Hall of fame

[The Don]

There should be a Habbox Hall of Fame, where it has a list of people who have made huge contributions to Habbox. Just thought it would be a nice little feature, there could be a criteria to get in and like past members would also be added such as mizki, it could also have forum milestones (e.g first user to reach the rank of Forum God or first member of habboxforum, all the past GM's)

[Zeptis]

I love the idea, Thumbs up on it, I would love to this addition.

[Inseriousity.]

I'm sure there was one but then every tom, **** and harry got added to it so they removed it with the intention of making it more unique to special contributors. maybe the content department's working on it but i wont say for definite cos im not 100% certain this is the case atm.

[The Don]

I'm sure there was one but then every tom, **** and harry got added to it so they removed it with the intention of making it more unique to special contributors. maybe the content department's working on it but i wont say for definite cos im not 100% certain this is the case atm.

I think you may be on about the merit award given on the forum? I'm on about an actual hall of fame page on habbox.

[Inseriousity.]

I think you may be on about the merit award given on the forum? I'm on about an actual hall of fame page on habbox.

Nope there was a hall of fame on habbox too with the same issue as the merit award. Obviously changing the criteria of a merit award is 100 times easier and quicker than a habbox hall of fame.

[Mathew]

There was a Habbox Hall of Fame page ages ago on the site yeah. Alex3213 was going to re-do it when he was a Content Designer but I can only assume he never got round to it. Shame really because it would be quite a good read! :)

[Mark]

There still is a Habbox Hall of Fame, before I got fired I finished it off. I think there was rumours about turning the page into a script. I'll check just now.

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Here it it: http://habbox.com/#/HallOfFame

[The Don]

Oh yeh! it should be edited to add users who aren't just staff members :P

[Slowpoke]

Oh yeh! it should be edited to add users who aren't just staff members :P

That's a good idea too.

I think they've got the basic idea, the page is good (if not outdated). I'd love to see it finished off and published on the main site :)

[Mark]

Oh yeh! it should be edited to add users who aren't just staff members :P

PM David about that one, I'm nealry finished all my pages that have been set so I don't mind doing this page if no one has it.


That's a good idea too.

I think they've got the basic idea, the page is good (if not outdated). I'd love to see it finished off and published on the main site :)

What do you mean by outdated?

[Kasabian]

Also, you have to log out to view it?

[David]

Also, you have to log out to view it?

I did :(

[Mark]

I did :(

I'll direct this thread to David as I could fix the perms if I had permission to do so.

[Kasabian]

I did :(

yeah same :(

Looking back through it, it brings back good memories.

[Calvin]

I probably didn't set it to member when I was the manager so my bad.

I'm sure regular members are listed but if not then it could be something to do. :)

[Mark]

I was that one that was given the page and I complete it but sadly it's not my page anymore as I was fired and then returned so I'm unsure what's happening to it now

[Catzsy]

I was that one that was given the page and I complete it but sadly it's not my page anymore as I was fired and then returned so I'm unsure what's happening to it now

I remember you worked really hard on this so it would be nice to see you complete the task. Hopefully you will be allowed to do it. :)

[FlyingJesus]

WHY AM I NOT ON THERE SLITS

Also lol some of the outfits are outdated by about 4 years but otherwise a good read

[Tom]

It'll be nice to see this finished and UPDATED.

Good luck to the content designer who gets this job! :)

[Recursion]

That page needs to be vetted, Jin's bio is seriously wrong:



helps make sure that Habbox stays up and on the world wide web.

And ---MAD--- was not seriously loved.

EDIT: Also Hecktix is no longer GM...

[GommeInc]

If you do make a Hall of Fame page, please, please, please do not have the words "what it is today" at the end of every opening sentence - it means nothing. For example, a competition department will still be a competition department no matter who founded it. No one can shape what one is unless they created the first ever, global use of the department, when they clearly didn't. My 2 pence on the situation at least :P

EDIT: The page seems to be more of a biography than an actual Hall of Fame. Many of these aren't exactly famous... infamous comes to word when describing some of these. Cut it down to the memorable and useful people. Yes, X was GM, doesn't mean he was famous for what he did, he was "just a GM".

For example:


Adzeh

Adzeh was a long term HabboxLive and News Manager. He eventually went on to become a Habbox Assistant General Manager. He was in charge of helping and assisting the the Habbox Departments and Managers until his resignation in April 2008.

And that makes him famous... how? He seems like a run-of-the-mill News and HabboxLive Manager, and an ordinary AGM.

[Zak]

There still is a Habbox Hall of Fame, before I got fired I finished it off. I think there was rumours about turning the page into a script. I'll check just now.

---------- Post added 27-07-2011 at 10:51 PM ----------

Here it it: http://habbox.com/#/HallOfFame

some familiar faces on there, was cool to read. :]

[Nick]

where am i. Jks jks

Looking very good mark :)

[The Don]

If you do make a Hall of Fame page, please, please, please do not have the words "what it is today" at the end of every opening sentence - it means nothing. For example, a competition department will still be a competition department no matter who founded it. No one can shape what one is unless they created the first ever, global use of the department, when they clearly didn't. My 2 pence on the situation at least :P

EDIT: The page seems to be more of a biography than an actual Hall of Fame. Many of these aren't exactly famous... infamous comes to word when describing some of these. Cut it down to the memorable and useful people. Yes, X was GM, doesn't mean he was famous for what he did, he was "just a GM".

For example:



And that makes him famous... how? He seems like a run-of-the-mill News and HabboxLive Manager, and an ordinary AGM.

I still think there should be a section of the hall of fame for all past GM's, it'd be a nice feature have somewhere on habbox, it could have a timeline of past gm's and what features they added and what they contributed to habbox. I still think 'famous' users should be in it, people like chris, tom etc.

[GommeInc]

I still think there should be a section of the hall of fame for all past GM's, it'd be a nice feature have somewhere on habbox, it could have a timeline of past gm's and what features they added and what they contributed to habbox. I still think 'famous' users should be in it, people like chris, tom etc.
They could be added, but not in the Hall of Fame. Another section of same page could be for past GMs. Perhaps the page could be designed to have 3 links at the top:


Past General Managers | Hall of Fame | Other Staff

Then the content.

I think allowing all General Managers into the Hall of Fame ruins the point of the Hall of Fame. Just because you were a General Manager doesn't make you famous :P

[The Don]

They could be added, but not in the Hall of Fame. Another section of same page could be for past GMs. Perhaps the page could be designed to have 3 links at the top:


Past General Managers | Hall of Fame | Other Staff

Then the content.

I think allowing all General Managers into the Hall of Fame ruins the point of the Hall of Fame. Just because you were a General Manager doesn't make you famous :P

I really like your suggestion of having the links at the top. I do see your point in it being pointless adding every past GM and by having the Links at the top of the page, it gives users more features and is a nice addition to have. I think the rules should be strict for who gets into the Hall of Fame, it would make it less special if there were loads of people in it.

[Milarz]

Didn't Habbox have a Hall Of Fame member group like.. last year?

[GommeInc]

I really like your suggestion of having the links at the top. I do see your point in it being pointless adding every past GM and by having the Links at the top of the page, it gives users more features and is a nice addition to have. I think the rules should be strict for who gets into the Hall of Fame, it would make it less special if there were loads of people in it.
Put it to the members, it's how you become famous on here anyway :P I think if you're in the Hall of fame, you should have a reason why, a reason which goes beyond the ordinary. If a GM was good, it has to go beyond the barriers of what makes a GM - what they implemented, what achievements they gained and what generally made them nice, for example. Saying "They achieved a lot" means nothing, there is no substance to that. They could of made loads of ordinary decisions which went down well with the members - it doesn't make them famous :P

I could rant about this for days :P

[Inseriousity.]

If you do make a Hall of Fame page, please, please, please do not have the words "what it is today" at the end of every opening sentence - it means nothing. For example, a competition department will still be a competition department no matter who founded it. No one can shape what one is unless they created the first ever, global use of the department, when they clearly didn't. My 2 pence on the situation at least :P

EDIT: The page seems to be more of a biography than an actual Hall of Fame. Many of these aren't exactly famous... infamous comes to word when describing some of these. Cut it down to the memorable and useful people. Yes, X was GM, doesn't mean he was famous for what he did, he was "just a GM".

For example:



And that makes him famous... how? He seems like a run-of-the-mill News and HabboxLive Manager, and an ordinary AGM.

I remember having a convo saying the same thing and the reply I got from someone was "theyve worked hard to get to the AGM role so they deserve it." I agree with you, it makes a mockery of it. That's nothing against Adzeh btw as I wasn't around at the time so can't really judge on that.

[GommeInc]

I remember having a convo saying the same thing and the reply I got from someone was "theyve worked hard to get to the AGM role so they deserve it." I agree with you, it makes a mockery of it. That's nothing against Adzeh btw as I wasn't around at the time so can't really judge on that.
That's a poor response, did you slap them or manage to hold yourself back? Anyone can be an AGM, GM etc. and those who do will all do the exact same things in that role. What makes a person famous is being unique in that role, achieving things no-one else managed to do or having a good attitude and personality, which won over the admiration of the forum members or the Habbo community. Obviously Adzeh was a good AGM, but he was just a standard AGM who did the job well. He wasn't "unique" and he didn't do anything that made him "famous" around the Habbox Community.

When you think of Fame, you think of names and people immediately. From the list on Habbox, the only people that were unique, admirable and well-known were Mizki, MissAlice, Immenseman (who was annoying popular around the forums, Habbo and Habbox) and a few others. Many seemed to of been added simply for the title and rank they earned - there is literally no other reason for why the are famous other than "They were General Manager and achieved great things", which means very little :P If you can't list their achievements and why you think of them as famous, then they simply aren't famous.

[Inseriousity.]

lol I never manage to hold myself back. I should try more often :P
You used the word unique, I used the word extraordinary. We're both on the same page here so I don't really have anything to add. :)

[Mathew]

If you do make a Hall of Fame page, please, please, please do not have the words "what it is today" at the end of every opening sentence - it means nothing. For example, a competition department will still be a competition department no matter who founded it. No one can shape what one is unless they created the first ever, global use of the department, when they clearly didn't. My 2 pence on the situation at least :P

EDIT: The page seems to be more of a biography than an actual Hall of Fame. Many of these aren't exactly famous... infamous comes to word when describing some of these. Cut it down to the memorable and useful people. Yes, X was GM, doesn't mean he was famous for what he did, he was "just a GM".

For example:



And that makes him famous... how? He seems like a run-of-the-mill News and HabboxLive Manager, and an ordinary AGM.
Agree with this post completely! :)


I still think there should be a section of the hall of fame for all past GM's, it'd be a nice feature have somewhere on habbox, it could have a timeline of past gm's and what features they added and what they contributed to habbox. I still think 'famous' users should be in it, people like chris, tom etc.
There used to be a page listing all past management for each department with dates, etc. Would be nice to see that return too, actually! :)

[Chippiewill]

The page needs to be proof check as well so it doesn't get repetitive, like "well-loved" and "as it is today". Almost killed myself reading it.

A Habbox God section would be quite nice too (More famous than some of the GMs imo)

[Mark]

I've now been given permission to edit this page so I'll read over this thread and sort the page out

[GoldenMerc]

Habbox God section would be pretty cool as someone stated above but i imagine within the next 1-2 years many users will be in that category?
How many people are currently Habbox Gods? about 5?

[Mark]

WHY AM I NOT ON THERE SLITS

Also lol some of the outfits are outdated by about 4 years but otherwise a good read

I linked it to their Habbo Account through the imager, if their image was broken and/or their habbo hadn't been merged I could only link it to another Habbo Account without any clothes etc to make it look a little tidier.


That page needs to be vetted, Jin's bio is seriously wrong:



And ---MAD--- was not seriously loved.

EDIT: Also Hecktix is no longer GM...

I'll sort that soon


If you do make a Hall of Fame page, please, please, please do not have the words "what it is today" at the end of every opening sentence - it means nothing. For example, a competition department will still be a competition department no matter who founded it. No one can shape what one is unless they created the first ever, global use of the department, when they clearly didn't. My 2 pence on the situation at least :P

EDIT: The page seems to be more of a biography than an actual Hall of Fame. Many of these aren't exactly famous... infamous comes to word when describing some of these. Cut it down to the memorable and useful people. Yes, X was GM, doesn't mean he was famous for what he did, he was "just a GM".

For example:



And that makes him famous... how? He seems like a run-of-the-mill News and HabboxLive Manager, and an ordinary AGM.

I'll sort this out as well, I will also post a thread in the staff forum about splitting this page up or adding another Hall of Fame for Forum Members.


They could be added, but not in the Hall of Fame. Another section of same page could be for past GMs. Perhaps the page could be designed to have 3 links at the top:


Past General Managers | Hall of Fame | Other Staff

Then the content.

I think allowing all General Managers into the Hall of Fame ruins the point of the Hall of Fame. Just because you were a General Manager doesn't make you famous :P

I'll post this in the staff thread too, along with the other Hall of Fame Pages


Agree with this post completely! :)


There used to be a page listing all past management for each department with dates, etc. Would be nice to see that return too, actually! :)

I'll post this in the staff forum as well, thanks Matt


The page needs to be proof check as well so it doesn't get repetitive, like "well-loved" and "as it is today". Almost killed myself reading it.

A Habbox God section would be quite nice too (More famous than some of the GMs imo)

This'll get sorted, I shall try and dig out some of the old threads, if anyone can find any more please PM them to me

[Grig]

Agree with this post completely! :)


There used to be a page listing all past management for each department with dates, etc. Would be nice to see that return too, actually! :)

There still is. If you go to the main site, click on Habbox and click on each department page, it will list all past management for that department with the dates- all updated.

[Mathew]

There still is. If you go to the main site, click on Habbox and click on each department page, it will list all past management for that department with the dates- all updated.
Either my permissions are messed up or you can only see them due to being a Content Designer. Shame the department pages haven't been released yet as we first started them way back when Oli was GM!

[Grig]

Either my permissions are messed up or you can only see them due to being a Content Designer. Shame the department pages haven't been released yet as we first started them way back when Oli was GM!

Oh I assumed they were supposed to be public by now, because they are more or less done and updated. I'll give Dave and buzz and I will say they should be with the public in a week or so :).

[Chippiewill]

Habbox God section would be pretty cool as someone stated above but i imagine within the next 1-2 years many users will be in that category?
How many people are currently Habbox Gods? about 5?
There aren't very many with more than 12,000 posts and many of those aren't very active any-more, although, I have just noticed that you're nearing that marker..

After checking: Yeah there is five, six if you include Jin's evil twin. There's about 30 people who could make it within three years or so but a majority of them haven't logged in since last year, have only made a couple of posts this year or only heavily post in spam nowadays.

I'd say it's really only you and Nemo who'll get there any time soon.

[GoldenMerc]

Oh :P
Not to bad, yeh im at 19k now aha.
Only another 1000 to go, never the less as they didnt even agknowledge your post i doubt there going to add it :P

[Neversoft]

I was PMed about this back in January and trawled through the forum for about an hour finding relevant threads and explaining my positions at Habbox. Now I just created an account to view the page, then it said I didn't have permission and by the sounds of it I'm probably not on it anyway. What a horrible waste of time. :(

[Jordan]

I was PMed about this back in January and trawled through the forum for about an hour finding relevant threads and explaining my positions at Habbox. Now I just created an account to view the page, then it said I didn't have permission and by the sounds of it I'm probably not on it anyway. What a horrible waste of time. :(

Yeah I looked yesterday on the page whilst logged in and it didn't work. I then logged out and viewed it again and it worked,

[Zuth]

Yeah I looked yesterday on the page whilst logged in and it didn't work. I then logged out and viewed it again and it worked,

By the looks of it the page Is now closed to the public whilst Mark works on it, guests should no longer be able to view the page :P

[Jordan]

Well I can still view it logged out.

[Zuth]

This should be sorted now :P

[xxMATTGxx]

Either my permissions are messed up or you can only see them due to being a Content Designer. Shame the department pages haven't been released yet as we first started them way back when Oli was GM!


Oh I assumed they were supposed to be public by now, because they are more or less done and updated. I'll give Dave and buzz and I will say they should be with the public in a week or so :).

The "Department Pages" are now public, so everyone should be able to see them now.

[GoldenMerc]

The "Department Pages" are now public, so everyone should be able to see them now.

link please

[Zuth]

link please

Habbox - Departments - Departments are Listed.

[David]

On the Habbox.com Pages you will see amazing graphics, Content Designers do not create them, that is the job of the Graphics Team.Only mention the Graphics Department gets.

[Alex3213]

Only mention the Graphics Department gets.

I agree with this and I am shocked that not only the department is only mentioned in one sentence but that there is no staff list/managers list for Graphics. I'd say that the Graphics team deserve more of a mention as with no graphics, this site'd look horrible.

Also my concerns are towards how departments such as the Events and Help Desk begin with "...one of the most important departments on Habbox"- what values these teams over the forum or radio, for example?

[Mark]

I agree with this and I am shocked that not only the department is only mentioned in one sentence but that there is no staff list/managers list for Graphics. I'd say that the Graphics team deserve more of a mention as with no graphics, this site'd look horrible.

Also my concerns are towards how departments such as the Events and Help Desk begin with "...one of the most important departments on Habbox"- what values these teams over the forum or radio, for example?

The graphics will have a page by tonight, apologies for this and I take responsibility for it as I only spoke to David about it and didn't speak to him about getting Graphics a page.

I also did the Events Page and this time we followed a script that Mathew made, he basically made the whole Page in a PM and sent it to me. I can't justify that quotation above so best to ask him.

[Alex3213]

The graphics will have a page by tonight, apologies for this and I take responsibility for it as I only spoke to David about it and didn't speak to him about getting Graphics a page.

I also did the Events Page and this time we followed a script that Mathew made, he basically made the whole Page in a PM and sent it to me. I can't justify that quotation above so best to ask him.

Thanks for the reply. I was curious because it used to be Site Design combined together, so I'm glad they've been separated because they both deserve a page. As for the Events page, it just shocks me how you can say that one department is more important than the other (not you personally cos you didn't write it). It was on the HD page as well- each department does its bit after all. Like I said earlier, the Graphics department are responsible for all the graphics (obviously :P) and all the sites would look ugly. There'd be a far smaller community without the forum, equally the radio. Not having a go at you even though it sounds that way, I just don't think we should be calling one department important and another not because I feel that each department makes Habbox.

Oh and another thing, what do you mean by a script made by Mathew? :O

Edit: I think also a good idea might be a nice on the Forum page to have a past list of Features Managers.

[Zuth]

Edit: I think also a good idea might be a nice on the Forum page to have a past list of Features Managers.

The page did have this on before but I removed it, would anyone prefer to have it back on the page?

[GoldenMerc]

Missing HabboxTV managers etc...

[Alkaz]

Missing HabboxTV managers etc...'Other departments' would be a good page to add. There should still be a long list in the Content Management forum which has lists and dates of departments like Hogwarts, Community, Moderation, International Division etc which all had managers and have now been dissolved.

[Alex3213]

The page did have this on before but I removed it, would anyone prefer to have it back on the page?

They're a manager all the same, whether they were a VIP manager or a Features Manager and I feel that they should still be mentioned because they manage (hence their name) all our VIP/donator/awards (and rep at now a lesser extent). So I feel they should still be there. :)

[Mr-Trainor]

The page did have this on before but I removed it, would anyone prefer to have it back on the page?

I agree with it returning :).

[Zuth]

I've just added it to the forum page! :) Its under the past Managers & Assistants :P

[Alex3213]

I think also listed under Features Managers should be past VIP managers.

[Mark]

Just updated the Hall of Fame page, thoughts? Please point out any errors etc

[Alkaz]

Not looked properly but on the second to last line it says 'hecktix' should be 'Hecktix'. :]

[FlyingJesus]

I think also listed under Features Managers should be past VIP managers.

What about myself and Rosie as past Community Managers and the old Mod Managers before the merge to FM/AFM :P or perhaps a separate page for jobs that no longer exist as there are quite a few (productions and articles come to mind as big ones of the past)

[Mark]

Not looked properly but on the second to last line it says 'hecktix' should be 'Hecktix'. :]

Sorted :-l

[Alex3213]

What about myself and Rosie as past Community Managers and the old Mod Managers before the merge to FM/AFM :P or perhaps a separate page for jobs that no longer exist as there are quite a few (productions and articles come to mind as big ones of the past)

Oh I didn't mention Mod Managers because I thought there was only one (maybe two) who was on there but that might just be me being silly/before my time. As for community managers- didn't think about it. :P I think they should still be on the forum page but I'd like to see a page for jobs that no longer exist such as other departments including productions and articles (the old articles of course), and HxTV as well. :P

[Neversoft]

RIOT BECAUSE I'M NOT ON IT. THAT PM WASTED MY TIME. BURN DOWN HABBOX.

Also

"Smiddy is one of the ex-Assistant General Managers that still visits the forum regularly."

Highly incorrect lol.

[Mark]

RIOT BECAUSE I'M NOT ON IT. THAT PM WASTED MY TIME. BURN DOWN HABBOX.

Also

"Smiddy is one of the ex-Assistant General Managers that still visits the forum regularly."

Highly incorrect lol.

Presuming Smiddy is his forum name, he last visited the 5th of this month?

[FlyingJesus]

Yeah but he's a very infrequent guest, comes on for like 3 posts a month

[Neversoft]

Yeah but he's a very infrequent guest, comes on for like 3 posts a month

And before that he didn't even come online for about two years lol.

[GommeInc]

This Hall of Fame page is coming off as a Biography and/or Past & Present Page. It isn't a Hall of Fame, the majority of the people on there are not "extraordinary", unique, interesting or famous. The only fame they have is that they worked for Habbox.

If for some reason Habbox Managers are against singling people out from the Hall of Fame page because they feel it will upset people, may I suggest renaming the page to "Past and Present Habbox Managers" as that seems to be the only use this page has.

[dbgtz]

This Hall of Fame page is coming off as a Biography and/or Past & Present Page. It isn't a Hall of Fame, the majority of the people on there are not "extraordinary", unique, interesting or famous. The only fame they have is that they worked for Habbox.

If for some reason Habbox Managers are against singling people out from the Hall of Fame page because they feel it will upset people, may I suggest renaming the page to "Past and Present Habbox Managers" as that seems to be the only use this page has.

This I mean I don't get why hecktix is in this, he was only there for ~1 year as a gm and afaik made no amazing contribution, then it mentions something negative about how he was fired a few days later and tbh during the last days he was active he was a total ****. I think only members should suggest who should be in the hall of fame.

[GommeInc]

This I mean I don't get why hecktix is in this, he was only there for ~1 year as a gm and afaik made no amazing contribution, then it mentions something negative about how he was fired a few days later and tbh during the last days he was active he was a total ****. I think only members should suggest who should be in the hall of fame.
Agreed. And the bit about Hecktix is hilarious, I did not know fame came to those who get fired.

[Catzsy]

I did think some of the members were going to be included but I have have noticed one absolutely glaring omission - nvrspk4!!!!!

[Mark]

We are discussing the Forum Members Hall of Fame as mentioned above :P

[GoldenMerc]

GoldenMerc for Hall of fame !!!!
jokes
well no but yeh, never the less still missing HxTV parts and other parts that are no longer job roles.
Ross

---------- Post added 10-08-2011 at 11:47 AM ----------

Plus in here;
http://habbox.com/#!/HabboxWorld
Why are no other positions listed e.g me and Rosie used to own the helpdesk... Plus super mods etc...

[Alkaz]

GoldenMerc for Hall of fame !!!!
jokes
well no but yeh, never the less still missing HxTV parts and other parts that are no longer job roles.
Ross

---------- Post added 10-08-2011 at 11:47 AM ----------

Plus in here;
http://habbox.com/#!/HabboxWorld
Why are no other positions listed e.g me and Rosie used to own the helpdesk... Plus super mods etc...
Because it is just about that site as a whole and not single departments with management history. Josh, Edan and Jay were only listed as they were the three 'main' men at the time of it's closure and obviously Josh was there from the beginning. Also because when I wrote it, information like that was too hard to get accurately.

[FlyingJesus]

We are discussing the Forum Members Hall of Fame as mentioned above :P

Would make sense considering some of us actually command some fame whereas there are like 5 people who actually remember Wayne_J, doraemonkiller and JackHB who are pretty much only remembered for having existed once

[Catzsy]

Would make sense considering some of us actually command some fame whereas there are like 5 people who actually remember Wayne_J, doraemonkiller and JackHB who are pretty much only remembered for having existed once

I remember, Wayne and JackHB very, very well and they earned their place. Also as I said before why is there no mention of nvrspk4 or do I need glasses? :P

[Alkaz]

I remember, Wayne and JackHB very, very well and they earned their place. Also as I said before why is there no mention of nvrspk4 or do I need glasses? :Pnvrspk4 was on another version of the HoF but as far as I'm aware this is an updated version of the very original version of the HoF. That may explain why he isn't on there? It would be nice to see him on there though :]

[GommeInc]

So you're making two Halls of Fame? Why must you people like clutter and complications? :P Just make 3 pages:


Past & Present Managers | Hall of Fame | Other

Chuck the people who aren't famous (but you insist they are because they worked for Habbox) in the Past & Present section, leaving actual famous people in the Hall of Fame.

You also need to work on the text that accompanies them. So far you're listing that they were staff - big whoop. List why they are famous, their achievements, why members think they are famous. So far the only two famous people are probably Catzsy and MissAlice, some left too long ago to be considered famous, some are behind the scenes and do not socialise with the community (fame is subjective, not objective and must be perceived, not assumed) and others are famous for the wrong reasons, which won't and aren't state in the Hall of Fame.

So far this isn't coming off as a real Hall of Fame, it seems too fabricated and based on position rather than the individual talents.

EDIT: Perhaps you could get the community involved, to list who they think are famous? So far it seems based on an outdated page, and a wrongly defined meaning of fame.


I remember, Wayne and JackHB very, very well and they earned their place. Also as I said before why is there no mention of nvrspk4 or do I need glasses? :P
In the Hall of Fame? No. For being staff, yes.

[Inseriousity.]

lol youve just contradicted yourself there. you said fame is subjective then said they're working on a wrongly defined meaning of fame. Maybe their definition of fame is just different to yours as fame is subjective?

Names aside as I haven't really looked at it properly, I do agree with you. I think each individual should have at least 2-3 achievements next to their name to prove that they've earned their place on that page.

[GommeInc]

lol youve just contradicted yourself there. you said fame is subjective then said they're working on a wrongly defined meaning of fame. Maybe their definition of fame is just different to yours as fame is subjective?

Names aside as I haven't really looked at it properly, I do agree with you. I think each individual should have at least 2-3 achievements next to their name to prove that they've earned their place on that page.
How is that a contradiction? Their definition of fame is anyone can be famous as long as they work for us - based upon fact (objective) than widespread opinion (subjective). That's not fame, that's being a volunteer on a fansite :P Fame is widely accepted as being:

The condition of being known or talked about by many people, esp. on account of notable achievements.

The majority in the list are only famous for being staff, the description of them even hints this. There is no sense of individual achievement in the Hall of Fame. If they want to list their staff, then make a new page and leave the Hall of Fame for people who are actually famous for being themselves and for what they did, rather than for what they were in Habbox. Their defintion seems more objective (factual - x was a GM) than subjective (wide spread opinion - x was a great GM who did ...).

[Chippiewill]

So rename hall of fame to notable staff and then make a hall of fame?

[GommeInc]

So rename hall of fame to notable staff and then make a hall of fame?
Indeed, that would be the wiser option.

[buttons]

i'm confused, what's the point on two seperate hall of fames? what exactly can you be famous for on this site/forum other than for being staff lol

[RyRy]

i'm confused, what's the point on two seperate hall of fames? what exactly can you be famous for on this site/forum other than for being staff lol

Tbh I was gonna bring up that very idea, but I've got the answer you're looking for Jen. There isn't any point, the people who go on here do it leisurely and the staff that come on here do a job. Plus nobody outside of the community gives a hoot who's popular and who's not, if anything it's alienating.

[Catzsy]

A Hall of Fame are for people who have made a significient/special contribution to whatever sphere they are in not because are 'famous' as such as far I know such as the music industry etc. We seem to be going off the original definition where people who in the past did. They many not visit the forum now but I don't see that as a reason for them not to be included as they were in the past. No point rewriting history here just because not many members remember them now. I think one hall of fame is fine and should include staff and members alike.

[GommeInc]

A Hall of Fame are for people who have made a significient/special contribution to whatever sphere they are in not because are 'famous' as such as far I know such as the music industry etc.
So the majority of the current "Hall of Fame" (a.k.a. past and present managers) shouldn't be there then? They've not made any special/significant contributions, they were just managers who worked for Habbox - hardly fame and awe inspiring. Again, let the members decide. I don't get why management are again deciding what and who is famous.

Also, your definition of fame is very supervisual. Fame can come and go, there's no point adding people no-one particularly remembers. Ever heard people say "they were famous in their time" in a sentence? It's exactly the same here.

Seriously, the definition you lot are going by is lousy. If you were in charge of compiling a list of influential, important and notable Kings and Queens, you would put them all in the list, for the simple fact they were royalty, rather than any measurable amount of significance.

The proof is in the pudding anyway, you can tell who is famous in the current list by the biography that accompanies the individual. The ones with a generic "they were a general manager and made substantial contributions" are the ones who aren't famous, for the simple fact that the description used means sweet naf all :P

[nvrspk4]

I kind of skipped over the majority of the 9 pages and read like 2...what happened to the old page Alkaz did? It was very well researched and was completed with the assistance of many of the members of the Ex-Staff forum, most notably MissAlice who did a lot of work on the project. I understand that it was considered too inclusive, but it would be very useful as a research source for the new HoF since the new one (no offense) isn't that well-researched, mostly because only a handful of staff reach back before the 8F8 days.

[Chippiewill]

Perhaps a well seasoned ex-staff member like yourself would prove of valuable assistance in assembling said list?

[Mathew]

Also my concerns are towards how departments such as the Events and Help Desk begin with "...one of the most important departments on Habbox"- what values these teams over the forum or radio, for example?
I was asked to write the events page so obviously I'm going to think events is the best... :P!


I also did the Events Page and this time we followed a script that Mathew made, he basically made the whole Page in a PM and sent it to me. I can't justify that quotation above so best to ask him.
init woooo.


Oh and another thing, what do you mean by a script made by Mathew? :O
I split the events department page up into various sections so that it was tidy and informative. I assume Mark liked it and copied it to the rest? :P

I don't think having a discussion like this is a good way to decide on the HoF because I highly doubt there's many active members around today who actually remember such influential users, let alone write a paragraph on them, singing their praises. A much better way would be having users submit people who they feel are worthy, and why. GM would be able to take a look at the list: taking into account who submitted which name before carrying out some research on whether the claims are true. Yes it's subjective and yes it's time consuming, but I do think users such as nvrspk4, GommeInc and the likes would have much more expertise in the field than someone such as myself. Just an idea.

[Catzsy]

So the majority of the current "Hall of Fame" (a.k.a. past and present managers) shouldn't be there then? They've not made any special/significant contributions, they were just managers who worked for Habbox - hardly fame and awe inspiring. Again, let the members decide. I don't get why management are again deciding what and who is famous.

Also, your definition of fame is very supervisual. Fame can come and go, there's no point adding people no-one particularly remembers. Ever heard people say "they were famous in their time" in a sentence? It's exactly the same here.

Seriously, the definition you lot are going by is lousy. If you were in charge of compiling a list of influential, important and notable Kings and Queens, you would put them all in the list, for the simple fact they were royalty, rather than any measurable amount of significance.

The proof is in the pudding anyway, you can tell who is famous in the current list by the biography that accompanies the individual. The ones with a generic "they were a general manager and made substantial contributions" are the ones who aren't famous, for the simple fact that the description used means sweet naf all :P

Do you mean superficial? How so? I was talking about members who were included in the original hall of fame made a long time ago. Just because they no longer with us doesn't mean they should not be included.
This is an update of the original not a completely new one. Anyway it is not up to me which is quite a good thing as I probably would have a 'Hall of Infamy' which would include a couple on the list. But that is just my own opinion.

[GommeInc]

Do you mean superficial? How so? I was talking about members who were included in the original hall of fame made a long time ago. Just because they no longer with us doesn't mean they should not be included.
This is an update of the original not a completely new one. Anyway it is not up to me which is quite a good thing as I probably would have a 'Hall of Infamy' which would include a couple on the list. But that is just my own opinion.
That's the one :P Because it's only going by what they worked as for Habbox (on the surface, going by the immediate perceptions), which is boring and generic, and doesn't really tell you why they are famous other than "because they are". If they are famous, it should be why the members like them, and the staff as a secondary source. At the moment, it's like saying Amy Winehouse was/is famous becuase she was a singer.

Old staff could be included, but the majority in that list weren't famous to begin with, they just did a job like any other (according to the information provided). The main point really is to get what the members think, as they're the ones that can tell you who is famous and isn't (even yourself, you said it would be your opinion, which is what fame is - opinion :P)

[nvrspk4]

Perhaps a well seasoned ex-staff member like yourself would prove of valuable assistance in assembling said list?

I'd be more than happy to help, but as I mentioned, if we can find that old page it would cut out a loooot of work.

[FlyingJesus]

what exactly can you be famous for on this site/forum other than for being staff lol

Pretty sure more people around here know who you and I are than whoever Nuxty is, just as one example. However...


nobody outside of the community gives a hoot who's popular and who's not

Is a good point, and for this reason it may well be best just to call the section "staff history" than "hall of fame" and forget about doing a who's hot and who's not page, as you can't debate the fact that someone did work here

[-:Undertaker:-]

I think there are a lot of older forum members who maybe haven't been involved in staff that deserve a place in the 'Hall of Fame' - GommeInc and FlyingJesus to name just two members. I guess it is hard to decide where to draw (concerning impact on Habbo and impact on the Forum [Habbox itself]) the line although the present list on Habbox I agree is only a Staff list.

[nvrspk4]

The problem I see there is what to consider famous - are the very popular people who had a large impact but still had a tendency to bully people they didn't like allowed on the Hall of Fame? What about the people who are awesome but decided to go on a rampage on their way out and get banned (or those who got banned for less than a rampage, but still). Will there be a minimum requirement for behavior in terms of bans? If so, many of the prominent members will get left out.

I think a members hall of fame would be better done by letting the community remember them - putting it down on an official site page creates headaches. Plus, unlike staff where there are announcements and documentation, the members from the first five to six years of Habbox wouldn't really get a fair run.

[GoldenMerc]

The hall of fame at the moment is pretty much get to agm and ur on there, i mean Rosie (defiantly) Hecktix (no) but i suppose its all down to personal opinions.

[GommeInc]

Is a good point, and for this reason it may well be best just to call the section "staff history" than "hall of fame" and forget about doing a who's hot and who's not page, as you can't debate the fact that someone did work here
I'm starting to think this too. The page would be difficult to compile and is completely useless to anyone outside Habbox. Famous people on here do not need to be listed, as it's down to the individual member who they 'think' is famous. Besides, if the majority of a forum think someone is famous then why put the effort into listing them? It's like listing what people like in their sandwich, listing the pooular ones won't change anything. In short, renaming the page to "Past Staff" seems a wiser choice, especially if by the current standards fame is only measurable by what position someone held in Habbox (General Manager down to Department Manager).

[The Don]

I'm starting to think this too. The page would be difficult to compile and is completely useless to anyone outside Habbox. Famous people on here do not need to be listed, as it's down to the individual member who they 'think' is famous. Besides, if the majority of a forum think someone is famous then why put the effort into listing them? It's like listing what people like in their sandwich, listing the pooular ones won't change anything. In short, renaming the page to "Past Staff" seems a wiser choice, especially if by the current standards fame is only measurable by what position someone held in Habbox (General Manager down to Department Manager).

I disagree because there are members who haven't been staff but have had a huge impact on Habbox and deserve to be recognized. It's a nice feature for current and future members to read through and they can see what the past users were like,it's also a nice homage to those past members who use to visit the forum.

I don't think there should