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HotelUser
15-09-2011, 08:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4MwTvtyrUQ&feature=player_embedded

Casanova
15-09-2011, 08:13 PM
That's just diabolical.
That shows americans in a bad light. Thank god they didn't try it in Britain!

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 08:14 PM
I've searched the internet for hours, where is the download link to Yahoo Browser :(

xxMATTGxx
15-09-2011, 08:14 PM
David are you ashamed to live on top of that country?

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 08:15 PM
David are you ashamed to live on top of that country?

There's good and bad things about (almost) every country in the world. I'm not from America or American so I don't really care :P

Casanova
15-09-2011, 08:18 PM
You act american.
Yeah, I love yahoo browser.

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 08:22 PM
You act american.
Yeah, I love yahoo browser.

How can you compare one's actions as such to where they reside?

You live as close to Israel as I do America, so I suppose you act Israeli?

xxMATTGxx
15-09-2011, 08:23 PM
How can you compare one's actions as such to where they reside?

You live as close to Israel as I do America, so I suppose you act Israeli?

I don't remember the UK being on the border of Israel to be honest! Not that I'm agreeing with what he said, before you get that idea.

GoldenMerc
15-09-2011, 08:24 PM
How can you compare one's actions as such to where they reside?

You live as close to Israel as I do America, so I suppose you act Israeli?

Allan you just got served
and lol that video's class

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 08:24 PM
I don't remember the UK being on the border of Israel to be honest! Not that I'm agreeing with what he said before you get that idea.

No but it's close.

Anyways if anyone's to go with behaviour like you belong to a specific region then I behave like a Canadian, not an American?????

lawrawrrr
15-09-2011, 08:24 PM
oh dear lord. Even my granddad knows what the difference between a browser and a search engine!!

Casanova
15-09-2011, 08:25 PM
How can you compare one's actions as such to where they reside?

You live as close to Israel as I do America, so I suppose you act Israeli?
It was a joke. it was a stereotype. Please, keep your blood pressure at a reasonable rate.

Also, the term "americanism". Look at george bush!
I'm 100% scottish nothing else. People would assume I'm an aggressive brute (maybe I'm not the best to use in this instance!). Just for being scottish.

I guess for us it shows why we need better social education, something to let our communities and countries excel with the tools and tech we have. I think that's why it's extremely important as a country our 4G spectrum is up asap, our whole country has broadband by at least 2020 like the government intend and to actually get our people to know the amazing tools we have! (I giggled at the last bit, i nearly added amazing tools... in our hands! lmfao).

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 08:32 PM
It was a joke. it was a stereotype. Please, keep your blood pressure at a reasonable rate.

Also, the term "americanism". Look at george bush!
I'm 100% scottish nothing else. People would assume I'm an aggressive brute (maybe I'm not the best to use in this instance!). Just for being scottish.

I guess for us it shows why we need better social education, something to let our communities and countries excel with the tools and tech we have. I think that's why it's extremely important as a country our 4G spectrum is up asap, our whole country has broadband by at least 2020 like the government intend and to actually get our people to know the amazing tools we have! (I giggled at the last bit, i nearly added amazing tools... in our hands! lmfao).

In Canada and I believe possible other places we do not have 4G. We have 3G. However the phone companies convinced the regulators to change the definition of 4G to include lower speed minimums, and ignore different sorts of technology (thus meaning an older HSPA+ or WCDMA network would qualify as 4G if it reached the "minimum speed requirement" even though LTE is what I'd consider to be actually able to offer 4G service).

To make a long story short the primary phone carrier in Canada, Bell Mobility announced recently that they're now a 4G network! However none of their infrastructure was upgraded at all and they're still using the same old WCDMA 21mbps capable towers. Nothing new was added and nothing was upgraded. The only thing that changed was a definition of one term.

To make matters even more pathetic Bell advertises their 4G speeds as upto 421mbps. They say in advertisements that 4G speeds allow for connections upto 42mbps however there's two spots in Canada which have such speeds. The speed where I live for each tower is 7mbps, shared amongst everyone on the tower, yet we're told Bell is a 4G network with speeds upto 42mbps when regionally we don't even have 21mbs anywhere in the province or the surrounding areas.

Also, Bell advertises LTE coverage:

http://www.bell.ca/shopping/PrsShpWls_Coverage.page

Check off the LTE radio. Do you see any LTE coverage? I don't.

Casanova
15-09-2011, 08:34 PM
see we're the same.
our law's are pretty much similar, a tad more tight but not far off that issue.

It really annoys me, especially when they're all going slow to buy up and get this auction going.

xxMATTGxx
15-09-2011, 08:35 PM
see we're the same.
our law's are pretty much similar, a tad more tight but not far off that issue.

It really annoys me, especially when they're all going slow to buy up and get this auction going.

Canada have it worst for mobile networks, by going off what David has said to me in the past. Then again, from what I've heard the US mobile networks aren't that great either.

Casanova
15-09-2011, 08:37 PM
they all claim 4G yet none of them operate at actual 4G speed's defined as 4G, just their terming makes it seem so.
Sorry for pulling off topic!

My dad wouldn't have a clue the difference between engine and browser :P.

HotelUser
15-09-2011, 08:41 PM
see we're the same.
our law's are pretty much similar, a tad more tight but not far off that issue.

It really annoys me, especially when they're all going slow to buy up and get this auction going.

Lets compare!

The only thing worth comparing between carriers is data plans and smartphones these days so lets do that.

A Bell Mobility iPhone 4 costs $100 on a 3 year contract and after system access fees and tax comes to $60 a month in which you get:
- 200 minutes
- 500mb data
- unlimited texting

The last time Tom Matt and I compared plans Canada & the USA lost out bigtime because we have 3 year contracts and more expensive data.

Casanova
15-09-2011, 08:46 PM
Lets compare!

The only thing worth comparing between carriers is data plans and smartphones these days so lets do that.

A Bell Mobility iPhone 4 costs $100 on a 3 year contract and after system access fees and tax comes to $60 a month in which you get:
- 200 minutes
- 500mb data
- unlimited texting

The last time Tom Matt and I compared plans Canada & the USA lost out bigtime because we have 3 year contracts and more expensive data.

iPhone £41 per month, 24 month contract (Handset £free for 16GB) Orange UK [everything everywhere]

900 xnet minutes
3000 xnet texts
1GB web
Email
2GB free BT openzone wifi

also, added extra's like 2-4-1 cinema, upto 6 magic numbers (other users on the same network, you get free unlimited call to those you nominate), a free movie to watch each thursday, best 3G coverage of the UK.

GommeInc
15-09-2011, 09:39 PM
Hmm, not sure what to think. My brain says they've probably got better things to care about while at the same time saying they're a bit stupid. At least some people deduced what browsers are and what search engines do. Quite shocked by the younger people who didn't understand what each one does. The Google Chrome question was a bit pointless, they may not have a care in the world for Chrome or different types of browser, so they just use Internet Explorer to browse, and assume Google does the browsing for them :P

HotelUser
16-09-2011, 02:19 AM
iPhone £41 per month, 24 month contract (Handset £free for 16GB) Orange UK [everything everywhere]

900 xnet minutes
3000 xnet texts
1GB web
Email
2GB free BT openzone wifi

also, added extra's like 2-4-1 cinema, upto 6 magic numbers (other users on the same network, you get free unlimited call to those you nominate), a free movie to watch each thursday, best 3G coverage of the UK.

Since the original iPhone came out and since smartphones started dominating the cell phone industry there's been lee-way from our carriers in terms of better plans but nothing like the one you've listed here. Probably within the next ten years or so we'll have something like that!


Hmm, not sure what to think. My brain says they've probably got better things to care about while at the same time saying they're a bit stupid. At least some people deduced what browsers are and what search engines do. Quite shocked by the younger people who didn't understand what each one does. The Google Chrome question was a bit pointless, they may not have a care in the world for Chrome or different types of browser, so they just use Internet Explorer to browse, and assume Google does the browsing for them :P

I think most people aren't power users and buy machines for the price point, not necessarily for what it comes with in terms of software, then when they get it aren't overly picky about the software they have on it itself (such as a web browser). As losers people like us who spend well-- probably too much time on the computer I think it's safe to say we're a lot more picky about our specifications and what we're doing and how we do it on our computers so it's shocking to see other people completely clueless about it :P

Ardemax
16-09-2011, 03:39 PM
And that kids, is why America shouldn't be the worlds' leading superpower.

Recursion
16-09-2011, 04:56 PM
And that kids, is why America shouldn't be the worlds' leading superpower.

I thought China overtook the USA?

GommeInc
16-09-2011, 10:45 PM
I thought China overtook the USA?
China are ahead economically, but they do not have control over the economy in general - the USA does (dollar standard blah blah blah). I think China might be the largest super power, but the power is in the West and in the hands of the US.

peteyt
17-09-2011, 03:44 AM
Funny video but remember it's only showing the bad ones really

Smurfed-
17-09-2011, 04:12 PM
I have to say that this video is... DESPICABLE! D:

October
17-09-2011, 04:31 PM
A browser is an application used to access web sites on the Internet, and a search engine is something used to locate content across the 'Net, right?

BTW I'd like to state that you can't assume everyone in that video was American; it was taken in NYC which is a popular place for tourism and hosts thousands of people from around the world on a given day, not to mention it is the home of the United Nations, just sayin'. :P

Mathew
17-09-2011, 04:50 PM
I think you'd be pretty stupid to generalise that clip to all Americans lol; there was a British woman in there for a start. Still, they're obviously only showing the bad ones blahblahblah.

October
17-09-2011, 04:54 PM
China are ahead economically, but they do not have control over the economy in general - the USA does (dollar standard blah blah blah). I think China might be the largest super power, but the power is in the West and in the hands of the US.China isn't a super power; the U.S. is the world's sole super power lol...
for now.

and what mathew said.

GommeInc
18-09-2011, 12:43 AM
China isn't a super power; the U.S. is the world's sole super power lol...
for now.

and what mathew said.
It is, and the world is filled with super powers :S The British Empire was a super power, China is a super power as it has a huge hold over the world economy (woo, exploiting their cheap labour <3), Japan is also a super power, the British Commonwealth, the USA... The list is endless and pretty flexible :P The USA hold most of the cards with regards to controlling the world economy, but China IS a super power as it has a lot of hold over the its own economy, people, industries etc. etc. Heck, people fear it because of the powers it possesses :P

October
18-09-2011, 03:47 AM
It is, and the world is filled with super powers :S The British Empire was a super power, China is a super power as it has a huge hold over the world economy (woo, exploiting their cheap labour <3), Japan is also a super power, the British Commonwealth, the USA... The list is endless and pretty flexible :P The USA hold most of the cards with regards to controlling the world economy, but China IS a super power as it has a lot of hold over the its own economy, people, industries etc. etc. Heck, people fear it because of the powers it possesses :PIt's close, but it isn't a super power. Brazil will overtake us before China.

As for Britain, they were. A long time ago.

Recursion
18-09-2011, 09:22 AM
It's close, but it isn't a super power. Brazil will overtake us before China.

As for Britain, they were. A long time ago.

Yes, they are.

October
18-09-2011, 09:28 AM
Yes, they are.No, since the end of the Cold War and the dismantlement of the USSR, the U.S. has been the world's sole super power. China is a potential super power.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpower

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_superpowers


Also, the U.S. is still the world's largest economy, despite the financial crisis. That's one of the reasons why it's such a big deal and effects the global economy.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States

Recursion
18-09-2011, 04:13 PM
No, since the end of the Cold War and the dismantlement of the USSR, the U.S. has been the world's sole super power. China is a potential super power.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpower

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_superpowers


Also, the U.S. is still the world's largest economy, despite the financial crisis. That's one of the reasons why it's such a big deal and effects the global economy.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States

God damn, +REP to you :P

GommeInc
18-09-2011, 04:15 PM
No, since the end of the Cold War and the dismantlement of the USSR, the U.S. has been the world's sole super power. China is a potential super power.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superpower

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potential_superpowers


Also, the U.S. is still the world's largest economy, despite the financial crisis. That's one of the reasons why it's such a big deal and effects the global economy.

https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/us.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_the_United_States
Hmm, you're using some sort of political super power as the definition, when everyone else is using economic, military and overall "power" as their definition of "super power". China is a super power, the US leech off of super powers to raise themselves in a political, economic super power environment, yet if you remove China from the equation the leech that is the US would shrivel up and die. It's a huge discussion about globalisation we're heading into :P The US are merely the economic and political hub where the world's economy is centralised (dollar gold standard etc.), but economically China is a super power too as they have a huge economy, one of the world's largest and considering they're not the world standard for global economics, they're doing pretty damn well. The US are only considered "the" super power because they hold a superficial title branded by global powers so they can standardise everything for the sake of better integrating the world.

The US is still the largest economic power, but some may say that's luck seeing as they were put into that position.

Also, using Wikipedia as a source is bad :P The case for bias and limited resources makes it difficult to use it a primary source of information, and the CIA's world factbook is based on stereotypes - have you read their factbook on the UK? In the past they believed that Britons don't like staring people in the face and do not like to be touched. I think there was a mention of tea in there.

EDIT: The grammar in the potential super power page for Wikipedia is dreadful. It suggest that only one nation can be a super power, yet reading the article it suggests "potential" super powers to be "a state that is speculated to be, or to be in the process of becoming, a superpower at some point in the 21st century." So assuming the Wikipedia is contradicting itself, then yes you can have more than one super power, as to speculate more than one country become a super power in a certain amount of time suggests that more than one supoer power can exist at any point in time. Especially when it uses the word "becoming" to suggest again that more than one super power can exist at any one point in time....

This is why I disagree with Wikipedia articles, they contradict themselves and move away from the point they are trying to convey.

Also, the first Wikipedia article you linked to "Super power" suggests that there are other super powrs other than the US, and there is much debate as to what influences the US have over the globe to best secure their own interests - China is an example of that, China hate it when the US interfere and many other countries in the world will disagree that the US has any direct polical powers over them (China, India etc.) and the US has been in a lot of trouble over this before. If anything, the title of super power is superficial, which many academics will tell you (Steger, 2009) and a few others.

In short, the words "super power" is subject to debate, and though China doesn't hold some superficial title granted to them by the globe, they hold a lot of powers. Some say it is a super power right now, just not officially :P

October
19-09-2011, 12:20 AM
Hmm, you're using some sort of political super power as the definition, when everyone else is using economic, military and overall "power" as their definition of "super power". China is a super power, the US leech off of super powers to raise themselves in a political, economic super power environment, yet if you remove China from the equation the leech that is the US would shrivel up and die. It's a huge discussion about globalisation we're heading into :P The US are merely the economic and political hub where the world's economy is centralised (dollar gold standard etc.), but economically China is a super power too as they have a huge economy, one of the world's largest and considering they're not the world standard for global economics, they're doing pretty damn well. The US are only considered "the" super power because they hold a superficial title branded by global powers so they can standardise everything for the sake of better integrating the world.

The US is still the largest economic power, but some may say that's luck seeing as they were put into that position.

Also, using Wikipedia as a source is bad :P The case for bias and limited resources makes it difficult to use it a primary source of information, and the CIA's world factbook is based on stereotypes - have you read their factbook on the UK? In the past they believed that Britons don't like staring people in the face and do not like to be touched. I think there was a mention of tea in there.

EDIT: The grammar in the potential super power page for Wikipedia is dreadful. It suggest that only one nation can be a super power, yet reading the article it suggests "potential" super powers to be "a state that is speculated to be, or to be in the process of becoming, a superpower at some point in the 21st century." So assuming the Wikipedia is contradicting itself, then yes you can have more than one super power, as to speculate more than one country become a super power in a certain amount of time suggests that more than one supoer power can exist at any point in time. Especially when it uses the word "becoming" to suggest again that more than one super power can exist at any one point in time....

This is why I disagree with Wikipedia articles, they contradict themselves and move away from the point they are trying to convey.

Also, the first Wikipedia article you linked to "Super power" suggests that there are other super powrs other than the US, and there is much debate as to what influences the US have over the globe to best secure their own interests - China is an example of that, China hate it when the US interfere and many other countries in the world will disagree that the US has any direct polical powers over them (China, India etc.) and the US has been in a lot of trouble over this before. If anything, the title of super power is superficial, which many academics will tell you (Steger, 2009) and a few others.

In short, the words "super power" is subject to debate, and though China doesn't hold some superficial title granted to them by the globe, they hold a lot of powers. Some say it is a super power right now, just not officially :PIt doesn't say that anywhere in the Factbook. As for Wikipedia, oh well. I'm not going to argue my point anymore cause it won't get no where, but the U.S. is dominant in almost every field and influences every other country. Not sure where you got the idea I was considering political powers.

GommeInc
19-09-2011, 12:36 AM
It doesn't say that anywhere in the Factbook. As for Wikipedia, oh well. I'm not going to argue my point anymore cause it won't get no where, but the U.S. is dominant in almost every field and influences every other country. Not sure where you got the idea I was considering political powers.
I guess you did say the US was the main super power 'for now' in your original post, we're pretty much arguing semantics about what a super power is and could go on for hours :P

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