what would you call this? (this is about stearotypical people)

[Marbian]

me
The Fray, ColdPlay, Michael Jackson, Billy Currington, Simple Plan, Blink 182, Usha, britney spears, ac/dc, mika... loads more. search them up... real music.
i think
you would like mika
deffo

the lad (he's 15)
im gay i like lady gaga
so i dont think so

(me)
because your gay it doesnt mean you have to like that? wtf?

(the lad)
i like lady gaga i dont listen to guys singing i listen to girls singing sooo

(me)
gay. your attracked to the same sex. it doesnt mean anything else.
no your just the oh IM GAY lets wear pink type of guy
stupid.

What would you call this? Just someone being so sterotpyical.. I'm not a homophobic or anything. But people like this make me mad. :S

[Neversoft]

I'd call it stupidity.

[wixard]

what
i thought everyone knew gays only listened to lady gaga or britney

[Marbian]

what
i thought everyone knew gays only listened to lady gaga or britney

lmaoo. i know enough right gays that dont ;p the only people i know who do are all the oh so pink and girly cause ima gay, people. :p

[Accipiter]

Stereotypical ******s

---------- Post added 15-08-2011 at 08:12 PM ----------

Because they're "Stereotypical Disabled People" sorry HxF for avoiding your politically correct filter.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Being opposed to homosexuality doesn't make you homophobic as though you have some sort of irrational fear or phobia of it. In this case however, you have not even stated any opposition to homosexuality so no, its not homophobic nor are most things which are usually classed as an irrational fear of gays when infact they are stated opinions against homosexality on a range of grounds. The same applies to 'islamophobia'.

[awesomedudebros]

i beg u

Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!

[Chippiewill]

What would you call this? Just someone being so sterotpyical.. I'm not a homophobic or anything. But people like this make me mad. :S
Diagnosis: This is someone using the sexual orientation to make them the centre of attention.
Solution: Ignore.

Your fear of being homophobic is really the opposite since you're questioning his self-segregation.


nor are most things which are usually classed as an irrational fear of gays when infact they are stated opinions against homosexality on a range of grounds.
Actually most opinions against homosexuals are not backed up by any (Logical) facts otherwise known as RATIONALITY making it IRRATIONAL.


The same applies to 'islamophobia'.
Difference here is I can have a rational fear due to the statistically higher odds of them being a terrorist.

[Jordy]

Surely a stereotypical gay would listen to Mika anyway, is it just me who thought this?

I'm a massive fan of Mika and whenever friends scout him on my iPod I get a torrent of homosexual abuse :P

[bootydrop]

Poser. I have never seen anyone want to prove they are gay, I would expect to see them hide it more. Guess that shows there is more accepting going on :)

[Casanova]

that's not stereotypical of gays, that's stereotypical of A CAMP PERSON.

I swear this forum (and world) is plagued with idiots.

[Jordy]

that's not stereotypical of gays, that's stereotypical of A CAMP PERSON.

I swear this forum (and world) is plagued with idiots.A stereotypical gay would be camp...

[Casanova]

A stereotypical gay would be camp...

Yeah, stereotypes being the work of the naive. A gay would seem to be camp.
camp and gay aren't hand in hand.

it pisses me off when people assume so.

[Jordy]

Yeah, stereotypes being the work of the naive. A gay would seem to be camp.
camp and gay aren't hand in hand.

it pisses me off when people assume so.I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying it's the stereotype.

Camp doesn't necessarily mean your gay but it's quite likely (Although less so recently) but when most people think of gay they still think of camp people.

[Casanova]

I'm not saying it's right, I'm saying it's the stereotype.

Camp doesn't necessarily mean your gay but it's quite likely (Although less so recently) but when most people think of gay they still think of camp people.

No it's not. you're talking absolute ********e.

[Jordy]

No it's not. you're talking absolute ********e.Haha no I think you'll find you are, you don't want to understand the concept of a stereotype because you're confusing it with prejudice and homophobia.

A stereotype is merely a popular belief, it doesn't mean it's true. A "stereotypical gay" would live up to the beliefs people hold about gay people. For instance this would mean they're probably quite feminine (camp) in terms of appearance and music they listen to (among other things).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_stereotypes#Gay_men

It's really not a difficult concept to understand.

[Casanova]

Haha no I think you'll find you are, you don't want to understand the concept of a stereotype because you're confusing it with prejudice and homophobia.

A stereotype is merely a popular belief, it doesn't mean it's true. A "stereotypical gay" would live up to the beliefs people hold about gay people. For instance this would mean they're probably quite feminine (camp) in terms of appearance and music they listen to (among other things).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_stereotypes#Gay_men

It's really not a difficult concept to understand.

I accept that, I accept people believe that (as a stereotype of gay people)

I've just noticed I skim-read your reply and thought you said most gays are camp. You actually said most (used to) assume that most gays are camp.
It's just naive to assume so ,i'm aware you didn't.

It just angers me being a completely normal, straight dude to see people tagging gays with being camp.
For instance, i'm extremely open about my sexuality. Most if not all people find out through being told. Such as in my workplace, clients assume that my other male colleague is gay and not me? When they're told different (which pisses me off too. I don't ask them of their bedroom goings on so why should they need to know my sexuality!) they simply either don't believe it or proclaim they assumed different. The downside of this is a lot of weird, stalker-ish girls finding me on facebook. Which i don't understand, my name isn't the same on facebook as it is.

[GommeInc]

Mika is pretty gay, so I'm amazed he doesn't like Mika to be honest.

Being camp usually means your gay - it's how the stereotype goes. However, in reality, it's usually assumed but not necessary true.

[Casanova]

Mika is pretty gay, so I'm amazed he doesn't like Mika to be honest.

Oh the irony with "big girls" eh? nothing like bringing attention to the problem!

[Technologic]

Welcome to the internet.

Al;so lady gaga is my bbz

[GommeInc]

Oh the irony with "big girls" eh? nothing like bringing attention to the problem!
I can't think of many people who are male and straight, and listen to him, but obviously this is just stereotyping. However, the only time Mika is talked about in my friends' circle usually comes from the gay men. Women seem indifferent :P

Tis science.

[Casanova]

I can't think of many people who are male and straight, and listen to him, but obviously this is just stereotyping. However, the only time Mika is talked about in my friends' circle usually comes from the gay men. Women seem indifferent :P

Tis science.

My nephews love him, so does my siblings and I! He's just good trashy pop. Bit different?
My nephews danced to lollypop for one whole summer =)!!!

[Marbian]

that's not stereotypical of gays, that's stereotypical of A CAMP PERSON.

I swear this forum (and world) is plagued with idiots.

I hope that wasn't aimed at me... I don't care for the words gay, camps... I just get mad when gay people think they need to do this and this because their gay. The guy, even said it's because his gay, not because his camp... cos he isn't camp at all.

[Casanova]

I hope that wasn't aimed at me... I don't care for the words gay, camps... I just get mad when gay people think they need to do this and this because their gay. The guy, even said it's because his gay, not because his camp... cos he isn't camp at all.

Who else would I be replying to...
I just think you're being harsh.

[Accipiter]

Surely a stereotypical gay would listen to Mika anyway, is it just me who thought this?

I'm a massive fan of Mika and whenever friends scout him on my iPod I get a torrent of homosexual abuse :P

I listen to Mika, and I'm certainly not gay lmao... Yeah maybe if you listen to Billy Brown by him, not his others!

[Narnat,]

I'd call it idiotic.

[Marbian]

Who else would I be replying to...
I just think you're being harsh.

Not like anyone would care that you're finding something harsh. But why am I harsh for thinking someone is being stereotypical?

And you simply called me a idiot because you quoted it's stereotypically camp not stereotypically gay... He's the one that said it's because he's gay, not me. I said nothing about camp, because this kid is no where near camp.

[Muct]

i cba reading 3 pages so @OP i hate it too when people parade their sexuality about as though it is some kind of fashion like 'OHHHH IM GAY -WEARS ALL PINK & LISTENS TO BRITNEY SPEARZ YEEEEEEY'

[danzooo]

I'd say he's a little attention ***** and you punch him in the ****

[GirlNextDoor15]

Let's be nice to that 15 year old kid. He is young and might be a little childish. He was influenced by his friends and so, he thought he is gay without even experiencing knowing what that is. Simple. Most kids nowadays follow the so called 'trend' because gay people are standing up for themselves now.

[-:Undertaker:-]

Actually most opinions against homosexuals are not backed up by any (Logical) facts otherwise known as RATIONALITY making it IRRATIONAL.

Well that depends on what arguments are being put forth, but largely homophobia doesn't exist and is used to smear those who disagree with homosexuality. I'm not saying I agree with all of these arguments, just that if people want to discuss both sides properly then they should do so rather than label the opposition to homosexuality as having some sort of irrational fear towards it.


Difference here is I can have a rational fear due to the statistically higher odds of them being a terrorist.

But then you could bring something else in ie HIV for example. The point i'm making is that to label opposition to something as a phobia is ridiculous and childish. I don't want this country for example to become islamic based upon good grounds, that doesn't make me islamophobic.

The same applies to somebody who does not want their son to be gay because they disapprove of homosexuality.

[Catzsy]

I think he is entitled to his opinions as is the OP. Why should anybody be labelled because of the music they listen too. It's their choice.

[xDenmianx]

I don't want to offend anyone here who may be young teenagers, but it's more than likely that this guy is confused. He's fifteen. He probably doesn't understand what being Gay means. It's likely that he isn't Gay. It's possible that he wants to be gay because he thinks it's cool and he's 'rebelling' - so at any given opportunity he tells people that he's gay.

[Zyzz]

Let's be nice to that 15 year old kid. He is young and might be a little childish. He was influenced by his friends and so, he thought he is gay without even experiencing knowing what that is. Simple. Most kids nowadays follow the so called 'trend' because gay people are standing up for themselves now.


I don't want to offend anyone here who may be young teenagers, but it's more than likely that this guy is confused. He's fifteen. He probably doesn't understand what being Gay means. It's likely that he isn't Gay. It's possible that he wants to be gay because he thinks it's cool and he's 'rebelling' - so at any given opportunity he tells people that he's gay.

This.

Because of the nanny society that we are turning into and trying to make it "ok" for 2 men to sleep with eachother, more young men are experementing with it. Some now think it's alright and perfectly normal to do things with other men so do it for the attention (like it's the new trend) or just to experiment. As already said, they are usually just confused but if it was like it used to be were being gay was frowned upon by everyone then they wouldn't even be in that postion to be confused anyway as the thought of loving or doing anything with another man wouldn't of even come across their mind.

[Chippiewill]

Well that depends on what arguments are being put forth, but largely homophobia doesn't exist and is used to smear those who disagree with homosexuality. I'm not saying I agree with all of these arguments, just that if people want to discuss both sides properly then they should do so rather than label the opposition to homosexuality as having some sort of irrational fear towards it.
I have not yet seen a reason backed up with (Reliable) evidence for being against / afraid of homosexuals (Which doesn't apply to the majority). Whilst I agree that people are far too often are labelled with having an irrational fear of it whilst merely stating a fact on it


But then you could bring something else in ie HIV for example. What?


I don't want this country for example to become islamic based upon good grounds, that doesn't make me islamophobic.
Well, if you do not provide said "good grounds" then it would appear irrational, but there are several rational reasons such as a dislike of our culture from changing for heritage / nostalgia reasons.


The same applies to somebody who does not want their son to be gay because they disapprove of homosexuality.
General disapproval without reason is irrational.

[Zyzz]

I have not yet seen a reason backed up with (Reliable) evidence for being against / afraid of homosexuals (Which doesn't apply to the majority). Whilst I agree that people are far too often are labelled with having an irrational fear of it whilst merely stating a fact on it

What?


Well, if you do not provide said "good grounds" then it would appear irrational, but there are several rational reasons such as a dislike of our culture from changing for heritage / nostalgia reasons.


General disapproval without reason is irrational.

Wut?

Some people just think that homosexuality is wrong and goes against what we are as humans, they don't need to provide reasons, it's just their opinion.

[Judas]

I don't know what I find more stupid, the way he thinks he can't listen to those artists because he's gay, or the way you think there is such thing as "real music". And that you listed Britney Spears as one of them. :L

Sexuality and music tastes do not go hand in hand with each other. It just so happens that a large amount of gay people are camp, and they tend to like music like Gaga, Britney, Madonna etc... Obviously it's not a fact that is applied 100% of the time, but the majority do. It's true.

I'd call it moronic on both sides. He can listen to what he likes, and you have no right to say otherwise or tell him who he should listen to, and he needs to stop categorising his sexuality and music taste together.


Well that depends on what arguments are being put forth, but largely homophobia doesn't exist and is used to smear those who disagree with homosexuality. I'm not saying I agree with all of these arguments, just that if people want to discuss both sides properly then they should do so rather than label the opposition to homosexuality as having some sort of irrational fear towards it.

The term is incorrect and you would have a hard time finding someone who is actually afraid of gay people, I don't know where it originates from but it has stuck and won't change. It's used in the wrong context for what it should mean, but it has adapted it's own meaning now and is just an easier way of labeling someone who hates gays. I don't know why it's that much of a big deal, everyone knows what is meant by it when it's said.

[DPS]

Hes 15, probs has never had something in his... he doesnt know if hes gay or not imo.