Habbox Diversity

[Zeptis]

I walked into the Saturday Night Quiz today, and the name of the event got me thinking, "It isn't night for me, In fact it isn't even noon yet". My point is Saturday Night Quiz is kinda only night time for people in Europe and what about the people in New Zealand (where it is 6am I believe) and America who wanna spend the Saturday sleeping in until 12. My Idea to fix this is to possible have 2 SNQ's one for each timezone because in all fairness, I do see why I shouldn't be able to participate in The quiz, despite the fact that I suck at quizes. So I think thi idea should be taken into strong consideration.

Oh and to add, I think this should be done for many other events that only people in GMT timezones can participate in like weekly events that at 6pm which is 10am for me and I am at school, so basically I am not allowed to attend these events unless I ditch school or something, J/S

[Alex3213]

I don't think we should have two quizzes because after all, they're the help desk department and 2 quizzes would just get repetitive! However it's been mentioned time and time again, I know I mentioned it for about 4 meetings running when I was HxHD staff and then just got sick of nothing happening. It is something which needs to be sorted (I think a couple of hours later wouldn't be too bad to be honest as well) because it really makes other timezones feel "oh they're only going to cater for a small proportion of the world, stuff this) when we're actually, now, a fansite for all who speak English!

[Zeptis]

I don't think we should have two quizzes because after all, they're the help desk department and 2 quizzes would just get repetitive! However it's been mentioned time and time again, I know I mentioned it for about 4 meetings running when I was HxHD staff and then just got sick of nothing happening. It is something which needs to be sorted (I think a couple of hours later wouldn't be too bad to be honest as well) because it really makes other timezones feel "oh they're only going to cater for a small proportion of the world, stuff this) when we're actually, now, a fansite for all who speak English!

I think having the quiz a few hours later would be reasonable, because after all it is Saturday, and we stay up late anyway, and would only be ten o' clock

[Alex3213]

I think having the quiz a few hours later would be reasonable, because after all it is Saturday, and we stay up late anyway, and would only be ten o' clock

Aye. Also, whilst it would attract other time zones, more people may watch it due to TV programmessuch asThe X Factorfinishing and therefore perhaps a larger proportion of people from the UK arriving too! :)

[Zeptis]

Aye. Also, whilst it would attract other time zones, more people may watch it due to TV programmessuch asThe X Factorfinishing and therefore perhaps a larger proportion of people from the UK arriving too! :)

I really don't see how that has anything to do with it, but Yeah!

[Jordan]

I remember this problem when I was in the HxHD... and that was a year ago! I agree with delaying the time of the quiz maybe till 11/12, as for the UK it is still popular and then the other people waking up in other timezones would fit nicely!

[Sharon]

not even bothered about saying this. in my eyes habbox is, was and always will be uk based no matter how many *removed* americans sign up.

ps. i'm in a **** mood.

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[Inseriousity.]

There's a diverse range of people at Habbox from many different countries but anyone who stays at Habbox for a while will recognise that it is predominantly a UK website and therefore certain events and times will reflect that. That's not to say we will push you away if you happen to live somewhere else and we will alwaystry and accomodate as many people as possible. So the saturday night quiz is likely to stay in the UK timezone and we will encourage as many departments as possible to make US/AU timezones. I think HabboxLive, in particular, are the best at this but I do think the hxhd snq is a unique event for hxhd and that would be diminished by having multiple quizzes all the time. :)

[GommeInc]

It would be impossible to please everyone. Habbox is mostly UK based and to have events at 11 PM or 12 AM may be unfair for many UK members who are established members of the Habbox Community. Having two events is unrealistic as it would be time consuming for the events staff. The best option is to have a mixture of events at different times - one event for late night in the UK which would cater for UK members at night, and members in the US in the late afternoon. Unfortunately, with this suggestion Australian members will miss out.

It's just one problem where diversity doesn't work for a mostly UK based team of staff.

[Zeptis]

not even bothered about saying this. in my eyes habbox is, was and always will be uk based no matter how many *removed* americans sign up.

ps. i'm in a **** mood.

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There's a diverse range of people at Habbox from many different countries but anyone who stays at Habbox for a while will recognise that it is predominantly a UK website and therefore certain events and times will reflect that. That's not to say we will push you away if you happen to live somewhere else and we will alwaystry and accomodate as many people as possible. So the saturday night quiz is likely to stay in the UK timezone and we will encourage as many departments as possible to make US/AU timezones. I think HabboxLive, in particular, are the best at this but I do think the hxhd snq is a unique event for hxhd and that would be diminished by having multiple quizzes all the time. :)


It would be impossible to please everyone. Habbox is mostly UK based and to have events at 11 PM or 12 AM may be unfair for many UK members who are established members of the Habbox Community. Having two events is unrealistic as it would be time consuming for the events staff. The best option is to have a mixture of events at different times - one event for late night in the UK which would cater for UK members at night, and members in the US in the late afternoon. Unfortunately, with this suggestion Australian members will miss out.

It's just one problem where diversity doesn't work for a mostly UK based team of staff.

I understand that this website wasoriginallybased in the UK before the Merge, and after the merge, but now post merge, this place is a mixing pot were we have people from around the world, I think since is the case, Habbox should be able to cater to so more people in other timezones.

[beth]

i don't think another quiz would be appropriate, i don't think we'd get enough people at the new second one and we have a vip quota so we can't double up on prizes. moving it a couple of hours later would work. maybe 9-ish?

[HotelUser]

not even bothered about saying this. in my eyes habbox is, was and always will be uk based no matter how many *removed* americans sign up.

ps. i'm in a **** mood.

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Arguably one of the kind and dedicated staff member who did wonders for Habbox and certainly a lot more than one hell of a lot of UKers (and Canadians, we shant forget that) is Nvrspk, who is American.

I do not, never did and never will see Habbox as based and oriented around one geographic location. This just simply isn't the case, because all around the fansite every day I see aspects from multiple cultures or multiple places shine through. And on a completely coincidental and unrelated note I know quite a few skinny and fat folks all around the world, in America and the UK ;)

[Catzsy]

I understand that this website wasoriginallybased in the UK before the Merge, and after the merge, but now post merge, this place is a mixing pot were we have people from around the world, I think since is the case, Habbox should be able to cater to so more people in other timezones.


Arguably one of the kind and dedicated staff member who did wonders for Habbox and certainly a lot more than one hell of a lot of UKers (and Canadians, we shant forget that) is Nvrspk, who is American.

I do not, never did and never will see Habbox as based and oriented around one geographic location. This just simply isn't the case, because all around the fansite every day I see aspects from multiple cultures or multiple places shine through. And on a completely coincidental and unrelated note I know quite a few skinny and fat folks all around the world, in America and the UK ;)


I agree with both of these. Since the merge I have seen the amount of international members absolutely skyrocket and I believe that if this forum is too grow and grow they should be catered for a lot more. The OP brings up a good point I believe which all departments should think about although HXL do lead the way here imo.

[Zeptis]

I agree with both of these. Since the merge I have seen the amount of international members absolutely skyrocket and I believe that if this forum is too grow and grow they should be catered for a lot more. The OP brings up a good point I believe which all departments should think about although HXL do lead the way here imo.

Yeah HxL is doing fine, they pretty much always have a DJ on they are not to worry

[beth]

i think what rosie means by the hxl comment is that currently we have a very strong group 3 team and are a 24 hour international team, rather than just our airtime.

events wise internationally i posted about this in staff only a month or so ago and i made an extended effort to host events out of gmt times the last two or so weeks i have been banned and then ill so i will be getting back to hosting those events soon.

however i do not think we need another snq. unless perhaps the help desk held a later mid week event?

[GommeInc]

I understand that this website wasoriginallybased in the UK before the Merge, and after the merge, but now post merge, this place is a mixing pot were we have people from around the world, I think since is the case, Habbox should be able to cater to so more people in other timezones.
Indeed, it would be ideal to cater for these people and they probably should, but the merge was a bad idea considering the lack of support Habbo gives fansites since before the merge was ever thought about. Publicity brought up an interesting point: Prizes. Are there enough prizes in stock to give to winners of different events? To combat this, Habbox would need to really work towards events that Habbos would enjoy on Habbo that would make them cough up some rares as prizes (or credits and smaller furniture) to cater for departments creating new, different events for other members of the community (I say different as to have an exact double of an event makes it boring the second time round and makes it obvious Habbox or any other fansite is just trying to cater for more people, when making problems obvious makes the problem worse :P)

If this is a problem, I'm slightly concerned that no action is being taken sooner. I seem to be noticing people saying "It isn't a problem, this isn't a fixed location hotel" and just leaving it at that. Prove it, go and fix these concerns as they clearly exist. However, I have to agree that this is a UK majority website and it may never change, the use of language, characteristics and choice of discussion seem awfully British.

EDIT: Out of curiosity, what were the questions like in the Quiz? I can see UK members doing well and other nationalities doing poorly :P Quizzes tend to have to be one-culture/nation based, otherwise you get a mess. So if you do want to cater for other nationalities, have two seperate events (UK Quiz/US Quiz) because making multi-cultural quizzes are virtually impossible to do in real life, let alone virtually :P

[Hopeless]

There are events that benefit everyone though, I don't think the SNQ should be separated from the other events that are consistently provided by Habbox. Without opening up the timetable in the last few weeks I know Publicised has done events at 2 and 3AM GMT. Which is peak time for those users in Cananda/America. There are also events in the morning in UK which is a good time for the Australians. There is something for all users regardless of their time zones.

In addition, SNQ is on a Saturday and it's 12-2PM for American and Canandians which really isn't all that much of a bad time :P

[xxMATTGxx]

There are events that benefit everyone though, I don't think the SNQ should be separated from the other events that are consistently provided by Habbox. Without opening up the timetable in the last few weeks I know Publicised has done events at 2 and 3AM GMT. Which is peak time for those users in Cananda/America. There are also events in the morning in UK which is a good time for the Australians. There is something for all users regardless of their time zones.

In addition, SNQ is on a Saturday and it's 12-2PM for American and Canandians which really isn't all that much of a bad time :P

Think it was more aimed at people from the other side of the world such as Australia/New Zealand and so on. Because 7pm in Sydney is like 6am or something silly like that.

[Hopeless]

Think it was more aimed at people from the other side of the world such as Australia/New Zealand and so on. Because 7pm in Sydney is like 6am or something silly like that.

Ah, OK, I probably should read or something. My point about SNQ not being differentiated from other Habbox Events that are on around the clock and therefore allowing everyone to participate regardless of time zone remains though :P

[-Charityy]

I don't think there should be two SNQs as the prize is VIP and we have quotas, etc. However moving it back an hour or two couldn't hurt. The thing is... I'm American and I am able to come to the SNQ every week. It's not aridiculously early time for anyone in the US (I'm not sure about Australia though).

[Ekelektra]

SNQ is on at 3am-6am in Australia depending on where you are.
I don't think there should be two quizzes as people have said there's a VIP limit :)
I guess it's just unfortuante that Habbo merged and suddenly all the fansites had to cater for international users.

[Sharon]

No there shouldn't be two quizzes and that's it. The majority are still and always will be UK based. The 7PM slot also works for Americans (well that's what it said on the previous page) and just because there's a handful of Australians flittering about doesn't mean we should lose out members by changing the time.

If you think about it, we also have a handful of people from Asia now too. You just can't cater for everybody, there are also other ways to win VIP. To most people Habbox will always be UK based.

[Hopeless]

I don't think there should be two SNQs as the prize is VIP and we have quotas, etc. However moving it back an hour or two couldn't hurt. The thing is... I'm American and I am able to come to the SNQ every week. It's not aridiculously early time for anyone in the US (I'm not sure about Australia though).

YOU DIDN'T COME TO MINE YESTERDAY :'(

[HotelUser]

No there shouldn't be two quizzes and that's it. The majority are still and always will be UK based. The 7PM slot also works for Americans (well that's what it said on the previous page) and just because there's a handful of Australians flittering about doesn't mean we should lose out members by changing the time.

If you think about it, we also have a handful of people from Asia now too. You just can't cater for everybody, there are also other ways to win VIP. To most people Habbox will always be UK based.

Though true to an extent that doesn't necessarily mean we shouldn't try to accommodate for as many people as possible. As Kay said it probably wouldn't hurt to push the quiz back one hour and she's absolutely right, it wouldn't hurt. Another problem with quizes that I always experienced with HxHD was that many folks would make the questions oriented around the UK, politics, football, or other topics really only UKers know the answers to. This is priority in my opinion for something that we still have to stop doing. Questions in a quiz should be non regional related so asking football questions, or questions about British television should not be happening, because there's no way the majority of us in North America will know anything about that.

[sophiethenerd]

Though true to an extent that doesn't necessarily mean we shouldn't try to accommodate for as many people as possible. As Kay said it probably wouldn't hurt to push the quiz back one hour and she's absolutely right, it wouldn't hurt. Another problem with quizes that I always experienced with HxHD was that many folks would make the questions oriented around the UK, politics, football, or other topics really only UKers know the answers to. This is priority in my opinion for something that we still have to stop doing. Questions in a quiz should be non regional related so asking football questions, or questions about British television should not be happening, because there's no way the majority of us in North America will know anything about that.

Thing is, questions are hard enough to write anyway :P And if you have to make sure all questions are appropriate for all cultures, you end up with a Geography,Maths and Habbox quiz. And in a Habbox quiz you could argue it was unfair for newer users who might not know all the managers names and so on.
In an ideal world we would have events round the clock and questions that a person from Antartica could get .(If they spoke English :P) But that is never going to happen I'm afraid.

[HotelUser]

Thing is, questions are hard enough to write anyway :P And if you have to make sure all questions are appropriate for all cultures, you end up with a Geography,Maths and Habbox quiz. And in a Habbox quiz you could argue it was unfair for newer users who might not know all the managers names and so on.
In an ideal world we would have events round the clock and questions that a person from Antartica could get .(If they spoke English :P) But that is never going to happen I'm afraid.

You're right it is hard to come up with questions but asking football questions, or questions about things which are clearly UK only should be a giant thing to avoid doing whilst conducting a quiz.

[Samantha]

To be honest I feel there is no need to move it from where it is now. Yes Australians can't really come on for it but they do get DJ shows and some events when it's prime time for them? Heck sometimes there are a lot later on then there is in the day so in that sense you can't really complain. If Aussie's want to win VIP then enter competitions? A few hours later is ok but not like 11/12 because I know for a fact I wouldn't be able to come on and win Sharon VIP ofc! However, 9pm is good because I think it's a round time for many people and as many of you have said you can't please everyone.

With the questions, you need to think outside the box, go to trivia races or quizzes now and there are tons of all-rounder question topics.

GAW, Stop The bus, Habbox (however, if people think it's unfair to have Habbox questions in HABBOX events then what they doing there? No offence but it's Habbox and surely there should be Habbox based questions). Fastest Typer, Furni Mission, Geography, etc. That's 6 topics and can double them up and have some more beside.

[Alex3213]

In regards to questions, I am totally in agreement with Dave: questions related to the UK, or America or Canada or Australia even, is a big no-no. However I think we have to remember it's a quiz, and not some stupid, pathetic, lame attempt of a quiz where you're asking to write a 10 letter word starting with the letter P. Sure, if that's going to be an event, then feel free but I think as a quiz they're not what a quiz should be about.

Furthermore I don't know how much it changed but there were times in the past where the same question was used... over, and over, again. There's so many questions you can make up, ranging in difficulty, so I don't understand why this has to be such a big problem because it can easily be sorted out!

[GommeInc]

You're right it is hard to come up with questions but asking football questions, or questions about things which are clearly UK only should be a giant thing to avoid doing whilst conducting a quiz.
The only thing a multi-cultural quiz can talk about is popular music and maybe sports. Politics wise some countries lack interests politically and culturally in places like America where interest in Europe only exists if Obama is in the area. They're incredibly difficult to produce, so you're better off having just the one quiz based on popular culture in the UK (where the majority of Habbox users come from) or at most two quizzes aimed towards specific countries e.g. UK Quiz for Thursday, US Quiz for Friday (whatever you wish). You'd be clutching at straws to find interesting things to include in quizzes otherwise.

I can't see how Habbo quizzes can be that fun anyway :P The best quizzes are ones that play music samples and have you guess the title of the song or the show the theme tune relates to, or show a picture of part of a flag, landmark etc. that you have to guess or find out. Also, people can cheat with Habbo quizzes - you've got the internet.

[HotelUser]

The only thing a multi-cultural quiz can talk about is popular music and maybe sports. Politics wise some countries lack interests politically and culturally in places like America where interest in Europe only exists if Obama is in the area. They're incredibly difficult to produce, so you're better off having just the one quiz based on popular culture in the UK (where the majority of Habbox users come from) or at most two quizzes aimed towards specific countries e.g. UK Quiz for Thursday, US Quiz for Friday (whatever you wish). You'd be clutching at straws to find interesting things to include in quizzes otherwise.

Asking a question about Football or British film means basically only people from the UK have a fair shot at getting the question correct. Sure you'll always be excluding someone based on the sort of question you ask but football and British film questions are massively excluding a huge group of people from being able to have a fair stab at the question. Simple Math, Habbo Questions, Hollywood film (ones like Harry Potter or Batman that are internationally popular not just in one place where as British Film is), general knowledge, international current affairs are just several more broad categories to ask questions in than just British sports or TV because the reason a user wouldn't know the answer to my categories listed wouldn't often be regionally based. It was a rule we had several years ago which outlined that we stray away from questions oriented around one region. It's a very fair request, and is something I would presume our quizers should still abide by today.

[GommeInc]

Asking a question about Football or British film means basically only people from the UK have a fair shot at getting the question correct. Sure you'll always be excluding someone based on the sort of question you ask but football and British film questions are massively excluding a huge group of people from being able to have a fair stab at the question. Simple Math, Habbo Questions, Hollywood film (ones like Harry Potter or Batman that are internationally popular not just in one place where as British Film is), general knowledge, international current affairs are just several more broad categories to ask questions in than just British sports or TV because the reason a user wouldn't know the answer to my categories listed wouldn't often be regionally based. It was a rule we had several years ago which outlined that we stray away from questions oriented around one region. It's a very fair request, and is something I would presume our quizers should still abide by today.
General knowledge is a tricky question. It varies, some regions have their own idea of what general knowledge is :P It is a fair request, but it depends if you want to sacrifice the quality of the quiz in doing so. The questions would have to be so researched and straight to the point too, so not to confuse people. Simple math isn't really what makes a quiz - that's just homework for primary school children. Tough math questions is better for quizzes - the users will have to use their brains and not Google :P It would literally have to be popular world culture like films and music, some categories like international current affairs differ with relevance to the country. Like I said, America usually doesn't get told of much that happens in the UK, Europe or Australia - unless everyone watches BBC News (and that US channel that uses BBC News). A lot of thought will definitely have to be put into the quizzes, and they have to be fun otherwise it feels like you're doing homework :P

[HotelUser]

[@]@gommeinc[/@] -shrugs- my point here is that football and British media are two very popular topics for quizes and they shouldn't be. It would be impossible to create a complete list of what to exclude on quizes in terms of fairness but those two categories should definitely be disregarded due to regional reasons (and again this is likely still a modern concept for HxHD quizes because I know it used to be considered in the past).

On another note, there's many good questions I've seen at quizes which were pretty fair game for all contenders involved. It just depends on how creative the host wishes to get. I know I've completely forgotten about SNQ in the past and then ended up hosting it myself while making up questions on the spot. Sometimes quizes like that are fun, and work out lovely, and sometimes questions are moderately unfair at times and it does not work well. In short, it also doesn't take much effort to comprise a list of 20 fun questions which offer a sort of fairness to everyone. It's always great to participate in a really challenging quiz where everyone else is just as challenged as you are :P

With regards to questions relating to international affairs, I would consider questions like, "Obama is the Xth Black President of the USA", "When did WWII begin?", "China has which sort of government?", "Kim Jong-Il is how many years old?" - questions essentially anyone should have fair game to answer.

[Neversoft]

Football I can understand, but British cinema? We're not frickin' Zimbabwe. We have a flourishing film industry with some of the most celebrated directors in the world and successful films of all time. Everyone should be able to wrap their heads around some film questions.

[HotelUser]

Football I can understand, but British cinema? We're not frickin' Zimbabwe. We have a flourishing film industry with some of the most celebrated directors in the world and successful films of all time. Everyone should be able to wrap their heads around some film questions.

Something like Narnia or Harry Potter, sure! But there's not a whole lot of North Americans who know what Coronation Street or Eastenders is, or know about the UK X Factor. I've been to many quizes where there's been questions about all three of those, and a few others I had absolutely no idea about because they don't exist on this side of the pond. The UK does have a huge film industry, but you have to remember that much of it is known to the rest of the world :P

[Neversoft]

Something like Narnia or Harry Potter, sure! But there's not a whole lot of North Americans who know what Coronation Street or Eastenders is. I've been to many quizes where there's been questions about both of those, and a few others I had absolutely no idea about because they don't exist on this side of the pond. The UK does have a huge film industry, but you have to remember that much of it is known to the rest of the world :P

Coronation Street nor Eastenders are part of the UK's film industry. You're talking about British television, which is certainly a niche subject and wouldn't cover a widespread audience. I assume you meant 'not much of it is known' in the last sentence, but truly unless you're talking independent cinema, a lot of it really is known by the rest of the world. The two highest grossing film franchises in the world are British. I can't imagine the quiz questions would be about obscure British films such as This Is England or Fish Tank, anyway. It would all be mainstream stuff which is general knowledge these days. But hey ho. I don't want to preach. :P

[HotelUser]

Coronation Street nor Eastenders are part of the UK's film industry. You're talking about British television, which is certainly a niche subject and wouldn't cover a widespread audience. I assume you meant 'not much of it is known' in the last sentence, but truly unless you're talking independent cinema, a lot of it really is known by the rest of the world. The two highest grossing film franchises in the world are British. I can't imagine the quiz questions would be about obscure British films such as This Is England or Fish Tank, anyway. It would all be mainstream stuff which is general knowledge these days. But hey ho. I don't want to preach. :P

I did infact mean 'not known', my apologies. It looks like we are on the same page here anyways. The key seems to have been to differentiate between film and television :P