from all this in real life, so why put us all in a cotton wool ball here? :P

[Samantha]

It is too tempting, I mean I click the spoiler in your signature everytime I see you post and I even know what it says off by heart that's how tempting it is. I get a good kick out of MattG's grammar mistake aimed at Infectious.

[Nemo]

Would you rather we just stopped you from posting videos that contain swearing? We allow you to post videos that swear in a spoiler as well as post images that contain mild swearing in spoilers as it avoids the filter. The rule is there as they avoid the filter but videos are allowed to be posted as longs they are in a spoiler.
What is this attitude? Are you our parents? BE GLAD THAT WE'RE LETTING YOU HAVE ONE COOKIE FOR TODAY, NOW GET BACK TO DOING YOUR HOMEWORK. da **** is this. Also why ignore my suggestion for a poll?


Agreed 100% with matthew

[Sharon]

There should be a forum for 16yo+ users, where there is no filter and you can rant and shout and swear and post stuff that's inappropriate for other categories..?

Why... sorry but SOME people at 12-13 can act way more mature than someone over 16 - what a stupid and ageist idea.

[scott]

What is this attitude? Are you our parents? BE GLAD THAT WE'RE LETTING YOU HAVE ONE COOKIE FOR TODAY, NOW GET BACK TO DOING YOUR HOMEWORK. da **** is this. Why ignore my suggestion for a poll?

:S Think you've totally twisted my words? Some people seem to think because they've been on the forum a long time we should just do everything we are told to do. There isn't going to be a poll put up because it's not going to change lol.

[cocaine]

There isn't going to be a poll put up because it's not going to change lol.

habbox forum democracy!!!!!

[David]

Why... sorry but SOME people at 12-13 can act way more mature than someone over 16 - what a stupid and ageist idea.

Ok, acting more mature than someone over 16, then they wouldn't need to go in the set forum to swear and post things against a filter.

Changed my statement, as I mis-read :)

[Nemo]

:S Think you've totally twisted my words? Some people seem to think because they've been on the forum a long time we should just do everything we are told to do. There isn't going to be a poll put up because it's not going to change lol.
I didnt twist anything, more how i interpreted what you said. It's not just because we've been on the forum forever (which honestly should be a big factor, we know this forum, our contributions should honestly be heard instead of being instantly dismissed), but its the MAJORITY. And not going to change ? why the hell not? If the majority want it, why not? This is the stupidest answer i've EVER seen. My god.

[Sharon]

Ok, acting more mature than someone over 16, why would they lie?.. Lying is immature :)

I'm 12 and in the nicest respect, I'd say I'm not as immature as some other people my age. I don't feel like there is anything people 16+ would talk about that I don't already get... so if this forum were to happen why would it be fair for me to not get access to the 16+ forum? Age is a number.

[HotelUser]

There are many forums on the internet which filter swearing, even forums tailored specifically for adults. Why? Because not only are there millions of other words you can use in lieu of what we consider swear words but it demerits the quality of posts made. Habbox Forum has always taken pride in that we're not just a forum composed of one and two word posts consisting of nothing but swearwords and random pictures from lolcats.

I am not shocked that people wish to be able to choose to have the option of not seeing the language filter (though unfortunately such a plugin wouldn't work on Habbox Forum), but I am surprised that some people want the filter to be obliterated altogether. That would have serious repercussions and that's certainly not something that we're going to do anytime soon, either.

[scott]

I didnt twist anything, more how i interpreted what you said. It's not just because we've been on the forum forever (which honestly should be a big factor, we know this forum, our contributions should honestly be heard instead of being instantly dismissed), but its the MAJORITY. And not going to change ? why the hell not? If the majority want it, why not? This is the stupidest answer i've EVER seen. My god.

Because if we are going to allow videos to be posted that contain swearing with no warning or spoiler we may as well remove the forum filter? Having a look through the old threads you were the one who suggested that mild swearing videos should be allowed as longs it contains a warning and is in a spoiler? It's really not going to change as the filter isn't going to be removed so it's still got to be put in a spoiler :P

[buttons]

ok look something is clearly going on, i haven't had an infraction in bare yet richie's getting one after the other

****

[David]

I'm 12 and in the nicest respect, I'd say I'm not as immature as some other people my age. I don't feel like there is anything people 16+ would talk about that I don't already get... so if this forum were to happen why would it be fair for me to not get access to the 16+ forum? Age is a number.


Ok, acting more mature than someone over 16, then they wouldn't need to go in the set forum to swear and post things against a filter.

Changed my statement, as I mis-read :)

Also, I said on the second page;



People can easily lie about their age!

If that be the case, a forum for anyone who disagrees with the filter, and wants to post where there is none :)
Those who don't want to read or post there simply don't go there?
& obviously, there would be boundaries of what content can and can't be posted, but more lax than other categories:)

[Gina]

Iz a young user- doesn't mind swearing-

[Nemo]

Because if we are going to allow videos to be posted that contain swearing with no warning or spoiler we may as well remove the forum filter? Having a look through the old threads you were the one who suggested that mild swearing videos should be allowed as longs it contains a warning and is in a spoiler? It's really not going to change as the filter isn't going to be removed so it's still got to be put in a spoiler :P
It's MILD swearing, not swearing all over the shop or in text. Its just for a brief second a word is said. Big ******* woop. And i suggested that because we had Führer Oli and that was probably as far as he was going to listen. I had hope for the new management but it would seem you lot are just as bad, if not worse.

HEIL SCT i suppose.

[Zeptis]

You never fail to disappoint. :P

You have to remember that habbox has a lot of younger users, and any one of them could go watching these videos. It works the same way as the filter, we don't do it for fun, we do it to stop younger members viewing it by accident.


Yes, we have alot of younger users, but not like in this modern age they don't swear anyway. Not like it would really matter

[Richie]

The difference between swearing in a song is "It only lasts a few seconds, then it goes away, it isn't there forever" unless you click it repeatedly, your words not mine.

[HotelUser]

The difference between swearing in a song is "It only lasts a few seconds, then it goes away, it isn't there forever" unless you click it repeatedly, your words not mine.

It doesn't take very long at all to wrap a video in a spoiler tag, and it gives adequate warning for swearing. What's the problem?

[xxMATTGxx]

I never knew putting videos inside spoilers were so hard.


- We don't need to change the filter rule as a whole.
- We don't need to change the spoiler rule for videos that contain swearing
- We are also not installing a plugin so people can opt-in or out of the filter.

Regardless of younger people these days may be "used" to swearing, it doesn't mean we should change the rules so swearing on the forum can be posted. Swearing in posts is nothing to be proud of and it doesn't look good at all.

[Richie]

My point is, fair enough it isn't hard but I don't always remember to do it and get a warning which is unfair. If I forget to do it what is the harm in the mod asking me or adding a spoiler without giving me a warning?

[Chris]

My point is, fair enough it isn't hard but I don't always remember to do it and get a warning which is unfair. If I forget to do it what is the harm in the mod asking me or adding a spoiler without giving me a warning?

It wasn't a warning, it was just a pm letting you know that Ive added spoilers and that you should do so next time. :)

[myke]

omg do u know what would be a good idea... if putting videos in your posts put the videos in spoiler automatically :O!!!!

revolutionary idea here

hoteluser, develop!!!! :P

sounds like a pokemon

HOTELUSER, I CHOOSE YOU.... HotelUser uses develop on Habbox Forum, it's not very effective. >:]

[Mr-Trainor]

omg do u know what would be a good idea... if putting videos in your posts put the videos in spoiler automatically :O!!!!

revolutionary idea here

hoteluser, develop!!!! :P

sounds like a pokemon

HOTELUSER, I CHOOSE YOU.... HotelUser uses develop on Habbox Forum, it's not very effective. >:]

You'd still need to add a warning to it though.

[myke]

You'd still need to add a warning to it though.

not if all videos had a warning on them anyway

[David]

not if all videos had a warning on them anyway

Like say, If all videos automatically got *May contain inappropriate content* above or below?

[myke]

Like say, If all videos automatically got *May contain inappropriate content* above or below?

yeah just like that :D

[GommeInc]

Wait, are moderators removing harmless content again? I was always of the impression that videos posted with a spoiler mentioning filtered content are fine IF there is a warning provided. It's in the rules dammit - granted the rules have been edited again for no reason :/


Oh can you shut up? I'm not saying change it because of me I'm saying it's a dumb rule, I'm giving feedback and if you can't deal with feedback you really shouldn't be a mod.
Agreed. I thought rudeness from moderators and staff left when Hecktix quit - he was always one to offend members when he couldn't give appropriate feedback. Telling a member to not throw their toys out of their pram is appauling behaviour - you've lost quite a lot of respect for that :P

[David]

yeah just like that :D

Very nice idea :)

[xxMATTGxx]

Wait, are moderators removing harmless content again? I was always of the impression that videos posted with a spoiler mentioning filtered content are fine IF there is a warning provided. It's in the rules dammit - granted the rules have been edited again for no reason :/

No no no, they were saying how they think the rule should be changed so they don't have to put the spoiler and warning.

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omg do u know what would be a good idea... if putting videos in your posts put the videos in spoiler automatically :O!!!!

revolutionary idea here

hoteluser, develop!!!! :P

sounds like a pokemon

HOTELUSER, I CHOOSE YOU.... HotelUser uses develop on Habbox Forum, it's not very effective. >:]


Like say, If all videos automatically got *May contain inappropriate content* above or below?

Sounds like a pretty good idea if David can wrap up something that could make it possible.

[GommeInc]

No no no, they were saying how they think the rule should be changed so they don't have to put the spoiler and warning.
Ah I see. Speaking of videos, is there any point spoilering them seeing as videos do not play automatically? A warning is helpful, although if it's just one swear word it seems silly giving him an official warning if it wasn't done intentionally. It's not like any grannies or 2 year olds were hurt in the posting of such a video :P

[xxMATTGxx]

Ah I see. Speaking of videos, is there any point spoilering them seeing as videos do not play automatically? A warning is helpful, although if it's just one swear word it seems silly giving him an official warning if it wasn't done intentionally. It's not like any grannies or 2 year olds were hurt in the posting of such a video :P

There could be some grannies out there who would do such a thing! I see your point even if it is one swear word but it's better to just have them under a spoiler and if anyone didn't want to see it due to the inappropriate language then they are aware of it, whereas if there wasn't a spoiler and a warning and they play it then yeah. So it's always nice to have the warning.

Plus the title of the video could also contain the swearing, but if we go with what Myke and davage. suggested than it wouldn't be a problem no more. (That's if Scott agrees and David can do it)

[Richie]

Ah I see. Speaking of videos, is there any point spoilering them seeing as videos do not play automatically? A warning is helpful, although if it's just one swear word it seems silly giving him an official warning if it wasn't done intentionally. It's not like any grannies or 2 year olds were hurt in the posting of such a video :P

Normally you get a warning after a few times a bit like an infraction I think or maybe not I dunno, either way an official pm is unnecessary, ask the person to fix it in a casual manner through vm or something, even in the pms about spoilers it is just too formal and makes me feel like I commited crime of the century. For example instead of pming me shar messaged me on msn saying could I add a spoiler which I thought was friendlier than a official pm.

[scott]

I've spoke to David about it and if posibble we're going to have it so if any video is posted it already contains a warning that it could have swearing etc. in but not be put in a spoiler because I think it'd be silly to put every video that's posted in a spoiler :p

[GommeInc]

Normally you get a warning after a few times a bit like an infraction I think or maybe not I dunno, either way an official pm is unnecessary, ask the person to fix it in a casual manner through vm or something, even in the pms about spoilers it is just too formal and makes me feel like I commited crime of the century. For example instead of pming me shar messaged me on msn saying could I add a spoiler which I thought was friendlier than a official pm.
I used to PM people quietly when I was a mod on here back when I moderated the graphics forum - it's far more pleasing than sending someone a wannabe robotic response - it's a fansite forum afterall, not the Business Leader's Discussion Forums.


There could be some grannies out there who would do such a thing! I see your point even if it is one swear word but it's better to just have them under a spoiler and if anyone didn't want to see it due to the inappropriate language then they are aware of it, whereas if there wasn't a spoiler and a warning and they play it then yeah. So it's always nice to have the warning.

Plus the title of the video could also contain the swearing, but if we go with what Myke and davage. suggested than it wouldn't be a problem no more. (That's if Scott agrees and David can do it)
Wouldn't the video need to be playing in order for them to see the inappropriate language? Videos do not play by default and if people hit the play button then we should assume they want to watch it and do so at their own risk. If the title has swearing then obviously a spoiler is needed - just advise members when they've forgotten to do so, or make them aware that the spoiler rule applies. It's better than getting a robotic response from a person who clearly wants to be human, but has to obey-the-systems!

[Richie]

I used to PM people quietly when I was a mod on here back when I moderated the graphics forum - it's far more pleasing than sending someone a wannabe robotic response - it's a fansite forum afterall, not the Business Leader's Discussion Forums.


Wouldn't the video need to be playing in order for them to see the inappropriate language? Videos do not play by default and if people hit the play button then we should assume they want to watch it and do so at their own risk. If the title has swearing then obviously a spoiler is needed - just advise members when they've forgotten to do so, or make them aware that the spoiler rule applies. It's better than getting a robotic response from a person who clearly wants to be human, but has to obey-the-systems!

I agree, I honestly think if there was a button just under the "paste video url" saying "Tick this box if this is mild 18+ content etc" it's not that I'm lazy I just forget and seeing that underneath wouldn't only save me time but would help me remember I need to had spoilers.

[xxMATTGxx]

I used to PM people quietly when I was a mod on here back when I moderated the graphics forum - it's far more pleasing than sending someone a wannabe robotic response - it's a fansite forum afterall, not the Business Leader's Discussion Forums.


Wouldn't the video need to be playing in order for them to see the inappropriate language? Videos do not play by default and if people hit the play button then we should assume they want to watch it and do so at their own risk. If the title has swearing then obviously a spoiler is needed - just advise members when they've forgotten to do so, or make them aware that the spoiler rule applies. It's better than getting a robotic response from a person who clearly wants to be human, but has to obey-the-systems!

Well yes the video would need to be played for the user to see or hear such language. But it's still ideal for a warning and a spoiler to be placed so if the user doesn't want to at any time hear that language than they don't have to and then they are aware it contains the bad language due to the warning and spoiler the video has. I think If the new idea gets implemented than there won't be a problem with users being told off for "forgetting to add a spoiler", although that depends on how it gets added into it.


I agree, I honestly think if there was a button just under the "paste video url" saying "Tick this box if this is mild 18+ content etc" it's not that I'm lazy I just forget and seeing that underneath wouldn't only save me time but would help me remember I need to had spoilers.

The suggestion about the tick box sounds ideal to be honest.

[GommeInc]

But it's still ideal for a warning and a spoiler to be placed so if the user doesn't want to at any time hear that language than they don't have to and then they are aware it contains the bad language due to the warning and spoiler the video has.
But it won't play unless you make it play, so they won't hear the video unless they click the play button :P The spoiler seems a bit of an unnecessary measure in most circumstances where the title of the video and the preview picture are the only bits that will need a spoiler. If the title and the preview picture are fine, then I don't think moderators should waste their time telling members to add it to a spoiler, just because it has swearing somewhere in the middle of the video which only people who have clicked play will see and know about.

[Catzsy]

I didnt twist anything, more how i interpreted what you said. It's not just because we've been on the forum forever (which honestly should be a big factor, we know this forum, our contributions should honestly be heard instead of being instantly dismissed), but its the MAJORITY. And not going to change ? why the hell not? If the majority want it, why not? This is the stupidest answer i've EVER seen. My god.

Niamh - there has been no evidence on the forum ever that the majority want it - just a few determind people tbh and also nobody has ever said the forum is a 'democracy'. It is up to those who own the forum in the end not the members even if it is a 'majority'. The listening part though is a given, providing it is not the same old record being played over and over again. This thread does seem to have sparked off something new though! :)


I agree, I honestly think if there was a button just under the "paste video url" saying "Tick this box if this is mild 18+ content etc" it's not that I'm lazy I just forget and seeing that underneath wouldn't only save me time but would help me remember I need to had spoilers.

This is a great idea except for the 'mild 18 + content' which is not allowed now and I am sure never would be. :P


Mildly inappropriate content (never anything rated 18+) is allowed where sufficient warning is added into the post and the image or link is placed within a spoiler. The final decision on what is or is not inappropriate is at the Moderator's discretion

[Richie]

Niamh - there has been no evidence on the forum ever that the majority want it - just a few determind people tbh and also nobody has ever said the forum is a 'democracy'. It is up to those who own the forum in the end not the members even if it is a 'majority'. The listening part though is a given, providing it is not the same old record being played over and over again. This thread does seem to have sparked off something new though! :)



This is a great idea except for the 'mild 18 + content' which is not allowed now and I am sure never would be. :P

Well that's a little contradicting considering some kids aren't allowed say **** so I'd imagine their parents deem it rude and inappropriate their parents can't tell them not to swear when they're 18 as they're an adult so in some sense it is 18+


Niamh - there has been no evidence on the forum ever that the majority want it - just a few determind people tbh and also nobody has ever said the forum is a 'democracy'. It is up to those who own the forum in the end not the members even if it is a 'majority'. The listening part though is a given, providing it is not the same old record being played over and over again. This thread does seem to have sparked off something new though! :)



This is a great idea except for the 'mild 18 + content' which is not allowed now and I am sure never would be. :P

Well that's a little contradicting considering some kids aren't allowed say **** so I'd imagine their parents deem it rude and inappropriate their parents can't tell them not to swear when they're 18 as they're an adult so in some sense it is 18+

[The Don]

:S Think you've totally twisted my words? Some people seem to think because they've been on the forum a long time we should just do everything we are told to do. There isn't going to be a poll put up because it's not going to change lol.

I didn't realise habboxforum was a dictatorship

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Would you rather we just stopped you from posting videos that contain swearing? We allow you to post videos that swear in a spoiler as well as post images that contain mild swearing in spoilers as it avoids the filter. The rule is there as they avoid the filter but videos are allowed to be posted as longs they are in a spoiler.

No, we'd rather be allowed to post a video which contains one swear word without moderators jumping down your throat, skipping with joy that they have another warning to add to the tally. Honestly, I didn't even realise there was a swear word in that song, next thing I know, I've got a warning pm and my post has been edited, it's over the top, especially when were a fansite based around habbo, which has realised what the majority want, a language filter, and has actually implemented it. Where as you wont even do a poll, simply because you don't want it to change for some unknown reason.

[scott]

I didn't realise habboxforum was a dictatorship

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No, we'd rather be allowed to post a video which contains one swear word without moderators jumping down your throat, skipping with joy that they have another warning to add to the tally. Honestly, I didn't even realise there was a swear word in that song, next thing I know, I've got a warning pm and my post has been edited, it's over the top, especially when were a fansite based around habbo, which has realised what the majority want, a language filter, and has actually implemented it. Where as you wont even do a poll, simply because you don't want it to change for some unknown reason.

You got a PM reminding you to put any videos that contain mild swearing in a spoiler? It wasn't a warning, it was a PM reminding you that's completely different from a warning.

I wasn't going to make a poll because we aren't going to remove the fact that peopled need to add a warning that the video contains swearing? Also at the end of the thread I did post saying that we are going to try and make it so when a video is posted that it automatically includes a warning which will hopefully resolve the issue.

[Catzsy]

Well that's a little contradicting considering some kids aren't allowed say **** so I'd imagine their parents deem it rude and inappropriate their parents can't tell them not to swear when they're 18 as they're an adult so in some sense it is 18+


Well that's not what is normally meant by 18+ :P I would compare it to the film censorship board which issues certificates for each different age group and it's more applicable to inappropriate content.

[Richie]

Well that's not what is normally meant by 18+ :P

That's what I was referring to though :P

[Catzsy]

That's what I was referring to though :P

See my edit. :) Another example is mild swearing used before the TV watershed. Hardcore swearing is never allowed until after.

[Richie]

in fairness though sct moderation has got stricter for some reason, inser was saying the system changed where everything is based on mod reports which is ridiculous they're going to want to warn anyone for anything to get their mod report up.

[The Don]

You got a PM reminding you to put any videos that contain mild swearing in a spoiler? It wasn't a warning, it was a PM reminding you that's completely different from a warning.


"Please make sure this does not happen again, or further action could be taken."

Sounds quite like a warning, doesn't it? and if that isn't a warning, it should be worded differently.



I wasn't going to make a poll because we aren't going to remove the fact that peopled need to add a warning that the video contains swearing? Also at the end of the thread I did post saying that we are going to try and make it so when a video is posted that it automatically includes a warning which will hopefully resolve the issue.

We wanted a poll on a completely different issue. A lot of people seem to want an optional filter on the forum, that's what the poll was in regards to.

[Catzsy]

in fairness though sct moderation has got stricter for some reason, inser was saying the system changed where everything is based on mod reports which is ridiculous they're going to want to warn anyone for anything to get their mod report up.

I haven't noticed it and I would hope that mods are into moderation and not chasing mod logs just for the sake of it. Mod logs have been used ever since I started as a mod so nothing is different there. More emphasis has been taken in recent time to interact with the forum and
help members. Occasionally a mistake is made but we are all human and it is a learning curve.
Tbh compared with times gone by I would say we do not issue 20% of the warnings and infractions that we used too. I remember when there were no pms, multiple posting was a warning/infraction category and a permanent ban was after 10 infractions! Infractions did not expire at all then it was changed for 6 months. These days there are lots of chances - warnings and infractions expire after two months so you really have to go some to be permanently banned. I guess it was the 'good old days' though. :P

[xxMATTGxx]

in fairness though sct moderation has got stricter for some reason, inser was saying the system changed where everything is based on mod reports which is ridiculous they're going to want to warn anyone for anything to get their mod report up.


Since when has moderation got stricter? Considering the department has had reports since I was there as a Forum Moderator which was back in 2008. I do not believe moderation has got stricter at all, it has changed over the years to adapt with new changes but it hasn't been made stricter. I think we have been move lenient these days than we may of done a few years ago. Obviously I doubt you and some others will agree but we certainly haven't made it stricter.

Moderators should not be handing out warnings/infractions just to get their mod reports looking fantastic, if they did then they would be told about it and punished as that's not acceptable at all.


"Please make sure this does not happen again, or further action could be taken."

Sounds quite like a warning, doesn't it?


That's just stating if you break the rule again than further action could be taken against you. There is nothing wrong with saying that even in a reminder PM.

[Richie]

Since when has moderation got stricter? Considering the department has had reports since I was there as a Forum Moderator which was back in 2008. I do not believe moderation has got stricter at all, it has changed over the years to adapt with new changes but it hasn't been made stricter at all. I think we have been move lenient these days than we may of done a few years ago. Obviously I doubt you and some others will agree but we certainly haven't made it stricter.

Moderators should not be handing out warnings/infractions just to get their mod reports looking fantastic, if they did then they would be told about it and punished as that's not acceptable at all.



That's just stating if you break the rule again than further action could be taken against you. There is nothing wrong with saying that even in a reminder PM.

How the hell does that work? Over the past few days I have got 4 warnings, 3 of those where wrongly given and removed from my account. All from the same mod and then you say this lol. You haven't got stricter? in the past moderators would ask me on msn or vm in a friendly manor to add a spoiler to my videos rather than send me a formal warning which akeam has pointed out makes one feel like they've received a warning.

[The Don]

That's just stating if you break the rule again than further action could be taken against you. There is nothing wrong with saying that even in a reminder PM.

But then that's a warning, isn't it. If it's a reminder pm it should be worded differently and friendlier such as "Please make sure you follow the forum rules in future! :)" rather than "or further action could be taken." because that seems to change the tone of the message.

[xxMATTGxx]

How the hell does that work? Over the past few days I have got 4 warnings, 3 of those where wrongly given and removed from my account. All from the same mod and then you say this lol. You haven't got stricter? in the past moderators would ask me on msn or vm in a friendly manor to add a spoiler to my videos rather than send me a formal warning which akeam has pointed out makes one feel like they've received a warning.

Punishment doesn't always include firing someone from the department. So how would you know if they have been punished or not? You shouldn't expect moderators to do it for you or for them to tell you because you may of "simply forgotten". It's a rule which you should follow and if you break so many times than surely you should expect to be punished? Also looking on your account you have been contacted via PM about the spoiler and not an warning/infraction. (Not the ones that may of been removed from your account)

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But then that's a warning, isn't it. If it's a reminder pm it should be worded like Please make sure you follow the forum rules in future! :)" rather than "or further action could be taken." because that seems to change the tone of the message.

It's just telling you that if you break the rule again than further action can be taken, it's not a big deal. A warning would be on your profile with a yellow icon/image.

[Catzsy]

How the hell does that work? Over the past few days I have got 4 warnings, 3 of those where wrongly given and removed from my account. All from the same mod and then you say this lol. You haven't got stricter? in the past moderators would ask me on msn or vm in a friendly manor to add a spoiler to my videos rather than send me a formal warning which akeam has pointed out makes one feel like they've received a warning.

I am not sure if that is true as this is a 'blind spot' of yours. I have often sent you a pm to say I have added a warning and a spoiler to a video. :)

[The Don]

It's just telling you that if you break the rule again than further action can be taken, it's not a big deal. A warning would be on your profile with a yellow icon/image.

Well I thought it was a warning pm :P. It didn't seem like a friendly reminder if i'm honest.

[Nick]

Well, this is habbox forum :) rules are rules but the question is does it matter if it is in a spoiler or not? No one is stopping you from watching it. I have put songs that have had swearing in them and I had pms also but I learnt to really just get over it and luckly the expire.

[scott]

"Please make sure this does not happen again, or further action could be taken."

Sounds quite like a warning, doesn't it? and if that isn't a warning, it should be worded differently.



We wanted a poll on a completely different issue. A lot of people seem to want an optional filter on the forum, that's what the poll was in regards to.

It isn't a warning, it's a PM reminding you of the rules and if you do continue to break it then further action may be taken as you have been reminded the rule exists and if you continue to break it then you can't come back and say 'I didn't know about that rule' as you've been contacted and told about it.

Also i'm sure the poll wasn't about having an optional filter? That's been discussed in a completely different thread and that's something else that was said wont be happening by previous management and I stand by that opinion for the same reasons they did.


How the hell does that work? Over the past few days I have got 4 warnings, 3 of those where wrongly given and removed from my account. All from the same mod and then you say this lol. You haven't got stricter? in the past moderators would ask me on msn or vm in a friendly manor to add a spoiler to my videos rather than send me a formal warning which akeam has pointed out makes one feel like they've received a warning.

Let me just say you've had no warnings, they are PM reminders. They are completely different things. Moderators don't give warnings or infractions out just to boost their moderator reports, in fact the amount of warnings/infractions that are being issued has dropped a hell of a lot since last year.

[Richie]

Punishment doesn't always include firing someone from the department. So how would you know if they have been punished or not? You shouldn't expect moderators to do it for you or for them to tell you because you may of "simply forgotten". It's a rule which you should follow and if you break so many times than surely you should expect to be punished? Also looking on your account you have been contacted via PM about the spoiler and not an warning/infraction. (Not the ones that may of been removed from your account)

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It's just telling you that if you break the rule again than further action can be taken, it's not a big deal. A warning would be on your profile with a yellow icon/image.

Why should I receive a pm for not adding a spoiler even though I added a warning? As most have said the video doesn't automatically play.

[xxMATTGxx]

Why should I receive a pm for not adding a spoiler even though I added a warning? As most have said the video doesn't automatically play.

To remind you of the rule and to remind you that you should add such videos into spoilers.

[Richie]

It isn't a warning, it's a PM reminding you of the rules and if you do continue to break it then further action may be taken as you have been reminded the rule exists and if you continue to break it then you can't come back and say 'I didn't know about that rule' as you've been contacted and told about it.



Let me just say you've had no warnings, they are PM reminders. They are completely different things. Moderators don't give warnings or infractions out just to boost their moderator reports, in fact the amount of warnings/infractions that are being issued has dropped a hell of a lot since last year.

Perhaps for some but not for me I haven't got warnings / pms regularly until a few weeks ago and I haven't acted differently or made any additional mistakes. As for moderators not giving warnings or infractions to boost their reports, you don't know that.. Sure you can see the reports however they don't point out I HAVE WARNING THIS PERSON BECAUSE I WANT TO BOOST MY REPORT.

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To remind you of the rule and to remind you that you should add such videos into spoilers.

Why should I have to add a spoiler though?

[scott]

Perhaps for some but not for me I haven't got warnings / pms regularly until a few weeks ago and I haven't acted differently or made any additional mistakes. As for moderators not giving warnings or infractions to boost their reports, you don't know that.. Sure you can see the reports however they don't point out I HAVE WARNING THIS PERSON BECAUSE I WANT TO BOOST MY REPORT.

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Why should I have to add a spoiler though?

No but if I or any other Super moderators or general management feel that a warning/infraction that has been issued is too harsh and not worthy of it then it will be reversed and removed from your account. I can assure you that moderators don't give out warnings or infractions just to boost their moderator reports.

[The Don]

It isn't a warning, it's a PM reminding you of the rules and if you do continue to break it then further action may be taken as you have been reminded the rule exists and if you continue to break it then you can't come back and say 'I didn't know about that rule' as you've been contacted and told about it.

But why can't you make it seem friendlier, I felt like I pulled off the heist of the century because I posted a song, which contained one swear word, which I didn't know about, and didn't put it in a spoiler then add a warning on top of that. I'm pretty sure that a reminder just saying "hey blahblahblah. Just so you know, i've added a spoiler to your video as it contained swearing, as we don't want younger members being offended by the content, could you make sure you're more careful in the future. Thanks :) Regards blahblahblah" rather than "this is against the rules so don't do this again"

[Richie]

Infractions / warnings should have a template there is no need for the "friendly" pms to have a template, I can't see why it's like this other than laziness.

[GommeInc]

To remind you of the rule and to remind you that you should add such videos into spoilers.
But why do you have to use spoilers, when a warning is sufficient? Videos do not play automatically, they require the end user to click play, and by clicking play you're accepting your fate and are now watching the video. The spoiler is an unnecessary extra step which should only ever be taken when the video title and preview image contant inappropriate content.


But why can't you make it seem friendlier, I felt like I pulled off the heist of the century because I posted a song, which contained one swear word, which I didn't know about, and didn't put it in a spoiler then add a warning on top of that. I'm pretty sure that a reminder just saying "hey blahblahblah. Just so you know, i've added a spoiler to your video as it contained swearing, as we don't want younger members being offended by the content, could you make sure you're more careful in the future. Thanks :) Regards blahblahblah" rather than "this is against the rules so don't do this again"
I hate the robotic response, they get abuse from me when ever I get a warning because I hate talking to someone who thinks they're either a robot or working on an executive forum. The friendlier response is always good and gets moderators out of trouble. It is a fansite forum afterall, they should understand their demographic and work with it, not against it.

[xxMATTGxx]

Perhaps for some but not for me I haven't got warnings / pms regularly until a few weeks ago and I haven't acted differently or made any additional mistakes. As for moderators not giving warnings or infractions to boost their reports, you don't know that.. Sure you can see the reports however they don't point out I HAVE WARNING THIS PERSON BECAUSE I WANT TO BOOST MY REPORT.

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Why should I have to add a spoiler though?

I'm pretty sure that was already answered in this thread.

[Richie]

I'm pretty sure that was already answered in this thread.


I haven't seen anything about it :S maybe you should just explain it again.

[The Don]

I hate the robotic response, they get abuse from me when ever I get a warning because I hate talking to someone who thinks they're either a robot or working on an executive forum. The friendlier response is always good and gets moderators out of trouble. It is a fansite forum afterall, they should understand their demographic and work with it, not against it.

Agreed. Maybe this is another topic which should be brought up. It wouldn't take long to write a friendly paragraph, rather than copy and paste a template, then change the name, especially considering for different occasions it requires a different tone, such as someone constantly posting explicit material, compared to someone posting one video with moderate language, it seems unfair that they both receive the same reminder PM.

[Richie]

What annoys me is why does everything have to be so formal and strict when we are all just here to have fun and the warnings / infractions takes away that fun. Sure, fun should go to some extent but sometimes mistakes are made, they don't need to be told off for something petty that really isn't hurting anyone. 90% of the things warned / infracted on a daily basis, do you honestly think other users are genuinely annoyed or upset by it? because I don't. If they are I'd advise you to send the ones reporting the post / warning the person a pm advising them to go out and get a bit of fresh air.

[xxMATTGxx]

When you post videos, they are larger than the warning. So the first thing any member will see is the actual video and will most likely just go and click it regardless. If videos or other such content is posted under a spoiler and a warning added, they will not see the video first but the warning and the spoiler which makes it needed to be done.

The rule is also:
Mildly inappropriate content (never anything rated 18+) is allowed where sufficient warning is added into the post and the image or link is placed within a spoiler.

So it's not just youtube videos, it goes for images and links. We won't be getting rid of the spoiler but we will make it easier for you not to forget to add it with the suggestion a few of the members posted in one of the recent feedback threads.

[Catzsy]

Why should I receive a pm for not adding a spoiler even though I added a warning? As most have said the video doesn't automatically play.

Because that is what the rules say at this time. :)

[GommeInc]

When you post videos, they are larger than the warning. So the first thing any member will see is the actual video and will most likely just go and click it regardless. If videos or other such content is posted under a spoiler and a warning added, they will not see the video first but the warning and the spoiler which makes it needed to be done.
Come now, red writing isn't overlooked at the size it's posted - should you even be concluding this on assumptions? If bold, red writing was overlooked then moderator warnings in the past must of been overlooked all the time.

[Richie]

When you post videos, they are larger than the warning. So the first thing any member will see is the actual video and will most likely just go and click it regardless. If videos or other such content is posted under a spoiler and a warning added, they will not see the video first but the warning and the spoiler which makes it needed to be done.

The rule is also:
Mildly inappropriate content (never anything rated 18+) is allowed where sufficient warning is added into the post and the image or link is placed within a spoiler.

So it's not just youtube videos, it goes for images and links. We won't be getting rid of the spoiler but we will make it easier for you not to forget to add it with the suggestion a few of the members posted in one of the recent feedback threads.

That's such a lame excuse. The reality of it is they would click the spoiler anyway. After all you always refer to 90% of the forum as "children" if you were to say to a child "see that big red button on the wall, don't press it" what do you think they're going to do? If the text is red and bold you can always see the warning just above the video.

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Because that is what the rules say at this time. :)

Well obviously :P my question is why is it in the rules? It's just unnecessary.

[Catzsy]

That's such a lame excuse. The reality of it is they would click the spoiler anyway. After all you always refer to 90% of the forum as "children" if you were to say to a child "see that big red button on the wall, don't press it" what do you think they're going to do? If the text is red and bold you can always see the warning just above the video.

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Well obviously :P my question is why is it in the rules? It's just unnecessary.

Well that is what is being debated. :P :D

[HotelUser]

This is getting old now, Richard. We are adding the automatic spoiler feature, and your avoiding the filter usernote (again not infraction or warning) has been reversed. Be happy with that.

We will not be changing the filter or allowing videos without adequate warning, period.

[xxMATTGxx]

That's such a lame excuse. The reality of it is they would click the spoiler anyway. After all you always refer to 90% of the forum as "children" if you were to say to a child "see that big red button on the wall, don't press it" what do you think they're going to do? If the text is red and bold you can always see the warning just above the video.

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Well obviously :P my question is why is it in the rules? It's just unnecessary.

Not really lame, it makes sense. I also don't see why people wanting this changed, no one gets a warning or an infraction added to their account UNLESS they repeatedly break the rule. If you have forgotten to put a warning and a spoiler than a moderator will do that but they will also remind you of the rule to make sure you don't do it again. I don't see the problem in them doing that what so ever.

The spoiler is needed for the reasons I've posted, regardless if you think it is lame or not. There is no need to change it and we won't be changing it.

[The Don]

This is getting old now, Richard. We are adding the automatic spoiler feature, and your avoiding the filter usernote (again not infraction or warning) has been reversed. Be happy with that.

We will not be changing the filter or allowing videos without adequate warning, period.

If you are doing this, can you make it so in the spoiler of the video, it says above it "may contain swearing/adult content"

[scott]

If you are doing this, can you make it so in the spoiler of the video, it says above it "may contain swearing/adult content"

That is what we are doing, yes.

[The Don]

That is good then.

P.S
The yes was unnecessary ;)

[Richie]

This is getting old now, Richard. We are adding the automatic spoiler feature, and your avoiding the filter usernote (again not infraction or warning) has been reversed. Be happy with that.

We will not be changing the filter or allowing videos without adequate warning, period.

I'm pretty sure I have good reason to complain if I have been wrongly sent a usernote on three occasions in the last week. The funny thing is I haven't seen one person take managements side in any of these threads, so I'm assuming they're on the other ship. Oh and David I think you're missing a point. No-one has said they want to abolish the warnings they are arguing that the spoiler is pointless. I'm all for the warning above videos I'm just not for putting videos in spoilers.

[Catzsy]

I'm pretty sure I have good reason to complain if I have been wrongly sent a usernote on three occasions in the last week. The funny thing is I haven't seen one person take managements side in any of these threads, so I'm assuming they're on the other ship. Oh and David I think you're missing a point. No-one has said they want to abolish the warnings they are arguing that the spoiler is pointless. I'm all for the warning above videos I'm just not for putting videos in spoilers.

As far as I can see Richie all your complaints have been addressed here and sorted. Looks like the spoiler issue is sorted too. Why not just wait and see what happens from now on and come back if you feel there is still a problem? :)

[Richie]

As far as I can see Richie all your complaints have been addressed here and sorted. Looks like the spoiler issue is sorted too. Why not just wait and see what happens from now on and come back if you feel there is still a problem? :)

They may have been addressed but not sorted. Matt hasn't got any relevant reasons to continue making us use the spoiler for videos that contains swearing yet he insists it still gets used.

[Catzsy]

They may have been addressed but not sorted. Matt hasn't got any relevant reasons to continue making us use the spoiler for videos that contains swearing yet he insists it still gets used.

Well that is his prerogative as GM and you actually suggested the tick box! :P Is it really that much of a big deal when all things are considered, Richie? Life is not always fair. :P What has come out of this is an excellent idea from you which will be implemented and save the mod department time and trouble and help the members.

[Richie]

Well that is his prerogative as GM and you actually suggested the tick box! :P Is it really that much of a big deal when all things are considered, Richie? Life is not always fair. :P What has come out of this is an excellent idea from you which will be implemented and save the mod department time and trouble and help the members.

Making terrible decisions that are meaningless and the majority of the users disagree with? No-one is saying allow swearing and if an image contains inappropriate content, put it in a spoiler. I don't agree with how he wants us to put the video in a spoiler when it clearly makes no sense and gomme makes a good point, if the bold red text doesn't stand out for video warnings what makes you think it stands out for moderator edits?

[Catzsy]

Making terrible decisions that are meaningless and the majority of the users disagree with? No-one is saying allow swearing and if an image contains inappropriate content, put it in a spoiler. I don't agree with how he wants us to put the video in a spoiler when it clearly makes no sense and gomme makes a good point, if the bold red text doesn't stand out for video warnings what makes you think it stands out for moderator edits?

Well I don't think his decision is terrible but we are all entitled to our views I guess. I just think the point has been well made and considered.

[AgnesIO]

If i had a euro every time someone said this I could buy habbo. You remind me of someone out of coronation street.

Na, your euro would be/is worthless.

I really don't see why this is needed - it is a spoiler, get over it. Habbox doesn't want to set a bad example, or give parents ANY reason to contact Hx (I believe some parents have in the past according to previous members of management/Jin).

Also, perhaps users don't report posts just because they are '****s' - perhaps they realise it is against the forum rules, and while it is against the forum rules the post can and probably should be reported.

Honestly, you had a go at me for making pointless threads not long back.. :P

[Zak]

I always thought that when you told kids not to look, especially when using text like *don't looking here, inappropriate content* they're more likely to look. :P

Majority of what I saw through out this thread was users complaining and staff defending... problems, I think so! :P

[Mathew]

I always thought that when you told kids not to look, especially when using text like *don't looking here, inappropriate content* they're more likely to look. :P
lol, this is indeed the case. There has been various studies on this actually, but the one which comes straight to my head is the one which Derren Brown performed and televised. Absolutely brilliant.


Majority of what I saw through out this thread was users complaining and staff defending... problems, I think so! :P
Welcome to Habbox! :)

[David]

lol, this is indeed the case. There has been various studies on this actually, but the one which comes straight to my head is the one which Derren Brown performed and televised. Absolutely brilliant.

Was that a TV Special :S I don't remember that.

To stay on-topic I agree with this, a few people have said that in this thread :P

[Mathew]

Was that a TV Special :S I don't remember that.

To stay on-topic I agree with this, a few people have said that in this thread :P
Yeah, I think it was on the Trick or Treat thing he did. There were clips where he told some primary school children to avoid pressing the button to a box but they all did because they couldn't help it. When they pressed it, a jack-in-a-box popped out with flour, making a mess; the kids tried to make Derren think that a big hand came out and did it.. :P

The main part of the show was where a woman was left in a low-lit room with a kitten in a glass box. She tried to resist pushing the button to give it an electric shock, but Derren had made her feel like a child (offering drawing pad... orange juice.. etc) so she pressed it! :P Quite interesting and probably on 4od.

[David]

Yeah, I think it was on the Trick or Treat thing he did. There were clips where he told some primary school children to avoid pressing the button to a box but they all did because they couldn't help it. When they pressed it, a jack-in-a-box popped out with flour, making a mess; the kids tried to make Derren think that a big hand came out and did it.. :P

The main part of the show was where a woman was left in a low-lit room with a kitten in a glass box. She tried to resist pushing the button to give it an electric shock, but Derren had made her feel like a child (offering drawing pad... orange juice.. etc) so she pressed it! :P Quite interesting and probably on 4od.

Ahhhhh, I remember it now. I'm gonna watch it :D I have every one of his shows downloaded, lol. He's a genius.

Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make off topic posts!

[Richie]

Na, your euro would be/is worthless.

I really don't see why this is needed - it is a spoiler, get over it. Habbox doesn't want to set a bad example, or give parents ANY reason to contact Hx (I believe some parents have in the past according to previous members of management/Jin).

Also, perhaps users don't report posts just because they are '****s' - perhaps they realise it is against the forum rules, and while it is against the forum rules the post can and probably should be reported.

Honestly, you had a go at me for making pointless threads not long back.. :P

Which I admitted I was wrong and apologized :S I'm entitled to an opinion and to complain as much as you are.

[AgnesIO]

Which I admitted I was wrong and apologized :S I'm entitled to an opinion and to complain as much as you are.

When did I question that? It might be an opinion, but with your recent moans about things to do with filtered language etc - it just seems to bloody stupid. If I am entitled to my opinion, why did you -rep me for it? Please explain, I would LOVE an explanation.

[Richie]

When did I question that? It might be an opinion, but with your recent moans about things to do with filtered language etc - it just seems to bloody stupid. If I am entitled to my opinion, why did you -rep me for it? Please explain, I would LOVE an explanation.

You are entitled to an opinion :S one which I didn't agree with.

[HotelUser]

You are entitled to an opinion :S one which I didn't agree with.


I'm pretty sure I have good reason to complain if I have been wrongly sent a usernote on three occasions in the last week. The funny thing is I haven't seen one person take managements side in any of these threads, so I'm assuming they're on the other ship. Oh and David I think you're missing a point. No-one has said they want to abolish the warnings they are arguing that the spoiler is pointless. I'm all for the warning above videos I'm just not for putting videos in spoilers.

I employ you to look at this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=706019&p=7156073&highlight=#post7156073), this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=705994&p=7155792&highlight=#post7155792) or this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=7156471#post7156471) where I point out three times that we're going to be adding a plugin that adds proper warnings to videos. Everything doesn't have to be negativity, guns and blowing down doors all the time Richard. You're seemingly making an issue out of something that's not an issue because we've already said we're going to change it. I cannot begin to fathom how silly this situation has now been blown out of proportion by yourself :P

[Richie]

I employ you to look at this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=706019&p=7156073&highlight=#post7156073), this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=705994&p=7155792&highlight=#post7155792) or this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?p=7156471#post7156471) where I point out three times that we're going to be adding a plugin that adds proper warnings to videos. Everything doesn't have to be negativity, guns and blowing down doors all the time Richard. You're seemingly making an issue out of something that's not an issue because we've already said we're going to change it. I cannot begin to fathom how silly this situation has now been blown out of proportion by yourself :P

I would of left it be if others didn't quote me, if someone quotes me arguing whether it has been dealt with or not I'm going to defend my point.

[AgnesIO]

I would of left it be if others didn't quote me, if someone quotes me arguing whether it has been dealt with or not I'm going to defend my point.

Oh sorry, I didn't realise we are not supposed to quote people with our opinions in feedback.

Sorry my mistake :)

[Richie]

Oh sorry, I didn't realise we are not supposed to quote people with our opinions in feedback.

Sorry my mistake :)

Here man you need to relax, I'm just telling David why I continued arguing I'm not saying you can't give your opinion. I didn't realise a -rep would make you so upset, Jesus if you're going to cry about it tell Scott I said I made a mistake and get it removed.

[AgnesIO]

Here man you need to relax, I'm just telling David why I continued arguing I'm not saying you can't give your opinion. I didn't realise a -rep would make you so upset, Jesus if you're going to cry about it tell Scott I said I made a mistake and get it removed.

You don't seem to get it :P

It isn't the -rep, it is the hypocritical stuff - I haven't reported the rep and have no intention to do so!

[Richie]

You don't seem to get it :P

It isn't the -rep, it is the hypocritical stuff - I haven't reported the rep and have no intention to do so!

Can I just clear something up for the 12th time? I was WRONG for moaning about you making threads in feedback in the past and I even apologized which i very rarely do to anyone because I am stubborn.