Doctors are useless

[Richie]

I went to my gp earlier on in the week with chest pain, a headache and shortness of breath, he told me I'm stressed when I'm clearly not and i don't know how it could relate to constant chest pain. I've been like this since sunday, i really hope i don't die just yet i have so many skills to pursue on runescape. Na but seriously, i dunno what the hell to do lol.


Since I'm "stressed" I'm actually sat here listening to stuff like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96SxKk0zeek

[Casanova]

it IS stress.
Promise you. I had the same, with palpitations, head swooning etc.

my blood pressure and stress levels were sky high.
remember you can be unaware - for me i had NO clue what it was i was stressed about, but I was having serious panics.

[Richie]

it IS stress.
Promise you. I had the same, with palpitations, head swooning etc.

my blood pressure and stress levels were sky high.
remember you can be unaware - for me i had NO clue what it was i was stressed about, but I was having serious panics.


But what would that have to do with shortness of breath? I know this is going to sound ridiculous but my head feels like its dead and needs a big gasp of air lol

[Casanova]

i had it. it felt like everytime you breathed you got half of what you needed so then you sit there consciously trying to achieve a better breath? STRESS. it sounds so stupid though. i then believed it when I collapsed :P it's stress.

[Richie]

alright cheers pal, any idea on how long you had it for?

[Inseriousity.]

I went to my gp earlier on in the week with chest pain, a headache and shortness of breath, he told me I'm stressed when I'm clearly not and i don't know how it could relate to constant chest pain. I've been like this since sunday, i really hope i don't die just yet i have so many skills to pursue on runescape. Na but seriously, i dunno what the hell to do lol.


Since I'm "stressed" I'm actually sat here listening to stuff like this...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96SxKk0zeek

Well you could level up, do some quests, go to sorceress' garden again. :P

I do think stress is a big factor in people's health so less stress the better so I'd definitely consider it. Listening to peaceful music doesn't make you less stressful though, it's trying to improve what's causing you to be stressed in the first place ;)

[Casanova]

you can't measure it Richie.
For me, it meant sitting down and realising all the issues/problems I had and working out a viable plan.

Really it's just trying to actively working for a change. to control the issue instead of it controlling you. it could be something as stupid as self image, a relationship problem. for me it was a culmination of insomnia, work related stress, family issues and a giant partying lifestyle :P.

note the fact now I go out a lotttttt less and I'm on here a lottttt more!!

[Wig44.]

Obviously your doctor who has had years of education and experience is useless. I feel sorry for doctors now, some can be dismissive but they all seem to be treated as if they don't know what they are talking about by every member of the public who 'knows better'. They don't spend years at university twiddling their thumbs you know.

@Above: You can measure the biochemistry of stress, thus measuring stress.

[Casanova]

Obviously your doctor who has had years of education and experience is useless. I feel sorry for doctors now, some can be dismissive but they all seem to be treated as if they don't know what they are talking about by every member of the public who 'knows better'. They don't spend years at university twiddling their thumbs you know.

@Above: You can measure the biochemistry of stress, thus measuring stress.

Yeah, every GP has the capabilities and equipment to measure stress.
what absolute crap.

[-:Undertaker:-]

If medical problems persist then continue going back and insisting on checkups/all possible routes, far too many times have doctors on the over-stretched NHS described life-threatening conditions as 'stress related' or 'depression' - don't accept pity pills from them either.

The same most likely applies in the Irish Republic, but i'm not sure as to what scale.

[Wig44.]

Yeah, every GP has the capabilities and equipment to measure stress.
what absolute crap.
You need to educate yourself before posting, all I ever see you post is rubbish.

Cortisol, the stress hormone (doesn't everyone know this?) is easily measured through a simple blood analysis. So yes, all GPs outside of a third world country have the resources to measure cortisol in the blood, obviously this doctor used his initiative and saved taxpayer money by identifying and diagnosing a high stress level without resorting to testing a blood sample.

[Casanova]

it's not very ecconomical though is it!?
Why would you spend money on a nurse withdrawing the blood, storing it, sending it to a lab, a lab tech checking it, processing, results then results sent back? then a doctor to call you back in to say... oh yeah you've got stress.

That's why it's absolute crap.
I've never known why on earth anyone would want to waste time like that. Evidently you seem to think stress is so serious you need to get verification. I could appreciate it if the treatment could cause further damage but it mostly won't.

And yes I'm aware of the chemical reactions caused by stress/anxiety.
Might I add the levels you would need to measure would normally need to be at a peak for it to indicate stress and not just 'life' :rolleyes:.

[Wig44.]

it's not very ecconomical though is it!?
Why would you spend money on a nurse withdrawing the blood, storing it, sending it to a lab, a lab tech checking it, processing, results then results sent back? then a doctor to call you back in to say... oh yeah you've got stress.

That's why it's absolute crap.
I've never known why on earth anyone would want to waste time like that. Evidently you seem to think stress is so serious you need to get verification. I could appreciate it if the treatment could cause further damage but it mostly won't.

And yes I'm aware of the chemical reactions caused by stress/anxiety.
Might I add the levels you would need to measure would normally need to be at a peak for it to indicate stress and not just 'life' :rolleyes:.
Firstly, your point was that GPs do not have the capacity to measure cortisol. I have shown they do. Secondly, read my post again. How about I quote it and embolden the part you should have read?


You need to educate yourself before posting, all I ever see you post is rubbish.

Cortisol, the stress hormone (doesn't everyone know this?) is easily measured through a simple blood analysis. So yes, all GPs outside of a third world country have the resources to measure cortisol in the blood, obviously this doctor used his initiative and saved taxpayer money by identifying and diagnosing a high stress level without resorting to testing a blood sample.

There you go, hopefully you can read that now.

[Casanova]

you're patronising.
Might i add we both have crossed wires.

I knew you could measure the chemicals resulting FROM stress but I was actually talking about measuring stress in the form of... how long it lasts. You can't measure that.

Now before you accuse me of back tracking, I flung myself into arguing with you but you also assumed an aggressive position too.

I wish I actually read this **** sometimes.

[Aaron]

Yeah I agree with what is said below, it is stress. Can't tell you when it'll stop, for each person it's different.

Hopefully not to long though.

[Richie]

I think it must of been stress, I'm not short of breath or have chest pain but i have been getting constant headaches for a good two weeks now and paracetamol doesn't even seem to work, so i'm getting a little worried, i may go back to the doctors on Friday but they'll look at me like I'm an overreacting attention seeking *****.

[tdi]

Probably. If I had trained for years dedicating much of my spare time and effort to become a fully qualified doctor, I'd be quite annoyed if, since diagnosing some kid with a condition returns within the space of a few weeks doubting my intelligence and telling me I'm wrong.

For the record, YES. It is stress. I often get stressed in my job and get stress headaches behind my eye. When you're stressed you get worked up and it affects your breathing, though you may not notice. Similarly, I also get shortage of breath if I'm particualrly stressed. Chill oot.