Windows 8 start menu what have they done?! [Archive]

Agnostic Bear

01-09-2011, 05:57 AM

What a high quality operating system they are building there. They must of put a lot of thought into the user interface. They are truly innovative in design.

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In regards to the video, that definitely wont be in the final version. Microsoft don't throw millions of dollars at UI development for nothing.

Also, it looks to be some sort of programming glitch throwing the tile window manager features into Aero. Possibly an integration test.

Edited by Catzsy (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make inappropriate remarks.

xxMATTGxx

01-09-2011, 08:19 AM

Well done for reading a crap article on Engadget who report such news about Windows 8 after everyone else has! I recommend you read: http://www.winrumors.com/microsoft-teases-its-metro-style-windows-8-start-menu/ and obviously this is not a final version. I can also see that black start menu being used for touch devices, obviously the bar wouldn't be aero as it doesn't match but Microsoft have not said "This is the final version" when it isn;t, they are still working on it and you should understand that.

What a high quality operating system they are building there. They must of put a lot of thought into the user interface. They are truly innovative in design.

Windows 8 will be high quality.

Thomas

01-09-2011, 08:33 AM

lucky i have a mac because thats terrible!

Recursion

01-09-2011, 09:15 AM

You lot are fools. This is a very early (Alpha? Possibly not even that) build where MS are trying new things etc, I doubt it'll look anything like that in the final build.

Matthew

01-09-2011, 10:41 AM

lucky i have a mac because thats terrible!

That isn't the final build.. :P

AgnesIO

01-09-2011, 10:48 AM

I just looked at the video on the website..

Isn't the super easy way to make virtual disks making it even easier to pirate stuff :P

Thomas

01-09-2011, 10:56 AM

That isn't the final build.. :P

still! im trying to prove a point :'(

GommeInc

01-09-2011, 11:46 AM

Isn't it a bit early to judge? Also, the way it's written "Windows 8 Start Menu caught on camera, shows off high-contrast design" suggests that this isn't the default setting, but the high contrast design for people with sight problems, something Windows has had since Windows 95 (or there abouts).

Besides, the argument "that looks ugly, I won't use it" is void - Windows is highly customisable ;) You go to your ugly, grey Mac designs where the designers of such an OS have clearly sucked the happy and colours out of their UI :P

/typical OS rant

xxMATTGxx

01-09-2011, 02:32 PM

HotelUser

01-09-2011, 02:32 PM

We can only hope they step away from that black-gray looking interface before a later on release :P

QuotePort

01-09-2011, 02:36 PM

I'm sure that won't be it, considering they invest millions and hire specialists to come up with the design. A academically-challenged minor could of come up with that, "erm...a grey box!"

HotelUser

01-09-2011, 02:40 PM

I'm sure that won't be it, considering they invest millions and hire specialists to come up with the design. A academically-challenged minor could of come up with that, "erm...a grey box!"

Haha, how awkward!

xxMATTGxx

01-09-2011, 02:44 PM

Haha, how awkward!

I'm fed up with your crap. They are testing different UI's and may have a number of them in Windows 8, the guy wasn't even showing off that UI in the video and was just there when he was talking about Windows Explorer. Just because theres images and videos of that on the internet doesn't mean it will look like that when it ships next year. At BUILD later on this month, I'm sure we will get a lot more information about Windows 8.

HotelUser

01-09-2011, 02:47 PM

I'm fed up with your crap. They are testing different UI's and may have a number of them in Windows 8, the guy wasn't even showing off that UI in the video and was just there when he was talking about Windows Explorer. Just because theres images and videos of that on the internet doesn't mean it will look like that when it ships next year. At BUILD later on this month, I'm sure we will get a lot more information about Windows 8.

Lets hope they're saving the best one until release :P

xxMATTGxx

01-09-2011, 02:48 PM

Lets hope they're saving the best one until release :P

Let's hope you don't post more of these threads because you don't understand that Microsoft are still working on Windows 8.

HotelUser

01-09-2011, 02:49 PM

Let's hope you don't post more of these threads because you don't understand that Microsoft are still working on Windows 8.

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=717548 :rolleyes:

xxMATTGxx

01-09-2011, 02:50 PM

http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=717548 :rolleyes:

Many people will agree that Apple are suing companies for the sake of it. I also understand why they took them into the courts but I also know that Apple faked documents in regards of that case, which is very naughty! ;)

HotelUser

01-09-2011, 02:52 PM

Many people will agree that Apple are suing companies for the sake of it. I also understand why they took them into the courts but I also know that Apple faked documents in regards of that case, which is very naughty! ;)

Many people agree this beta/alpha start menu is ugly. Maybe they will change it maybe they wont; it's still news regardless and it's still ugly right now :P

Recursion

01-09-2011, 02:52 PM

GUYS, STOP ARGUING. WINDOWS IS THE GREATEST OS EVER CREATED. MAC OS X LION IS TERRIBLE. We don't have to pay for service packs and our graphical subsystem is far better than any you could get in OS X.

Now I'll be leaving this here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k

xxMATTGxx

01-09-2011, 02:53 PM

Many people agree this beta/alpha start menu is ugly. Maybe they will change it maybe they wont; it's still news regardless and it's still ugly right now :P

They will change it, it doesn't match the aero bar. Microsoft aren't stupid, regardless on what you may think of them. It's obviously there while they do some testing and crap or whatever else they do when building an operating system.

Edit: Yo HotelUser, Imma let you finish but Windows 8 will be the greatest operating system of all time, of all time.

HotelUser

01-09-2011, 02:56 PM

They will change it, it doesn't match the aero bar. Microsoft aren't stupid, regardless on what you may think of them. It's obviously there while they do some testing and crap or whatever else they do when building an operating system.

You must of missed past conversations where I said I'd be buying the first good battery life Windows 8 tablet I could get my hands on - still doesn't change that this release's start menu is ugly, I never said anything about it staying the same through to final release?

AgnesIO

01-09-2011, 03:17 PM

Could I point out to you Dave, the reason that Mac OSX never looks this weird early on is because Apple don't change their UI in the ways Microsoft does on their OS.

HotelUser

02-09-2011, 07:11 PM

Could I point out to you Dave, the reason that Mac OSX never looks this weird early on is because Apple don't change their UI in the ways Microsoft does on their OS.

The Tiger to Leopard UI change was a drastic one and I love still how since I bought a Mac whenever I say anything negative towards Windows people jump on the bandwagon and insult OS X to me. I have a Windows laptop, am getting a Windows 8 Tablet, I also own two iMacs and it's all great and I love them.

Also I'm going to take this opportunity to directly call Tom and Matt Garner hypocrites because it's very evident that they sure can dish it out but can not take it :)

AgnesIO

02-09-2011, 07:21 PM

The Tiger to Leopard UI change was a drastic one and I love still how since I bought a Mac whenever I say anything negative towards Windows people jump on the bandwagon and insult OS X to me. I have a Windows laptop, am getting a Windows 8 Tablet, I also own two iMacs and it's all great and I love them.

Also I'm going to take this opportunity to directly call Tom and Matt Garner hypocrites because it's very evident that they sure can dish it out but can not take it :)

So you are telling me you don't favour either Companies OS at all? ********.

HotelUser

02-09-2011, 07:24 PM

So you are telling me you don't favour either Companies OS at all? ********.

No I do prefer OS X but I like Windows too. It's interesting that you and others don't mind when Matt for instance posts that thread poking fun at Apple, yet when I post a genuine thing I dislike about Windows (and it was genuine enough to be posted on various tech news blogs so it's a genuine topic) I seem to get the negative end of the stick.

How funny.

AgnesIO

02-09-2011, 07:32 PM

No I do prefer OS X but I like Windows too. It's interesting that you and others don't mind when Matt for instance posts that thread poking fun at Apple, yet when I post a genuine thing I dislike about Windows (and it was genuine enough to be posted on various tech news blogs so it's a genuine topic) I seem to get the negative end of the stick.

How funny.

Because like Matt and others, I "support" Windows. I generally don't use Apple products (although I can see the benefits and good things about some of them).

Can we look at this like football teams. Manchester United and Chelsea.

If there are five Manchester United fans and one Chelsea fan, it is quite obvious the Chelsea fan will get ripped, and everyone will poke fun at him and saywhy Manchester United is better. Yet if the Chelsea fan tries to pick fun at MU and take the micky out of something they will get the negative end of the stick. It doesn't take a ******* genius to work out that if the majority of people "support" one team over another, the majority will always appear to "target" the minorities team since they would be in the majority seat. Just like if the majority of people in a conversation prefer Windows to OSX, it is obvious whoever supports the 'minority' OS will get the negative end of the stick.

"How Funny."

HotelUser

02-09-2011, 08:26 PM

Because like Matt and others, I "support" Windows. I generally don't use Apple products (although I can see the benefits and good things about some of them).

Can we look at this like football teams. Manchester United and Chelsea.

If there are five Manchester United fans and one Chelsea fan, it is quite obvious the Chelsea fan will get ripped, and everyone will poke fun at him and saywhy Manchester United is better. Yet if the Chelsea fan tries to pick fun at MU and take the micky out of something they will get the negative end of the stick. It doesn't take a ******* genius to work out that if the majority of people "support" one team over another, the majority will always appear to "target" the minorities team since they would be in the majority seat. Just like if the majority of people in a conversation prefer Windows to OSX, it is obvious whoever supports the 'minority' OS will get the negative end of the stick.

"How Funny."

I don't care about that. There are things I don't like about OS X. There are things I don't like about Windows. I'm going to express what I dislike whether Matt or Tom like it or not and I know they will too, because it's not life or death :P

xxMATTGxx

02-09-2011, 08:30 PM

I don't care about that. There are things I don't like about OS X. There are things I don't like about Windows. I'm going to express what I dislike whether Matt or Tom like it or not and I know they will too, because it's not life or death :P

Don't get so upset over the matter Dear David. Express all you like about Windows 8 but I just wished your first post actually said more!

HotelUser

03-09-2011, 02:22 AM

Don't get so upset over the matter Dear David. Express all you like about Windows 8 but I just wished your first post actually said more!

I wish yours accepted the very notion that perhaps everything out of your home companies doors is not shimmering in golden beauty. I'm aware and hoping they change the UI to look more attractive prior to other releases but I'm not talking about those releases. I am talking about the release of Windows the screenshot posted was taken from, and to repeat my initial point it looks like pure crap.

Wig44.

03-09-2011, 02:45 AM

Engadget lololol nothing to see here folks

xxMATTGxx

03-09-2011, 07:32 AM

I wish yours accepted the very notion that perhaps everything out of your home companies doors is not shimmering in golden beauty. I'm aware and hoping they change the UI to look more attractive prior to other releases but I'm not talking about those releases. I am talking about the release of Windows the screenshot posted was taken from, and to repeat my initial point it looks like pure crap.

"I am talking about the release of Windows the screenshot posted was taken from, and to repeat my initial point it looks like pure crap."

and that release is a Build XXXX which isn't the final version or even Beta nor is the UI final.

peteyt

07-09-2011, 07:17 PM

"I am talking about the release of Windows the screenshot posted was taken from, and to repeat my initial point it looks like pure crap."

and that release is a Build XXXX which isn't the final version or even Beta nor is the UI final.

Lmao. Sorry but I prefer Windows over Mac but this argument is stupid.

If someone showed you a Beta of a website said its going to be ages till it is finished and they are just trying a few different things, and you didn't like something you'd say. You wouldn't think oh its a beta, it's going to change so I'm not going to give my opinion.

People need to just calm down. Windows has its features, Mac has its features they both have differences, they both have similarities, and I really wish people could simply accept that. I don't mind people criticising either, but when ever someone posts something about either, instead of debating what you think about the news, it turns out into a war, as if people have to drag the other in. And the problem is if a mac fan say's something they don't like about Windows, e.g. don't like the new look, they get shot down, as if they are only saying it because they are a mac fan, and vice versa.

HotelUser

07-09-2011, 07:47 PM

I will probably end up liking the finger friendly UI on Windows 8 which includes the start menu and button (or whatever they become) in the final release. I just don't like how it looks in this current release :P

GommeInc

07-09-2011, 08:01 PM

xxMATTGxx

07-09-2011, 09:02 PM

My loves, please, stop fighting and just hug already :P Mac OS X Snow Leopard and Lion were just Service Packs you pay for, Apple have patents they shouldn't be allowed to create and Jobs' legacy is leaving this world knowing he has created more court cases than is physically possible.

<insert something imperfect about Microsoft here>

EDIT: Is it actually current release, or just a sampler video of an OS that seems to be in the early stages of development? It probably won't turn up on the final product - caring about something that is months/years ahead of us is unwise :P

I'm not actually sure, but BUILD is next week where they will be showing the next version of Windows. It might be called "Windows 8" it might not, there's stories going round that 8 is just still a codename for the time being. Either way, the version they show at BUILD will also have some missing features that will get added at a later stage.

Chippiewill

07-09-2011, 09:25 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/windows-8-start-menu-caught-on-camera-shows-off-high-contrast-d/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/08/start.jpg

Arrrrgghghhgghhhhshhhh
There comes a point where you are intentionally trying to slander windows to annoy, or you're just being plain dumb. It's not difficult to realise that:

a) It's not final
b) It's probably a UI test/bug
c) It's probably a programmer screwing around with stuff which incidentally got screen captured because some eejit realised that every tech blog and their mothers and yourself would immediately assume "Oh that's final and I guess this is what windows is like from now on since everything non-apple must be terrible.".
d) You're a troll. Stop trolling.

HotelUser

07-09-2011, 09:26 PM

There comes a point where you are intentionally trying to slander windows to annoy, or you're just being plain dumb. It's not difficult to realise that:

a) It's not final
b) It's probably a UI test/bug
c) It's probably a programmer screwing around with stuff which incidentally got screen captured because some eejit realised that every tech blog and their mothers and yourself would immediately assume "Oh that's final and I guess this is what windows is like from now on since everything non-apple must be terrible.".
d) You're a troll. Stop trolling.

I will probably end up liking the finger friendly UI on Windows 8 which includes the start menu and button (or whatever they become) in the final release. I just don't like how it looks in this current release :P

Speaking about being dumb, read the thread.

Chippiewill

07-09-2011, 09:28 PM

Speaking about being dumb, read the thread.

Yes, I realised that you made many petty attempts in the course of this thread in order to make it look as though you were not intentionally trying to trick members into thinking it was final but you fully well knew when posting that you were trying to annoy Matt and Tom at the same time.

Ardemax

07-09-2011, 09:36 PM

I didn't know Windows 8 was being worked on (im a bit behind) so I guess this is good news.

I know it's obvious it isn't the final build/idea, so I'm hoping some more "ideas" will be leaked/released soon :)

HotelUser

08-09-2011, 11:25 AM

Yes, I realised that you made many petty attempts in the course of this thread in order to make it look as though you were not intentionally trying to trick members into thinking it was final but you fully well knew when posting that you were trying to annoy Matt and Tom at the same time.

This start bar is ugly, I thought it was ugly, I posted the thread. I am a Windows user and have said numerous times I'm buying a W8 tablet - so give it a break. I've seen many Apple threads with a negative stint created by many "Windows fanboys" of the forum and it's odd, I don't see you saying what you're saying here there. Double standard much!

Recursion

08-09-2011, 01:09 PM

This start bar is ugly, I thought it was ugly, I posted the thread. I am a Windows user and have said numerous times I'm buying a W8 tablet - so give it a break. I've seen many Apple threads with a negative stint created by many "Windows fanboys" of the forum and it's odd, I don't see you saying what you're saying here there. Double standard much!

1. You haven't
2. What happened to the iPad being the be all and end all of tablets?! :O

Chippiewill

08-09-2011, 04:40 PM

This start bar is ugly, I thought it was ugly, I posted the thread. I am a Windows user and have said numerous times I'm buying a W8 tablet - so give it a break.
a) Couldn't give a rats ass about you buying a W8 tablet
b) This thread was worded so that it would troll, and probably intentionally. You knew that was ugly, you also knew it wasn't final or similar, you as a web developer should know that stuff in development looks wierd, wrong or bugged because it's not finish. You'd be annoyed if someone said a layout or code of yours was terrible when it's incomplete.
c) You shouldn't buy something which is "ugly" in your eyes. Nor should you say you will buy something before determining the quality.

I've seen many Apple threads with a negative stint created by many "Windows fanboys" of the forum and it's odd, I don't see you saying what you're saying here there. Double standard much!
a) Normally they have a logical justification behind (However biased)
b) I don't think either Matt or Tom have ever created a thread with purpose to troll you.

HotelUser

08-09-2011, 07:10 PM

1. You haven't
2. What happened to the iPad being the be all and end all of tablets?! :O

1. I have directly to you on MSN, "maybe your Microsoft Windows Live Messenger isn't working" (I joke I joke!!)
2. I love my iPad to bits. I also bought an HP TouchPad with hopes of Android, and am buying a Windows 8 tablet. And?

a) Couldn't give a rats ass about you buying a W8 tablet
b) This thread was worded so that it would troll, and probably intentionally. You knew that was ugly, you also knew it wasn't final or similar, you as a web developer should know that stuff in development looks wierd, wrong or bugged because it's not finish. You'd be annoyed if someone said a layout or code of yours was terrible when it's incomplete.
c) You shouldn't buy something which is "ugly" in your eyes. Nor should you say you will buy something before determining the quality.

a) Normally they have a logical justification behind (However biased)
b) I don't think either Matt or Tom have ever created a thread with purpose to troll you.

I didn't create a thread with the purpose of trolling anyone. As I said I saw the news on Engadget and posted it here. I've posted lots of threads based on Engadget articles. I can't say I'm surprised that even though I do it frequently, that you only take notice and throw around accusations when it's about Microsoft. Haha! Believe what you want I don't really care - I know why I posted it and I am content :P

thewarrior008

10-11-2012, 12:53 PM

http://www.engadget.com/2011/08/31/windows-8-start-menu-caught-on-camera-shows-off-high-contrast-d/

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2011/08/start.jpg

Arrrrgghghhgghhhhshhhh

Very ugly Start Menu! I've been using Classic Shell for the past weeks. It seems to be the best out there.

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