Habbox Casino Feedback Thread

[GoldenMerc]

Hi,

So obviously this was being discussed here;
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=731434

We were discussing why Habbox should have a casino, if it did have a casino what rules would be pulled into place.

Instead of giving all managers (or staff) rights or D.E (Dealers Entrance) the users would be told to buy the D.E
To allow only the people with D.E we would put into place something that we have in the Habbox HD entrance, which means you can't get in unless you have rights in the entrnace.

Habbox would sell D.E for around 2Gb each, which means it can go towards the competitions and events prizes.

Not only would Habbox be making a bit of furniture off this to go towards better things it would also be attracting a new market of people on Habbo, This would effectively make Habbox more active and more enjoyable.
Ross

[Zuth]

Hi,

So obviously this was being discussed here;
http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=731434

We were discussing why Habbox should have a casino, if it did have a casino what rules would be pulled into place.

Instead of giving all managers (or staff) rights or D.E (Dealers Entrance) the users would be told to buy the D.E
To allow only the people with D.E we would put into place something that we have in the Habbox HD entrance, which means you can't get in unless you have rights in the entrnace.

Habbox would sell D.E for around 2Gb each, which means it can go towards the competitions and events prizes.

Not only would Habbox be making a bit of furniture off this to go towards better things it would also be attracting a new market of people on Habbo, This would effectively make Habbox more active and more enjoyable.
Ross

I agree with this - We do get a little low on coins sometimes so that would help, plus more people signing up to the site/forum cant be a bad thing?

[GoldenMerc]

Just by being 'Habbox Casino' You'd get a bigger audience. Only allow someone like Jin or Sierk to own it due to if it moves around too much people won't be interested.

[The Don]

Also the room would have RM's (Room Moderators) who would essentially make sure the casino ran smoothly and they would be the only people to have rights (other than the room owner) in the casino! :)

OH here's an idea for ya'll:

Once the dealer has built up a reputation they would then be made an 'official' dealer.
There could be awards such as dealer of the week, dealer of the month etc and all these awards could be shown on a habbo group badge which would give the public more faith in the dealers.

Dealers could be forced to pay every month to maintain dealer status whereas official dealers would not? obviously this would lose Habbox a bit of cash which is why there would be a limited amount of official dealers, maybe 3-4?

[GoldenMerc]

Could just have say, if theres been a trusted dealer who's say always in there, paying bets etc, getting recomendations off room mods, they become 'head dealer' etc? people wont pay more than once for d.e really

[beth]

like the idea of habbox making "money", don't like the idea of a casino. sorrrryyyy. just don't think it's responsible, so many things could (and probably would) go wrong, the kinds of users attracted to casino's mainly aren't that pleasant.

[Zuth]

Also the room would have RM's (Room Moderators) who would essentially make sure the casino ran smoothly and they would be the only people to have rights (other than the room owner) in the casino! :)

OH here's an idea for ya'll:

Once the dealer has built up a reputation they would then be made an 'official' dealer.
There could be awards such as dealer of the week, dealer of the month etc and all these awards could be shown on a habbo group badge which would give the public more faith in the dealers.

Dealers could be forced to pay every month to maintain dealer status whereas official dealers would not? obviously this would lose Habbox a bit of cash which is why there would be a limited amount of official dealers, maybe 3-4?

This seems a good idea too

[The Don]

just to get their attention :P

[@]@xxmattgxx[/@]
[@]@jin[/@]

[GoldenMerc]

Are we going to be getting any replys from High management Hmm

[Recursion]

Are we going to be getting any replys from High management Hmm

Yes. ;)

I also disagree with a casino.

[Tom]

Yes. ;)

If I'm honest I don't like the idea of a casino.

[Martin]

As I mentioned in a thread ages ago relating to Habbox having a casino, I really don't think it's that much of a good idea and it could go wrong quite easily. It's very easy for something like this to affect the reputation of Habbox and peoples perceptions of it, and to some people casinos aren't always a good thing. There are various issues with trust etc, and I don't think it would be used that much either. Jin owning it is all well and good, but then you instantly lose the power to ban people from the room should a situation arise. I just don't think that a casino will be much help in attracting the kind of userbase that Habbox needs to step up and get more members. As bethie said, I don't think its a responsible way of doing things and whilst casinos may appeal to certain members of the Habbo community I've found that they are less common these days. It's all about the image we want to present of ourselves on the client and whilst it may bring credits in, the overall running of it and ensuring it complies with maintaining the good image of Habbox would be difficult to manage. HxHD presents its own issues enough, and personally I think more could be done with the helpdesk to drive people in, and I don't think a casino is the right route to go down.

Edit: here's the thread from a few months back where this was discussed http://www.habboxforum.com/showthread.php?t=704511&highlight= Management could ofcourse have a differnent opinion on this now.

[GoldenMerc]

I think aslong as its got Room Moderator's it would be fine though... As said previously in the posts above

[Martin]

What would determine who is chosen to be room moderators?

Also with selling D.E, how can you be 100% certain that the person is going to be trusted? Because I've known people to scam even after paying xxx credits to be a dealer. Even the top dogs do it. One single instance of something like that and it instantly looks extremely bad on Habbox since overall Habbox's name is plastered all over it. You could also get people that haven't been scammed coming in and claiming that they have and thus leading to endless debates over what happened etcetc.

You would really need to be 100% that everything in the room is 100% compliant otherwise you risk doing a lot of damage.

[GoldenMerc]

I guess you'd have to pick a few people who you know are safe.
Yeh obviously people scam, Nocturnals for instance who admitted he scammed on here last week was a pretty big player in the game. Used to own Big casinos etc, the point im making is theres no way we can stop people from scamming, but people could get scammed in HxHD the same way considering trades on?

[Inseriousity.]

I was, in the previous thread that Martin posted earlier in this thread, a supporter of a Habbox Casino and there are definite pros to it but I do think now, ultimately, the cons just makes the whole thing impractical and something that would requiretoo muchtime and effort that could be better spent elsewhere. For example, removing rights when someone scams and saying 'repay for them' is just an impractical idea that makes us look ten times worse than the scammer as we have, at the end of the day, scammed a lot. Add to the fact that scamming is practically impossible to prove and verify and often tends to be oneperson'sword against another and it's just adding more murky depth to what is already a grey area.

If people get scammed in HxHD, as the main purpose of the hxhd is not a trading room, Habbox can not be held accountable for said scam whereas a casino is.

[xxMATTGxx]

I disagreed with the casino idea when it was brought up a couple of months ago due to similar reasons that Martin has mentioned above and what he said in the other thread. We would still get people complaining if they get scammed in an Habbox Casino and they would think we are held responsible regardless if we remove peoples rights or ban them or do whatever against the actual scammer due to the name of the room.

You can tell people that we aren't responsible but it wouldn't stop them from moaning to Habbox or to Habbo themselves that they have been scammed in a casino which is owned by Habbox Management.

I'm up for ways for fund to be made for Habbox but I personally don't think the casino is the way to go about and do it. You have made a point about HxHD being a trade room, it isn't actually a trade room and I have now put it into the correct category. But even if it was enabled all the time, we can't actually be held accountable for whatever happens on a trading system Habbo has created. Although we can be held accountable for a casino we have made.

[Eoin247]

I think it's a good idea only if you have a good and dedicated person/s to run it. Habbox need more official and useful rooms that people will use and thus increase knowledge of habbox in game.

[Chippiewill]

I disagreed with the casino idea when it was brought up a couple of months ago due to similar reasons that Martin has mentioned above and what he said in the other thread. We would still get people complaining if they get scammed in an Habbox Casino and they would think we are held responsible regardless if we remove peoples rights or ban them or do whatever against the actual scammer due to the name of the room.
Do you trust forum moderators? Because surely they could do a whole lot more damage than someone in a casino.

[xxMATTGxx]

Do you trust forum moderators? Because surely they could do a whole lot more damage than someone in a casino.

I don't think that is the same. It would be a lot harder to find trust again in the users on Habbo if a Habbox owned casino was found "scamming".

[Inseriousity.]

They could do a lot more damage but it's also easier to fix on a forum rather than a habbo room where rights would have to be removed and evidence would be needed so you could never really be certain who had done the damageunlike the forum where you'd have a log of who did what.

[FlyingJesus]

Aside from trust issues with dealers and all that it's worth noting that even if we had the most trustworthy people in the world as "room moderators" they wouldn't always be around and/or vigilant. Look how active HxHD staff are in the help desk, and that's with whataround30 of them supposedly employed at a time.

Perhaps as a compromise if it's really necessary there could be some organised casino nights done by the events/comps team with the more senior members of those departments acting as dealers, but I can see it being somewhat tricky to arrange