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-:Undertaker:-
01-12-2011, 03:55 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2068291/Jeremy-Clarksons-One-Show-rant-strikers-SHOT-branded-silly-David-Cameron.html

I would have had them all SHOT! Clarkson's rant at strikers branded silly by Cameron (and now union demands a police probe)

- BBC receives more than 4,700 complaints
- Unison taking legal advice about 'appalling' comments
- David Cameron tells the Top Gear presenter it was a 'silly thing to say'
- Ed Miliband says the comments are 'disgraceful and disgusting'


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A national treasure: Jeremy Clarkson on This Morning


Jeremy Clarkson could face a police investigation after he said that those striking should be shot. Speaking on the BBC's One Show he said that government workers refusing to work should be killed in front of their families. Today Unison general secretary Dave Prentis said they were seeking 'urgent legal advice' about whether his comments had been referred to police. This afternoon the BBC said it had received 4,769 complaints about Mr Clarkson, but a spokesman for Scotland Yard said they had not yet received a complaint.

David Cameron described Clarkson's remarks as 'a silly thing to say'. Labour leader Ed Miliband said he had not heard the comments but added that they were 'absolutely disgraceful and disgusting'. He said: 'Jeremy Clarkson should apologise for those comments. He obviously does not understand the lives of the people who were going out on strike yesterday.' Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson said of strikers: 'Frankly I would have them all shot. I would take them all outside and execute them in front of their families.' Dave Prentis, general secretary of Unison, called for Clarkson to be sacked by the BBC.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuuDnqSPnhA&feature=player_embedded

The Unions are angry because, well, since when could the left ever take a joke? he's only making light fun of their failed strike yesterday when many Union members didn't even bother to vote or strike. As for the bandwagoners, Cameron and Miliband - Miliband says its 'disgusting' (this is the man who's party started two illegal wars resulting in many British deaths let alone foreign deaths, along with hounding Dr. David Kelly to death over the WMD lies) and Cameron says its a 'silly thing' to say (coming from the man who promised a referendum on the Lisbon Treaty, making him the fool for promising one in the first place). I know both points are unrelated but i'm sick to death of these people speaking as though they speak for the nation when they only speak for themselves.

Time for people to grow up and stop being so sensitive to everything, especially tongue-in-cheek jokes.


I wouldn't want to harm anyone but I do have a massive problem with under-worked people striking about their already cushy benefits. Wake up public sector people and get in the real world, you're making a show of yourselves being so totally unaware of what is happening to the rest of the British public and the real hardship they face. I'm sure you'll bring out examples of hard working nurses. Yep, we've heard it all before. Millions of private sector people world hard and long hours for limited wages and the risk of being laid off or made redundant with no back up. Not everyone is a banker. Get over yourselves.

- Katy, London, 30/11/2011 23:19

Clarkson for Prime Minister.

Thoughts?

beth
01-12-2011, 04:09 PM
jeremy .clarkson is a ******* idiot and he needs to really watch what he's saying. just because he lives a life of luxury (i don't think he's ever had it hard) doesn't mean the rest of us do.

lost all respect for the man. disgusting.

-:Undertaker:-
01-12-2011, 04:11 PM
jeremy .clarkson is a ******* idiot and he needs to really watch what he's saying. just because he lives a life of luxury (i don't think he's ever had it hard) doesn't mean the rest of us do.

lost all respect for the man. disgusting.

Yeah its errr called a joke? which means he doesn't actually want strikers shot.. Besides I can agree with you partly because you are right on the 'the rest of us dont live a life of luxary' - thats exactly what the Unions and the public sector need to understand before they go about asking for even more generous pay packages/pensions.

beth
01-12-2011, 04:14 PM
it's not a 'joke' when yr living through something like that sadly. i have studied stand up comedy and have in fact written and performed comedy to audiences, so i do have access to a fully working sense of humour.

my dad was on strike yesterday and not because he necessarily wanted to, the library he works for was shut because there wasn't enough people to man it. so that's a days pay lost. my dad WOULD have worked if the library had been open. so it's not so funny when yr sitting there dealing with the consequences of these reforms.

jeremy clarkson has always been a ******* joke.

-:Undertaker:-
01-12-2011, 04:16 PM
it's not a 'joke' when yr living through something like that sadly. i have studied stand up comedy and have in fact written and performed comedy to audiences, so i do have access to a fully working sense of humour.

my dad was on strike yesterday and not because he necessarily wanted to, the library he works for was shut because there wasn't enough people to man it. so that's a days pay lost. my dad WOULD have worked if the library had been open. so it's not so funny when yr sitting there dealing with the consequences of these reforms.

jeremy clarkson has always been a ******* joke.

Its not your humour, but does that mean you need to be so reactionary to his tongue in cheek comments? as for the reforms, why complain? the public sector is given far better pensions (even with reforms) than the private sector despite the fact the private sector foots the bill.

Not all of this is nice, but at the end of the day - you only have the Labour Party to blame for the enormous debts we have.

Swearwolf
01-12-2011, 04:17 PM
someone had to say it, good on him

Catzsy
01-12-2011, 04:18 PM
jeremy .clarkson is a ******* idiot and he needs to really watch what he's saying. just because he lives a life of luxury (i don't think he's ever had it hard) doesn't mean the rest of us do.

lost all respect for the man. disgusting.

Totally agree. Much as I love Top Gear he has an ego the size of an elephant and a very low EQ.

beth
01-12-2011, 04:19 PM
Its not your humour, but does that mean you need to be so reactionary to his tongue in cheek comments? as for the reforms, why complain? the public sector is given far better pensions (even with reforms) than the private sector despite the fact the private sector foots the bill.

Not all of this is nice, but at the end of the day - you only have the Labour Party to blame for the enormous debts we have.

he's not being tongue-in-cheek though, he's being a **** as per usual.

also, that may be so, but what is blame when we need progress?

-:Undertaker:-
01-12-2011, 04:21 PM
he's not being tongue-in-cheek though, he's being a **** as per usual.

also, that may be so, but what is blame when we need progress?

Because if you don't learn from your mistakes (ie, voting for the Labour Party) then you'll never progress.

That includes the other two organisations of disgrace, but focusing on pension reform and a bloated public sector - its 99% the fault of Labour.

beth
01-12-2011, 04:24 PM
Because if you don't learn from your mistakes (ie, voting for the Labour Party) then you'll never progress.

That includes the other two organisations of disgrace, but focusing on pension reform and a bloated public sector - its 99% the fault of Labour.

so what do you suggest i do then? i would frankly rather jeremy clarkson round me up and shot me in front of my family then ever vote tory, i have no interest in UKIP and their fight against europe and the liberal democrats are near enough torys. frankly at the moment i'd choose never to vote again because it's all ********, but that's far too depressing and i'd rather choose to have hope in labour that they are brewing up some plan to save this country while the tories harp on about it being labours fault.

iAdam
01-12-2011, 04:26 PM
Let's all watch it in context;


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=WN72DAlhovY#t=24 s




I find it annoying that if this joke had featured on something like Mock the week, it wouldn't be looked at twice, but because it was bbc 1 at primetime, it's being slaughtered.

xxMATTGxx
01-12-2011, 04:27 PM
People need to understand Jeremy Clarkson it's nothing new from him and anything he says about anything should be taken as a JOKE. It doens't mean he actually means it what so ever, fair do's about the strikes and I have no problems with people striking but he was clearly joking and a lot of people have taken this WAY out of context.

-:Undertaker:-
01-12-2011, 04:27 PM
so what do you suggest i do then? i would frankly rather jeremy clarkson round me up and shot me in front of my family then ever vote tory, i have no interest in UKIP and their fight against europe and the liberal democrats are near enough torys. frankly at the moment i'd choose never to vote again because it's all ********, but that's far too depressing and i'd rather choose to have hope in labour that they are brewing up some plan to save this country while the tories harp on about it being labours fault.

Don't vote any of them then, you don't have to after all.

But don't keep voting for the party which made the mess in the first place and then complain about it.

beth
01-12-2011, 04:28 PM
so what if i think it's funny to go shout about tories being rounded up and shot in front of the familys and say LOL I'VE MADE JKZ LIKE THIS IN THE PAST GUYZ ITS OKAY. its still funny? it's not. and even as a joke it's not funny.

---------- Post added 01-12-2011 at 04:29 PM ----------


Don't vote any of them then, you don't have to after all.

But don't keep voting for the party which made the mess in the first place and then complain about it.

there are women who fought and died for my right to vote, i'd hate to see that go to waste.

-:Undertaker:-
01-12-2011, 04:33 PM
so what if i think it's funny to go shout about tories being rounded up and shot in front of the familys and say LOL I'VE MADE JKZ LIKE THIS IN THE PAST GUYZ ITS OKAY. its still funny? it's not. and even as a joke it's not funny.

Fine by me, it really doesn't concern me - we on the right are pretty much used to be by now anyway; we've been labelled for years as xenophobes, homophobes, racists, fruitcakes, loonies, wealthy scumbags and a whole host of horrid labels.. the list is endless.


there are women who fought and died for my right to vote, i'd hate to see that go to waste.

You have to vote in many dictatorships and it makes no difference, just as it doesn't here in many elections - not voting is one of our most precious rights and its a right that you should exercise whenever you feel there is nobody there competent, suitable or who represents your views.

beth
01-12-2011, 04:43 PM
Fine by me, it really doesn't concern me - we on the right are pretty much used to be by now anyway; we've been labelled for years as xenophobes, homophobes, racists, fruitcakes, loonies, wealthy scumbags and a whole host of horrid labels.. the list is endless.



You have to vote in many dictatorships and it makes no difference, just as it doesn't here in many elections - not voting is one of our most precious rights and its a right that you should exercise whenever you feel there is nobody there competent, suitable or who represents your views.

at the top point, people can be those things regardless of their political allegiance and i myself try to look past peoples political agenda when i talk to them on subjects other than politics. i'm proud to be left wing or as good old dave called ed yesterday "irresponsible, left-wing and weak" and you are proud to be right-wing. that's life. my problem with this "joke" is that its not funny. especially when families are suffering. being controversial doesnt automatically equal being funny.
but that is my sense of humour, and i am entitled to dislike the man and his ******ed jokes. just as much as the clarkson fanboys are allowed to treat him as some sort of god.

with yr second point., i would love to believe that people exercised that right, and if others did i would too. but i know there's enough people just voting for partys because they always have done and always will do. i'd like to believe my vote matters, even if it doesn't. i think it's depressing otherwise.

GoldenMerc
01-12-2011, 04:44 PM
read about this on twitter, seems appauling.

Neversoft
01-12-2011, 04:53 PM
Does anyone really care what Jeremy says anymore? He does this all the time. Nothing will come of it. People need to get used to it and get over it.

Suspective
01-12-2011, 05:08 PM
It was a joke and he chose the wrong show to say it on.

I don't see how its got anything to do with Unison? He didn't mention the name of any unions.

Oleh
01-12-2011, 05:16 PM
I found it pretty hilarious. It was nothing more than a joke, this is one of those times where people forget context and jump onto anything they don't like. I am quite glad that I know nobody who has audacity and downright idiocy to complain about these matters as they all have a sense of humor.

Technologic
01-12-2011, 05:24 PM
He's an idiot but frankly the people striking have no right to do so whilst a hell of alot of people don't even have a job/pension to strike over

Nemo
01-12-2011, 05:33 PM
It's a joke. He makes all sorts of jokes. You cannot take jokes seriously. He is not a politician. We should not care about his views on politics. Move on.

jam666
01-12-2011, 05:35 PM
Im absolutely sick to death of the unions, their champagne socialist leaders, the workers of the public sector protesting about their pension and the left of the political spectrum.

You can hate me all you want for saying this but THERE ARE NO CUTS!!!!, when will people actually look at the figures and understand that public spending is not decreasing and therefore wiping out the defecit (so we run a surplus) until 2017 at the EARLIEST!. 2017 is when we are no longer contributing to the debt, but the debt will still be there. Our total debt is already enroaching onto the 80% mark. There is no money left in the kitty for ANYTHING as anything we are spending is not ours as we do not have any money left!. I've tired to be clear, I really have but no doubt this will still go over the heads of the left wing looneys who want gold-plated pensions of whom those in the private sector could only dream about. Even if the Unions accept the current deal on the table, there will still be a £10,000,000,000 (ten billion) black hole.

Mr Clarkson was only having a joke, some people need laughing sessions I think.

Inseriousity.
01-12-2011, 05:40 PM
lol the one show where they investigate things like 'badgers running riot in the north yorkshire moors' and other boring stuff like that. Clarkson probably knows this and wanted to have a laugh at the presenters' expense who'd have to sit there uncomfortably squirming in their seats. It'll also give him something to rant about in his column in saturday's the sun. :P

Matthew
01-12-2011, 06:04 PM
He's an idiot but frankly the people striking have no right to do so whilst a hell of alot of people don't even have a job/pension to strike over

This. I saw people striking in their early twenties; one guy who had been at work for one year was striking... My dad thought he should be sacked instantly. He has 40 years until he retires, and he is striking? Makes no sense

beth
01-12-2011, 06:06 PM
hiya people who think "LOL U NEED 2 GET A SENSE OF HUMOUR" need to realise that you can have differing tastes in comedy. i find jeremy clarkson undeniably boring.

Mathew
01-12-2011, 06:16 PM
lol, just been speaking to my Dad about this. Apparently the BBC have had over 5000 complaints. Sky News ran a poll to see who agreed with Jeremy Clarkson... and apparently 90% of voters agreed. Brilliant.

Accipiter
01-12-2011, 06:17 PM
Because there's clearly not the slightest hint of sarcasm in his voice

Jeremy Clarksons humour is dull, but if you still can't detect that sarcasm you're even duller and even more pathetic than if the comment was from the heart.

Get a grip you soft *****, you should go cry to your mums not the ******* police about words, I highly doubt the words shot you dead.

If anything he's given the strikes more publicity...

beth
01-12-2011, 06:20 PM
Because there's clearly not the slightest hint of sarcasm in his voice

Jeremy Clarksons humour is dull, but if you still can't detect that sarcasm you're even duller and even more pathetic than if the comment was from the heart.

Get a grip you soft *****, you should go cry to your mums not the ******* police about words, I highly doubt the words shot you dead.

If anything he's given the strikes more publicity...

wow yr interesting because you find jeremy clarkson funny. sorry i forgot he held so much esteem.

might go kill myself because i'm dull because i didn't find him funny. ****.

Accipiter
01-12-2011, 06:23 PM
wow yr interesting because you find jeremy clarkson funny. sorry i forgot he held so much esteem.

might go kill myself because i'm dull because i didn't find him funny. ****.

Apologies you took this some what personally, but he hardly holds an esteem, he holds more of an opinion. It's widely known he's controversial for the fun of it, doing the opposite of what is right for "Teh Lols"

Take off your bubble wrap, you'll realise the world isn't a soft and plushy place soon enough.

beth
01-12-2011, 06:26 PM
Apologies you took this some what personally, but he hardly holds an esteem, he holds more of an opinion. It's widely known he's controversial for the fun of it, doing the opposite of what is right for "Teh Lols"

Take off your bubble wrap, you'll realise the world isn't a soft and plushy place soon enough.

DIES. hun you know nothing about me. controversy doesn't always equal humour, in fact after a while it equals boredom.

Accipiter
01-12-2011, 06:30 PM
DIES. hun you know nothing about me. controversy doesn't always equal humour, in fact after a while it equals boredom.

I hardly judged you, I said that towards the reaction of you and the over 5000 people who think words with a definite hint of sarcasm hurt, they moan because they're to soft to do.

I can hold a sign, big whoop, do something productive, use youinitiative... Frankie Boyle has said much worse things, so has multiple other TV personalities, so has tens of thousands of humans. Instead of crying over words of a simple being why don't they take a look at themselves and think wtf am I doing.

beth
01-12-2011, 06:34 PM
I hardly judged you, I said that towards the reaction of you and the over 5000 people who think words with a definite hint of sarcasm hurt, they moan because they're to soft to do.

I can hold a sign, big whoop, do something productive, use youinitiative... Frankie Boyle has said much worse things, so has multiple other TV personalities, so has tens of thousands of humans. Instead of crying over words of a simple being why don't they take a look at themselves and think wtf am I doing.

you judged me enough to think i had no world experience. and lmao, frankie boyle is funny and his controversial words have some humour behind them. jeremy clarkson is a boring egotistical idiot who seems to think he's funny, when he's not. i agree in that it shouldn't have been THAT BIG A DEAL. but he's not funny, his joke doesn't amuse me and obviously others.

it seems this forum has its little army of clarkson fanboys.

Accipiter
01-12-2011, 06:36 PM
I'm hardly a clarkson fanboy, i'm more of a hate boy of the nation we live in, I find it pathetically foolish at times.

I didn't say you had no world experience, I hinted that if you react bad to such a comment you see the world as it isn't.

He's like a modern hitler... or something, since we like, totally think he's a nazi yeah?

sophiethenerd
01-12-2011, 06:59 PM
Its just a joke guys sheese.

dbgtz
01-12-2011, 07:14 PM
Im absolutely sick to death of the unions, their champagne socialist leaders, the workers of the public sector protesting about their pension and the left of the political spectrum.

You can hate me all you want for saying this but THERE ARE NO CUTS!!!!, when will people actually look at the figures and understand that public spending is not decreasing and therefore wiping out the defecit (so we run a surplus) until 2017 at the EARLIEST!. 2017 is when we are no longer contributing to the debt, but the debt will still be there. Our total debt is already enroaching onto the 80% mark. There is no money left in the kitty for ANYTHING as anything we are spending is not ours as we do not have any money left!. I've tired to be clear, I really have but no doubt this will still go over the heads of the left wing looneys who want gold-plated pensions of whom those in the private sector could only dream about. Even if the Unions accept the current deal on the table, there will still be a £10,000,000,000 (ten billion) black hole.

Mr Clarkson was only having a joke, some people need laughing sessions I think.

Well that's wrong... there are cuts but then more money is put in other places. And in all fairness, a lot of what is implemented by the government will start happening over the next couple of years. That said the government is still ******ed to the extent that they waste so much money in stupid things which aren't vital but still cut from things which are vital, such as education.

Anyway I agree with Clarksons actual opinion (which is not to shoot strikers as that is a joke) and that they need to get a grip.

-:Undertaker:-
01-12-2011, 07:24 PM
Well that's wrong... there are cuts but then more money is put in other places. And in all fairness, a lot of what is implemented by the government will start happening over the next couple of years. That said the government is still ******ed to the extent that they waste so much money in stupid things which aren't vital but still cut from things which are vital, such as education.

Anyway I agree with Clarksons actual opinion (which is not to shoot strikers as that is a joke) and that they need to get a grip.

Government spending overall (ahead of inflation as well) is increasing, not decreasing/staying stable.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8423832/Cuts-What-cuts-Spending-is-rising.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/christopherbooker/8083036/Spending-review-The-cuts-that-mean-public-spending-soars.html
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7042223/the-myth-of-cuts.thtml
http://www.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/7400808/some-context-for-the-ongoing-growth-debate.thtml
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100120354/for-the-last-time-there-are-no-net-spending-cuts/

What the news, the papers and so on feed us about the cuts is simply untrue. This government right now is spending more than any government ever has before in the history of our nation. As I keep saying, there really is no difference between them [the political parties].

I think we should have a debt default followed by enormous cuts in government spending, but neither are happening.

GoldenMerc
01-12-2011, 07:25 PM
Its a joke but people are taking it like he sent a death threat out to a individual.

TheCasualSpy
01-12-2011, 07:44 PM
His problem is he talks what he thinks. Just needs to keep a few things in his head for once

Ajthedragon
01-12-2011, 08:34 PM
Yeah its errr called a joke? which means he doesn't actually want strikers shot.. Besides I can agree with you partly because you are right on the 'the rest of us dont live a life of luxary' - thats exactly what the Unions and the public sector need to understand before they go about asking for even more generous pay packages/pensions.

Totally agree. All taken wildly out of proportion!

The strikers are ******* greedy and should be happy they're getting a ******* 1% pay rise. I work in the private sector and I'm not and my parents haven't had pay rises in three or four years. I'm not getting one of these wonderful pensions the Unions are refusing either.

Recursion
01-12-2011, 10:21 PM
To all the people saying they shouldn't be striking, you're bloody mad, fair enough the younger generations shouldn't, but workers in their late 40s/50s have been working their entire life expecting and paying into pensions for them to be slashed when they have somewhere between 10 years and 3 months left of their working life. You cannot say you wouldn't be doing the same in their situation.

A bloody shambles.

MrAnonymous
01-12-2011, 10:55 PM
People like you make me sick, labour are for the people, much like the 2,500 eilderly people who will die this winter due to the cold, while the 1 percent get 400billion pounds richer, imm sorry, last time i checked, the nurses, doctors, teachers, policemen, firemen,students and everyone else effected by this cuts caused the economy to crash, LOLJk it was the bankers who will the 99 percent sufferd they where reciving bonus's from 300k up. now shut up you tory mug.

Mathew
01-12-2011, 11:17 PM
People like you make me sick, labour are for the people, much like the 2,500 eilderly people who will die this winter due to the cold, while the 1 percent get 400billion pounds richer, imm sorry, last time i checked, the nurses, doctors, teachers, policemen, firemen,students and everyone else effected by this cuts caused the economy to crash, LOLJk it was the bankers who will the 99 percent sufferd they where reciving bonus's from 300k up. now shut up you tory mug.
This is a post full of misinformed, unsupported, bigoted and narrow-minded tosh. I was going to say that I can't help but cringe at your opening sentence ("Labour are for the people"), but it seems the sentence is a paragraph.

We live in a society with a severely ageing population. Health care has advanced dramatically over the past few years and people are living a lot longer than they were when the initial policies were put in place. The working public cannot be expected to fund the increasing amount of "eilderly people" any longer. These same people get a winter fuel allowance which is FORCED upon them (I remember reading someone tried to opt out because they could afford to pay for it themselves, but it was still thrust upon them. It should be an opt-in service)! I know none of this is really related to the strikes but I can't stand posts like this.

Mathew
01-12-2011, 11:48 PM
I've just watched the video of Ed Miliband's response to Clarkson's comments. I don't care what he has to say (let's be honest, who does?) but I'm almost screaming at how his hand gestures are out of rhythm with his spiel. Oh, and I hate his voice. And his hair. And the fact that he uses such simplistic jargon. And the fact that he only says these things to persuade the public who are so completely unaware of his pure and utter ********.

myke
02-12-2011, 12:05 AM
current affairs need a rename to current politics.... i have no idea how any of you have such brain capacities that allow politics (alongside drinking and all the other cool teen stuff) to stay in your minds. dare one of you to say it's because you're educated and i'm not, i'll hurt you for telling lies.

i think what he said was a bit silly and i generally don't like him but whatever, when you see it in context and he says 'this is the bbc i have to balance it', it's doesn't seem as bad but still. don't like him.

Andy
02-12-2011, 12:56 PM
current affairs need a rename to current politics.... i have no idea how any of you have such brain capacities that allow politics (alongside drinking and all the other cool teen stuff) to stay in your minds. dare one of you to say it's because you're educated and i'm not, i'll hurt you for telling lies.

i think what he said was a bit silly and i generally don't like him but whatever, when you see it in context and he says 'this is the bbc i have to balance it', it's doesn't seem as bad but still. don't like him.

what he said :)

GommeInc
02-12-2011, 04:43 PM
The people who have taken this literally need to be shot.

He said, and I quote:

"It's been fantastic. Seriously, never had ... London today has just been empty. Everybody stayed at home, you could whizz about, your restaurants were empty."

"We have to balance it though, don't we because this is the BBC."

"Frankly, I'd have them shot.
I would take them outside and execute them in front of their families."

He was and is in support of the strikes, but some imbred imbesiles only focus on the negatives and never take a joke. They're too busy trotting around like their farts don't stink. The idiots who said he should be sacked for stating a joke need to be shot in the throat. The very right to freedom of expression is the very right they are utilising to express their views over the public sector cuts and pension issues. It's so incredibly frustrating when people, who should of been killed off years ago by natural selection, do not read the full story or watch the very programme the comments were made in. It's also incredibly annoying when someone states their opinion and idiots say he should not be allowed the right to JOKE freely, to joke is the express oneself. These hypocrites are using this right to strike, and without it they wouldn't be allowed to.

I honestly can't believe some people. They're so pig thick it's unbelievable. It was a joke, and some berks get so up in airs over nothing. If anything, the twits who care so much about this have ruined the point of the strike, by diverting attention to Jeremy Clarkson and his irrelevant (though humourous) comments.

I can't believe this is news. Shame on those public sector workers who complained and those not involved in the strikes at all, for ruining the strikes for those who understand humour and sarcasm. Jeremy Clarkson's comment are probably true now given the ignorance of some of these individuals :P

/rant

Ardemax
02-12-2011, 05:49 PM
It was a stupid thing to say at the time tbh and I think everyone can agree with that.

They're striking for a good cause and as mentioned before, he probably hasn't had to change a lightbulb in his life. No doubt he'll be flying first plusplusplus class to China...

Wig44.
02-12-2011, 06:21 PM
Im absolutely sick to death of the unions, their champagne socialist leaders, the workers of the public sector protesting about their pension and the left of the political spectrum.

You can hate me all you want for saying this but THERE ARE NO CUTS!!!!, when will people actually look at the figures and understand that public spending is not decreasing and therefore wiping out the defecit (so we run a surplus) until 2017 at the EARLIEST!. 2017 is when we are no longer contributing to the debt, but the debt will still be there. Our total debt is already enroaching onto the 80% mark. There is no money left in the kitty for ANYTHING as anything we are spending is not ours as we do not have any money left!. I've tired to be clear, I really have but no doubt this will still go over the heads of the left wing looneys who want gold-plated pensions of whom those in the private sector could only dream about. Even if the Unions accept the current deal on the table, there will still be a £10,000,000,000 (ten billion) black hole.

Mr Clarkson was only having a joke, some people need laughing sessions I think.

Pay freezes for 2 years or more while inflation is rampant = a pretty nasty pay-cut in my opinion. Instead of saying 'THERE ARE NO CUTS!!!!' you need to think about inflation and increased cost of living. I know several people who will be much worse off in the future.

Camy
02-12-2011, 07:28 PM
i have studied stand up comedy and have in fact written and performed comedy to audiences, so i do have access to a fully working sense of humour.
omg lol.


Anywho, I've found this whole thing pretty funny. The amount of people that take what he says seriously, and get so outraged at it, that they want him sacked, and threaten legal action is embarrassing.
It's just the typical thing nowadays; 'oh I don't like him, he's horrible, get him off the TV, noone else should be able to watch his stuff.' It's irritating to say the least.

beth
02-12-2011, 07:32 PM
omg lol.



what's funny bbz?!?

Camy
02-12-2011, 07:36 PM
what's funny bbz?!?

I just found it quite amusing you provided some evidence of your sense of humour. :)

jam666
02-12-2011, 07:42 PM
Pay freezes for 2 years or more while inflation is rampant = a pretty nasty pay-cut in my opinion. Instead of saying 'THERE ARE NO CUTS!!!!' you need to think about inflation and increased cost of living. I know several people who will be much worse off in the future.

You cannot justify the rise of inflation in regards to a pay freeze as a pay cut because it is not since it affects EVERY single person in the country not just public sector workers who have had a pay freeze. The government cannot control the rate of inflation directly, it is done via the bank of england and the disgracefully low interest rates that the country now endures. Im not saying it should be at 15% but around the 5% mark is quite healthy (Long term). Most private sector workers have had very little if nothing at all in respects to a pay rise for numerous years.

Yet again I will have to explain there are no cuts in public spending. Most of the media, whitehall and the public are told there is SAVAGE cuts but the story couldnt be further from the truth. Public spending is INCREASING in real terms until the 2016-17 financial year whereby we will no longer have a defecit and can actually start to pay back the enormous pile of debt that the country owns. There is no money left, we dont have any and havn't had any for years as everything we spend isn't ours. I really don't know what's so hard to understand about this as the figures are widely available online.

Lets just imagine for a moment if the general election result was slightly different and labour remained in power. The situation we are in at the moment would be exactly the same in regards to growth and alot worse in regards to soverign debt. You only have to look at the USA who have done things completely the opposite to our current government with increased spending and fiscal stimulus, both countrys are having problems with growth regardless of the approach each takes. However what you cannot deny is the fact if we borrowed even more money upon the appalling amount we are already borrowing, we wouldn't be helping to bailout any EU country with the IMF as it is us who would be going to the IMF for a bailout.

Lot's of people will not like this next statement but I' going to say it anyway, The "cuts" need to be alot harder and alot faster as lots of people simply do not understand the gravity of the dire situation we are currently in. Before anyone asks that wouldnt work, then please look back to canada who had similar problems and resorted to blowing up hospitals. This may sound scary but just take a look at where they are on the economic spectrum and its quite a turn-a-round. Is much better to take short term pain followed by long term gain than it is to suffer for an incredibly long period of time.

Wig44.
02-12-2011, 07:56 PM
You cannot justify the rise of inflation in regards to a pay freeze as a pay cut because it is not since it affects EVERY single person in the country not just public sector workers who have had a pay freeze. The government cannot control the rate of inflation directly, it is done via the bank of england and the disgracefully low interest rates that the country now endures. Im not saying it should be at 15% but around the 5% mark is quite healthy (Long term). Most private sector workers have had very little if nothing at all in respects to a pay rise for numerous years.

Yet again I will have to explain there are no cuts in public spending. Most of the media, whitehall and the public are told there is SAVAGE cuts but the story couldnt be further from the truth. Public spending is INCREASING in real terms until the 2016-17 financial year whereby we will no longer have a defecit and can actually start to pay back the enormous pile of debt that the country owns. There is no money left, we dont have any and havn't had any for years as everything we spend isn't ours. I really don't know what's so hard to understand about this as the figures are widely available online.

Lets just imagine for a moment if the general election result was slightly different and labour remained in power. The situation we are in at the moment would be exactly the same in regards to growth and alot worse in regards to soverign debt. You only have to look at the USA who have done things completely the opposite to our current government with increased spending and fiscal stimulus, both countrys are having problems with growth regardless of the approach each takes. However what you cannot deny is the fact if we borrowed even more money upon the appalling amount we are already borrowing, we wouldn't be helping to bailout any EU country with the IMF as it is us who would be going to the IMF for a bailout.

Lot's of people will not like this next statement but I' going to say it anyway, The "cuts" need to be alot harder and alot faster as lots of people simply do not understand the gravity of the dire situation we are currently in. Before anyone asks that wouldnt work, then please look back to canada who had similar problems and resorted to blowing up hospitals. This may sound scary but just take a look at where they are on the economic spectrum and its quite a turn-a-round. Is much better to take short term pain followed by long term gain than it is to suffer for an incredibly long period of time.

It has the same effect as a pay cut, while inflation affects everyone, not everyone is having their pay freezed outside of the public sector. Just because public sector spending is increasing doesn't mean some current public service workers aren't going to be worse off.

I also have no problem visualising spending whilst in debt as 'spending what isn't ours'...

twinart
03-12-2011, 02:34 PM
He's quite dumby.

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