Steve Jobs has passed away

[HotelUser]

http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/

I really have to say, I felt extremely bad reading this. I had no idea his condition was so serious. He was truly one of the world's leaders in the technology industry and it's terrible he passed away so young.

[Casanova]

I just read this... dear god talk about timing!?
a day after his last work is unleashed.

[GoldenMerc]

Oh wow, how did he die?

[beth]

i said in the last thread i gave him weeks after he resigned because the way he resigned seemed so final. a great loss, but he has done so much in his life. r.i.p.

[Oleh]

Such unfortunate timing that a huge business magnate should leave this earth so early in his companies dominance in it's respective markets.

My condolences go out to all his family

[HotelUser]

i said in the last thread i gave him weeks after he resigned because the way he resigned seemed so final. a great loss, but he has done so much in his life. r.i.p.

He certainly did accomplish a lot, that's for sure.


Oh wow, how did he die?

I'm not sure. I know he's had cancer in the past but I really don't know what's happened now and I don't want to wrongly speculate or guess:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Jobs#Health

[StefanWolves]

Thats actually very, very sad. Rip.

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Damn. RIP Steve Jobs! Say what you want about the dude, he pursued his dreams/vision with a focus and intensity most of us will never touch.

[danzooo]

Former chief executive and co-founder of US techonlogy giant Apple Steve Jobs has died, the company says. He was 56.
"Steve's brilliance, passion and energy were the source of countless innovations that enrich and improve all of our lives. The world is immeasurably better because of Steve," Apple said.
Jobs announced he was suffering from pancreatic cancer in 2004.
His death came a day after Apple unveiled the new iPhone 4S at its headquarters in California.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15193922


(http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15193922)http://www.apple.com/


Well and truly tragic loss of such a brilliant and active mind. RIP Steve #thankyousteve

Thread merged by Infectious (Forum Super Moderator): From "Current Affairs", as there is already a thread discussing this!

[StefanWolves]

The strange thing is so many people will learn about his death using something he created. His work completely defined a generation IMV anyway. Very sad day.

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http://t.co/pibTjfkY

[iJess]

awww r.i.p steve jobs:( xox

[Stephen]

I feel bad that I went straight to sickipedia :(

[Mark]

Such a shame, very intelligent and someone who revolutionised the way we use our phones, RIP

[iBlueBox]

I actually put a picture of Steve Jobs yesterday behind my locker door, in school for a joke. As everyone things im obsessed with Apple...


Truly Sad :(

[xxMATTGxx]

Sadly we all know it was coming. Such a shame from a man who turned around a company which now makes billions, a lot of people will indeed miss him. R.I.P :(

I think we know the reason why he died, I can't think of it being anything else and if it is then it's very surprising. It is a sad day as he did change a technology company around which now makes billions, he had many great ideas that people will agree or disagree to. He will be missed by many, may he R.I.P.

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"The world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact Steve has had, the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come. For those of us lucky enough to get to work with him, it's been an insanely great honor. I will miss Steve immensely." ~ Bill Gates.

"The world has lost a visionary. And there may be no greater tribute to Steve's success than the fact that much of the world learned of his passing on a device he invented. Michelle and I send our thoughts and prayers to Steve's wife Laurene, his family, and all those who loved him." ~ Barack Obama

[Recursion]

Did not expect to wake up to this :O

There's no doubting he knew how to market a product, drive sales and run a company, he was a very smart man and a great loss to many, many people.

[Zuth]

Wow, big shock, RIP Steve! I'm sure you will be missed.

Such a smart, intelligent man. RIP Steve

[Thomas]

rip steve :'(

[Recursion]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqhr46trpa1qz9917o1_500.png
http://digg.com/news/technology/an_rip_logo

[Catzsy]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqhr46trpa1qz9917o1_500.png
http://digg.com/news/technology/an_rip_logo

The logo is very touching. Such a shame. At least he had his last few weeks with his family. :( RIP Steve.
Also I cleaned this thread out of all off-topic posts so it would be nice and respectful to keep it that way if possible. Thanks :)

[StefanWolves]

I think the fact that he was working up until only 6 weeks before his death also speaks volumes.

[Mathew]

Just a day after the announcement of iPhone 4S and iOS 5.... such a shame! R.I.P. :(

[GommeInc]

Saw this last night as it happened. Such a shock that it happened so suddenly. Jobs and many other individuals have helped shaped the world we see today. A remarkably interesting man to read about, he was good at marketing a product and quite a good, influential business man. His passing will have a huge impact.

[Mathew]

The strange thing is so many people will learn about his death using something he created. His work completely defined a generation IMV anyway. Very sad day.
That never occured to me! I got a text from my friend at 6:39am this morning and I checked on the BBC News app on my iPad... Wow... :'(


http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqhr46trpa1qz9917o1_500.png
http://digg.com/news/technology/an_rip_logo
So touching. So appropriate.

Not only was he the genius behind Apple, but he also played a significant role in Pixar and the Walt Disney Company's Board of Directors. So much achievement at such a young age; a clear cut idol if I ever saw one.

R.I.P Steve :'(.

[.:Wahu:.]

Such a sad sad loss :( i was actually eating lunch with my friends and i got the email saying of his passing. Steve did so much for our world of course as we know founder of Apple but also founder of Pixar. It's such a shame to see him lose his battle with cancer. R.I.P Steve Jobs, you will not be forgotten by anyone.

[AgnesIO]

This really is a tragic loss.

Cannot believe he is gone, just like that. He is a true inspiration, and was key in creating what could be the best known band, in the world.

[Chris]

Such sad news. When I woke up and saw the news this morning I was shocked. :(

R.I.P Steve!

[The Don]

I saw this last night while browsing the internet on my ipod touch, shows how much of an impact his work has had on the world. Such sad news, RIP :(

[xxMATTGxx]

Microsoft has confirmed that flags are half-staff at all campuses worldwide for Steve Jobs

Been reading a number of websites while in college today. In one the sessions the tutor put up a video that showed many of his great moments while at Apple then it was spoiled by an idiot saying "Any jobs at Apple then". You may or may not like Apple but the guy sure did a hell of a lot for the technology industry worldwide.

[Chippiewill]

It's a testament to his commitment to Apple and technology in stepping down as CEO so shortly before his death.

[xxMATTGxx]

http://cdn.theatlantic.com/static/infocus/jobs100611/s_j21_00000001.jpg

http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2011/10/steve-jobs-1955-2011/100164/

The link above has some good images during Steve Job's lifetime at Apple and also shows what people have been doing around the world, in terms of leaving their messages and so on.

[brandon]

R.I.P Steve.

[iBlueBox]

Orded Steve Jobs Autobiography just then.

[geo]

omg i was so shocked. such a big loss!

rip steve :(

[Rainbow]

r.i.p steve jobs :'(

[Ajthedragon]

R.I.P.

Your inventions really have helped shape the naughties! Long may your inventions live!

So sad people can die so young. :(

[HotelUser]

What also bothers me is that he died from cancer. Jack Layton the leader of the national NDP Party of Canada also passed away due to cancer this year. It is very upsetting to hear of deaths from cancer, especially when these two individuals would of had a lot of resources to attempt to beat the disease but in the end did not. Very very frightening.

@Matt thanks for those quotes from Bill Gates and President Obama, I was wondering if Bill Gates specifically would say anything. On my local Google anyway, it mentions Steve Jobs on the home page.

[Recursion]

Google mentions Jobs on the UK home page too, maybe they'll get a Google Doodle up tomorrow for it.

Rather nice gallery: http://gizmodo.com/5847415/the-best-visual-tributes-to-steve-jobs-around-the-web/gallery/1

[Neversoft]

Rest in peace. Jobs done.

[AgnesIO]

Rest in peace. Jobs done.

Too early.

[xxMATTGxx]

http://www.omnigroup.com/assets/images/banners/thanks.png

http://www.omnigroup.com

[Chippiewill]

XKCD released a very exceedingly rare thursday edition of his comic.
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/eternal_flame.gif
"There's always the hope that if you sit and watch for long enough, the beachball will vanish and the thing it interrupted will return."

For those who don't understand, it's meant to be a memorial for steve jobs, and the beachball represents his death (The 'application' has died)

[HotelUser]

XKCD released a very exceedingly rare thursday edition of his comic.
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/eternal_flame.gif
"There's always the hope that if you sit and watch for long enough, the beachball will vanish and the thing it interrupted will return."

For those who don't understand, it's meant to be a memorial for steve jobs, and the beachball represents his death (The 'application' has died)

I actually had to take a second glance at that busy icon, because I can't remember the last time I've seen it on my Mac. Either way, cute comic :P

[JoeyK.]

As much as I hate Apple for charging double what a product is worth, there is no denying that this man was a genius, and revolutionized the way we look at technology. Rest in peace.

[xxMATTGxx]

Google and Samsung were today going to launch a new handset but it seems they have both delayed due to the death of Steve Jobs.


Samsung and Google decide to postpone the new product announcement at CTIA Fall. We agree that it is just not the right time to announce a new product. New date and venue will be shortly announced.

http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-google-delay-android-handset-launch-in-wake-of-steve-jobs-death/


If that is the case, then that is pretty darn good of both companies.

[AgnesIO]

Google and Samsung were today going to launch a new handset but it seems they have both delayed due to the death of Steve Jobs.



http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-google-delay-android-handset-launch-in-wake-of-steve-jobs-death/


If that is the case, then that is pretty darn good of both companies.

Indeed it is. Also, I imagine they will do what Apple do and try and rip Apple us much as possible in terms of stats - so I guess it wouldn't really be appropriate to do that right now..

[StefanWolves]

As much as I hate Apple for charging double what a product is worth, there is no denying that this man was a genius, and revolutionized the way we look at technology. Rest in peace.Companies have to make money, you know

[Recursion]

Companies have to make money, you know

I'm not turning this into a war but Apple's products were marked up ridiculous amounts.

[JoeyK.]

Companies have to make money, you know

There's a difference between that and being worth nearly 350 Billion USD. Sorry, but anyone paying $1200 for a low-end laptop with integrated graphics really didn't do their homework (AKA base 13" Pro). HP marks up their laptops about 4%, as opposed to Apple marking theirs up over 100%.

Apple is the most valuable company in the world for a reason; they charge a premium for relatively mediocre products. Guess it works for them though, wish I bought Apple stock a few years ago!

Anyway, probably not the best place to start a Mac vs Microsoft vs Linux vs whatever thread. Like I said, Jobs did great things; let's focus on his accomplishments rather than his business practices.

[iBlueBox]

No denying though, Jobs and Apple did do a great way of marketing of there products. Even if they are so expensive.

[GommeInc]

Google and Samsung were today going to launch a new handset but it seems they have both delayed due to the death of Steve Jobs.



http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/07/samsung-and-google-delay-android-handset-launch-in-wake-of-steve-jobs-death/


If that is the case, then that is pretty darn good of both companies.
How odd, not sure why that would be a mark of respect but fair play I guess.


Companies have to make money, you know
Odd thing to say. No one has disputed this? It's why they make the money, which is in question.

[Recursion]

How odd, not sure why that would be a mark of respect but fair play I guess.

It's probably more the fact that the launch would be overshadowed by Jobs' death more than a mark of respect.

[GommeInc]

It's probably more the fact that the launch would be overshadowed by Jobs' death more than a mark of respect.
Possibly, once the funeral is over it will be business as usual (as harsh as it sounds). At the moment it seems quiet, but a bad idea for releasing anything. When the funeral date is set the run up to the funeral, and a few days after, will see Steve Jobs related news overshadowing virtually anything in tech news.

[ROT]

lol sucks to be him

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[AgnesIO]

lol sucks to be him

I just wish trolls were ever funny

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[ROT]

lol i wasnt trying to be funny nor am i a troll

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[Showder]

He has truly been an inspiring yet a genius man I have ever known in my generation.
His creativity of Apple has shocked the world and I hope he may be in a better place right now.

[GommeInc]

Apparently the funeral is this Friday (14th) and will be a small, private affair for his family. Apple may be holding a seperate event to celebrate his life. It's very confusing as the news came out Saturday at some point, and it seemed like it happened last Friday with the time differences.

[-Amyy]

Can't believe he has died :( RIP Steve! xx

[beth]

thanking him for making me a lovely reliable phone this afternoon when bb users are struggling, cheerrsss steve xoxox

[JoeyK.]

thanking him for making me a lovely reliable phone this afternoon when bb users are struggling, cheerrsss steve xoxox

I'm sorry, but I've owned three different iPods; Apple and 'reliable' do not go together in the same sentence. Apparently their products only work until your one year warranty expires, then they expect you to spend another three hundred dollars.

4S- Perfect example. Typical Apple marketing of "you have the best of the best, but you have to pay to keep up with it. Anything more than a year old is no longer supported, get with the picture and give us more money."

The sad thing is that Apple fanboys support this marketing scheme, and will dish out as much money as they can to Apple to feel 'cool.'

Apple forces you into one product, and charges a premium for every single transaction you place on the device. (/socialism? /monopoly? Wouldn't question it if Apple was not the most valuable brand in the world, for doing nothing than producing a single phone and a few music players) Android allows other companies to produce hardware, and allows root capabilities with its phones. I guess people prefer to do what they are told rather than use their products to the best of their abilities.

PS - Multitasking; We can kind of do it. New concept, right? Oh, wait...

[Recursion]

I'm sorry, but I've owned three different iPods; Apple and 'reliable' do not go together in the same sentence. Apparently their products only work until your one year warranty expires, then they expect you to spend another three hundred dollars.

iPod Video is still working fine, my old 'square' iPod Nano still works, my iPod Touch 2nd Gen still works, my MacBook still works and my iPad coming up to a year still works (even if it did have to be replaced one month after I got it, but even then they took it and just gave me a brand new one in the store).

I'd say they pretty much have their reliability and customer service down.

[Lost_Addict]

I'm sorry, but I've owned three different iPods; Apple and 'reliable' do not go together in the same sentence. Apparently their products only work until your one year warranty expires, then they expect you to spend another three hundred dollars.

4S- Perfect example. Typical Apple marketing of "you have the best of the best, but you have to pay to keep up with it. Anything more than a year old is no longer supported, get with the picture and give us more money."

The sad thing is that Apple fanboys support this marketing scheme, and will dish out as much money as they can to Apple to feel 'cool.'

Apple forces you into one product, and charges a premium for every single transaction you place on the device. (/socialism? /monopoly? Wouldn't question it if Apple was not the most valuable brand in the world, for doing nothing than producing a single phone and a few music players) Android allows other companies to produce hardware, and allows root capabilities with its phones. I guess people prefer to do what they are told rather than use their products to the best of their abilities.



PS - Multitasking; We can kind of do it. New concept, right? Oh, wait...

I've had my iphone 3G for over 2 and a half years now and it still works fine....

[HotelUser]

I'm sorry, but I've owned three different iPods; Apple and 'reliable' do not go together in the same sentence. Apparently their products only work until your one year warranty expires, then they expect you to spend another three hundred dollars.

4S- Perfect example. Typical Apple marketing of "you have the best of the best, but you have to pay to keep up with it. Anything more than a year old is no longer supported, get with the picture and give us more money."

The sad thing is that Apple fanboys support this marketing scheme, and will dish out as much money as they can to Apple to feel 'cool.'

Apple forces you into one product, and charges a premium for every single transaction you place on the device. (/socialism? /monopoly? Wouldn't question it if Apple was not the most valuable brand in the world, for doing nothing than producing a single phone and a few music players) Android allows other companies to produce hardware, and allows root capabilities with its phones. I guess people prefer to do what they are told rather than use their products to the best of their abilities.

PS - Multitasking; We can kind of do it. New concept, right? Oh, wait...

I own a G3 and G4 iMac that still work flawlessly as well as an iPad for a year with no quirks. It sounds like you just had a bad experience. Also there is multitasking in iOS4 and iOS5.

[GirlNextDoor15]

R.I.P Steve Jobs.

[Mr-Trainor]

Anything more than a year old is no longer supported, get with the picture and give us more money.

The 3GS came out in 2009 and is still supported.

[xxMATTGxx]

Apple have updated the following:

http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/

[Recursion]

Apple have updated the following:

http://www.apple.com/stevejobs/

Some of those really are heart touching.

[AgnesIO]

I'm sorry, but I've owned three different iPods; Apple and 'reliable' do not go together in the same sentence. Apparently their products only work until your one year warranty expires, then they expect you to spend another three hundred dollars.

4S- Perfect example. Typical Apple marketing of "you have the best of the best, but you have to pay to keep up with it. Anything more than a year old is no longer supported, get with the picture and give us more money."

The sad thing is that Apple fanboys support this marketing scheme, and will dish out as much money as they can to Apple to feel 'cool.'

Apple forces you into one product, and charges a premium for every single transaction you place on the device. (/socialism? /monopoly? Wouldn't question it if Apple was not the most valuable brand in the world, for doing nothing than producing a single phone and a few music players) Android allows other companies to produce hardware, and allows root capabilities with its phones. I guess people prefer to do what they are told rather than use their products to the best of their abilities.

PS - Multitasking; We can kind of do it. New concept, right? Oh, wait...

I've had my iPod Nano 2nd Generation since the release year and it is still going strong. Baring in mind the release year was 2006..

[GommeInc]

Not being rude, but they're dragging out him dying a little bit too much... There's a limit and they passed it a week ago. The media is to blame for dragging it out, (Apple obviously can still mourn) they are literally coming up with any old boring story to report on about Jobs, and I can't help but think it's becoming disrespectful and unnecessary :/

Also, loads of places are literally making up information as they go. When did Jobs bring computers to the masses? And when did he create the internet? Loads of people are getting carried away and assuming Jobs created modern day phenomena such as the internet, the computer, the smartphone etc.

[AgnesIO]

Not being rude, but they're dragging out him dying a little bit too much... There's a limit and they passed it a week ago. The media is to blame for dragging it out, (Apple obviously can still mourn) they are literally coming up with any old boring story to report on about Jobs, and I can't help but think it's becoming disrespectful and unnecessary :/

Also, loads of places are literally making up information as they go. When did Jobs bring computers to the masses? And when did he create the internet? Loads of people are getting carried away and assuming Jobs created modern day phenomena such as the internet, the computer, the smartphone etc.

I think it is fair, he was after all a huge man in technology and in many respects did change the world. If the c-founder of a company dies they will put a lot up about it - even more so when it is a company as massive as Apple with such an influential co-founder..

[GommeInc]

I think it is fair, he was after all a huge man in technology and in many respects did change the world. If the c-founder of a company dies they will put a lot up about it - even more so when it is a company as massive as Apple with such an influential co-founder..
But it's literally dragging on. There's no new information and the respects have already been given, I can't help but think it's becoming disrespectful to keep getting people to share their thoughts when there is a limit to how many times you can say R.I.P. Especially when the media is turning to making up news and information to gage more attention. He was influential, yes, but I don't want to be reminded every 5 seconds because I don't need to be. It's becoming a cult culture.

[AgnesIO]

But it's literally dragging on. There's no new information and the respects have already been given, I can't help but think it's becoming disrespectful to keep getting people to share their thoughts when there is a limit to how many times you can say R.I.P. Especially when the media is turning to making up news and information to gage more attention. He was influential, yes, but I don't want to be reminded every 5 seconds because I don't need to be. It's becoming a cult culture.

This thing on the website is the first thing I have seen since the last 'batch' (eg. when he died)

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Also, it was only two weeks ago. We are hardly talking months..

[GommeInc]

This thing on the website is the first thing I have seen since the last 'batch' (eg. when he died)

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Also, it was only two weeks ago. We are hardly talking months..
You don't have the misfortune to be followig Mashable :P I've literally lost all respect for them. This remembrance feed on Apple seems a bit late if I'm brutally honest, but I guess it's how it is reported rather than the actul feed. It's there as a new little feature to remember Jobs, but as it's something new it will inevitably be leaped upon. I'm expecting the BBC to leech off this feed now to make boring reports. Let Jobs rest, it's the main premise of resting in peace. You wouldn't keep muttering R.I.P. and digging up someone who is meant to be resting in peace in reality, so Christ knows why the online world is doing it. I just find it odd, and a bit rude and disrespectful.

EDIT: Never said it has been months. It doesn't mean it doesn't wear thin. The first week was fine, and then it became silent. Now they're doing what is pretty annoying which is bringing it back up and dragging it out.

[HotelUser]

But it's literally dragging on. There's no new information and the respects have already been given, I can't help but think it's becoming disrespectful to keep getting people to share their thoughts when there is a limit to how many times you can say R.I.P. Especially when the media is turning to making up news and information to gage more attention. He was influential, yes, but I don't want to be reminded every 5 seconds because I don't need to be. It's becoming a cult culture.

Again, I am not surprised you have taken this view (being completely anti-Apple that you are :P). I've hardly heard about his death other than on Engadget, and everyone talking about it in real life for a few days of course! I think you might be slightly on the fussy side here!

[GommeInc]

Again, I am not surprised you have taken this view (being completely anti-Apple that you are :P). I've hardly heard about his death other than on Engadget, and everyone talking about it in real life for a few days of course! I think you might be slightly on the fussy side here!
How unsurprising, an incredibly rude and ignorant post :/ When did I post anything anti-Apple? :S The BBC, Mashable, ITV keep reporting it, making up "facts" and keep digging him up to post something surprisingly uninteresting. If you took the time to read you would realise it was an attack on the media, but you like to post to create pointless arguments so it's completely unsurprising for you to glaze over a post, take none of it in and assume I must be attacking Apple. Read it again, I assume you have more than 5 brain cells to your name to be able to comprehend what I actually wrote.

I think it's disgusting to keep metaphorically digging someone up to keep reporting on how dead they are and how missed they should be. The BBC/Mashable posted another none-news article a few hours ago, about how he was working until his death. No crap Sherlocks', he stepped down as CEO but was still on the board, of course he would of kept working. It's infuriating how dumb and ignorant the media are, and how yet again a man who should be resting in peace is dug up for one more show.

EDIT: I didn't even mention Apple in that single post you quoted. Dare I say it, you were doing the 5 letter T word?

[scottish]

http://i.imgur.com/76RkJ.png

just saying.

[GommeInc]

http://i.imgur.com/76RkJ.png

just saying.
Oh yeah, I noticed this too. No-one cared about Dennis Richie, which is shocking... Isn't it disputed that iOS is a modified version of Unix, or at least loosely based on it? It's an interesting discussion, people who work for free or allow their products to be widely accessible for as little cost get forgotten while those who do very little i.e. only good at marketing and making lots of money are remembered.

[AgnesIO]

http://i.imgur.com/76RkJ.png

just saying.

That is basically people jealous of his success..

[AgnesIO]

How unsurprising, an incredibly rude and ignorant post :/ When did I post anything anti-Apple? :S The BBC, Mashable, ITV keep reporting it, making up "facts" and keep digging him up to post something surprisingly uninteresting. If you took the time to read you would realise it was an attack on the media, but you like to post to create pointless arguments so it's completely unsurprising for you to glaze over a post, take none of it in and assume I must be attacking Apple. Read it again, I assume you have more than 5 brain cells to your name to be able to comprehend what I actually wrote.

I think it's disgusting to keep metaphorically digging someone up to keep reporting on how dead they are and how missed they should be. The BBC/Mashable posted another none-news article a few hours ago, about how he was working until his death. No crap Sherlocks', he stepped down as CEO but was still on the board, of course he would of kept working. It's infuriating how dumb and ignorant the media are, and how yet again a man who should be resting in peace is dug up for one more show.

EDIT: I didn't even mention Apple in that single post you quoted. Dare I say it, you were doing the 5 letter T word?

The media write about what people want to read..

[GommeInc]

The media write about what people want to read..
This is quite a naive thing to say. The media do not write about what people want to read, they primarily write for the pure benefit of having their articles written and in many cases will over-do it to over-publicate even when the world doesn't care or shouldn't care. Do people really want to believe Jobs created the internet and brought PCs to the masses, all of which are not absolutely true? It's sensationalist rubbish piggy-backing a man who died, it's so disrespectful. If people really want to be fed lies, then natural selection should of got these people sooner rather than later as it's not news, it's pure lies and over-reporting where the original intension of respecting a good marketeer has turned into a media circus created purely by the media and not by what people wanting to read and to learn. If the media went by what people wanted to read, then you'd get good news articles or something based on truths or actual "news". As it stands now, they're writing to benefit themselves by posting benine statements like Jobs working until he died, which anyone with brains would know is incredibly likely as he didn't leave Apple, he stepped down as CEO and remained on the Board of Directors. If the media are writing for the people, then they're writing for an ignorant majority which I hope is not true.


That is basically people jealous of his success..
So a man who created the foundations of modern day technology deserves no respect? It's double standards, a man who actually brought computing to the masses by creating computing language versus a man who is only known as a good marketer and product designer. Also, your comment isn't based on anything, where are the obvious "jealousy" comments in that image? It's quite accurate. One man created the foundations of modern day technology (Dennis Richie) while the other based his empire on those foundations (Jobs). Importantly, one didn't profiteer from it while the other made a lot of money. You could even talk business ethics and suggest Jobs' business empire has cost more lives and poverty than Richie's creation, which hasn't cost the lives of Chinese workers or product obsession. Using the "jealous" route to sum up your argument isn't a good basis for a counter-argument.

[Recursion]

Oh yeah, I noticed this too. No-one cared about Dennis Richie, which is shocking... Isn't it disputed that iOS is a modified version of Unix, or at least loosely based on it? It's an interesting discussion, people who work for free or allow their products to be widely accessible for as little cost get forgotten while those who do very little i.e. only good at marketing and making lots of money are remembered.

iOS/MacOS has it's roots in UNIX, yes.

[GommeInc]

iOS/MacOS has it's roots in UNIX, yes.
Yay, I did learn something in ICT all those years ago :D

[AgnesIO]

This is quite a naive thing to say. The media do not write about what people want to read, they primarily write for the pure benefit of having their articles written and in many cases will over-do it to over-publicate even when the world doesn't care or shouldn't care. Do people really want to believe Jobs created the internet and brought PCs to the masses, all of which are not absolutely true? It's sensationalist rubbish piggy-backing a man who died, it's so disrespectful. If people really want to be fed lies, then natural selection should of got these people sooner rather than later as it's not news, it's pure lies and over-reporting where the original intension of respecting a good marketeer has turned into a media circus created purely by the media and not by what people wanting to read and to learn. If the media went by what people wanted to read, then you'd get good news articles or something based on truths or actual "news". As it stands now, they're writing to benefit themselves by posting benine statements like Jobs working until he died, which anyone with brains would know is incredibly likely as he didn't leave Apple, he stepped down as CEO and remained on the Board of Directors. If the media are writing for the people, then they're writing for an ignorant majority which I hope is not true.


So a man who created the foundations of modern day technology deserves no respect? It's double standards, a man who actually brought computing to the masses by creating computing language versus a man who is only known as a good marketer and product designer. Also, your comment isn't based on anything, where are the obvious "jealousy" comments in that image? It's quite accurate. One man created the foundations of modern day technology (Dennis Richie) while the other based his empire on those foundations (Jobs). Importantly, one didn't profiteer from it while the other made a lot of money. You could even talk business ethics and suggest Jobs' business empire has cost more lives and poverty than Richie's creation, which hasn't cost the lives of Chinese workers or product obsession. Using the "jealous" route to sum up your argument isn't a good basis for a counter-argument.

If we are going to talk about the crap over Chinese lives, lets point out if it wasn't for those like Jobs they wouldn't have the jobs in the first place :rolleyes:

And of course they do. The media wouldn't write something if no one wanted to read it. They want to make money, which they won't do if people don't want to read it..

[GommeInc]

If we are going to talk about the crap over Chinese lives, lets point out if it wasn't for those like Jobs they wouldn't have the jobs in the first place :rolleyes:

And of course they do. The media wouldn't write something if no one wanted to read it. They want to make money, which they won't do if people don't want to read it..
Hmmm, I don't think you understand economics and the media too well :P The media do not ask a council of public members about what articles to write. They write what they want the public to read, not write what the public want to read. As for economics, Apple (not Jobs) may have got those people employed, but there's huge discussions about Westernisation and the pressure of globalisation on weak, cheap labour like China. Then there's the arguments that perhaps unemployment is not necessarily as bad thing, or shouldn't be for the Chinese if it wasn't for western powers and capitalist values. It's a huge, unnecessary discussion about corporate social responsibility :P

But we are deferring away from the original point. Dennis Richie deserves respect too, not just Jobs. Jobs built his empire on the foundations Richie laid. It's not jealousy, it's about respecting someone who actually made a difference, not someone who profitted and gets the credit. Jobs obviously deserves some respect, but we shouldn't turn a blind eye to a truely innovative individual who didn't have dollar signs in his eyes.

[AgnesIO]

Hmmm, I don't think you understand economics and the media too well :P The media do not ask a council of public members about what articles to write. They write what they want the public to read, not write what the public want to read. As for economics, Apple (not Jobs) may have got those people employed, but there's huge discussions about Westernisation and the pressure of globalisation on weak, cheap labour like China. Then there's the arguments that perhaps unemployment is not necessarily as bad thing, or shouldn't be for the Chinese if it wasn't for western powers and capitalist values. It's a huge, unnecessary discussion about corporate social responsibility :P

But we are deferring away from the original point. Dennis Richie deserves respect too, not just Jobs. Jobs built his empire on the foundations Richie laid. It's not jealousy, it's about respecting someone who actually made a difference, not someone who profitted and gets the credit. Jobs obviously deserves some respect, but we shouldn't turn a blind eye to a truely innovative individual who didn't have dollar signs in his eyes.

I have a feeling we are misunderstood each other.

I know they write on a bias to whatever side they want to write about, but the actual article will be something that interests people.

For example, the sun will NEVER have "A little white rabbit has died of old age. The rabbit belonged to a family in West Sussex."

[HotelUser]

http://www.amazon.ca/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648537

I just heard about this Steve Jobs biography. Sounds very interesting, I think I'll pick up a copy on my iPad :)

[N!ck]

http://www.amazon.ca/Steve-Jobs-Walter-Isaacson/dp/1451648537

I just heard about this Steve Jobs biography. Sounds very interesting, I think I'll pick up a copy on my iPad :)

Sounds good.

Posted from my custom built Windows 7 PC.

[ROT]

lol sucks to be him

lolagez xDxD

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