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Mickword
18-07-2011, 08:14 PM
Right, so I wanna have a flat chest lol, but I seriously wouldn't know where to start. I weight around 12/13 stone and I'm like 5.9, but I wanna be around 8... I've already lost around 2 - 4 stone when I was on these pills for my skin. But I wanna loose more weight, anyone got any GOOD and HELPFUL advice lol?

Matthew
18-07-2011, 08:51 PM
go for a run

FlyingJesus
18-07-2011, 09:01 PM
First you wanna set yourself a more realistic target weight, and then shop around for diet plans and exercise routines that you don't mind doing - there's no point signing up for anything you really hate as you won't stick with it and the weight will just pile back on. Exercise and dieting are BOTH vital, if you just go for one you won't have healthy weight loss

Hollie.
18-07-2011, 09:21 PM
Only eat 3 healthy meals a day and doing that you will loose weight but to loose it quicker do exercise aswell.

Mickword
18-07-2011, 09:49 PM
go for a run

Oh mat :P


First you wanna set yourself a more realistic target weight, and then shop around for diet plans and exercise routines that you don't mind doing - there's no point signing up for anything you really hate as you won't stick with it and the weight will just pile back on. Exercise and dieting are BOTH vital, if you just go for one you won't have healthy weight loss


Only eat 3 healthy meals a day and doing that you will loose weight but to loose it quicker do exercise aswell.

Thanks both :)

Shar
19-07-2011, 01:27 PM
No snacking between meals, balanced diet, regular exercise - maybe make a workout plan? Stick to these for a couple of months instead of making it into a one off to actually see it working. :)

Spuds
19-07-2011, 01:34 PM
You want to lose it from your chest? Do some chest workouts in the gym. Obviously you need to run, combined with cycling would be good to work your legs. Although if it's simply your chest swimming would also be good.

Aidenn
19-07-2011, 02:02 PM
I wouldnt avoid snacking completely between meals as a few users are saying.

Why? because if you starve your body for long periods of time you wont loose weight at all, if anything you'll put weight on, you wont be burning fat in the time your starving yourself between meals, instead your be burning muscle (your body will burn muscle instead of fat because it will give it more of what your body needs)

When i say snack i dont be binge up on chocolate, sweets etc.

Eat fruit. Apples are highly reccomended when loosing weight - The fact that an average apple counts as roughly 30% of your GDA of fibre (which helps the rate you digest foods and also helps your metabolism).

Apples also produce something called 'Pectim' its virtually a sticky substance that flows through your blood, which also helps lower your cholestral levels.

Drink Water; Again if your well hydrated loosing weight should be swift, aim for a minimum of 3 litres a day.

Good luck =].

Shar
19-07-2011, 02:04 PM
I wouldnt avoid snacking completely between meals as a few users are saying.

Why? because if you starve your body for long periods of time you wont loose weight at all, if anything you'll put weight on, you wont be burning fat in the time your starving yourself between meals, instead your be burning muscle (your body will burn muscle instead of fat because it will give it more of what your body needs)

When i say snack i dont be binge up on chocolate, sweets etc.

Eat fruit. Apples are highly reccomended when loosing weight - The fact that an average apple counts as roughly 30% of your GDA of fibre (which helps the rate you digest foods and also helps your metabolism).

Apples also produce something called 'Pectim' its virtually a sticky substance that flows through your blood, which also helps lower your cholestral levels.

Drink Water; Again if your well hydrated loosing weight should be swift, aim for a minimum of 3 litres a day.

Good luck =].
I probably wasn't clear enough :P
When I say snacking I mean don't eat junk food such as chocolate and crisps, also try and avoid fast food.

Liam
19-07-2011, 02:08 PM
Eat less, exercise more.

/end of discussion.

Aidenn
19-07-2011, 02:17 PM
Eat less, exercise more.

/end of discussion.

Think you'll find your sadly mistaken.

You have no idea what hes currently eating therefore how can you tell him to 'eat less'

If your exercising more, youll need to eat the same (if its adequate) if not slightly more, if he eats alot less, he could drop below his daily metabolism needs therefore making him put more weight on.

Spuds
19-07-2011, 02:19 PM
Eat less, exercise more.

/end of discussion.
Oh really? Even if he decides to run twice a day, and cycle and swim when he can?

AgnesIO
19-07-2011, 02:21 PM
Bizarre question :S

The obvious answer is: exercise, have a balanced diet, don't snack in between meals? :S

Shar
19-07-2011, 02:22 PM
Eat less, exercise more.

/end of discussion.
That doesn't make sense? When you exercise more you get more hungry..

AgnesIO
19-07-2011, 02:23 PM
Eat less, exercise more.

/end of discussion.

"Eat less"

Erm, that is a possibility but he might be eating perfectly well?

Liam
19-07-2011, 02:28 PM
You have no idea what hes currently eating therefore how can you tell him to 'eat less'
By typing, "eat less"..

Oh really? Even if he decides to run twice a day, and cycle and swim when he can?
lulwut?

That doesn't make sense? When you exercise more you get more hungry..
Then your stomach rumbles, then it eats all of the fat which then makes you lose weight. aminotrite?

"Eat less"

Erm, that is a possibility but he might be eating perfectly well?
He could still eat less though, amirite?

AgnesIO
19-07-2011, 02:35 PM
By typing, "eat less"..

lulwut?

Then your stomach rumbles, then it eats all of the fat which then makes you lose weight. aminotrite?

He could still eat less though, amirite?

It is not healthy to eat less than you should.

Aidenn
19-07-2011, 02:42 PM
By typing, "eat less"..

lulwut?

Then your stomach rumbles, then it eats all of the fat which then makes you lose weight. aminotrite?

He could still eat less though, amirite?

Grow up, before you start taking the piss.


It is not healthy to eat less than you should.

Spot on as i said;


if he eats alot less, he could drop below his daily metabolism needs therefore making him put more weight on.

Also;


Then your stomach rumbles, then it eats all of the fat which then makes you lose weight. aminotrite?

LOL

Mickword
19-07-2011, 03:50 PM
Yeah sorry, wasn't clear enough. I eat about 1 maybe 2 meals a day. And I walk sort of a lot... but don't lose weight lol.

myke
19-07-2011, 03:57 PM
Yeah sorry, wasn't clear enough. I eat about 1 maybe 2 meals a day. And I walk sort of a lot... but don't lose weight lol.

record the intake of sat fat / calories etc for a while and it'll help you see if you have any foods which makes you put on weight, but just do as the others have said rly :)

buttons
19-07-2011, 04:21 PM
Yeah sorry, wasn't clear enough. I eat about 1 maybe 2 meals a day. And I walk sort of a lot... but don't lose weight lol.
eat more meals but smaller portions than you'd usually have, if I do that i find I'm not as hungry than if I was to eat 3 big meals. I do however eat a big breakfast so that I don't snack until lunch

Aidenn
19-07-2011, 04:24 PM
What Jen and Myke have said pretty much hits the nail on the head, also remember to keep an eye on your Sodium/Salt intake.

AgnesIO
19-07-2011, 05:23 PM
Yeah sorry, wasn't clear enough. I eat about 1 maybe 2 meals a day. And I walk sort of a lot... but don't lose weight lol.

That is unhealthy, you need breakfast, lunch and dinner - just have smaller portions.

cocaine
19-07-2011, 05:50 PM
well if he's overweight then logic dictates he eats more than he should, therefore eat less (i.e reduce your calorie intake by however much is neccessary) and excersise a bit more than you normally do.

and @ marketing, studies have shown that smaller, more regular meals stimulate the metabolism and aid with greater weight loss than just standard 3 meals a day

AgnesIO
19-07-2011, 06:14 PM
well if he's overweight then logic dictates he eats more than he should, therefore eat less (i.e reduce your calorie intake by however much is neccessary) and excersise a bit more than you normally do.

and @ marketing, studies have shown that smaller, more regular meals stimulate the metabolism and aid with greater weight loss than just standard 3 meals a day

People don't have time for more regular meals per day.

Iwas simply saying 'one meal a day' is like the worst thing you could do.

Deathix
19-07-2011, 06:22 PM
I suggest having regular exercise and eating healthy meals, keeping low on carbs and fat. Natural sugars such as those in fruit can also cause weight gain if you're not exercising your body. Due to the weight you currently are it might be impossible getting to the 8 stone figure as the fat you currently have can act as fuel for your muscles, therefore making your muscles bigger. Also muscle is more heavier then fat so although you may be over 8 stone, you can still have a flat chest. Also drink plenty of water - I recommend 2 liters a day to flush out the chemicals in your body. Everyone has seemed to cover everything... Some of the information I've provided could be a little wrong because I diet myself but putting on muscle instead of loosing weight, hope this helped.

J0SH
19-07-2011, 07:56 PM
Cardiovascular in the gym will help burn the fat and you also have to tighten your chest muscles to get some definition. Have a high protein low fat diet (it's filling, so you won't feel like snacking) however if you get the munchies just eat peanuts/fruit. If you crave fizzy drinks just drink sofa water. You gotta be disciplined :P

Spuds
19-07-2011, 08:47 PM
By typing, "eat less"..

lulwut?

Then your stomach rumbles, then it eats all of the fat which then makes you lose weight. aminotrite?

He could still eat less though, amirite?
You do realise if he starts running/cycling/swimming he'll need extra carbs for energy etc?

cocaine
19-07-2011, 10:33 PM
People don't have time for more regular meals per day.

Iwas simply saying 'one meal a day' is like the worst thing you could do.

employers and schools are legally obliged to give you breaks. unless he works solidly for 12 hours straight he will have time to eat more regularly

Shoe
20-07-2011, 12:39 AM
I really don't think it is a good idea to drop from 13 stone to like 8 ?? especially given the fact that if you do start exercising you will lose fat but should gain in muscle mass, therefore increase your weight.

When you exercise you will use up more energy than you would in a normal day, soo you need to eat the same amount, if not more...
Saying that, if you are already eating too much for what you are burning just from your resting metabolic rate then chances are you will be eating enough even when you do exercise.

I posted in a thread about losing belly fat with some calculations which would help you if you wanted to take a look. :)

Hope this helped x

Mickword
20-07-2011, 12:48 AM
Ok thanks, meh I'll just constantly have sex :P

J0SH
20-07-2011, 12:49 AM
Cardiovascular in the gym will help burn the fat and you also have to tighten your chest muscles to get some definition. Have a high protein low fat diet (it's filling, so you won't feel like snacking) however if you get the munchies just eat peanuts/fruit. If you crave fizzy drinks just drink sofa water. You gotta be disciplined :P

Soda water*

My bad.

Mickword
20-07-2011, 12:53 AM
Also, the thought of just eating 3 meals a day sickens me tbh :/

AgnesIO
20-07-2011, 08:43 AM
Also, the thought of just eating 3 meals a day sickens me tbh :/

Three meals or more smaller meals.

Or enjoy staying fat.

Mickword
20-07-2011, 11:37 AM
Never said I was fat...

FlyingJesus
20-07-2011, 11:54 AM
You do realise if he starts running/cycling/swimming he'll need extra carbs for energy etc?

You do realise that weight loss depends on burning more energy than you intake, right?


Never said I was fat...

Kinda did, you weigh 12 or 13 stone at 5'9, even at the lowest of that range (12 stone) you're borderline overweight

Oleh
20-07-2011, 11:56 AM
Eat 5 small meals a day, keep the calorie intake lower than calorie burn. Job done.

Mickword
20-07-2011, 07:58 PM
granted, but still i have had a lot of **** happened :P oh well

Spuds
21-07-2011, 09:10 AM
You do realise that weight loss depends on burning more energy than you intake, right?



Kinda did, you weigh 12 or 13 stone at 5'9, even at the lowest of that range (12 stone) you're borderline overweight
And you need energy for runs, swimming and cycling.

Kyran
22-07-2011, 02:29 PM
For losing weight I would stick to five, small and consistent meals. Also drink lots of water! Good luck buddy!

Zak
22-07-2011, 04:18 PM
Ok thanks, meh I'll just constantly have sex :P

Don't know about you, but it always knackers me out. :P


Never said I was fat...

I'm 6"2 and I weigh just under 13 stone, and I am no small guy! Weighing that at 5"9 wouldn't be major fat, but some tub must be there, post a pic!

&&& to be honest, I take all my tips from laura, who has also posted on here. & her advice has improved my strength and made me gain/lose weight in an appropriate way in accordance with what I wanted to achieve - I'd listen to her if I was you but that's up to you! (her name is 'shoe' on here).

Aidenn
22-07-2011, 05:20 PM
Don't know about you, but it always knackers me out. :P



I'm 6"2 and I weigh just under 13 stone, and I am no small guy! Weighing that at 5"9 wouldn't be major fat, but some tub must be there, post a pic!

&&& to be honest, I take all my tips from laura, who has also posted on here. & her advice has improved my strength and made me gain/lose weight in an appropriate way in accordance with what I wanted to achieve - I'd listen to her if I was you but that's up to you! (her name is 'shoe' on here).

Couldnt agree more ;p


I really don't think it is a good idea to drop from 13 stone to like 8 ?? especially given the fact that if you do start exercising you will lose fat but should gain in muscle mass, therefore increase your weight.

When you exercise you will use up more energy than you would in a normal day, soo you need to eat the same amount, if not more...
Saying that, if you are already eating too much for what you are burning just from your resting metabolic rate then chances are you will be eating enough even when you do exercise.

I posted in a thread about losing belly fat with some calculations which would help you if you wanted to take a look. :)

Hope this helped x

Discovered your post;
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=710285&p=7196536#post7196536

And it really does have alot of information, i could never normally know how much fat i needed daily (i managed to work out the protein i needed luckily :P) but this does offer alot of useful information.

Also Micheal...

Trust you to mention sex.

Funilly enough (rumour has it lololol) Sex burns the equvalent amount of calories as running a mile.
However im lazy, i dont run, nor do i jog..
I Skip.

10 minutes of Skipping burns the same amount of calories as a 30 minute jog :)

Good luck micheal.

Wig44.
22-07-2011, 09:40 PM
I wouldnt avoid snacking completely between meals as a few users are saying.

Why? because if you starve your body for long periods of time you wont loose weight at all, if anything you'll put weight on, you wont be burning fat in the time your starving yourself between meals, instead your be burning muscle (your body will burn muscle instead of fat because it will give it more of what your body needs)

When i say snack i dont be binge up on chocolate, sweets etc.

Eat fruit. Apples are highly reccomended when loosing weight - The fact that an average apple counts as roughly 30% of your GDA of fibre (which helps the rate you digest foods and also helps your metabolism).

Apples also produce something called 'Pectim' its virtually a sticky substance that flows through your blood, which also helps lower your cholestral levels.

Drink Water; Again if your well hydrated loosing weight should be swift, aim for a minimum of 3 litres a day.

Good luck =].

Oh for **** sake you've posted this drivel before. Catabolism (breakdown of muscle tissue for energy) and starvation do not occur after a few hours. Your metabolism increases over a 24-48 hour fast and eating more infrequently actually increases muscle mass... http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413096

Conclusion: Your advice to snack between meals is counterproductive - you've posted this crap before, please stop regurgitating rubbish you've read on the internet.

Also, it's pectin not pectim.

Wig44.
22-07-2011, 09:55 PM
People don't have time for more regular meals per day.

Iwas simply saying 'one meal a day' is like the worst thing you could do.

You're not the only person in this thread to have said this so I am by no means singling you out, just quoting you to say that this is a load of rubbish, infrequent meals (provided enough is eaten in that meal) are better than frequent meals. 1-2 meals a day (or the occasional 1 day fast) help maintain insulin sensitivity, stimulate muscle growth and testosterone levels and prevent excess insulin from: causing your blood glucose levels to fluctuate throughout the day and preventing satiety.

Special
22-07-2011, 10:50 PM
Only eat 3 healthy meals a day and doing that you will loose weight but to loose it quicker do exercise aswell.

defo DON'T do that, you need to have 6 small meals a day to keep your body working & your metabolism fast. if you just east 3 big meals a day your body will start to store that fat

6 small meals a day, a couple mile run per day (start with a walk on the first couple days, then jog for 2, then eventually run after about a week)

Wig44.
23-07-2011, 12:51 AM
defo DON'T do that, you need to have 6 small meals a day to keep your body working & your metabolism fast. if you just east 3 big meals a day your body will start to store that fat

6 small meals a day, a couple mile run per day (start with a walk on the first couple days, then jog for 2, then eventually run after about a week)

No, see my post above. I don't know why people like you feel compelled to spread ******** with no references to back it up.

Zak
23-07-2011, 02:26 AM
Wig do you find great pleasure attempting to put people down? People try and help with the knowledge they have, or have learned. Believe it or not you're not always right. It's a teenage forum, people aren't going to have advanced knowledge on the subject. All the drivel seems to be the actual proper way of doing it, simplest forms work well enough for me. Just stop being a **** to everyone....

Special
23-07-2011, 03:42 PM
No, see my post above. I don't know why people like you feel compelled to spread ******** with no references to back it up.


Eat small, frequent meals throughout the day. When you consume large meals 2 or 3 times a day your metabolism can actually slow and you can become lethargic. By spreading your calorie consumption evenly over a 24 hour period you keep your metabolism more active and you burn more calories.
http://www.ehow.com/how_4424709_keep-metabolism-running-fast.html


The fact that you gain weight easily is proof that your body likes to shift into fat-storage mode at the drop of a hat, and going too low on calories is one of the easiest ways to trigger that reaction (often referred to as starvation mode (http://www.sparkpeople.com/community/ask_the_experts.asp?q=58)). Don’t fall for the mistaken idea that the less you eat, the more you’ll lose—that’s just not how your body works. Staying within your recommended calorie range will keep your internal furnace stoked so that you have more capacity to burn stored fat.
http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/fitness_articles.asp?id=676


Eating 6 meals spread out over every 2-3 hours prevents overeating, Eating more frequently has been shown to boost your metabolism, thereby burning more calories
http://www.thehealthyeatingguide.com/6smallmealsaday.html

N!ck
23-07-2011, 07:10 PM
Eat less, exercise more. It really is that simple. Eating little and often helps too as it means your metabolism is constantly on he go.

If you burn more energy (kcals) than you consume you will lose weight. That's literally all there is to it.

Burning approx 3500 kcals more than you eat will lose you about a pound (a 14th of a stone) in weight.

Wig44.
23-07-2011, 09:25 PM
http://www.ehow.com/how_4424709_keep-metabolism-running-fast.html


http://www.sparkpeople.com/resource/fitness_articles.asp?id=676


http://www.thehealthyeatingguide.com/6smallmealsaday.html

None of them have references, making them completely worthless.

N!ck
23-07-2011, 09:52 PM
This might interest some of you. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

Special
23-07-2011, 10:28 PM
None of them have references, making them completely worthless.

what references are you looking for exactly

Wig44.
23-07-2011, 11:11 PM
This might interest some of you. http://edition.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html
He also consumed a protein shake and some vegetables each day, the thermic effect of these foods likely put his calories in at under the measured 1800, with such a deficit it's hardly surprising he lost weight.


what references are you looking for exactly
References. You know, where someone backs up each point they make with a (link to a) rigorous scientific study that anyone can scrutinise? Any body of work making claims w/o accessible references to back them up is worthless.

Shoe
23-07-2011, 11:26 PM
References. You know, where someone backs up each point they make with a (link to a) rigorous scientific study that anyone can scrutinise? Any body of work making claims w/o accessible references to back them up is worthless.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413096 - Like this ****** one you posted which you have done nothing more than use the pubmed website typed in a word like metabolism and found a good simple scientific lab report to basically copy off ?? Anyone can do this.

Wig44.
24-07-2011, 12:05 AM
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17413096 - Like this ****** one you posted which you have done nothing more than use the pubmed website typed in a word like metabolism and found a good simple scientific lab report to basically copy off ?? Anyone can do this.

I have provided scientific backing for one of my points. The fact that pubmed has been made very accessible doesn't detract from the fact that the study I linked proved my point. Incidentally, I didn't type metabolism into pubmed. Maybe if you did you wouldn't be wrong in every single one of your posts about health.

Shoe
24-07-2011, 12:14 AM
Would love to know how I am wrong in every post I have made ?? Considering I have even asked my lecturers about what I put for some things and they said that there was nothing wrong with what I put and in fact yes sometimes you were wrong. I don't have to prove anything to you considering you don't actually have much knowledge on the subject and you have just learnt it on the internet.

Wig44.
24-07-2011, 01:06 AM
Would love to know how I am wrong in every post I have made ?? Considering I have even asked my lecturers about what I put for some things and they said that there was nothing wrong with what I put and in fact yes sometimes you were wrong. I don't have to prove anything to you considering you don't actually have much knowledge on the subject and you have just learnt it on the internet.

Since you're acting all elitist on my wall I'd like to know what it is you are studying at university. I'd like to know where I was wrong and I'd like to know how the fact I don't study a subject at university but have done my own reading and can back up the points I make with references makes my opinion less valid than yours - also, how can you say I don't have much knowledge on 'the subject'? That's very presumptuous and incorrect.

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