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I know that we post sort of news-ish kind of things in the Habbo in general section, but habbo in general kind of suggests that anything related to habbo that isn't trading or news goes in there. I posted a pretty pointless, funny (to me) picture, and it has been moved to spam...
I thought spam was non-habbo related generally so i thought since my image was actually general habbo stuff it should stay there and not go to spam?
( http://Habbox.com/assets/images/434/1317300555_flyfly.png )
Stephen
29-09-2011, 01:28 PM
How exactly is anyone going to make a habbo related discussion out of that
^ Easy questions like that don't take much of a brain to answer
Like I was getting at - It wasn't go discuss anything? It was purely a HABBO RELATED image, which I put in the Habbo in General section :) Spam isn't habbo related so my picture shouldn't have been sent there. Spam or not.
Chris
29-09-2011, 03:12 PM
The thread was pointless though and all pointless threads belong to spam. Just because the image was habbo related it doesn't mean that it should go in the habbo forums. :P
Mathew
29-09-2011, 03:55 PM
A spam section for Habbo specifically would be cool, just so people can post pointless things like "omg I need a HC sofa quick!!" People would use it for quick room advertising, or just to have a quick moan about something which had happened. I'd view and use it as it would be a lot more flexible and free than the current sections.
You'd get moaned at if you posted Habbo related things in Spam.
You'd get moaned at by moderators if you posted it in Habbo in General... you just can't win! :P
A spam section for Habbo specifically would be cool, just so people can post pointless things like "omg I need a HC sofa quick!!" People would use it for quick room advertising, or just to have a quick moan about something which had happened. I'd view and use it as it would be a lot more flexible and free than the current sections.
You'd get moaned at if you posted Habbo related things in Spam.
You'd get moaned at by moderators if you posted it in Habbo in General... you just can't win! :P
A habbo spam section would be great! I really think there should be one. :)
Mathew
29-09-2011, 04:12 PM
It would most certainly increase posting too because people would use it to post innuendos and rubbish like the Staff Quotes thread. I'd use it as extra advertising for events or if I needed a quick furni. I just think there's two very clear groups of people on Habbox: those who play Habbo and those who don't. Leave the general spam for everyone; take advantage of the cliques and have one specifically for Habbo.
Jordan
29-09-2011, 04:16 PM
I don't know why you would create threads in a spam section for room advertisement and furniture trades when there are sections for that already? I'm not a fan of a spam thread though for Habbo anyway:P
AgnesIO
29-09-2011, 04:17 PM
A Habbo spam section would barely be used imo, or it would be a new member place.
Not being ude, but whenever someone posts a 'LOL SO FUNNY' thread or something about Habbo it really isn't funny. Ever.
Catzsy
29-09-2011, 04:31 PM
I did suggest spam forums for all main categories such as Habbo, Sports, Runescape etc. I think it would add a lot to the forum and make it quite unique.
AgnesIO
29-09-2011, 04:35 PM
I did suggest spam forums for all main categories such as Habbo, Sports, Runescape etc. I think it would add a lot to the forum and make it quite unique.
Sport isn't used anymore anyway :P
Catzsy
29-09-2011, 04:39 PM
Sport isn't used anymore anyway :P
Well it might be if there was a spam 'section'. :P
AgnesIO
29-09-2011, 04:42 PM
Well it might be if there was a spam 'section'. :P
IMO the problem would be where people stop using the actual forums and start just using the spam ones - the current spam section used to always be the most popular.
Mathew
29-09-2011, 04:46 PM
I don't know why you would create threads in a spam section for room advertisement and furniture trades when there are sections for that already? I'm not a fan of a spam thread though for Habbo anyway:P
Because there are silly rules like this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=627240) that completely kill posting, kill discussions and make the trading forum an absolute bore to browse. I'd be more inclined to post a quick note in spam, asking for an item, rather than posting an official thread in there. My trades are usually a spur of the moment thing too, so the chatty element of spam would cater for this.
A Habbo spam section would barely be used imo, or it would be a new member place.
Not being ude, but whenever someone posts a 'LOL SO FUNNY' thread or something about Habbo it really isn't funny. Ever.
Very much like the UK, Habbox has an ageing population and there's probably more people who are 16+ than ever before. If I was a new member, I'd be more inclined to post quick notes in a spam section specifically for Habbo than commit myself to a thread; partly out of fear of it being against the rules or "pointless posting"....
I did suggest spam forums for all main categories such as Habbo, Sports, Runescape etc. I think it would add a lot to the forum and make it quite unique.
Exactly. Habbox should be taking advantage of the different cliques which have popped up around the forum and I think it would be quite a nice addition.
GommeInc
29-09-2011, 04:52 PM
Urgh, please no more forums, especially duplicates. Just move it to Habbo In General as it clearly fits under that: "Habbo In General: Talk about anything related to Habbo, including questions." People in Spam hate Habbo related threads in the Spam forum.
Besides, if the thread really is that useless that not many people will discuss the signature - then surely it will just rot in the Habbo In General forum anyway? It wouldn't make much difference, except the Habbo stuff is kept in the Habbo area - better that than a Habbo Spam forum :rolleyes:
wixard
29-09-2011, 04:58 PM
i'd use a habbo spam forum
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 07:27 AM
Because there are silly rules like this (http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=627240) that completely kill posting, kill discussions and make the trading forum an absolute bore to browse. I'd be more inclined to post a quick note in spam, asking for an item, rather than posting an official thread in there. My trades are usually a spur of the moment thing too, so the chatty element of spam would cater for this.
Very much like the UK, Habbox has an ageing population and there's probably more people who are 16+ than ever before. If I was a new member, I'd be more inclined to post quick notes in a spam section specifically for Habbo than commit myself to a thread; partly out of fear of it being against the rules or "pointless posting"....
Exactly. Habbox should be taking advantage of the different cliques which have popped up around the forum and I think it would be quite a nice addition.
I do think it would. It would attract more to the forum and I am sure that technology and runescape would like it too. There would be one thread where they could chat regardless of the content and I still think the main sections would be used. Maybe it could be trialled in one or two forums for say a month to see if it works.
I don't know why you would create threads in a spam section for room advertisement and furniture trades when there are sections for that already? I'm not a fan of a spam thread though for Habbo anyway:P
Yeah but those sections are very formal kind of sections. A nice easier spam section which people do/would check often would get quick replies and be a laid back section for habbo-related spam. Yes my post was obviously spam and because I was bored but it was still habbo related and I don't like to post habbo stuff in the spam section because they hate it!
A Habbo spam section would barely be used imo, or it would be a new member place.
Not being ude, but whenever someone posts a 'LOL SO FUNNY' thread or something about Habbo it really isn't funny. Ever.
I think it would be used, actually ;)
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 09:42 AM
Or you could make away with formalities which put people off of Habbox and just have the one Spam forum, and just have simple things like this posted in Habbo In General or their respectful forums regardless of strict obeying of the content. The assumption that anything with a mild bit of humour and point is deemed unfit and pointless makes the mind boggle.
Why does Habbox need at least 5 Spam forums? It's attempting to solve a problem that shouldn't exist, and do we really want the forum index to look God awful again?
A spam section for Habbo specifically would be cool, just so people can post pointless things like "omg I need a HC sofa quick!!" People would use it for quick room advertising, or just to have a quick moan about something which had happened. I'd view and use it as it would be a lot more flexible and free than the current sections.
You'd get moaned at if you posted Habbo related things in Spam.
You'd get moaned at by moderators if you posted it in Habbo in General... you just can't win! :P
A spam section for Habbo would be the worst idea ever implemented on this forum and would eventually fail...
Mathew
30-09-2011, 03:54 PM
Or you could make away with formalities which put people off of Habbox and just have the one Spam forum, and just have simple things like this posted in Habbo In General or their respectful forums regardless of strict obeying of the content. The assumption that anything with a mild bit of humour and point is deemed unfit and pointless makes the mind boggle.
It would be nice to just do away with formality and let people post as they please, but it would only be a matter of time before moderators revert back to their old ways and the line between pointless and not is yet again distorted.
A spam section for Habbo would be the worst idea ever implemented on this forum and would eventually fail...
Nice to see such an elaborate response.. :rolleyes:
I don't see the problem in giving it a trial as Rosie suggested. You cannot dispute the fact that it would significantly increase posting...
Inseriousity.
30-09-2011, 04:22 PM
It would be nice to just do away with formality and let people post as they please, but it would only be a matter of time before moderators revert back to their old ways and the line between pointless and not is yet again distorted.
Nice to see such an elaborate response.. :rolleyes:
I don't see the problem in giving it a trial as Rosie suggested. You cannot dispute the fact that it would significantly increase posting...
Not necessarily. The reason the spam Habbox Staff forum was taken away was precisely because it didn't increase posting at all. It meant everyone just used the spam forum because it's often more laidback in spam forums. Therefore gommeinc is right that we should not be adding laidback spam forums, we should be making the forum itself more laidback and allowing people to post threads like the example in the Habbo in general forum... or encouraging people to just stick two fingers up at those in the spam forum who, instead of just ignoring the "unfunny Habbo spam" threads, post abuse instead. Much easier to do the former though.
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 04:31 PM
It would be nice to just do away with formality and let people post as they please, but it would only be a matter of time before moderators revert back to their old ways and the line between pointless and not is yet again distorted.
Nice to see such an elaborate response.. :rolleyes:
I don't see the problem in giving it a trial as Rosie suggested. You cannot dispute the fact that it would significantly increase posting...
Well I think it might be worth a trial. Nobody really can predict what would happen as nobody has ever done it. If it does go to a trial then if members don't use it there is the answer. It is a fact that the original 'spamsters' are not keen on Habbo spam so it could be a win win.
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 04:50 PM
It would be nice to just do away with formality and let people post as they please, but it would only be a matter of time before moderators revert back to their old ways and the line between pointless and not is yet again distorted.
Nice to see such an elaborate response.. :rolleyes:
I don't see the problem in giving it a trial as Rosie suggested. You cannot dispute the fact that it would significantly increase posting...
Ah yeah, but "What colour are your curtains" type threads increase posting - would still prefer less threads than those though
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 05:09 PM
Urgh, please no more forums, especially duplicates. Just move it to Habbo In General as it clearly fits under that: "Habbo In General: Talk about anything related to Habbo, including questions." People in Spam hate Habbo related threads in the Spam forum.
Besides, if the thread really is that useless that not many people will discuss the signature - then surely it will just rot in the Habbo In General forum anyway? It wouldn't make much difference, except the Habbo stuff is kept in the Habbo area - better that than a Habbo Spam forum :rolleyes:
Or you could make away with formalities which put people off of Habbox and just have the one Spam forum, and just have simple things like this posted in Habbo In General or their respectful forums regardless of strict obeying of the content. The assumption that anything with a mild bit of humour and point is deemed unfit and pointless makes the mind boggle.
Why does Habbox need at least 5 Spam forums? It's attempting to solve a problem that shouldn't exist, and do we really want the forum index to look God awful again?
Not necessarily. The reason the spam Habbox Staff forum was taken away was precisely because it didn't increase posting at all. It meant everyone just used the spam forum because it's often more laidback in spam forums. Therefore gommeinc is right that we should not be adding laidback spam forums, we should be making the forum itself more laidback and allowing people to post threads like the example in the Habbo in general forum... or encouraging people to just stick two fingers up at those in the spam forum who, instead of just ignoring the "unfunny Habbo spam" threads, post abuse instead. Much easier to do the former though.
The reason that Habbox staff spam was discontinued was because the majority were just using this and not posting in the main forum - I would suggest that is an indication it would work. They don't have to be forums they could just be stickied spam threads in the popular forums. Habbo spam maybe unfunny to some people but you have to remember that we have a lot of younger users who probably do find it funny and it's not a useless thread to them. I would not like to see the 'pointless rule' discontinued outside of spam - it would be mayhem. Gomme, we are discussing this because a member would like it. I would suggest a stickied thread in Habbo in General for spam. As far as I know you do not use the Habbo forums. :Px
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 05:13 PM
The reason that Habbox staff spam was discontinued was because the majority were just using this and not posting in the main forum - I would suggest that is an indication it would work. They don't have to be forums they could just be stickied spam threads in the popular forums. Habbo spam maybe unfunny to some people but you have to remember that we have a lot of younger users who probably do find it funny and it's not a useless thread to them. I would not like to see the 'pointless rule' discontinued outside of spam - it would be mayhem. Gomme, we are discussing this because a member would like it. I would suggest a stickied thread in Habbo in General for spam. As far as I know you do not use the Habbo forums. :Px
If you have stickied spam threads, you may as well remove post count? Or give post count for posts in spam?
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 05:22 PM
If you have stickied spam threads, you may as well remove post count? Or give post count for posts in spam?
You have just found a flaw in my suggestion. Is it possible to remove post count from a thread?
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 05:24 PM
I don't see the problem in giving it a trial as Rosie suggested. You cannot dispute the fact that it would significantly increase posting...
How? Posts won't be counted so it's hopeless. There's no point putting it on trial because it would look incredibly untidy on the main forums (again). Just let people post relevant topics, which this one was, in the relevant forums (wow, common sense :/). I don't see why people assume uninteresting threads like this one are pointless. Uninteresting threads sink to the bottom of forums and disappear, while "pointless" (or irrelevant, as is the case) are ones that people enjoy but do not have a specific topic of discussion therefore leading to spontaneous discussions.
Just do away with formalities and tell the moderators to read a dictionary and grow some common sense, so formalities can be done away with so this fansite actually acts like a fansite and not some flailing corporate organisation which piggy backs needless systems and panders to bureaucracy until the cows come home.
I would suggest a stickied thread in Habbo in General for spam. As far as I know you do not use the Habbo forums. :Px
Wouldn't work. Spam comes in different flavours, therefore people will want to create their own threads to give their idea some thought and discussion. People will read a spam thread at different pages and therefore post replies to something that happened ages ago. It will be a complete mess.
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 05:31 PM
Wait guys I have an idea that might work? Since the majority of spam that is not just chit chat (eg the standard content of our spam forum) is habbo, why not create a sub forum in the spam section for Habbo spam only? Or even stick it as a sub forum in Habbo in General. Realistically the only section that warrants a spam section is the habbo section - as it is a 'no go' topic in Spam really, and most older members who post in spam do not want to see screen shots of "uber funny things" which aren't funny, but at the same time people may want to post it - without being flamed.
So I think the Habbo section could warrant a spam section, but the other forums don't really warrant it imo - especially the tech forum. God knows what we would post in there as spam lol
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 05:34 PM
How? Posts won't be counted so it's hopeless. There's no point putting it on trial because it would look incredibly untidy on the main forums (again). Just let people post relevant topics, which this one was, in the relevant forums (wow, common sense :/). I don't see why people assume uninteresting threads like this one are pointless. Uninteresting threads sink to the bottom of forums and disappear, while "pointless" (or irrelevant, as is the case) are ones that people enjoy but do not have a specific topic of discussion therefore leading to spontaneous discussions.
Just do away with formalities and tell the moderators to read a dictionary and grow some common sense, so formalities can be done away with so this fansite actually acts like a fansite and not some flailing corporate organisation which piggy backs needless systems and panders to bureaucracy until the cows come home.
Wouldn't work. Spam comes in different flavours, therefore people will want to create their own threads to give their idea some thought and discussion. People will read a spam thread at different pages and therefore post replies to something that happened ages ago. It will be a complete mess.
Well I think you are being somewhat negative here - there have been very successful and very long spam threads at Habbox and there is always the spam section amyway. :)
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 05:38 PM
Well I think you are being somewhat negative here - there have been very successful and very long spam threads at Habbox and there is always the spam section amyway. :)
Not negative at all, just posting common sense :S A spam thread won't work because spam comes in a different variety of topics, subjects and attitudes. Habbo Spam would vary in discussion and get out of hand and become completely untidy.
I'm also not sure how this has suddenly become a problem :/ Is the Habbo In General forum going to become the new Discuss Anything, where moderators fail to differentiate between pointless and boring topics? This thread could of gone in the Habbo In General as that is where you discuss "anything that relates to Habbo". It's not an interesting thread, but to label it pointless and chuck it in Spam seems unnecessary - but Habbox have always been the ones to act first think later :/
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 05:38 PM
Well I think you are being somewhat negative here - there have been very successful and very long spam threads at Habbox and there is always the spam section amyway. :)
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=167794 - prime example here.
Another ones include all the staff spam threads - especially the RV one (which I believe are now banned as well as staff chat?)
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 05:43 PM
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=167794 - prime example here.
Another ones include all the staff spam threads - especially the RV one (which I believe are now banned as well as staff chat?)
Terrible example, that's one thread that acts as a place to chat in a spam forum. If it wasn't a spam forum then it would be relevant and a good example.
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 05:49 PM
Not negative at all, just posting common sense :S A spam thread won't work because spam comes in a different variety of topics, subjects and attitudes. Habbo Spam would vary in discussion and get out of hand and become completely untidy.
I'm also not sure how this has suddenly become a problem :/ Is the Habbo In General forum going to become the new Discuss Anything, where moderators fail to differentiate between pointless and boring topics? This thread could of gone in the Habbo In General as that is where you discuss "anything that relates to Habbo". It's not an interesting thread, but to label it pointless and chuck it in Spam seems unnecessary - but Habbox have always been the ones to act first think later :/
How do you know this? As I said there is a history of long successful spam threads anyway.
It may well work as long as it is in the forum where the members have something in common.
Dom has already highlighted one. Why do you keep saying it has suddenly become a problem?
This is the feedback thread and a member has suggested a 'habbo spam'. Newer members may not feel comfortable with their threads being moved to spam and these mostly use the Habbo sections. The part in bold I do not understand. Are you talking about this thread? If a thread is pointless then the only place for it really is spam.
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=167794 - prime example here.
Another ones include all the staff spam threads - especially the RV one (which I believe are now banned as well as staff chat?)
Yes a very good example as well as the staff ones that are left. @ Gomme - no it isn't a terrible example.
It is a great example where people who are 'friends' chat. That could easily translate to Habbo, runescape, sports, tech.
Sharon
30-09-2011, 05:50 PM
i find the whole idea of a habbo spam forum just really bad. it brings us more people like a certain person who keeps getting banned on hxf because they can't type for their life, think they're super cool because they have thrones and a nice username. post in spam if you want to point pointlessly
p m s l eye kant c da point in dis
catch my drift?
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 05:50 PM
Terrible example, that's one thread that acts as a place to chat in a spam forum. If it wasn't a spam forum then it would be relevant and a good example.
A spam thread has to be in spam or it get renders pointless and gets moved to spam..
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 06:23 PM
How do you know this? As I said there is a history of long successful spam threads anyway.
In the spam forum... There has been a "history of long, successful spam threads in the spam forum". Notice you say threads. So how do you propose to moderate spam threads in Habbo In General as you suggested earlier? You can't disable posting in threads, and there is a history of spam threads so are you suggesting more than one? This is why I suggest just let people post relevant threads in the relevant forums as nature intended. Habbo threads cannot be pointless, they're relevant to Habbo and the Habbo In General forum says quite clearly underneath, that it's for threads that are relevant to Habbo. Which is why e5 is confused and the removal of his thread seems utterly pointless creating this tedious discussion.
Dom has already highlighted one. Why do you keep saying it has suddenly become a problem?
One thing and we've suddenly got a pandemic :P
This is the feedback thread and a member has suggested a 'habbo spam'. Newer members may not feel comfortable with their threads being moved to spam and these mostly use the Habbo sections.
Then keep the topics in the Habbo forums. You're forgetting that members do not like red writing and passive aggressive PMs when posting a thread int he wrong place, so if there was a Habbo Spam forum newer members might feel they have done wrong when their threads are randomly moved into a different forum. Spam suggests unwanted or pointless and void of discussion.
The part in bold I do not understand. Are you talking about this thread? If a thread is pointless then the only place for it really is spam.
The thread that was moved into Spam. It was about Habbo, therefore it goes under a Habbo forum. Habbo In General is sufficient enough. The thread wasn't pointless, it was uninteresting as many people have pointed out so far.
Yes a very good example as well as the staff ones that are left. @ Gomme - no it isn't a terrible example.
It is a great example where people who are 'friends' chat. That could easily translate to Habbo, runescape, sports, tech.
It is a terrible example. The KKK thread is where people go to chat. Your suggesting an alternative to a spam forum by making one singular thread. Your suggesting Spam is another word for chatting, when it isn't. A spam thread won't work, because spam comes in different flavours. Members may post funny things they have seen, to stupid things Habbo Staff have done - this would deem one thread completely useless by being too hard to follow. These are discussions, not a conversation like in the KKK thread.
By your reasoning, your suggesting the Spam Forum can be replaced with the KKK thread.
A spam thread has to be in spam or it get renders pointless and gets moved to spam..
So your suggesting Habbox create a Habbo Spam forum (stupid name for a forum but lets roll with it) and then put a Spam Thread inside that? It reminds me of that mememe - Yo dawg. I heard you like spam. So I put spam, inside your spam, so you can spam while browsing spam.
Inseriousity.
30-09-2011, 06:31 PM
The reason that Habbox staff spam was discontinued was because the majority were just using this and not posting in the main forum - I would suggest that is an indication it would work. They don't have to be forums they could just be stickied spam threads in the popular forums. Habbo spam maybe unfunny to some people but you have to remember that we have a lot of younger users who probably do find it funny and it's not a useless thread to them. I would not like to see the 'pointless rule' discontinued outside of spam - it would be mayhem. Gomme, we are discussing this because a member would like it. I would suggest a stickied thread in Habbo in General for spam. As far as I know you do not use the Habbo forums. :Px
I don't think that is a good reason to suggest it'd work. If you post a stickied spam thread in the forum, going by the reason of why the Habbox Staff one was removed as you put it, that'd suggest that they'd just use that forum to post their Habbo spam so you either rename it the Habbo spam forum because that is what it'd effectively become or you just do what gommeinc suggested.
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 06:37 PM
So your suggesting Habbox create a Habbo Spam forum (stupid name for a forum but lets roll with it) and then put a Spam Thread inside that? It reminds me of that mememe - Yo dawg. I heard you like spam. So I put spam, inside your spam, so you can spam while browsing spam.
No..
I have already suggested threads specifically wouldn't work - but a sub forum for habbo related spam (eg screenshots etc) would be appropriate.
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 06:41 PM
No..
I have already suggested threads specifically wouldn't work - but a sub forum for habbo related spam (eg screenshots etc) would be appropriate.
Can't they just be posted in Habbo In General? If they're involving discussion it's fine. Habbo threads are rarely and impossible to make pointless as they have a themed point - Habbo. If a thread is boring, it'll sink and disappear. It's one thing Habbox do not need a make system for, because it's done through the interests of members. Better that than put off new members with the lovely red text and passive aggressive PMs :P I really do believe people are mixing up the words boring, uninteresting and humour with pointless and unnecessary.
A good example of a forum that doesn't do this - ClubHabbo. Granted they're a bit of a mess, but at least their forum structure is as perfect as possible.
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 06:43 PM
Can't they just be posted in Habbo In General? If they're involving discussion it's fine. Habbo threads are rarely and impossible to make pointless as they have a themed point - Habbo. If a thread is boring, it'll sink and disappear. It's one thing Habbox do not need a make system for, because it's done through the interests of members. Better that than put off new members with the lovely red text and passive aggressive PMs :P I really do believe people are mixing up the words boring, uninteresting and humour with pointless and unnecessary.
A good example of a forum that doesn't do this - ClubHabbo. Granted they're a bit of a mess, but at least their forum structure is as perfect as possible.
But you end up with threads with a screenshot then posts saying 'LOL haha xD' - which is pointless posting - and in any other part of this forum you would get told off.
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Can't they just be posted in Habbo In General? If they're involving discussion it's fine. Habbo threads are rarely and impossible to make pointless as they have a themed point - Habbo. If a thread is boring, it'll sink and disappear. It's one thing Habbox do not need a make system for, because it's done through the interests of members. Better that than put off new members with the lovely red text and passive aggressive PMs :P I really do believe people are mixing up the words boring, uninteresting and humour with pointless and unnecessary.
A good example of a forum that doesn't do this - ClubHabbo. Granted they're a bit of a mess, but at least their forum structure is as perfect as possible.
So perfect HxF is the more successful forum? :P
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 06:46 PM
In the spam forum... There has been a "history of long, successful spam threads in the spam forum". Notice you say threads. So how do you propose to moderate spam threads in Habbo In General as you suggested earlier? You can't disable posting in threads, and there is a history of spam threads so are you suggesting more than one? This is why I suggest just let people post relevant threads in the relevant forums as nature intended. Habbo threads cannot be pointless, they're relevant to Habbo and the Habbo In General forum says quite clearly underneath, that it's for threads that are relevant to Habbo. Which is why e5 is confused and the removal of his thread seems utterly pointless creating this tedious discussion.
No what I said was 'there have been very successful and very long spam threads at Habbox'
I did not say in the spam section. Mostly they have been in the staff forums.
One thing and we've suddenly got a pandemic :P
They are only suggestions! :P
Then keep the topics in the Habbo forums. You're forgetting that members do not like red writing and passive aggressive PMs when posting a thread int he wrong place, so if there was a Habbo Spam forum newer members might feel they have done wrong when their threads are randomly moved into a different forum. Spam suggests unwanted or pointless and void of discussion.
The thread that was moved into Spam. It was about Habbo, therefore it goes under a Habbo forum. Habbo In General is sufficient enough. The thread wasn't pointless, it was uninteresting as many people have pointed out so far.
The thread was lacking in substance for discussion. It was a 'chat' thread. It maybe uninteresting to some but not to others. Nobody would move an uninteresting thread to spam providing it provided a platform for discussion. I find some threads uninteresting but it doesn't mean they should be moved to spam. As far as 'red writing and passively agressive pms go' - I am not sure if they are bothered. Moderation like this applies to every forum. In fact I get more pms thanking me for pointing something out than I get rude ones.
It is a terrible example. The KKK thread is where people go to chat. Your suggesting an alternative to a spam forum by making one singular thread. Your suggesting Spam is another word for chatting, when it isn't. A spam thread won't work, because spam comes in different flavours. Members may post funny things they have seen, to stupid things Habbo Staff have done - this would deem one thread completely useless by being too hard to follow. These are discussions, not a conversation like in the KKK thread.
By your reasoning, your suggesting the Spam Forum can be replaced with the KKK thread.
Not at all. What would you say spam is for if not for chatting and generally chilling out?
So your suggesting Habbox create a Habbo Spam forum (stupid name for a forum but lets roll with it) and then put a Spam Thread inside that? It reminds me of that mememe - Yo dawg. I heard you like spam. So I put spam, inside your spam, so you can spam while browsing spam.
No I was suggesting as I said above to put a stickied thread in 'Habbo in General' for spam. If they can't disable post count in a thread then obviously that's a problem.
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 06:50 PM
But you end up with threads with a screenshot then posts saying 'LOL haha xD' - which is pointless posting - and in any other part of this forum you would get told off.
If only rule A7 existed for such an occassion :P Hopefully the moderators are capable of using their own discretion and can promote discussion. Perhaps a re-write of the mod system is in order so the red text isn't as passive aggressive? Perhaps a new mod template is in order - Moderator Comment - where moderators can edit the posts of other members with advice rather than an aggressive looking warning. I think the colour some sites I am familiar with use either blue or yellow - neutral, non-threatening colours. Just a thought at least, and as Catzsy said, loads of Habbo users are young and if child psychology taught me anything, it's not to be too aggressive with them :P
No what I said was 'there have been very successful and very long spam threads at Habbox'
I did not say in the spam section. Mostly they have been in the staff forums.
So completely irrelevant to us normal folk? :P
They are only suggestions! :P
The thread was lacking in substance for discussion. It was a 'chat' thread. It maybe uninteresting to some but not to others. Nobody would move an uninteresting thread to spam providing it provided a platform for discussion. I find some threads uninteresting but it doesn't mean they should be moved to spam. As far as 'red writing and passively agressive pms go' - I am not sure if they are bothered. Moderation like this applies to every forum. In fact I get more pms thanking me for pointing something out than I get rude ones.
And it would of sank to the bottom, much like it did in the Spam forum. If it was kept in Habbo in General, it would of sank to the bottom of the forum and not be seen. If people posted, then it's promoting some amount of discussion. It's still relevant to habbo, as the forum quite clearly states :P
Not at all. What would you say spam is for if not for chatting and generally chilling out?
Well for here you get a dumping ground. But other than that, chat, mucking around, banter, mindless discussion that is going no where and tom foolery. Chat usually means "hey how are you?" threads not "Tom's* got a GF who looks more manly than him", which goes along the lines of banter and Tom Foolery.
*-example of name, not relevant to anyone as far as I am aware.
No I was suggesting as I said above to put a stickied thread in 'Habbo in General' for spam. If they can't disable post count in a thread then obviously that's a problem.
Which is why it won't work :P And if it did, there's too much to discuss and chat about "Habbo Spam" wise. One thread for funny pictures, pointless discussions etc isn't enough and a Habbo Spam forum is too much as it's untidy and comes off as suggesting anything mildly humourous is forbidden :P
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 06:51 PM
If only rule A7 existed for such an occassion :P Hopefully the moderators are capable of using their own discretion and can promote discussion. Perhaps a re-write of the mod system is in order so the red text isn't as passive aggressive? Perhaps a new mod template is in order - Moderator Comment - where moderators can edit the posts of other members with advice rather than an aggressive looking warning. I think the colour some sites I am familiar with use either blue or yellow - neutral, non-threatening colours. Just a thought at least, and as Catzsy said, loads of Habbo users are young and if child psychology taught me anything, it's not to be too aggressive with them :P
Sadly I don't think moderators get much space for any of that - do what you are told aye :P
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 06:53 PM
If only rule A7 existed for such an occassion :P Hopefully the moderators are capable of using their own discretion and can promote discussion. Perhaps a re-write of the mod system is in order so the red text isn't as passive aggressive? Perhaps a new mod template is in order - Moderator Comment - where moderators can edit the posts of other members with advice rather than an aggressive looking warning. I think the colour some sites I am familiar with use either blue or yellow - neutral, non-threatening colours. Just a thought at least, and as Catzsy said, loads of Habbo users are young and if child psychology taught me anything, it's not to be too aggressive with them :P
We don't have complaints about the edits or pms 99% of the time, Gomme. It is pink not red as it's a modwarn. I would like a blue mod warn though! :P PS.... CH are stricter than we are on pointless etc.
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 06:56 PM
We don't have complaints about the edits or pms 99% of the time, Gomme. It is pink not red as it's a modwarn. I would like a blue mod warn though! :P PS.... CH are stricter than we are on pointless etc.
Not sure that last bit is true, the content often seen on that forum is appalling - stuff that on here would be stopped. I think the problem with CHF is they are really inconsistent - so the problem isn't that they are stricter/more lenient than HxF, it is more of a case that they give one punishment for one user and another to a different user.
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 06:59 PM
Not sure that last bit is true, the content often seen on that forum is appalling - stuff that on here would be stopped. I think the problem with CHF is they are really inconsistent - so the problem isn't that they are stricter/more lenient than HxF, it is more of a case that they give one punishment for one user and another to a different user.
What I meant was that as far as I know they still issue warnings and infractions for minor stuff like pointless, spam, double posting etc where we don't.
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 07:00 PM
We don't have complaints about the edits or pms 99% of the time, Gomme. It is pink not red as it's a modwarn. I would like a blue mod warn though! :P PS.... CH are stricter than we are on pointless etc.
Since when? I usually see them acting their age and enjoying themselves :S
Pink, red... Same thing, the red spectrum (including pink and its variants) are aggressive colours which is why you see them for warnings :P It might be worth adding another one e.g. [modcomment] where moderators can comment on a members actions for things that do not break the rules, but require special attention. They use them in student forums and a few other forums I have used in the past, or use at the moment. They're quite good, and look good too :P
Catzsy
30-09-2011, 07:05 PM
Since when? I usually see them acting their age and enjoying themselves :S
Pink, red... Same thing, the red spectrum (including pink and its variants) are aggressive colours which is why you see them for warnings :P It might be worth adding another one e.g. [modcomment] where moderators can comment on a members actions for things that do not break the rules, but require special attention. They use them in student forums and a few other forums I have used in the past, or use at the moment. They're quite good, and look good too :P
Sounds like a good idea. Have you got an example? Can you think of circumstances it could be used? Maybe we should have traffic light modwarns! LOL :P
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 07:13 PM
Sounds like a good idea. Have you got an example? Can you think of circumstances it could be used? Maybe we should have traffic light modwarns! LOL :P
I was wondering if you've witnessed times where a warning may seem too harsh or unnecessary. Perhaps for first time offenders? A traffic light system would be nice, but best keep it to yellow and red - green would look a bit odd and would clash horribly with most of the forum skins :P
What's the law on posting pictures to sum up your thoughts? I've noticed a few times in the past members would be warned for posting pictures with infamous phrases but including no text themselves - would that be a time to use the system? It depends what Habbox has in place for small offenses and huge offenses, like posting gruesome porn or vulgar images could involve just the red warning while YouTube videos which contain swearing, but not obvious enough or offensive enough, could use the amber/yellow warning. I know little about the warning system for Habbox, like what rules require immediate action and what ones are considered mild. Mild ones could possible result in just a quick reminder through PM or no PM at all. The idea is limitless in thought :P
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 07:16 PM
Just want to get this out here; MOD's should be told not to abuse the warning system. I don't want all my posts having really picky comments :P
The idea is good though - "modcomment" would be good - and also show other users that whatever happened is not allowed - without it turning in to a punishment.
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 07:19 PM
Just want to get this out here; MOD's should be told not to abuse the warning system. I don't want all my posts having really picky comments :P
The idea is good though - "modcomment" would be good - and also show other users that whatever happened is not allowed - without it turning in to a punishment.
It'll make the moderators a bit more personal. I hate seeing moderators come off robotic and generic, and with a modcomment they'll have to be creative when posting comments as it would be done case-by-case and in an informative way.
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 07:20 PM
It'll make the moderators a bit more personal. I hate seeing moderators come off robotic and generic, and with a modcomment they'll have to be creative when posting comments as it would be done case-by-case and in an informative way.
Are the PM's sent by MOD's totally generic?
Always winds me up when people who know perfectly well what my name is send me a PM moaning and say "Hey Marketing" - yet if it isn't some sort of moan it is "Hey Dom" lol
Inseriousity.
30-09-2011, 07:26 PM
A mod warning traffic lights system would be based on moderator's discretion and I can already imagine the 'why was my warning red, it should be amber' arguments that would occur.
AgnesIO
30-09-2011, 07:29 PM
A mod warning traffic lights system would be based on moderator's discretion and I can already imagine the 'why was my warning red, it should be amber' arguments that would occur.
In which case the MOD should reply "Because you are a brain dead ****. Now shut up moaning."
Now that would cause some anger.
GommeInc
30-09-2011, 07:54 PM
A mod warning traffic lights system would be based on moderator's discretion and I can already imagine the 'why was my warning red, it should be amber' arguments that would occur.
Hopefully moderators are taught the difference between explicit breaking of the rules and comment :P A comment could be editing a members post who is beginning to bully someone (or cause an out of hand argument) which may calm down the members, to explicit breaking of the rules which usually contains more than one rule being broken e.g. bullying/insulting mixed with a dash of avoiding the filter/O.T.T. swearing. Plus if they do argue a mod could send a friendly PM to advise. I only know of arguments being caused when a moderator sends a generic message which is so robotic and impersonal, when a personal one should be used. Just advise mods that explicit breaking of the rules contains more than one rule being broken. Think of it as knocking over cones with a car - one cone knocked over isn't as bad as 2.
Catzsy
01-10-2011, 01:48 PM
Hopefully moderators are taught the difference between explicit breaking of the rules and comment :P A comment could be editing a members post who is beginning to bully someone (or cause an out of hand argument) which may calm down the members, to explicit breaking of the rules which usually contains more than one rule being broken e.g. bullying/insulting mixed with a dash of avoiding the filter/O.T.T. swearing. Plus if they do argue a mod could send a friendly PM to advise. I only know of arguments being caused when a moderator sends a generic message which is so robotic and impersonal, when a personal one should be used. Just advise mods that explicit breaking of the rules contains more than one rule being broken. Think of it as knocking over cones with a car - one cone knocked over isn't as bad as 2.
I like the idea of a mod comment particularly in a 'cool down' situation when an argument starts but not for bullying which is inexcusable. I do not think moderators do send generic messages which are robotic or impersonal. They are encouraged not to do so but if they do maybe forwarding to the FM would be in order. Also I do not think we use a sledgehammer to crack a nut. If more than one rule is broken e.g. avoid filter/ rudeness then the more hard core rule break should be dealt with in my experience. The system whilst not perfect does distinquish between minor rule breaks and more major rule breaks.
The Don
01-10-2011, 03:46 PM
It's like trying to fix something that isn't broken. There is a spam section which is open to all, even though there is a negative attitude towards people posting Habbo related content in there, that's the correct place to post it. We don't need extra forums for habbo, runescape or whatever; posting around this forum is at an all time low, so it seems crazy to add unnecessary spam forums when we should be removing some of the inactive sections.
Catzsy
01-10-2011, 04:27 PM
It's like trying to fix something that isn't broken. There is a spam section which is open to all, even though there is a negative attitude towards people posting Habbo related content in there, that's the correct place to post it. We don't need extra forums for habbo, runescape or whatever; posting around this forum is at an all time low, so it seems crazy to add unnecessary spam forums when we should be removing some of the inactive sections.
Well it is a shame that there is such a negative attitude to these type of threads being posted. If there wasn't I am sure members would not ask for a separate forum. It seems to me that if you are not interested in a thread then leave it alone. Maybe add prefixes? We don't know they would be unnecessary though. It is just an opinion.
Sharon
01-10-2011, 04:30 PM
Well it is a shame that there is such a negative attitude to these type of threads being posted. If there wasn't I am sure members would not ask for a separate forum. It seems to me that if you are not interested in a thread then leave it alone. Maybe add prefixes? We don't know they would be unnecessary though. It is just an opinion.
I don't think making a prefix saying [HABBO] in Spam would stop negative comments, if anything it would encourage them. Well I'm not going to defend the comments in Spam but it's a part of life really. At a typical high school you get the bullies and the popular people and the more quieter people, it's something that can't just go away because we don't like it. It anything people should learn to ignore comments or just get on with life. It happens everywhere, on the internet, at school and at workplaces.
The Don
01-10-2011, 04:40 PM
Well it is a shame that there is such a negative attitude to these type of threads being posted. If there wasn't I am sure members would not ask for a separate forum. It seems to me that if you are not interested in a thread then leave it alone. Maybe add prefixes? We don't know they would be unnecessary though. It is just an opinion.
It would be unnecessary due to the lack of posting around the forum of recent times. I'm not defending the comments in spam though, Isn't it the job of the moderators to stop this sort of behavior? Adding prefixes wouldn't solve the problem at all, if anything it'd discourage the older members from posting in spam anymore thus losing more users as the spam section would be largely dominated by Habbo threads. The ironic thing is, there is a Habbo section where all that content can be posted, and it would receive a better response, maybe general management should change the rules slightly to allow threads like the example in this thread to be posted in the section it's based around.
Catzsy
01-10-2011, 04:50 PM
I don't think making a prefix saying [HABBO] in Spam would stop negative comments, if anything it would encourage them. Well I'm not going to defend the comments in Spam but it's a part of life really. At a typical high school you get the bullies and the popular people and the more quieter people, it's something that can't just go away because we don't like it. It anything people should learn to ignore comments or just get on with life. It happens everywhere, on the internet, at school and at workplaces.
But why bother? Surely it is so immature?
FlyingJesus
01-10-2011, 05:11 PM
Something being immature or pointless doesn't mean it'll stop. It's pointless asking for the return of VIP or the unbanning of all accounts but people still make those threads time after time. The thing is that everything has consequences, and they're not always going to be fair or good - if you post something in spam that isn't interesting you won't make friends from it, just like going up to a stranger in the street and telling them you love unicycles won't garner a positive response most of the time. If people want to post Habbo things in the spam section then go ahead and do it, but you can't expect everyone to like you for it.
A separate "Habbo spam" section won't be anything of a safehouse for such conversations as it's still spam and therefore still open to anyone posting anything, unless you enforce a rule whereby you have to talk about Habbo in it in which case it's going to be stuff covered by one of the forums in the Habbo section anyway.
Also KKK is not a spam thread, it's a VIP conversation area that was moved to spam to save space of one subforum which was extremely active yet seen by management as unnecessary.
Also, many members are just going to take the piss of threads on Habbo spam, like has happened before when people posted habbo spam threads, thinking they were funny, but in fact would not make the dumbest of human beings laugh.
This is like that time where people got pumped on a fresh idea of reading forums etc. but they just died in about 2/3 months. This is going to be the same, all the supporters are just going for it because they like the novelty, but bet you it won't last that much after a while. Or I really can't see the diversity of threads you can post in relation to Habbo spam, but chat logs of conversations.
Catzsy
02-10-2011, 09:30 AM
Something being immature or pointless doesn't mean it'll stop. It's pointless asking for the return of VIP or the unbanning of all accounts but people still make those threads time after time. The thing is that everything has consequences, and they're not always going to be fair or good - if you post something in spam that isn't interesting you won't make friends from it, just like going up to a stranger in the street and telling them you love unicycles won't garner a positive response most of the time. If people want to post Habbo things in the spam section then go ahead and do it, but you can't expect everyone to like you for it.
A separate "Habbo spam" section won't be anything of a safehouse for such conversations as it's still spam and therefore still open to anyone posting anything, unless you enforce a rule whereby you have to talk about Habbo in it in which case it's going to be stuff covered by one of the forums in the Habbo section anyway.
Also KKK is not a spam thread, it's a VIP conversation area that was moved to spam to save space of one subforum which was extremely active yet seen by management as unnecessary.
I don't think they do expect people to like them but why do some feel it necessary to make sure they feel unwelcome? It is not an exclusive club. @ the Don - negative comments as such don't break the rules so unless any do break the rules there is nothing we can do.
Also, many members are just going to take the piss of threads on Habbo spam, like has happened before when people posted habbo spam threads, thinking they were funny, but in fact would not make the dumbest of human beings laugh
Do you know I feel that type of comment is quite arrogant. It takes all sorts and what one might not find funny, maybe another would. Spam is not a 'superior' forum it should be for all.
I don't think they do expect people to like them but why do some feel it necessary to make sure they feel unwelcome? It is not an exclusive club. @ the Don - negative comments as such don't break the rules so unless any do break the rules there is nothing we can do.
Do you know I feel that type of comment is quite arrogant. It takes all sorts and what one might not find funny, maybe another would. Spam is not a 'superior' forum it should be for all.
As soon as I read this these were my thoughts as well. Its ridiculous people think they can't post habbo related things, because all they get is a bunch of negative posts from those who use spam. I'd go as far to say some members feel discouraged from posting in spam altogether because it is just treated like an exclusive club. I think it also pushes new members away because I know from my point of view, before I joined habbox spam is the only place I would of posted. If I didn't play habbo I really wouldn't of stuck around here. Anyway I was talking to Shaz about this and she doesn't feel its like this anymore but it used to be so I dread to think what it was like before.
Catzsy
02-10-2011, 10:11 AM
As soon as I read this these were my thoughts as well. Its ridiculous people think they can't post habbo related things, because all they get is a bunch of negative posts from those who use spam. I'd go as far to say some members feel discouraged from posting in spam altogether because it is just treated like an exclusive club. I think it also pushes new members away because I know from my point of view, before I joined habbox spam is the only place I would of posted. If I didn't play habbo I really wouldn't of stuck around here. Anyway I was talking to Shaz about this and she doesn't feel its like this anymore but it used to be so I dread to think what it was like before.
I totally agree and It is nice to see somebody sticking up for the right for all to post without fear of being
put down. It doesn'ty happen generally in other parts of the forum. If one doesn't find a thread funny/interesting why even bother to post in it?
GommeInc
02-10-2011, 11:59 AM
I don't think they do expect people to like them but why do some feel it necessary to make sure they feel unwelcome? It is not an exclusive club. @ the Don - negative comments as such don't break the rules so unless any do break the rules there is nothing we can do.
Do you know I feel that type of comment is quite arrogant. It takes all sorts and what one might not find funny, maybe another would. Spam is not a 'superior' forum it should be for all.
I think it's because there is a perfectly suited Habbo category people can post in for anything related to Habbo. You can't blame the Spam members getting annoyed, and surely it's natural for people to disagree? So if members do take the proverbial piss out of a member for posting Habbo spam in the Spam forum, then that's just natural because the majority of the time it won't be funny or interesting :P You get the same response to uninteresting threads by members (Robbie! I think?) where the hordes of the Spam army will mock or post the blatantly obvious that it's not funny or interesting, or a wee bit arrogant :P
The Spam forum is a weird place, despite the name people like it when random, pointless threads are interesting and useful to the reader.
I think it's because there is a perfectly suited Habbo category people can post in for anything related to Habbo. You can't blame the Spam members getting annoyed, and surely it's natural for people to disagree? So if members do take the proverbial piss out of a member for posting Habbo spam in the Spam forum, then that's just natural because the majority of the time it won't be funny or interesting :P You get the same response to uninteresting threads by members (Robbie! I think?) where the hordes of the Spam army will mock or post the blatantly obvious that it's not funny or interesting, or a wee bit arrogant :P
The Spam forum is a weird place, despite the name people like it when random, pointless threads are interesting and useful to the reader.
Since when did spam have to be interesting or funny??????
Accipiter
02-10-2011, 12:26 PM
The people in spam are so defensive of their forum authority it's laughable at the extent they go to to keep their position in their little forum lives.
In 2008 or w.e when I joined I could post in spam freely, I came back recently after the closure of THF and it was laughable at how hypocritical some of the posts where, and one person in particular seems to take it in his stride to try and tower over me.
If you're so frightened of your forum position and feel you have to defensively attack someone then I think its about time you left the forum because it's embarrassing!
FlyingJesus
02-10-2011, 02:01 PM
Spam is for everyone and sure you can post what you like in there, but the point is that you cannot and should not expect all replies to be positive, especially if it's a slow day. If people can't handle criticism of the more stupid portions of their personality then they shouldn't expose it
Catzsy
02-10-2011, 02:23 PM
I think it's because there is a perfectly suited Habbo category people can post in for anything related to Habbo. You can't blame the Spam members getting annoyed, and surely it's natural for people to disagree? So if members do take the proverbial piss out of a member for posting Habbo spam in the Spam forum, then that's just natural because the majority of the time it won't be funny or interesting :P You get the same response to uninteresting threads by members (Robbie! I think?) where the hordes of the Spam army will mock or post the blatantly obvious that it's not funny or interesting, or a wee bit arrogant :P
The Spam forum is a weird place, despite the name people like it when random, pointless threads are interesting and useful to the reader.
But you seem to be contradicting yourself here as I suggested a Habbo Spam thread. :S
@ FJ - this is all very well but do you agree that members should be put off posting there because of what could be seen as a 'hostile' reaction to them posting there?
Accipiter
02-10-2011, 02:31 PM
Spam Members?
Literal spam members?
That's basically a hostile sentence by itself, I think you should regard everyone on the forum as a Forum Member, because "Spam Member" instantly makes it look like another group void from the rest of the forum which you have to gain acceptance from.
FlyingJesus
02-10-2011, 02:40 PM
@ FJ - this is all very well but do you agree that members should be put off posting there because of what could be seen as a 'hostile' reaction to them posting there?
No I think that if people are genuinely interested in posting a picture of a can of SPAM meat and think it's hilarious then they should feel happy to do so, but as I keep saying they should prepare themselves for a less than friendly backlash just like you'd get if you went into the middle of town and put Rebecca Black on a loud speaker system on repeat. If you're not comfortable enough with yourself to endure it why should anyone else have to endure your (obviously not you personally, I mean in general) nonsense?
Lights
02-10-2011, 02:42 PM
I totally agree with the fact that people who 'think' they own spam seem to think it's exclusive. I think I created one thread in spam when I first joined, and the first reply was quite hostile, for no apparent reason other then I assume, that I posted in the spam section.
Spam section should , by right, be able to post anything, if somebody doesn't like that thread, they should just not post. I know it's hard for those egotistical members who feel they should make their presence known, but I'm sure they could resist.
If spam gets split up into different categories, it's just letting those members think they do own spam.
FlyingJesus
02-10-2011, 02:50 PM
Yes let's all hold hands and eat happiness biscuits with a glittery pitcher of love
Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!
Lights
02-10-2011, 02:52 PM
See what I mean about hostility! Sheesh
and oh by the way, if you didn't quite get it, you come across as slow, the egotistical people I mentioned, was mainly you.
GommeInc
02-10-2011, 02:56 PM
But you seem to be contradicting yourself here as I suggested a Habbo Spam thread. :S
@ FJ - this is all very well but do you agree that members should be put off posting there because of what could be seen as a 'hostile' reaction to them posting there?
How am I contradicting myself? A Habbo Spam thread won't work. Period :P Forums and threads work completely differently, and one thread cannot hold all that Habbo Spam. There's no point having a Habbo Spam forum because it's untidy to keep adding a forum to solve issues when people should be able to post anything in the Habbo sections. If they're being pointless, advise and react. Though arguably this whole argument seems to be based on a non-problem - e5s thread wasn't pointless, it was just boring and would of sank to the bottom of the forum, much like it did in the Spam forum :P
Also, hasn't Spam generally got a social stigma associated with it? It's unwanted material posted on forums by defintion. Such negative behaviour you get in the Spam forums comes naturally, seeing as Spam forums are where you place unwanted threads, posts and people :P
FlyingJesus
02-10-2011, 03:16 PM
See what I mean about hostility! Sheesh
and oh by the way, if you didn't quite get it, you come across as slow, the egotistical people I mentioned, was mainly you.
I did get that, but your post above didn't describe me at all. I am egotistical yes but I've quite clearly been saying in this thread that spam is for anyone to post in and I don't think I own it at all. Not sure where you get the idea that I'm slow from, you obviously haven't read any of my posts and are just lashing out because I didn't kiss you on both cheeks when you turned up making stupid comments.
Your assumption that you got hostile replies for being in a certain area is also incorrect, you're showing quite wonderfully in your last few posts here in feedback that you're just plainly annoying. If you have any genuine and useful comments to make please go ahead but false assumptions, pointless attacks and (somewhat ironically) spamming is not what's needed in this thread.
Lights
02-10-2011, 03:26 PM
I did get that, but your post above didn't describe me at all. I am egotistical yes but I've quite clearly been saying in this thread that spam is for anyone to post in and I don't think I own it at all. Not sure where you get the idea that I'm slow from, you obviously haven't read any of my posts and are just lashing out because I didn't kiss you on both cheeks when you turned up making stupid comments.
Your assumption that you got hostile replies for being in a certain area is also incorrect, you're showing quite wonderfully in your last few posts here in feedback that you're just plainly annoying. If you have any genuine and useful comments to make please go ahead but false assumptions, pointless attacks and (somewhat ironically) spamming is not what's needed in this thread.
Now now! Just because somebody doesn't like fishing doesn't mean they'll stop eating fish. Same goes here, you may say that spam is for everyone, but the way you act in spam says otherwise. Sure, slow maybe the wrong word to describe you, maybe arrogant is a better one.
Lashing out? Don't get me wrong, I'm sure most people would love a kiss on both cheeks by a charming young fellow like yourself, but it's just not my thing.
My assumptions that I got hostile replies were actually correct. In the thread I stated I said something harmless such as the spam forum is quite dead, and you yourself replied with something I can't remember, but it was still hostile, for no apparent reason. So, that says theres only two reasons why I got that response. 1) You didn't like me or 2) You didn't like the thread because it was in spam. As I was new, I would assume that both reasons are related.
You shouldn't state opinions as facts! They can cloud peoples judgements ;) You may indeed think I am annoying, but that doesn't mean I am. Genuine and useful comments? Dear, this is a habbo forum, not every post needs to be genuine and useful.
And whats a forum without a little spam here and there.
FlyingJesus
02-10-2011, 03:36 PM
In feedback posts do need to be genuine and useful without spamming...
Slow and arrogant are completely different things, I'll gladly admit to arrogance so I'm glad we've cleared that one up, but as far as I'm aware you don't live in my head and so cannot informedly state my reasons for acting as I do/did. Your thread was essentially a criticism and I congratulated you on your astounding observational skills, for which you got on the defensive and made comments pertaining to my intelligence. The hostility was started by you, but even so it was clear from the first post that I wasn't going to be your best friend.
As for stating an opinion as fact, I was actually just talking again about my own reasoning for hostile replies, I'm sure if I beg hard enough you'll forgive me for being narcissistic. Or was that slow? The two are so very obviously alike that I get mixed up.
Sharon
02-10-2011, 03:42 PM
I think it's because there is a perfectly suited Habbo category people can post in for anything related to Habbo. You can't blame the Spam members getting annoyed, and surely it's natural for people to disagree? So if members do take the proverbial piss out of a member for posting Habbo spam in the Spam forum, then that's just natural because the majority of the time it won't be funny or interesting :P You get the same response to uninteresting threads by members (Robbie! I think?) where the hordes of the Spam army will mock or post the blatantly obvious that it's not funny or interesting, or a wee bit arrogant :P
The Spam forum is a weird place, despite the name people like it when random, pointless threads are interesting and useful to the reader.
Sums my opinion up nicely, if you start posting "lyk dis actin ded ard" fair enough but obviously you're asking for hate and I don't think it's fair to pick on people are are being rude to the OP.
Let's face it this thread is turning into an argument against the "spam members" who think they "own the spam forum" not much is going to be fixed because a few haters say so.
Lights
02-10-2011, 03:46 PM
In feedback posts do need to be genuine and useful without spamming...
Slow and arrogant are completely different things, I'll gladly admit to arrogance so I'm glad we've cleared that one up, but as far as I'm aware you don't live in my head and so cannot informedly state my reasons for acting as I do/did. Your thread was essentially a criticism and I congratulated you on your astounding observational skills, for which you got on the defensive and made comments pertaining to my intelligence. The hostility was started by you, but even so it was clear from the first post that I wasn't going to be your best friend.
As for stating an opinion as fact, I was actually just talking again about my own reasoning for hostile replies, I'm sure if I beg hard enough you'll forgive me for being narcissistic. Or was that slow? The two are so very obviously alike that I get mixed up.
I could of hardly called you arrogant when I was trying to insult your intelligence could I? That wouldn't of worked at all! Thats what I was aiming at anyway, surely you realised that!
I thank you for the compliment of my observational skills! It is one of my many qualities however my thead wasn't criticism, it was stating a fact, because the spam forum was indeed dead. I don't, how shall I put it, turn to hostility with no reason. I am the nicest person you know therefore I must of been provoked! I however, don't like insulting peoples looks, therefore I go for the next best thing, the mind. I always love insulting fools who believe they own forums. For some reason, intelligence seems to be a touchy topic for those people, therefore thats why I always go for that when I turn to insulting!
Damn, I wanted to be your best friend, you remind me ever so much of Jake, and I'm sure he could tell you, we was totally best buds.
Now now, I am no king, you don't need to beg, a simple apology would settle matters!
Accipiter
02-10-2011, 03:53 PM
In feedback posts do need to be genuine and useful without spamming...
Slow and arrogant are completely different things, I'll gladly admit to arrogance so I'm glad we've cleared that one up, but as far as I'm aware you don't live in my head and so cannot informedly state my reasons for acting as I do/did. Your thread was essentially a criticism and I congratulated you on your astounding observational skills, for which you got on the defensive and made comments pertaining to my intelligence. The hostility was started by you, but even so it was clear from the first post that I wasn't going to be your best friend.
As for stating an opinion as fact, I was actually just talking again about my own reasoning for hostile replies, I'm sure if I beg hard enough you'll forgive me for being narcissistic. Or was that slow? The two are so very obviously alike that I get mixed up.
How can a post be genuine, please expand.
I think you mean the meaning behind / perception of the person, and from current understanding of all your posts you tend to find everyone who isn't licking crack fake.
Some of this forum needs to take a step back, it make fast assumptions on people that set harder than concrete, example the thread about Jake being unbanned, I made a comment about him not coming back then you and multiple others people created a judgement on me just because I wasn't surfing the wave of hate, which once again I don't understand, because when I was on this forum in 2008 all of it licked his ass crack like there was a willy wonka happiness lollipop up there.
And you share similar characteristics to Jakes reactions and way of typing, which is funny because if you hate the guy it must be due to his actions, if not you must not like yourself much.
I've been on this forum for years, and found I could free and openly post back then, in spam, even random crap, but now I get -repped for being "Not funny lol" which is a fine opinion but stop being so defensive, enough to think humour follows only your opinion, yes you can have an opinion, but not laughing doesn't mean you get to shoot the court jester.
Members of this forum judge people and set it like stone with no conclusive evidence structured in a hostile manner, if you find I must act like you, or other users to become genuine then you're wrong, because I don't fancy following the sheep in how I act and talk, I'll express my opinion whether you like it or not, but you seem to have some sort of god system that some peoples judgement defines whether I go to heaven or hell, which again sorry, is wrong.
So it needs to stop trying to inflict other peoples behaviours because they think theirss are the pinnacle of right.
FlyingJesus
02-10-2011, 03:54 PM
But you didn't say spam was dead... surely you should know what you're trying to argue about before you post?
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=720427
You are wrong, that is all.
Lights
02-10-2011, 03:55 PM
So I said there was no threads...
Surely that's the same thing? Either way, it wasn't a criticism.
FlyingJesus
02-10-2011, 04:03 PM
How can a post be genuine, please expand.
That was in relation to certain false assumptions being bandied about.
I think you mean the meaning behind or the perception of the person, and from current understanding of all your posts you tend to find everyone who isn't licking crack fake.
Which posts have you been reading? There's only one bumlicker I like, most of my friends here and offline are people who don't hesitate to take the piss at all.
And you share similar characteristics to Jakes reactions and way of typing, which is funny because if you hate the guy it must be due to his actions, if not you must not like yourself much.
Being eloquent doesn't make one the same as all other eloquent persons, and as far as I recall he always preferred all-out attacks on people he didn't like whereas I'm merely correcting mistakes.
I've been on this forum for years, and found I could free and openly post back then, in spam, even random crap, but now I get -repped for being "Not funny lol" which is a fine opinion but stop being so defensive, enough to think humour follows only your opinion, yes you can have an opinion, but not laughing doesn't mean you get to shoot the court jester.
I imagine you were probably just ignored in that case, as I can't recall a time in HxF history when everyone in spam was friendly and I've been around for quite a while. As for not stating our opinions, are you suggesting that only certain people and certain posts ought to be made in certain threads? That sounds somewhat hypocritical when you're saying you don't want to be a sheep.
Members of this forum judge people and set it like stone with no conclusive evidence structured in a hostile manner, if you find I must act like you, or other users to become genuine then you're wrong, because I don't fancy following the sheep in how I act and talk, I'll express my opinion whether you like it or not, but you seem to have some sort of god system that some peoples judgement defines whether I go to heaven or hell, which again sorry, is wrong.
So it needs to stop trying to inflict other peoples behaviours because they think theirss are the pinnacle of right.
Again, you are being a hypocrite. If you can say "I'll express my opinion whether you like it or not" (which I agree with, as I've said over and over in this thread) then why can other people not respond in a way that is fitting for them? Do we all have to act and post like you?
@Lights: Regardless of whether the thread was meant critically or not, you made the first hostile comment and therefore cannot blame the attitude of previous members who might not take kindly to such comments.
Accipiter
02-10-2011, 04:12 PM
You misunderstood,
I say state your opinion, but do not inflict upon the thread that your opinion means all, or that they should behave the way you do. Which I tend to find to be a reoccurring manner in this forum.
I'll not go into details, but on this forum it's like you have to behave as one or as none!
And for the time back in spam, It had it's community, but it wasn't hostile as it is today as I often started to engage myself into conversations without being shunned or ignored because of perception.
In case you misunderstand again, I'm not saying others opinions are worthless, I say pipe down with attitude in the way its expressed.
AgnesIO
02-10-2011, 04:14 PM
You misunderstood,
I say state your opinion, but do not inflict upon the thread that your opinion means all, or that they should behave the way you do. Which I tend to find to be a reoccurring manner in this forum.
I'll not go into details, but on this forum it's like you have to behave as one or as none!
And for the time back in spam, It had it's community, but it wasn't hostile as it is today as I often started to engage myself into conversations without being shunned or ignored because of perception.
Anyone who thinks spam is worse at shunning people nowadays is mad lol
It has improved hugely over the years.
FlyingJesus
02-10-2011, 04:15 PM
But my opinion is that my opinion means all
Lights
02-10-2011, 04:16 PM
I don't show hostility without reason ;)
As mentioned before, I am the nicest person you know therefore why would I judge before I even spoke to them.
Accipiter
02-10-2011, 04:16 PM
Well it must have just switched sides because I felt I could post in it before, before it was just trolls and jokes which you could fit into and laugh over, now it's like being sat in class being told to be quiet because the teacher is god.
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But my opinion is that my opinion means all
But my opinion is that opinions are opinions
onions
AgnesIO
02-10-2011, 04:18 PM
Well it must have just switched sides because I felt I could post in it before, before it was just trolls and jokes which you could fit into and laugh over, now it's like being sat in class being told to be quiet because the teacher is god.
Not making any judgements, since I barely know you..
..but perhaps people don't like your attitude?
Accipiter
02-10-2011, 04:21 PM
I agree, I don't think they did like my attitude, but my attitude was a reaction to an action like I said, I got judged as some sort of Jake fan club for one comment and that perception created there has seemed to flow on ever since
A lot of users are barely given the time or space to show their true colours before being shot down like an ill horse
AgnesIO
02-10-2011, 04:23 PM
I agree, I don't think they did like my attitude, but my attitude was a reaction to an action like I said, I got judged as some sort of Jake fan club for one comment and that perception created there has seemed to flow on ever since
A lot of users are barely given the time or space to show their true colours before being shot down like an ill horse
I do see what you mean, although I guess you COULD argue that first impressions mean everything.
Lights
02-10-2011, 04:23 PM
Dont worry Liam, I love your attitude ;)
Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!
Accipiter
02-10-2011, 04:26 PM
First impressions are for relationships! Haha, but yes I agree but I was misunderstood entirely in that thread!
Thanks Dan, I still think you're a basement dweller
AgnesIO
02-10-2011, 04:27 PM
First impressions are for relationships! Haha, but yes I agree but I was misunderstood entirely in that thread!
Thanks Dan, I still think you're a basement dweller
You can guarantee my posts in this thread are completely unbiased - I don't even know what this thread people are talking about is haha
Lights
02-10-2011, 04:29 PM
First impressions are for relationships! Haha, but yes I agree but I was misunderstood entirely in that thread!
Thanks Dan, I still think you're a basement dweller
I take it back, you're a insufferable pig :l
Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!
Only got back from shopping so can't be bothered to read all these replies but read a couple.
@flyingjesus. Your post about posting a pic about a can of spam meat is rubbish because if anything I find posts like that equally tedious and the only people I have seen that posts stupid pics like that are people who use the spam forum? Take for exmaple lights 'hi kirst' thread. It was adressed to me and was just general convo. It would of been easy for you to ignore it... not post negative things like this thread is boring etc. I don't go into your threads and go this is so boring. Also you say you believe that spam is for anyone to post in and you don't think you own it at all. Well then you need to think more carefully about your posts because they seem to suggest otherwise.
Also can I just say that I've seen a few of you moan that the spam forum is dead. Well word of advice, as members get older and leave its gonna continue to go in that direction. Only way is to pick up activity is to welcome new members and with the attitude that most of you have you are never going to get any people wanting to post there.
Accipiter
02-10-2011, 04:31 PM
You can guarantee my posts in this thread are completely unbiased - I don't even know what this thread people are talking about is haha
Ageeees ago when people asked about Jake being unbanned or something, all I said was he'd go and get himself banned again and that made me his bezzie apparently LMAO
I take it back, you're a insufferable pig :l
Sorry, see you're doing fine with big words now
Lights
02-10-2011, 04:35 PM
I had to google it to make sure it was the actual right word :l
Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not make pointless posts!
Catzsy
03-10-2011, 09:25 AM
How am I contradicting myself? A Habbo Spam thread won't work. Period :P Forums and threads work completely differently, and one thread cannot hold all that Habbo Spam. There's no point having a Habbo Spam forum because it's untidy to keep adding a forum to solve issues when people should be able to post anything in the Habbo sections. If they're being pointless, advise and react. Though arguably this whole argument seems to be based on a non-problem - e5s thread wasn't pointless, it was just boring and would of sank to the bottom of the forum, much like it did in the Spam forum :P
Also, hasn't Spam generally got a social stigma associated with it? It's unwanted material posted on forums by defintion. Such negative behaviour you get in the Spam forums comes naturally, seeing as Spam forums are where you place unwanted threads, posts and people :P
I thought so because of this:
I think it's because there is a perfectly suited Habbo category people can post in for anything related to Habbo.
I agree a lot with your opinions except the difficulty is that the thread that Elliott did is not considered a thread with any substance - just a funny Habbo screenshot. Should the forum management allow this is in the main Habbo in General forum? It would have connotations say to Runescape who would want to do the same etc. I would not have a problem with this but it could lead to all sorts of consequences but in any event it would have to be a management decision.
Also should these threads be automatically moved to Spam? Maybe the member would rather have them closed
than moved.
Stephen
03-10-2011, 02:05 PM
i suggest that we have a Crap forum, move all the crap there instead
oh and give people an award (picture of a turd) if their threads gets moved there
I'd be so happy for my thread to be moved back to the habbo in general section ;) end of |-)
Catzsy
03-10-2011, 03:18 PM
I'd be so happy for my thread to be moved back to the habbo in general section ;) end of |-)
Probably worth a pm to xxMATTGxx then as Scott is not here this week. :)
Small joke :D
I'm not that bothered anymore, it was just the initial feeling that it didn't belong in spam!
Probably worth a pm to xxMATTGxx then as Scott is not here this week. :)
GommeInc
03-10-2011, 04:22 PM
I agree a lot with your opinions except the difficulty is that the thread that Elliott did is not considered a thread with any substance - just a funny Habbo screenshot. Should the forum management allow this is in the main Habbo in General forum? It would have connotations say to Runescape who would want to do the same etc. I would not have a problem with this but it could lead to all sorts of consequences but in any event it would have to be a management decision.
Also should these threads be automatically moved to Spam? Maybe the member would rather have them closed
than moved.
Is humour necessarily a bad thing? :P The thread seemed to of died in the Spam forum, so if people did reply to it in Habbo In General then it must have a point behind it for it cause a discussion. If it's got Habbo as the general theme keep then in the Habbo categories. It seems threads like this just rot away in those forums so it would make no difference in activity - it keeps the Habbo stuff with the other Habbo stuff :P
AgnesIO
03-10-2011, 04:36 PM
Is humour necessarily a bad thing? :P The thread seemed to of died in the Spam forum, so if people did reply to it in Habbo In General then it must have a point behind it for it cause a discussion. If it's got Habbo as the general theme keep then in the Habbo categories. It seems threads like this just rot away in those forums so it would make no difference in activity - it keeps the Habbo stuff with the other Habbo stuff :P
Interesting how people are happy to reply "LOL haha" when they get one extra post, but 'cba' when they don't.
haven't read the whole thread because there seems to be a lot of repetitive points, but, i think maybe a habbo spam thread rather than a habbo spam forum could work? kinda like the spam threads we have in staff forums? people could post random screenshots, room advertisements etc. and if it doesn't work, the thread can just die out and it wouldn't be of a major concern to anyone really.
Catzsy
03-10-2011, 05:13 PM
Is humour necessarily a bad thing? :P The thread seemed to of died in the Spam forum, so if people did reply to it in Habbo In General then it must have a point behind it for it cause a discussion. If it's got Habbo as the general theme keep then in the Habbo categories. It seems threads like this just rot away in those forums so it would make no difference in activity - it keeps the Habbo stuff with the other Habbo stuff :P
No of course not but that type of thread is not at the moment considered a contructive one. I am not able to do much about that. It is a management decision.
GommeInc
03-10-2011, 05:35 PM
No of course not but that type of thread is not at the moment considered a contructive one. I am not able to do much about that. It is a management decision.
Well let's hope that they remember they're running a fansite and not a school/business organisation, where humour is natural :P
I don't think spam should be segmented into 100 different forums but the threads within could be categorized by the thread poster with the user of prefixes? What say thee?
AgnesIO
03-10-2011, 05:49 PM
I don't think spam should be segmented into 100 different forums but the threads within could be categorized by the thread poster with the user of prefixes? What say thee?
If you do that, one for habbo. Nothing else is necessary.
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I don't think spam should be segmented into 100 different forums but the threads within could be categorized by the thread poster with the user of prefixes? What say thee?
Also, we only asked for one extra. A habbo one in the habbo section.
Mathew
03-10-2011, 06:06 PM
Adding a prefix wouldn't solve the problem. The problem is that Spam has a certain stigma surrounding it and it's completely unwelcoming to Habbo users. This will not change regardless of whether there's a prefix or not.
It needs a spam section to the Habbo forum or completely relax the rules so some decent things can be posted... :P
Catzsy
03-10-2011, 06:09 PM
I don't think spam should be segmented into 100 different forums but the threads within could be categorized by the thread poster with the user of prefixes? What say thee?
I think this is a really good idea which could remain flexible and be at least trialled. :)
By we, you mean the 5 people that have said yes to a specific habbo forum?
However I will rephrase, "I don't think spam should be divided" and that seems the general consensus in management.
Regardless of stigmas, spam is spam and all of it belongs to one forum. The prefix will just ensure that those who aren't interested in habbo spam won't get duped into opening a thread related to habbo because the thread had a vague title such as "OMGZ LOLZ" and then feel the massive injustice because of it.
I do think it should be, Habbo, Technology and Other.
Mathew
03-10-2011, 06:19 PM
I disagree and I don't think "spam is spam". The current spam forum is a place for every Tom, **** and Harry to whine about whatever they like that day. A spam forum specifically for Habbo would be for just that; Habbo. Perhaps the word "spam" is being misleading the real thing "we're" looking for is a bit more freedom, as opposed to sticking to tight rules out of fear of being called "pointless".
New members would be way more inclined to chat to each other in a Habbo spam section rather than the general. The current clique in spam should be recognised and respected. Take advantage of the cliques and move forwards.
If it's going to be a prefix then I just wouldn't bother at all. A new member is going to post a thread with [Habbo] in the name and everyone is going to jump down their throats. Why bother? :P
Plus, a prefix would just be another reason for moderators to edit your post and add it in.. :rolleyes:
AgnesIO
03-10-2011, 06:24 PM
By we, you mean the 5 people that have said yes to a specific habbo forum?
However I will rephrase, "I don't think spam should be divided" and that seems the general consensus in management.
Regardless of stigmas, spam is spam and all of it belongs to one forum. The prefix will just ensure that those who aren't interested in habbo spam won't get duped into opening a thread related to habbo because the thread had a vague title such as "OMGZ LOLZ" and then feel the massive injustice because of it.
I do think it should be, Habbo, Technology and Other.
Shows how much you look at this forum if you think that. No one posts spam about technology :S
And last time I checked, we could be two people?
Catzsy
03-10-2011, 06:31 PM
Shows how much you look at this forum if you think that. No one posts spam about technology :S
And last time I checked, we could be two people?
Not at the moment but why not just give it a chance?
AgnesIO
03-10-2011, 06:37 PM
Not at the moment but why not just give it a chance?
Because if people don't post spam about technology now, they are not going to start when their is a prefix. We have conversations in tech (and I expected there will be a big one tomorrow since the next iPhone/iPod Touch (or iTouch as many idiots call it) - but there is not generally spam. However, with habbo you get spam now so evidently will even with prefixes. I really don't think adding prefixes makes sense, as it won't change peoples opinions.
As long as I get the credit for it
<3
I don't think spam should be segmented into 100 different forums but the threads within could be categorized by the thread poster with the user of prefixes? What say thee?
As long as I get the credit for it
<3
OH MY GOD GET OUT SERIOUSLY IF YOU WANT SOME CREDIT:
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6048/picever.png
Now, here's the thing about separate Spam forums, if you want a forum where members all talk, you DONT split the forums up into little groups. Hardly anyone is going to post in the Habbo forums if there's a Habbo Spam, did you even think of that?! I get the idea, you must think its fab, but it's really not. If you want to post in Spam you can do, it's welcome to people of all ages... Just don't go near Tom if you're under the age of 16 and don't be an idiot and you won't have a problem with people in the spam forum?
Spam people don't bite, jeez.
AgnesIO
04-10-2011, 07:06 AM
OH MY GOD GET OUT SERIOUSLY IF YOU WANT SOME CREDIT:
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6048/picever.png
Now, here's the thing about separate Spam forums, if you want a forum where members all talk, you DONT split the forums up into little groups. Hardly anyone is going to post in the Habbo forums if there's a Habbo Spam, did you even think of that?! I get the idea, you must think its fab, but it's really not. If you want to post in Spam you can do, it's welcome to people of all ages... Just don't go near Tom if you're under the age of 16 and don't be an idiot and you won't have a problem with people in the spam forum?
Spam people don't bite, jeez.
But it is unrealistic to expect everyone to talk and like talking to every member - and the common divide is young habbo players and non habbo players/"experienced" players
feel so honoured
OH MY GOD GET OUT SERIOUSLY IF YOU WANT SOME CREDIT:
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6048/picever.png
Now, here's the thing about separate Spam forums, if you want a forum where members all talk, you DONT split the forums up into little groups. Hardly anyone is going to post in the Habbo forums if there's a Habbo Spam, did you even think of that?! I get the idea, you must think its fab, but it's really not. If you want to post in Spam you can do, it's welcome to people of all ages... Just don't go near Tom if you're under the age of 16 and don't be an idiot and you won't have a problem with people in the spam forum?
Spam people don't bite, jeez.
GommeInc
04-10-2011, 09:44 AM
Prefixes are ugly, so I don't think people will be happy with prefixes in the spam forum :P I don't see why people keep saying it should be given a chance or trialed, when the majority seem to be against the Spam forum being touched. If that's the case, a trial should not be done as it clearly is an unwelcomed idea. Trying to push it seems rather selfish and arrogant :/ The general feedback to this idea is either just let people post Habbo Spam in the Spam Forum, or to relax the rules in the Habbo section to allow for discussions with a tiny bit of humour in the already existent Habbo forums.
I don't see the idea of prefixes in the spam forum...
Spam has and always will be non-habbo and you will get flamed for posting habbo in spam.
Spam habbo posts should be allowed in habbo in general, it will only die down. People are just too bothered about post count! I couldn't care less for post count...
I don't see the idea of prefixes in the spam forum...
Spam has and always will be non-habbo and you will get flamed for posting habbo in spam.
Spam habbo posts should be allowed in habbo in general, it will only die down. People are just too bothered about post count! I couldn't care less for post count...
Fact is, Spam isn't Non-Habbo, but the people who post in there have grown out of Habbo. How would you like me to post Runescape stuff in the Habbo forum? It's pretty much the same thing lol.
What? :S It's nothing like the same thing as posting habbo stuff in a habbo section? :S
Fact is, Spam isn't Non-Habbo, but the people who post in there have grown out of Habbo. How would you like me to post Runescape stuff in the Habbo forum? It's pretty much the same thing lol.
Hecktix
04-10-2011, 07:39 PM
Habbo in spam should be encouraged, not discouraged or it will be another contribution to this forum slowly getting less and less active as it has over the past few years - something that management have recognised over the past few years and encouraged things such as Habbo in spam to help the forum.
Look at it this way, there's one reason why there is a myth that Habbo content is not allowed in the spam forum on Habbox and that's because once upon a time there was a "spam crew" on this forum who were essentially the forum bullies and you only posted in spam if you got on with this large group of people and if anybody else posted they would be victimised and bullied out. This worked quite well for the forum when the "spam crew" was large, however as this began to dwindle it basically meant people just wouldn't post in spam.
HabboxForum has gone from a community mainly made up of older teenagers who aren't that into Habbo anymore to a community where the majority are young Habbo players, these players start posting in spam and some users find it odd that this is encouraged, at the end of the day if they weren't posting in spam, there'd be even less posts in spam, so you die hard spam crew wannabies need to get over it, as if you care about HxF you should welcome such posts.
Any member of this forum whether they've been here 1 day or 6 years, whether they are management or a HabboxLive trialist they should be allowed to post in any open public section of the forum, and following forum rules they should be able to post exactly what they like.
If a rule was introduced banning Habbo content from spam it'd be another example of Nazi-rule-making, something this forum really does not need.
Stephen
04-10-2011, 07:45 PM
What? :S It's nothing like the same thing as posting habbo stuff in a habbo section? :S
He's talking about posting habbo stuff in spam not habbo stuff in habbo. Bloody hell
Yes but he is saying that it's okay to post habbo in spam and relating that to saying it's ok to post runescape in habbo (sarcastically) when clearly you can't post runescape in habbo?
He's talking about posting habbo stuff in spam not habbo stuff in habbo. Bloody hell
Stephen
04-10-2011, 08:47 PM
Right.. He is saying it as something like runescape. They want to talk about runescape, but if you go in there and talk about habbo then you're gonna get moaned at even if you were allowed to.
Most people who use spam regularly are older members who don't really like habbo or even talk about habbo so posting habbo in spam could be like posting habbo in runescape to some people in spam
GET IT
don't like the prefixes idea at all, will look ugly and i don't think it'd work. i don't understand why you can't just have a spam thread in the habbo forum? surely that fixes the idea.
and a technology prefix? i think it's pretty hard to spam about technology and is it nearly always has some relevance to something.
GommeInc
04-10-2011, 10:10 PM
don't like the prefixes idea at all, will look ugly and i don't think it'd work. i don't understand why you can't just have a spam thread in the habbo forum? surely that fixes the idea.
and a technology prefix? i think it's pretty hard to spam about technology and is it nearly always has some relevance to something.
If it's as popular as they believe it will be, one thread would be a complete mess with different conversations going on in one thread. Also there's the problem of disabling post counts in threads but I'm not sure if it's been confirmed if it is now possible to do so or not. As far as I see it, anything with Habbo in must have some sort of significance. Habbo Spam must be really boring and uninteresting if no ounce of discussion can come of it. Even posting a funny picture of someone saying something stupid is worse at least some amount of discussion - humour shouldn't be frowned upon at least :P
No, he talked about posting rs in habbo
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No, he talked about posting rs in habbo
js
*REMOVED*. I mean even Stephen got it, and that's saying something.
Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude!
If you actually made sense when you wrote I'd understand it. No, I'm not an idiot, or stupid I just didn't understand your very poorly written sentence(s).
*REMOVED*. I mean even Stephen got it, and that's saying something.
Edited by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): Please do not be rude!
Stephen
06-10-2011, 09:21 PM
If you actually made sense when you wrote I'd understand it. No, I'm not an idiot, or stupid I just didn't understand your very poorly written sentence(s).
The thing is I explained it as clearly as I could without covering up one of your ears and hammering the details into the other and you still didn't get it
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